Je me suis documenté sur un voyage en allant sur le site du routard. Je n'ai jamais vu un pays avec autant de recommandation de sécurité. Heureusement, en lisant les commentaires sur ce forum je n'ai pas l'impression de partir au far-West. Je n'ai pas de date précise pour partir, sûrement après la coupe du monde, les prix redeviendront normaux.
Partir en Afrique du Sud après la coupe du monde
by Suizo75
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Depuis quelques temps, j'ai l'intention de partir en Afrique du Sud. Hélas, cette année le football a choisi de sévir en Afrique du Sud. Les prix ont explosé aussi bien avion ou logement. Sans compter le fait que je n'ai pas envie de donner de l'argent à la FIFA qui prône le fair play. Définition de wikipedia :
Le fair-play (de l'anglais fair play) est une expression anglaise composée de fair (« clair, franc, honnête, sans tricherie ») et de play (« jeu »), désignant une conduite honnête dans un jeu, puis dans toutes circonstances. Utilisé couramment dans le monde du sport, ce terme recouvre à la fois le respect de l'adversaire, des règles, des décisions de l'arbitre, du public et de l'esprit du jeu, mais aussi la loyauté, la maitrise de soi et la dignité dans la victoire comme dans la défaite.
Je précise que je ne vise aucun joueur tricolore.
Je me suis documenté sur un voyage en allant sur le site du routard. Je n'ai jamais vu un pays avec autant de recommandation de sécurité. Heureusement, en lisant les commentaires sur ce forum je n'ai pas l'impression de partir au far-West. Je n'ai pas de date précise pour partir, sûrement après la coupe du monde, les prix redeviendront normaux.
Je me suis documenté sur un voyage en allant sur le site du routard. Je n'ai jamais vu un pays avec autant de recommandation de sécurité. Heureusement, en lisant les commentaires sur ce forum je n'ai pas l'impression de partir au far-West. Je n'ai pas de date précise pour partir, sûrement après la coupe du monde, les prix redeviendront normaux.
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
tout à fait, il ne faut pas faire de psychose, ou alors on ne va nulle part (bresil , mexique, usa, kenya, etc...) mais il ne faut pas ignorer non plus les consignes de sécurité: éviter les grandes villes et les townships, les taxis collectifs , la nuit, et si vous allez dans les parcs ou les zones rustiques pas de soucis!
oui,
nous y sommes alles en Aout dernier et nous ne sommes jamais restes en grande ville, sauf 1 nuit a Pretoria dans un quartier tres calme, nous n'avons eu AUCUN ennui. Je pense donc que ca depend beaucoup du trajet et du comportement que l'on adopte. Aout etait une periode excellente pour ce que nous voulions faire.
au cas ou, ci joint un lien vers le recit de notre voyage:
http://sites.google.com/site/quelqueparticietailleurs/afrique-australe-aout-2009
nous y sommes alles en Aout dernier et nous ne sommes jamais restes en grande ville, sauf 1 nuit a Pretoria dans un quartier tres calme, nous n'avons eu AUCUN ennui. Je pense donc que ca depend beaucoup du trajet et du comportement que l'on adopte. Aout etait une periode excellente pour ce que nous voulions faire.
au cas ou, ci joint un lien vers le recit de notre voyage:
http://sites.google.com/site/quelqueparticietailleurs/afrique-australe-aout-2009
Thien An
L'avenir il ne faut pas le prévoir, mais le permettre
Bonsoir ThienAn,
je viens de passer un moment parfait à lire le carnet relatant votre voyage en Afrique australe. Un grand merci, pour ces superbes photos, pour la joie de vivre et l'humour contagieux à la lecture du récit et, enfin, pour les détails pratiques dans la dernière partie du carnet. Cette dernière partie est une véritable mine d'or pour voyageurs indépendants ! Des semaines de recherche concentrées dans ce chapitre. Un gain de temps inestimable à sauvegarder précieusement, d'autant plus que ce voyage est particulièrement bien conçu. VoyageForum permet à des gens en partance ou en rêve de rencontrer des gens généreux -et y'en a plus d'un- qui comme vous, ont appris et puis passent le relais.
