Hi there,
Big travel year in Asia for me. I’m heading to Southeast Asia for a month in mid-July. The dates aren’t flexible since I’m going primarily for a wedding (Laos). So, I’ll start my trip in Laos for 4 days, then head off... where?
I’ve already done a trip exclusively in Laos a few years ago. I also visited Vietnam for the second time last year, so I’d love to explore something new.
I was thinking of Cambodia (but only for Angkor) and northern Thailand, which I haven’t seen yet (Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Mae Hong Son, Nan, Phrae, Phayao, Pa Hin Ngam National Park), and wrapping up with a few nights in Koh Samui.
My question is about the weather. From what I’ve seen, Koh Samui seems to be spared during this period. But for Angkor and northern Thailand, I’m not so sure—it feels like a gamble. And I’m really not in the mood for rainy vacations, since I already get enough gray skies where I live 😅.
So, I had another idea: after Laos, I could head to Bali (or another Indonesian island) where it’s supposedly the right season. The flight ticket price is exactly the same, including a one-way to Bali and the return from Bali (with a layover in Bangkok).
For those who’ve traveled in July, what do you think? Is there a big risk in trying northern Thailand and Angkor?
With 4 days for the wedding + 5 for Angkor, you’d only have 3 weeks left for the rest, which wouldn’t be nearly enough for the Thailand itinerary you’re considering—especially with the rain on top of everything...
I’d head to Indonesia instead, not necessarily Bali.
For those who’ve done this trip in July, what do you think? Big risk trying northern Thailand and Angkor?
I’ve been to Thailand every month of the year, including the North: yes, in July, rain is pretty common.
Pa Hin Ngam National Park
I don’t know it personally, but during the rainy season, national parks usually turn into mud pits, which can be a pain if you’re planning to hike. Some parks even close during this time, so check ahead.
Thanks for your replies. I'm off to Indonesia—I had that in mind and now I'm convinced (I hadn't even thought about the conditions for parks… I was only focused on the gray skies and rain).
Songsam:
I'd head to Indonesia, not necessarily Bali.
Isn’t Bali a must-visit when you go to Indonesia for the first time?
Otherwise, I’ve seen Lombok, which looks great
Isn’t Bali a must-visit when traveling to Indonesia for the first time?
Nope. Actually, there are so many interesting islands to visit in Indonesia that none can really be called more essential than the others—even for a first trip. It all depends on what attracts you most (and least) about a trip and how much time you’ll have (26 days?). Share more details if you’d like some suggestions!
I also saw Lombok—it looks nice
Not interesting enough in my opinion for a whole stay, but as an add-on to another island, why not?
If you love volcanoes, temples, and nature, Java is a great destination.
Well, I do, but I’m traveling with a child (10 years old), and she’s not super into all that, unfortunately, so I always have to find compromises (beach, fun activities, a few shops). Java does look absolutely stunning—I need to see if it can work with my daughter’s interests.
It all depends on what attracts you most (and least) about a trip and how much time you’ll have (26 days?). Let us know all the details if you want suggestions.
Thanks!!!
Actually, I’ll only have 23 full days there because I’m not counting travel days (departure day, arrival in Laos the next day, then 4 full days in Laos, and finally the departure to Indonesia and the return flight to Paris). I mostly have to work around my kid, who isn’t really into cultural visits or hiking… so it’s not easy, but if I include some beach time, a few shops, and especially accommodations with a pool, it works😛. I’m looking for a good compromise between cultural visits, nature (including beautiful rice terraces and/or volcanoes), easy hikes (no more than 3 hours of walking), ideally with swimming spots, nice beaches with great diving spots for me (that way I can combine business with pleasure—I have a Level 2 FFESSM, not PADI, but I usually dive everywhere with it without any issues), and a few shops for my daughter, who loves cute touristy places with shops full of useless stuff. Let’s just say that to "sell" temples to my daughter, I have to balance it with what she likes.
