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Itinéraire de Mulhouse à Menton à VTT?
by Aiglegillou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir,
je voudrais connaitre un itinéraire de mulhouse à
menton sans trop de dénivelé.Je pense faire le
voyage en 3 jours.j'ai vu que l'on pouvais longé
le canal direction lyon.Merci et j'attend de l'aide.
gillou
gillou
aiglegillou
Bonjour,
Mulhouse Menton (900km) en trois jours? cela me semble ambitieux.
Avons effectué Mulhouse Toulon (800km) en 9 jours .
Bon courage.
Si tu fais Mulhouse-Menton à VTT en 3 jours, n'oublie pas de faire un petit crochet par Strasbourg en fin de journée, que j'te paye un canon!
Salut les cyclo,
c'est vrai que descendre en 3 jours cela parait impossible
mais j'ai regarder sur maps et je pense être plus près des
800 km que des 900 km.
Je pense partir pour fin avril 2010.
Si je mets 4 jours c'est pas un problème pour moi.
Mon problème c'est de trouver des routes sans trop de dénivelées
et avec le moins possible de circulation.
A plus et bonne soirée
aiglegillou
Quand je dis 800km , c'est en voiture et par l'autoroute, car nous en vélo avons circulé sur des petites routes et au total cela faisait presque 900km, soit 100km jour avec tous nos bagages (tentes, sacs de couchages, habits, réchaud, popote etc)
Concernant l'itinéraire, franche compté, jura , l'ain ensuite il faut dévier lyon en passant à l'est et passer par le vercors et la drome provencale pou éviter al circulation de RN7 donc pas plat du tout.Voila la réalité du terrain qui est tout autre que l'on peut s'imaginer , et sur le net.
amicalement
renaud
de mulhouse amenton
4 jours en effet c est costoaud d'autant plus qu'en suivant les voies cyclables et petites rtes on prend beaucoup de temps
regarde http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/bale-doubs-lyon/carte1.php
mumhouse euro velo 6 --> chalon ensuite voie verte de bourgogne sud beaujolais lyon les bords du rhone - --> vienne http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/le-rhone-a-velo/ vienne -- beaurepaire http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/faverges-lyon-tarare-nice/
grosse grosse preparation du parcours surtout claude
regarde http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/bale-doubs-lyon/carte1.php
mumhouse euro velo 6 --> chalon ensuite voie verte de bourgogne sud beaujolais lyon les bords du rhone - --> vienne http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/le-rhone-a-velo/ vienne -- beaurepaire http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/faverges-lyon-tarare-nice/
grosse grosse preparation du parcours surtout claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
bine sur, peu avant chalon sur saoen tu peux couper et filer plein sud
prend les routes en jaunes, voir en blanc
tu peux soit attraper lyon au nord mais la traversee de lyon est problematique
(a moins de suivre mon parcours lyon vienne, le long du rhone, mais ce n est pas facile a expliquer)
soit eviter lyon par le côté est et rejoindre Vienne et suivre ensuite mon parcours de vienne a beaurepaire ... castellane ... menton
claude
4 jours ca se fait a condition d'etre tres entrainé, de connaitre parfaitement le parcours sans hesiter et d'avoir le vent ... de dos.
et un velo qui roule bien
avec un vtc vtt , ca sera impossible a moins d'avoir un vtc tres performant
pour dormir ?