Bonne soirée, Joss
je viens de passer un moment parfait à lire le carnet relatant votre voyage en Afrique australe. Un grand merci, pour ces superbes photos, pour la joie de vivre et l'humour contagieux à la lecture du récit et, enfin, pour les détails pratiques dans la dernière partie du carnet. Cette dernière partie est une véritable mine d'or pour voyageurs indépendants ! Des semaines de recherche concentrées dans ce chapitre. Un gain de temps inestimable à sauvegarder précieusement, d'autant plus que ce voyage est particulièrement bien conçu. VoyageForum permet à des gens en partance ou en rêve de rencontrer des gens généreux -et y'en a plus d'un- qui comme vous, ont appris et puis passent le relais.
Bonne soirée, Joss
There is no way to happiness, happiness is the way
waouh... merci du compliment.
effectivement, voyage forum est tres utile et le site m'a beaucoup aidee quand moi meme je preparais notre voyage.
Thien An
L'avenir il ne faut pas le prévoir, mais le permettre
Bonjour,
Tu as raison avec la coupe du monde les prix sont inabordables. et puis il y aura beaucoup trop de monde, ce sera vraiment bondé!
Si tu vas à Cape town, je te conseille un superbe hotel à 20 minutes du centre ville. Il s'agit de l'Hout Bay manor que tu trouves sur www.temptingplaces.com
J'y ai passé un séjour des plus inoubliables, la région est vraiment très belle.
Bon séjour, enjoy South Africa!
Tu as raison avec la coupe du monde les prix sont inabordables. et puis il y aura beaucoup trop de monde, ce sera vraiment bondé!
Si tu vas à Cape town, je te conseille un superbe hotel à 20 minutes du centre ville. Il s'agit de l'Hout Bay manor que tu trouves sur www.temptingplaces.com
J'y ai passé un séjour des plus inoubliables, la région est vraiment très belle.
Bon séjour, enjoy South Africa!
Bonsoir ,
Certes les problèmes existent partout , mais en matière de sécurité les taux de criminalité de l' Afrique du Sud ces dernières années étaient tout de même hors concours par rapport aux Etats-Unis , sauf erreur de ma part . Maintenant il est vrai que beaucoup de gens en reviennent indemmes , et c' est heureux . A cet égard le conseil d' éviter de s' attarder dans les grandes villes ou leurs banlieues est sans doute très pertinent ! 😉
Certes les problèmes existent partout , mais en matière de sécurité les taux de criminalité de l' Afrique du Sud ces dernières années étaient tout de même hors concours par rapport aux Etats-Unis , sauf erreur de ma part . Maintenant il est vrai que beaucoup de gens en reviennent indemmes , et c' est heureux . A cet égard le conseil d' éviter de s' attarder dans les grandes villes ou leurs banlieues est sans doute très pertinent ! 😉
S'il n'y avait pas eu la coupe du monde le prix d'un billet d'avion est de combien ?
Car moi j'ai trouvé un stage là bas entre avril et juin mais j'hésite à y aller avec toutes ces consignes de sécurité et en plus j'arriverai en plein hiver... D'ailleurs il fait bien froid durant cette période ou pas ??
Je ne sais pas précisément , moi je pars à Windhoek (en Namibie) en avril , c' est normalement + cher car beaucoup moins desservi ( vol direct depuis Francfort ) .
Il me semble avoir vu des vols pour Johannesburg depuis Paris à guère + de 500€ , mais plutôt vers septembre , après l' "évènement" donc .
Pour les températures , il faut regarder les sites sur la météo ou le climat du pays . Elles varient aussi pas mal entre Le Cap et Durban , ou Pretoria-Johannesburg ; avril c' est l' automne là-bas .
Bonne chance , et bien te renseigner où tu mets les pieds avant de partir , surtout si c' est pour 3 mois ! 🤪
Trois mois ça te semble un peu court pour aller en Afrique du Sud ou au contraire un peu long pour ce genre de pays ?
L'insécurité de la ville m'effraie, mais si je ne me promene pas tard le soir et seul, je ne pense pas avoir de soucis, enfin je l'espere... Le mode de vie est pas trop different de l'Europe de toute façon, je pense, non ?!
J'hésite vraiment avec l'Inde, Bombay où j'ai aussi une proposition de stage...