I’ve looked, and there are so many islands—I’m a bit lost. I have time, but not *that* much, so it’s not simple. I’ve seen good reviews about Lombok, but I get why you’d say it’s not enough for 23 days… I’ll have to see what I could combine it with.
Okay, given the requirements, I won’t suggest "trekking" to remote islands—so sticking with your initial idea: Bali. Normally, I’d recommend visiting with a go-with-the-flow attitude and leaving things to chance, but that might not suit your situation.
I’ve already thought of an itinerary that could match your (or your group’s) preferences (not too much culture/temples, no long hikes, but nature/rice terraces, beaches, diving, and touristy shops). Want to hear it?
Aha, oh yes, I’d love to know—didn’t expect that much, thanks! 😉
Anyway, I’m jotting down Bali, and I think I’ll rush to grab the ticket before prices go up (weirdly, the return flight is cheaper if I leave from Bali with a layover in Bangkok to catch the exact same flight I was planning to take from Bangkok if I ended my trip in Thailand… 😮)
Hi Michèle,
Like the others, I’d recommend Indonesia for this time of year—it’s one of the few Southeast Asia destinations that’s actually doable in summer. There are so many islands that there’s something for every taste.
Safe travels, and congratulations on your wedding in Laos!
Eric
In summary:
Sanur-Bedugul-Munduk-Lovina-Tulamben-Amed-Tirtagangga-Ubud
Apart from Sanur, where I’m planning 2 nights, all the other stops are 3 nights each.
Details:
Sanur.
A very touristy beach not too far from the airport, more for recovering from the flight than as a real destination. There are other options in the area, but it has the advantage of being more family-friendly than surfer or party-heavy. It’s also convenient for transport* to the next stop.
* Public transport, though available, isn’t Bali’s strong suit.
Bedugul.
Temple pura Ulun Danu Bratan*, walks, botanical garden.
Access from Sanur by Perama bus. Tickets sold at travel agencies. The bus will likely stop at their Ubud hub, but it’s better to stay in that city at the end of the trip.
* 2 km north on the main road—take a bemo.
Munduk.
Terraced rice fields (possible 4 km walking circuit), waterfalls, hikes.
Access from Bedugul by Perama shuttle or bemo.
Lovina.
Beach town. Dolphin watching (not great).
Access from Munduk by Perama shuttle or private car with driver (plenty across the island and affordable—bargain).
Tulamben.
Famous diving spot, especially the wreck.
Access from Lovina in 3 bemos via Singaraja or by private car.
Amed.
Beach, diving, fishing villages, short hikes on the volcano slopes.
Access from Tulamben in 2 short bemo rides.
Tirtagangga.
Small village amid terraced rice fields—short walks, historic bathing site.
Access from Amed in 2 short bemo rides through the rice fields.
Ubud.
Crowds, Monkey Forest*, tourist shops (lots of them), traditional dance performances in the evening, and day or half-day excursions by private car to nearby sites (sacred springs of Tirta Empul, Gunung Kawi temple, etc.).
From Tirtagangga, the only reasonable access is by private car. I’d done it by Perama bus before, but it seems no longer possible—check in Tirtagangga.
* These are aggressive animals that bite and steal—secure your belongings and don’t try to touch them. Don’t let your daughter run around.
That’s 23 nights. The next day, head to the airport by (depending on your flight time) Perama bus, private car, or taxi—allow plenty of time.
We visited the islands of Java and Bali with two 13-year-olds.
In Java, one fun thing to do with kids is exploring Meru Betiri National Park, with the ultimate goal of watching turtles lay their eggs on the beach and seeing the babies head to the sea in the morning. On top of the volcanoes, we also visited a factory that makes Batik fabric and another that makes Chinese shadow puppets. We also soaked in hot springs, etc.
In Bali, we went diving from the north to the south of the island, ending with a dive to see manta rays. The dives were amazing. We uploaded a few photos here under Photo Gallery - Underwater Photos - Bali 2012. We loved diving in Bali.
