nous sommes un couple français, non juif... nous venons de vendre nos affaires en france , nous venons d'acheter un appartement a Tel aviv et nous voudrions vivre la plus part du temps ici... mais nous rencontrons 🙁un probleme, notre avocat nous dit que nous ne pouvons pas rester plus de 6 mois par an sur le territoires israélien ...même en sortant tout les trois mois ..???en sachant que nous ne cherchons pas a travailler ici et que nous avons des revenus suffisant en france...qui pourrais nous aider et nous renseigner, sachant que nous sommes déjà passé au ministere de l'intérieur et a l'ambassade israélienne en france et que personne est vraiment capable de nous répondre...
we are a French couple, non Jewish, we have just sold our business in France , we have bought an appartment in tel aviv and we would like to live more here, but we have encountered a problem, our lawyer said to us that we cannot remain more than 6 months per a year in israel (even if we will leave the country every three month). by knowing that we do not seek to work here and that we have a sufficient income in France…who could help us and inform us, (we already passed to the ministry for the interior and has the Israeli embassy in France and that nobody is really able to answer us…)
we will appreciate any help
thank you.
Israël est une ethnocratie militaire, et qui exclut des droits les plus fondamentaux tous ceux ne relevant pas de la religion/"race" élue etc... (c'est écrit dans tous les journaux, notamment le bataillon de qq 35 lois en vigueur -- plus toutes celles en projet avancé -- de nature raciale, et ne visant pas que les Arabes et/ou les musulmans...).
Vous allez donc rigoler, au propre comme au figuré (et je me demande d'ailleurs comment on peut envisager d'aller s'installer dans un tel pays !). Et, à ma connaissance, les visas de touriste sont de 3 mois, renouvelables au gré des autorités..., donc sans garantie de pouvoir revenir (de nombreux expatriés/étrangers etc., notamment dans les ONG, ou couples mixtes, en savent qq chose !).
Personne ne croira que vous vous êtes installés là par amour (crimes de guerre compris) pour ce pays ou simple intérêt économique. Vous allez donc faire l'objet de suspicions permamentes, de vos voisins comme des autorités etc............. !
Désolée, mais il est au-dessus de mes forces de vous souhaiter bonne chance
Si vous n'avez pas la réponse à la question d'un intervenant, passez tout simplement. Personne ne vous oblige à répondre aux messages...
Ggetsn ne demande pas l'opinion de tous et chacun sur le gouvernement Israéliens, il/elle cherche des infos sur les visas de résidence Israéliens...
Vos pouvez penser ce que vous voulez de la manière de gouverner de n'importe quel pays sur la planète, si ce n'est pas le sujet du post, on ne veut pas le savoir....
Ggetsn: Désolé, je n'ai pas de réponse à vos interrogations.
Vos pouvez penser ce que vous voulez de la manière de gouverner de n'importe quel pays sur la planète, si ce n'est pas le sujet du post, on ne veut pas le savoir....
Ben.... Dans la mesure où les choix politiques, ou la religion, conditionnent les conditions de séjour et de résidence, si, quand même un peu......
A priori, il doit être possible d’obtenir un visa de résident qui ne donne pas le droit de travailler si vous expliquez vouloir dépenser votre argent sur place. Il faut prendre un avocat en Israël. Ceci dit, il faut avoir conscience que l’immigration des personnes qui ne sont pas de religion juive est, en principe, impossible, sauf mariage avec un citoyen par exemple.
merci de vos réponses nous allons rencontrer un avocat la semaine prochaine...
nous ne sommes pas juifs mais depuis 1990 nous adorons venir ici...
Ma mère de coeur était juive...
Gérard
Je suis allee moi meme travailler a Tel Aviv voici quelques annees pour un contrat de 6 mois, et en etant non juive, ma reponse est categorique.
Je ne comprends pas qu' on puisse penser a s'installer dans un pays en etat de guerre permanent depuis sa creation et pour y etre traite qu'en tant que non juif, comme un sous humain.
Mais bon... certaines personnes sont maso... si souffrir leur fait plaisir.
Je donne effectivement une lecon sur "Comment utiliser un forum de discutions et comment répondre aux questions"...
Je me fous totalement de l'opinion politique des gens, je ne veux pas la savoir! Je suis sur qu'il y a des tonnes de forums politiques...allez-y !!
Je suis d'accord avec tatra sur le fait de mentionner si des aspects religieux ou politiques influences les conditions de séjour et de résidence puisque ça fait parti de interrogation de l'intervenant.
Par contre, de me sortir la grande histoire d'état criminel etc, là ça fait parti de votre opinion et ça, ça n'aide à rien la question. (libre à vous de le penser...c'est votre opinion et c'est bien correct ainsi)
Ici des gens dise vouloir visiter tel pays où aller étudier dans tel autre pays où, selon mes valeurs À MOI, la femme est traitée comme une moins que rien et n'est nullement respectée. Par contre, comme je n'ai jamais visité ces pays (et encore moins fait de démarche pour y vivre), je ne réponds pas aux posts puisque je ne connais pas les réponses aux questions des intervenants par rapport AUX VOYAGES ET AUX CONDITIONS D'OBTENTION DE VISA.
Bonne journée quand même !
(et parlant de donner des leçons, regardez donc votre commentaire, vous êtes pas mal bonne là dedans vous aussi....)
Bonjour. tout comme ça l'a été mentionné précédemment il est difficile de s'installer en israel si on est pas juif....
En tout cas bonne chance, Tel Aviv est une ville magnifique et les Israeliens très acceuillants...
Je ne veux pas nécessairement relancer la discussion, mais voici que des annonces immobilières (location, ...) sont ouvertement réservées aux Israéliens (sont donc exclus les étrangers d'une façon générale et les Arabes israéliens a fortiori), et qui fleurissent dans cette bonne ville de Tel Aviv... Charmant pays !
Je suis désolé, mais je peux vous répondre que vous rencontrez souvent le même problème en france... là n'est pas le problème ni ma question... j'ai fait un choix de vivre en siraël et je l'assume et j'accepte les avantages et les inconvenients.
il ne faut pas dire n'importe quoi! La France a certes bien des défauts mais la loi française interdit toute discrimination. il est donc impossible de trouver des petites annonces immobilières réservées aux français. Quant à Israël c'est en effet un pays créé pour les juifs par les juifs et revendiqué comme tel par les Israéliens eux-mêmes. Il est donc fort probable qu'en tant que Goy vous ne puissiez y résider en permanence. En tous cas tous les articles disent la même chose.
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