Si tu y vas pour travailler (stage ) , une durée de 3 mois ne me semble pas excessive .
Pour la sécurité effective dans les grandes villes , seuls ceux qui résident sur place pourront te renseigner utilement ( et site Ministère A.E. ) . Quand on ne fait que passer , beaucoup de choses vous échappent . Certains reportages ne sont pas très rassurants : dans certains quartiers , surtout la nuit , voies privées défendues par des portails et clôtures renforcés , gardiens filtrant les passages ; de véritables petits camps retranchés . 🤪 Dans les quartiers + pauvres , les gens ne peuvent compter que sur les rondes de police , ou parfois organisent entre eux des milices pour se protéger ... Mais il y a peut-être des secteurs plus tranquilles . 😉
Pour la sécurité effective dans les grandes villes , seuls ceux qui résident sur place pourront te renseigner utilement ( et site Ministère A.E. ) . Quand on ne fait que passer , beaucoup de choses vous échappent . Certains reportages ne sont pas très rassurants : dans certains quartiers , surtout la nuit , voies privées défendues par des portails et clôtures renforcés , gardiens filtrant les passages ; de véritables petits camps retranchés . 🤪 Dans les quartiers + pauvres , les gens ne peuvent compter que sur les rondes de police , ou parfois organisent entre eux des milices pour se protéger ... Mais il y a peut-être des secteurs plus tranquilles . 😉
Pas d'alarmisme !!!
La bonne attitude en Afrique du Sud se trouve a mi-chemin entre la paranoïa et l'angélisme. C'est un pays au contexte très particulier et qui doit être appréhendé comme tel. Si on prend les données brutes du crime en Afrique du Sud on a envie de tout faire sauf d'y aller. Pour autant la réalité est très différente, le crime touche avant tout les townships, zones de non-droit pour certaines où règne la loi de la jungle, zones qu'il te faudra bien évidemment éviter à moins d'être accompagné d'une personne de confiance qui connait les lieux. A partir de là quelques consignes de bon sens sons à suivre, ne pas sortir à pied la nuit (encore moins seul), ne pas afficher sa richesse, se renseigner sur les coins où on désire aller, etc... En suivant ces consignes il est facile de passer un séjour formidable dans un pays qui ne l'est pas moins et où les gens sont d'une gentillesse surprenante. Petite question en passant, dans quelle ville est ton stage ? Si c'est le Cap, c'est une ville extraordinaire et relativement bien sécurisée du fait de l'affluence touristique, une ville au mode de vie quasi-européen dans son centre tout en étant en Afrique et bénéficiant d'un cadre naturel éblouissant. Si c'est Jo'burg, ville que j'aime beaucoup moins, cela reste toujours possible bien que bien moins attrayant. Dans tous les cas, les stagiaires européens en Afrique du sud sont maintenant monnaie courante et le peu d'entre eux que j'ai eu l'occasion de croiser n'avaient pas l'air de le regretter.
François
Bonsoir Bardamu !
Merci de ta réponse déjà. Ensuite, pour ma part ce stage se ferait au Cap. Donc je me doute bien que ce n'est pas non plus une grosse ville du danger. Il faut juste que je fasse attention où je met les pieds et je pense que ça devrait aller. Mais si je sors en ville la nuit à plusieurs (3-4), je devrais rencontrer aucun problemes ? Et puis, dans les rues la nuit, il n'y a personne ? En plus je tomberai en plein dans la coupe du monde, donc peut être moins de risques... ?!
Ce sont des questions un peu bête, mais j'appréhende tellement face à ce pays qui m'a l'air fantastique.
Merci de ta réponse déjà. Ensuite, pour ma part ce stage se ferait au Cap. Donc je me doute bien que ce n'est pas non plus une grosse ville du danger. Il faut juste que je fasse attention où je met les pieds et je pense que ça devrait aller. Mais si je sors en ville la nuit à plusieurs (3-4), je devrais rencontrer aucun problemes ? Et puis, dans les rues la nuit, il n'y a personne ? En plus je tomberai en plein dans la coupe du monde, donc peut être moins de risques... ?!