camping ? et hotels sont legions sur le parcours
claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
800 km en 3 jours, ça ressemble plus au Tour de France des cyclistes professionnels qu'à un voyage proprement dit. Dans cette perspective, mieux vaudrait demander conseil à un club sportif qu'à un forum de voyageurs pour la préparation ? Ou alors, voir le site des "Diagonalistes"
Mon problème c'est de trouver des routes sans trop de dénivelées et avec le moins possible de circulation
Le moins de dénivelé, c'est par le canal Rhin Rhone (itinéraire EuroVélo6) puis la vallée du Rhone (beaucoup de voitures et camions), et le moins de circulation, c'est là où il y a du dénivelé. Il y a des routes secondaires sympa dans les Alpes, par la Drôme si vous voulez éviter les grands cols, mais il y aura plusieurs petits cols. Le plus court en kilométrage, c'est par la Suisse et l'Ialie, mais avec dénivelé + routes à assez fort trafic (630 km par Bern - col du Grand St Bernard - Torino)
voie verte de bourgogne sud
attention, je crois que la vitesse est limitée à 30 km/h sur les voies vertes (pour faire 800 km en 3 jours, il faut penser à ça aussi ;-)
Mon problème c'est de trouver des routes sans trop de dénivelées et avec le moins possible de circulation
Le moins de dénivelé, c'est par le canal Rhin Rhone (itinéraire EuroVélo6) puis la vallée du Rhone (beaucoup de voitures et camions), et le moins de circulation, c'est là où il y a du dénivelé. Il y a des routes secondaires sympa dans les Alpes, par la Drôme si vous voulez éviter les grands cols, mais il y aura plusieurs petits cols. Le plus court en kilométrage, c'est par la Suisse et l'Ialie, mais avec dénivelé + routes à assez fort trafic (630 km par Bern - col du Grand St Bernard - Torino)
voie verte de bourgogne sud
attention, je crois que la vitesse est limitée à 30 km/h sur les voies vertes (pour faire 800 km en 3 jours, il faut penser à ça aussi ;-)
salut,
j'ai fais Mulhouse (Reiningue) - Sainte-Maxime via Aix en Provence cet été (aout 2009)
voici l'itinéraire sur Google Maps (point les plus haut : 750m (suisse), 900m (aprés grenoble), avant Gap au col bayard : 1246m)
réalisé en 7 jours. lien sur le forum ici
pour aller à Menton je te propose de prendre la Route Napoléon RN85 jusqu'à Antibes, puis de longer le littoral. mais cette partie de route (entre Dignes les Bains et Cannes) me semble assez difficile en vélo (altitude, route étroite, circulation, moto, etc)
ou bien : autre itinéraire
évite les Alpes un maximum si tu veux tracer... les descentes c'est bien, mais avant faut les monter ! en 3 jours c'est faisable si tu as un super vélo, que tu es entraîné, que tu n'est pas chargé (0 bagage), que tu dors bien et récupère bien, et que le temps s'y prête. tout est faisable si on a de bonnes conditions... en VTT oublie, même avec des pneus fins comme j'en avais. t'avances pas.
j'ai fais Mulhouse (Reiningue) - Sainte-Maxime via Aix en Provence cet été (aout 2009)
voici l'itinéraire sur Google Maps (point les plus haut : 750m (suisse), 900m (aprés grenoble), avant Gap au col bayard : 1246m)
réalisé en 7 jours. lien sur le forum ici
pour aller à Menton je te propose de prendre la Route Napoléon RN85 jusqu'à Antibes, puis de longer le littoral. mais cette partie de route (entre Dignes les Bains et Cannes) me semble assez difficile en vélo (altitude, route étroite, circulation, moto, etc)
ou bien : autre itinéraire
évite les Alpes un maximum si tu veux tracer... les descentes c'est bien, mais avant faut les monter ! en 3 jours c'est faisable si tu as un super vélo, que tu es entraîné, que tu n'est pas chargé (0 bagage), que tu dors bien et récupère bien, et que le temps s'y prête. tout est faisable si on a de bonnes conditions... en VTT oublie, même avec des pneus fins comme j'en avais. t'avances pas.
Salut à toi,
merci pour les bons tuyaux que tu me donnes.
Bref je ne sais pas si je veux dormir à l'hôtel
ou faire du camping.Le problème avec l'hôtel
c'est qu'il faut que tu arrives à un endroit ou
tu a réservé ta chambre et en camping je
pense être plus libre mais le problème c'est
le matériel que tu transporte.Je ne pense pas
passer par la Suisse vu le dénivelé qu'il y à .
4 jours me semble plus raisonable d'après
tous les commentaires que j'ai eu. Bref je
vais réfléchir pendant quelques mois et étudier
le projet et comme tu me le dis si bien, une
bonne préparation physique, un bon vélo et
de la chance avec la météo devrait me permettre
de réaliser mon voyage.
Salutations.
aiglegillou
Salut ,
Après une long absence et des problèmes familiaux j'ai quand même effectué un voyage.
En 2011 je suis parti de Roggenhouse pour le MANS.
Allé retour en 7 jours en camping avec des petits détour mais quand même 1561 km.
Pour 2012 je descend à MENTON avec du bon matos et un bon vélo plus une remorque a
une roues.
A plus
aiglegillou
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Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