Hi there,
Thank you so much for your itinerary suggestion!
My sister just got back from Bali with a route you’d already recommended to me 🙂. We don’t travel exactly the same way—she doesn’t have a kid with her, for one—but she told me I’d really like your suggestion 😛. She especially loved Ubud and Munduk (totally different but for different reasons) and had wanted to go to Lovina but ran out of time... Also, overall, it wasn’t crowded, but it *is* the rainy season (3 days of rain out of 15), so that might explain it. Locals told them that July/August conditions are harsher because of *so many* people—traffic’s tough, etc. Though I’m not sure what "beaucoup beaucoup" really means in practice.
I usually like to plan an itinerary but leave some flexibility in case I really love a place or for other reasons (weather, etc.). But for Bali, if it’s peak season, it sounds like it’ll be tougher since I’ll probably need to book hotels in advance... And on that note, I’ve seen that accommodation prices are pretty high (up to double what my sister paid in February—it’s crazy). That’s a bit of a turn-off. At the same time, she said it was her best trip ever...
Otherwise, in Bali, we went diving from the north to the south of the island, ending with a dive to see the manta rays. The dives were amazing. We posted some photos under Photo Gallery - Underwater Photos - Bali 2012. We loved diving in Bali.
Thanks! Your diving photos are super cool—they make me want to go, and the visibility is incredible!!!
Hello Michèle,
Like the others, I’d recommend Indonesia at this time of year—it’s one of the few destinations in Southeast Asia that’s doable in the summer. There are so many islands that there’s something for everyone.
Have a great trip, and especially enjoy your wedding in Laos!
In the end, she told me she stayed longer in Ubud (a base for exploring) because the traffic was smooth, making it easy to get around.
She only regretted the Sidemen stop, which she didn’t find as nice as the rest, and next time, she’d swap it for Amed. She started at Tanah Lot, which she loved (though it’s packed in peak summer), then Ubud, Munduk (where she also added a night), and finished in Jimbaran before catching her flight.
So they took it pretty easy, staying in amazing hotels each time 😎 (though I checked, and prices in July/August are really double).
To the point of scrapping the Bali plan?
No, I figure July/August is packed everywhere (even Chiang Mai is probably swarming with tourists in July). I usually avoid overly touristy spots in summer, but since I have to go to Laos anyway, I’m not going to hunt for the place with the worst monsoon just to avoid people😛
I’m just wondering if this means I should book *everything* in advance...
I’m hoping for a slight price drop on the tickets—earlier this week, I was at 4,069 € for three tickets: Paris > Bangkok > Luang Prabang > Bangkok > Denpasar > Bangkok > Paris (which is already a lot). By Sunday, it had jumped to over 5,000 € 🏴☠️
In the end, she told me she stayed longer in Ubud (a base for exploring) because the traffic was smooth, making it easy to get around.
She only regrets the stop in Sidemen, which she didn’t find as nice as the rest, and next time she’d swap it for Amed. She started at Tanah Lot, which she loved (though it’s packed in the middle of summer), then Ubud, Munduk (where she added an extra night), and finished in Jimbaran before flying out.
In the end, she became much less ambitious about the number of stops—that’s a good thing.
in super hotels every time 😎 (but I checked, and prices in July/August are really double)
Aside from the beaches, you can sometimes find simple but charming and family-run accommodations in Bali. They usually aren’t listed on booking sites—you only discover them once you’re there, and their prices are much more reasonable than the "super hotels." Costs in Indonesia, including accommodation, are roughly the same as in Laos or Thailand.
I’m hoping for a small price drop for the tickets. At the start of last week, I was at 4069 € for three tickets: Paris > Bangkok > Luang Prabang > Bangkok > Denpasar > Bangkok > Paris (which is already a lot). By Sunday, it had gone up to over 5000 € 🏴☠️
How are you searching?