Ce sont des questions un peu bête, mais j'appréhende tellement face à ce pays qui m'a l'air fantastique.
Tu peux sortir très facilement, j'ai passé des soirées à deux en plein Cape Town sans que rien ne m'arrive. Le danger avec Cape Town c'est d'être séduit par le cadre, l'ambiance et d'en oublier que l'on est en Afrique du sud et agir comme en Europe. L'exemple courant est celui du voyageur ayant traversé l'Afrique sans problèmes mais baissant sa garde au Cap et se faisant voler ses affaires. Autre exemple plus parlant, "je vais rentrer à pied ce n'est pas loin" après une soirée. Etant donné le prix du taxi, cela ne vaut vraiment pas le coup de prendre ce risque, beaucoup de personnes quittant Long street (l'un des quartiers où les bars et boîtes se concentrent) tard la nuit pour rejoindre leur hotel à pied se font suivre et braquer. La plupart du temps ils finissent avec quelques centaines de rands en moins sans que cela aille plus loin. Comme je l'ai dit, quelques règles à observer et tout se passera bien. Pour avoir passé un an dans ce pays, j'en reviens nostalgique plus qu'autre chose. Pour ce qui est de la coupe du monde, je pense que l'ambiance sera simplement incroyable, tu es vraiment chanceux !
Tu pense que c'est mieux, apres une soirée, de rentrer par taxi qu'à pied même si la distance n'est pas loin ? Les prix sont pas trop chers ?
Je vais réfléchir à tout ça, mais j'avoue que le fait qu'il y ait la coupe du monde, ça me donne un peu plus envie d'y aller.
Apres une fois au Cap, il y a beaucoup d'endroit à visiter ? Des zones plus "sauvages" à visiter en dehors de la ville ??
En tout cas, merci pour tes réponses, ça m'aide vraiment à voir plus clair 😉
En tout cas, merci pour tes réponses, ça m'aide vraiment à voir plus clair 😉
Franchement le prix du taxi est très abordable et si vous êtes plusieurs il n'y a même pas à se poser la question. Après tout dépend ce que l'on veut dire par pas loin. Un exemple: un ami qui étudiait en Afrique du sud était en boîte avec un autre français dans Long street (rue qui comme son nom l'indique est très grande). Fin de soirée, pour rejoindre leur auberge il leur faut remonter la rue puis bifurquer (en gros ce n'était pas très loin), assez éméchés ils décident de le faire à pied. Deux types les ont repérés , suivis et soulagés de quelques centaines de rands. De même éviter de faire la jonction Waterfront Long street à pied de nuit. Je parle d'endroits touristiques, peut-être que d'autres quartiers se prêtent davantage aux marches nocturnes, le mieux est de demander aux sud-africains eux-mêmes. Pour être franc, ne pas marcher la nuit en ville est vraiment la plus importante règle de l'expat en afrique du sud. Après si tu veux parler de la région, c'est certainement la plus belle région d'Afrique du sud, un mélange de montagne et d'océan. Beaucoup de choses à voir dans le coin (péninsule, pingouins, phoques, requins blancs, baleines à partir de mi-juin, région des vins, parc de table mountain) et en remontant la côte (garden route en général, etc). La seule chose qui manque se sont les animaux qui sont dans d'autres régions du pays (je ne peux que te conseiller d'aller faire un tour au Kruger avant de repartir du pays). La seule chose c'est que tu ne seras pas dans la meilleure période niveau météo mais bon la coupe du monde offre une bonne compensation (je pense que la sécurité va être encore renforcée pour l'arrivée des supporters).
Pas d' alarmisme 😕, mais en complément d' information, voir sur "Le Monde" en ligne d' aujourd' hui un article du 27/11 sur l' insécurité routière en Afrique du Sud .
La réalité des statistiques ( dont l' évolution ne va pas dans le bon sens ... ) indique notamment : 45 décès / semaine sur les routes , pourtant en bon état , contre 12 pour la France qui dispose d' un parc automobile 4, 5 fois + important !
Les + fous seraient les chauffeurs de taxi collectifs , à éviter absolument sauf si on recherche à tout prix des sensations fortes . 🤪
J' espère que c' est un peu moins pire en Namibie où je serai dans 4 mois ... 😉 Prudence sera le mot d' ordre !
J' espère que c' est un peu moins pire en Namibie où je serai dans 4 mois ... 😉 Prudence sera le mot d' ordre !
correctif : il s' agit de statistiques par jour .
Oui il faut faire attention sur la route mais il faut une fois de plus remettre les chiffres dans leur contexte. Pour un pays d'Afrique, l'Afrique de sud a des infrastructures exceptionnelles (on peut donc aller très vite) tout en ayant un parc automobile très hétérogène. C'est plutôt l'écart entre bolides et minibus croulant sous les passagers (imaginez le nombre de morts en cas d'accidents quand un véhicule de la taill d'un espace transporte 20 personnes) qui fait enfler les chiffres. De plus l'article rappelle que la moitié des morts sont des piétons (et oui beaucoup de gens n'ont pas de voitures et il n'est pas rare de voir des gens (voire du bétail dans certaines zones) sur les bords de la route). En résumé beaucoup d'accidents mais ce ne sont pas les expatriés en voiture de loc qui sont les premiers touchés (tout comme ils ne sont pas les premiers touchés par le crime).
Une fois de plus pas d'alarmisme !
Même en France , on peut être irréprochable à son volant , rouler dans un véhicule en parfait état et se faire tuer par le chauffard qui déboule en face de soi ! ( sûr qu' il y a beaucoup de victimes parmi les piétons , mais tout de même globalement presque 17 fois plus de tués en valeur relative là-bas ) .
On peut aller en Afrique du Sud sans pour autant adopter la politique de l' autruche 🤪 😉
On peut aller en Afrique du Sud sans pour autant adopter la politique de l' autruche 🤪 😉
Mais ce n'est pas la politique de l'autruche, il est clair que ce pays est plus risqué que tout pays d' Europe, sur la route ou dans les rues et c'est pour ça qu'il faut adopter des règles de sécurité en fonction de cette réalité. A partir de là, quand on vient s'expatrier avec une attitude responsable en Afrique du sud, on intègre ces règles et on profite du pays. Il est malheureusement trop facile de faire peur avec des chiffres quand on parle d'Afrique du sud. Ce pays ayant un contexte unique, beaucoup de ces chiffres sont liés à ce contexte et il est important de les expliquer pour leur donner tout leur sens. Dire que ce sont les noirs historiquement parqués dans les townships qui représentent l'immense majorité des victimes d'homicides ou que ce sont les mêmes noirs obligés de circuler dans des conditions de sécurité déplorables du fait d'un manque de ressources évident qui forment le gros des accidentés de la route, ce n'est pas faire la politique de l'autruche, c'est montrer qu'il faut relativiser le risque (par ailleurs bien réel, c'est incontestable) lorsque l'on est un expatrié dont les ressources assurent davantage de sureté. Pour moi l'insécurité est une composante indéniable d'un projet de séjour en Afrique du sud mais ne devrait pas être pour autant l'unique raison pour ne pas venir en Afrique du sud. J'ai vécu un an dans ce pays fascinant sans frayeur et en le traversant en long en large et en travers et cela n'a rien d'exceptionnel. Bonne soirée à tous
J' avais tenté un trait d' humour avec l' autruche , mais sans succès ...🤪
Rien à retrancher , ni à ajouter . Sinon que vous avez un réel talent d' avocat ! 😉 Sans rancune , et bonne journée 🙂
Rien à retrancher , ni à ajouter . Sinon que vous avez un réel talent d' avocat ! 😉 Sans rancune , et bonne journée 🙂
Bonjour
Sujet inépuisable, la sécurité. Toute personne avertie en vaut deux et s'il ne faut pas s'empêcher de visiter l'Afrique australe, il faut prendre quelques précautions élémentaires.
Il est quand même stressant de circuler sur des routes, même en banlieue, ou l'on aperçoit des pancartes: Don't stop, Crime alert, ... Ou lorsqu'on s'arrête (Comme moi, près de St Lucia) près d'arrêt de bus, de se voir entourer par deux voitures de police et qu'un agent vous dit de partir car c'est un endroit dangereux. Bref, il y a quand même un certain sentiment de malaise mais qui ne m'empêchera pas de visiter encore une fois ce beau pays.