Don’t search on weekends because ticket comparison sites know that’s when demand is highest, so prices go up. That could explain the difference between the 4069 € at the start of the week and the 5000+ € on Sunday. For the same reason, prices offered at night are often lower than during the day.
Try again tonight after clearing your cookies* on your computer, and you might find better prices.
*otherwise, the price will stay at 5000+ €
Hey, I usually search on Google Flights. I set a price alert for the dates, but then I do my searches in private browsing. Often, I see the price go up, but generally, when it's a few months before the flight, the price drops at some point, and I jump on it...
I haven't tried the midnight alert yet 😛, but it's worth a shot... thanks!
Right now, prices have all gone up, even with crappy layovers (but I don't do flights with layovers like Doha because that means two long flights in a row).
Hi,
Not a question about price—after hearing "don’t go in August" so much, I finally caved. I’m giving up on Bali. I’m keeping my itinerary but shortening it for a two-week trip outside of summer. I’m worried I’ll be disappointed. I’ll fall back on Cambodia (and its monsoon, lol)
Hi there, here’s my new itinerary: after the wedding, I’ll spend one week in Cambodia (just Siem Reap, yes, I know it’ll be packed like Bali, but apparently it’s like that all year round...) then I’ll head to Chiang Mai and the surrounding area for the rest of the trip (so two weeks for that part, though I might end up with 3 days in Koh Samui if domestic flights aren’t too expensive). Reading through different travel journals, Cambodia seems to be a unanimous favorite, but I’ve never been to Chiang Mai, and for what it’s worth, I noticed that the Cambodia journals in July had more gray days than Chiang Mai’s 😎.
I was just wondering if, at this time of year, it’s better to book domestic flights in advance or if I can wait and do it on the spot? For example, if we (well, the little one) get temple overload, it’d let me leave Siem Reap for Chiang Mai “on the fly.”
I’ve already booked the round-trip flights from Paris to Bangkok (3,600 € for the 3 tickets 🏴☠️) and my domestic flight to Laos from Bangkok (here, the price is really sweet with Air Asia, top top top). I’ll at least take the Laos > Siem Reap flight, but for the others, I’d love to book them on the spot depending on our mood...
Has anyone tried this before—is it risky or doable? (For hotels, it doesn’t seem to be a problem to show up without a reservation in Chiang Mai)
Chiang Mai and its surroundings (...) but I might end up spending 3 days in Koh Samui if domestic flights aren’t too expensive).
The only airline serving Koh Samui is Bangkok Airways, which is excellent but not a low-cost carrier at all. It flies directly to Samui 1–2 times a day from Chiang Mai, plus from Bangkok, and sometimes offers small promotions.
(Siem Reap (...) then I’ll spend the rest of the trip in Chiang Mai)
No direct flights.
I’ll at least take the flight from Laos to Siem Reap
Only from Luang Prabang, not daily (5 times a week).
I was just wondering if, at this time of year, it’s better to book domestic flights in advance or if I can wait and do it on the spot?
(...)
I’d really like to do it on the spot based on how we feel...
You don’t have to book right now, but waiting until the last minute would be risky. Or be ready with a Plan B using buses.
For hotels, it doesn’t seem like a problem to show up without a reservation in Chiang Mai
That’s right—given the density of accommodations in Chiang Mai, you won’t end up sleeping outside. The area inside the "square" is the nicest part of the city and the best place to stay.
You don’t have to plan everything right now, but waiting until the last minute would be risky. Or else, be ready with a bus Plan B.
Bummer! I’ll go for the 3-day pass with 5 days on-site, which already seems pretty good based on the reviews (though I’ll still look into the bus option since we’re not in a huge rush to get to Chiang Mai).
Yes. Since the 3 days don’t have to be consecutive, it’ll let you possibly slot in 1 or 2 "off" days from the ruins because you should know they’re a bit tiring to visit—even as an adult, when you get back to the hotel in the evening, you’re happy with your day but usually wiped out.