La situation est moins préoccupante en Namibie mais là ce sont les routes en gravier et la vitesse qui pose problème.
En Afrique du sud, un autre problème est l'arnaque à la carte bancaire, on peut se faire arrêter par de faux contrôlleurs: avoir de l'argent liquide pour ne pas donner sa carte afin de ne pas se retrouver avec des surprises au retour. Beaucoup d'avertissement aussi pour les retraits aux distributeurs surtout à l'aéroport de Joburg.
Autre arnaque: Les PV et transactions: On se fait arrêter, puis demander de suivre les policiers jusqu'au poste le plus proche, arrêt en cours de route et marchandage (Vécu)
Je suis allé en septembre et j'ai trouvé le climat super.
Sujet inépuisable, la sécurité. Toute personne avertie en vaut deux et s'il ne faut pas s'empêcher de visiter l'Afrique australe, il faut prendre quelques précautions élémentaires.
Il est quand même stressant de circuler sur des routes, même en banlieue, ou l'on aperçoit des pancartes: Don't stop, Crime alert, ... Ou lorsqu'on s'arrête (Comme moi, près de St Lucia) près d'arrêt de bus, de se voir entourer par deux voitures de police et qu'un agent vous dit de partir car c'est un endroit dangereux. Bref, il y a quand même un certain sentiment de malaise mais qui ne m'empêchera pas de visiter encore une fois ce beau pays.
La situation est moins préoccupante en Namibie mais là ce sont les routes en gravier et la vitesse qui pose problème.
En Afrique du sud, un autre problème est l'arnaque à la carte bancaire, on peut se faire arrêter par de faux contrôlleurs: avoir de l'argent liquide pour ne pas donner sa carte afin de ne pas se retrouver avec des surprises au retour. Beaucoup d'avertissement aussi pour les retraits aux distributeurs surtout à l'aéroport de Joburg.
Autre arnaque: Les PV et transactions: On se fait arrêter, puis demander de suivre les policiers jusqu'au poste le plus proche, arrêt en cours de route et marchandage (Vécu)
Je suis allé en septembre et j'ai trouvé le climat super.
Merci pour vos réponses en tout cas.
Je vais continuer de peser le pour et le contre de chaque pays (Inde & Afrique du Sud) pour ensuite faire un bon choix...
Si je pars en Afrique du Sud, ce que je ferais certainement, il faudra surtout que je sois extrêmement vigilant à où je met les pieds. J'espere aussi avoir la chance d'aller dans un des nombreux parcs naturels, car du Cap ça fait loin le parc Kruger...
Je vais continuer de peser le pour et le contre de chaque pays (Inde & Afrique du Sud) pour ensuite faire un bon choix...
Si je pars en Afrique du Sud, ce que je ferais certainement, il faudra surtout que je sois extrêmement vigilant à où je met les pieds. J'espere aussi avoir la chance d'aller dans un des nombreux parcs naturels, car du Cap ça fait loin le parc Kruger...
Merci pour le compliment ! Sans rancune bien sur, c'est juste que l'Afrique du sud est un sujet qui me touche particulièrement à cœur car c'est devenu mon second pays et que je veux essayer de donner l'image la plus fidèle possible à quiconque envisage d'y mettre les pieds, au point de ne pas pouvoir discerner un trait d'humour.
Attention en Namibie, pas mal d'accidents car les routes ont l'air parfois trop bonnes et trop paisibles, du coup on se prend pour un pilote de rallye et on manque de perdre le contrôle de la voiture à cause d'un obstacle normalement bénin (je connais quelqu'un qui avait une moyenne de 160 sur route et 110 sur piste en Namibie et en voiture de tourisme, à éviter 😉 !) Bon voyage
P.S: Je confirme pour les policiers corrompus sur la route (insister sur le fait que l'on est étranger dans ce cas là et jouer profil bas, ne pas crier qu'ils mentent, ils monteront sur leurs grands chevaux, vécu) et les distributeurs louches (vécu aussi, éviter le distributeur de la station shell de middleburg entre joburg et kruger)
Attention en Namibie, pas mal d'accidents car les routes ont l'air parfois trop bonnes et trop paisibles, du coup on se prend pour un pilote de rallye et on manque de perdre le contrôle de la voiture à cause d'un obstacle normalement bénin (je connais quelqu'un qui avait une moyenne de 160 sur route et 110 sur piste en Namibie et en voiture de tourisme, à éviter 😉 !) Bon voyage
P.S: Je confirme pour les policiers corrompus sur la route (insister sur le fait que l'on est étranger dans ce cas là et jouer profil bas, ne pas crier qu'ils mentent, ils monteront sur leurs grands chevaux, vécu) et les distributeurs louches (vécu aussi, éviter le distributeur de la station shell de middleburg entre joburg et kruger)
Est-ce quelqu'un y est allé durant le mois de novembre? Est-ce une bonne période pour visiter le Park Kruger?
Il y a 2 façons de contrôler les gens: en leur faisant peur et en les démoralisant. ( Sicko)
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Je viens ici avec une question sur quel Parc pour un safari de 3 jours au Keyna ?
Après 20 jours en Ouganda, je retrouve mon père pour un safari de 3 jours (cela lui convient). Nous nous retrouvons à Nairobi et nous avons la journée pour nous deplacer dans un Parc (le plus loin de Nairobi pour éviter la foule?) et y passer 4 nuits avant de retourner à la capitale pour la France.
J'aurais souhaité vos recommendations car je lis beaucoup de choses três interessantes sur ce forum.
Merci,
David
Hi there,
Hope the pros are on the lookout!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
March or May 2027. Around 15 days in the Western Cape, then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George. The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode... From George: Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1. Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna. Question: What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339. And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340. Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed? Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert? If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts? From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both). Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area? Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me... (For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...). Any feedback from the pros? Well, that’s about it... I’m open to any other tips or advice!
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
Hi there,
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Thanks in advance, and have a great evening! !
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations. Thanks for any feedback on this plan! Ailleurs 64
Hi,
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks. We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
Thanks in advance for your tips!!
Have a great day
Hi there,
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
Hi everyone!
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old. We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions: - How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?). - Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice. - I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that. - Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas! Gabriel
Hi everyone!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
I’m looking for a French-speaking local guide for July 2019. Would anyone have a contact there? No tour operators, please.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg. This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights). D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights) Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai). D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights). D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE). D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6. If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too. Thanks! 🙂
Hi
Any feedback on the agency Mon Guide Zanzibar?
Hi everyone,
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland. Could you share any tips on: - the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar) - your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours - reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Thanks in advance!
Albin
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
When it comes to accommodations, the options are: - Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional - Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive - Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me. Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works... Thanks to everyone for your help. Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Namibia raises park fees by 86 to 100 percent
Hello,
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature. 😊🦁
Hi everyone,
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa? As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult? We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :) We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend. See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
D0 Arrival at JNB D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route) D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this: - Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
Thanks for your help
Hello everyone,
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective. First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...). That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on. The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start... During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.) The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance. Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page). Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water), – Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places, – Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly, – One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
--- Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments. Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored: – services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water), – hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments, – visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly, – one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment. To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone. Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Thanks so much in advance!
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
So far, the itinerary looks like this: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking: Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?) Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire Day 4: Full day in Tarangire Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome... Thanks
Hi everyone,
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
Thanks in advance! 😉
hi there
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works. I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!! I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh… Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car?? If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali? Thanks so much for your help… Best regards
Hey everyone,
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be: - Hwange - Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona) - Mana Pools - Harare - Gonarezhou - Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
hi there
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work. I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts. So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza Ngenda Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas) Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions: -Is French still widely spoken? -Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info? -Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back? -Is it possible to go hiking solo? -Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share. Looking forward to exchanging more!
Hi everyone,
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind. I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south: 14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie 17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza 20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara 22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants 25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere. 28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel. 29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance! Nicole Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers. We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering: Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later) Pretoria – 2 days Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day Acornhoek – 1 day Letaba – 2 days Lobamba – 2 days Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days Cape of Good Hope – 1 day Stellenbosch – 1 day Hermanus – 1 day Mossel Bay – 2 days Oudtshoorn Wilderness – 2 days Knysna Port Elizabeth – 2 days Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions. We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!