(I’ll still look into the bus since we won’t be in a rush to get to Chiang Mai)
Two main options:
- "Direct" bus Siem Reap-Bangkok (only one/day I think) or bus Siem Reap-Poipet + bus Aranya Prathet-Bangkok (the whole trip taking 8-9h), then daytime or overnight bus Bkk-Chiang Mai (10-12h) or a flight but no train since you have to book it in advance.
- Bus Siem Reap-Poipet (~3h) + bus Poipet-Khorat (common nickname for Nakhon Ratchasima) in 5h + daytime or overnight bus Khorat-Chiang Mai (10-12h). Khorat is really ugly.
There are other options leaving Cambodia through its northern border, but they’re not any simpler. More details in this discussion starting 15/03/2025: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10701219;search_string=anlong%20veng
Hi Michèle,
You wrote "(Siem Reap only, yes, I know, it’ll be packed)"—I went back in 2022 and was surprised to find the site much less crowded. The Chinese tourists haven’t returned yet. I just read a post by worldwildbrice who went back to Angkor at the end of 2023!! He had the same observation. He writes:
"Angkor Wat
The only temple where there were really crowds, but here no groups of Chinese tourists shouting—just dozens of Khmers instead." However, there are a lot of very aggressive monkeys—don’t eat or drink in front of them!!! To deal with this problem, there was talk of removing them.
Little tip: try entering through the back of the temples where there’s no one and walk toward the entrance for photos of the gates with almost no people, since everyone will be in the middle of the temples.
With a child, on temple-free days, there are walks on the lake, stilt villages or floating villages, and pleasant countryside.
Have a great trip, Eric
Your knowledge of Southeast Asia is impressive😉
Thanks!!
Okay, but I’m ditching the bus trip 🏴☠️, I’ll stick with the 5 days and book the flight in the meantime
Hi Eric,
Thanks for this info. That would be a (very) nice surprise, then. I did read an article about the return of Chinese tourists, which is still slow in Thailand, with forecasts even lower for 2025 (-30% compared to pre-COVID), so it makes sense that Angkor would be affected. By the way, last year, most of the Asian tourists I ran into in Vietnam were Taiwanese or Korean...
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And I’m actually reading "worldwildbrice"’s articles right now 😛... haven’t gotten to the one you mentioned yet.
Little tip: try entering through the back of the temples where there’s no one, and walk back toward the entrance for that photo of the entrance gate(s) with almost no people, since they’ll be in the middle of the temples.
I’ll stick with the 5 days and secure the flight by then
I think that’s the best thing you can do.
The flight will go via Bangkok. Be careful—there are two airports there that aren’t close to each other:
- Suvarnabhumi (BKK), where Bangkok Airways lands (one of the airlines that serves Siem Reap).
- Don Muang (DMK), used by low-cost carriers.
I ran a simulation for July 28th for the shortest possible flights that don’t arrive in Chiang Mai after 4 PM. I found two options:
AirAsia flight FD 611 at 11:55 AM, 1h40 transfer at DMK*, then AirAsia flight FD 3439 at 2:40 PM, arriving at 3:55 PM for a total cost of $203 per person (checked baggage not included).
* Baggage transfer is handled by the airline—a service that seems new for a low-cost carrier.
("Connection protected by the airline.
Your airline will cover the connection for this leg of your flight. This means they'll:
-Transfer your bags to the next flight
-Provide the necessary assistance if you miss your connection
You may contact your airline for more information.")
Bangkok Airways flight PG 932 at 9:40 AM, 1h25 transfer at BKK, then flight PG 217 at 12:25 PM, arriving at 1:45 PM for a total cost of $211.30 per person if you manage to snag the "web promotion" fare (checked baggage included).
Hey, I’m back on the forum after a long break. Feels good to talk travel again!
Thanks a lot. I checked out the flights you mentioned. It’s a tad more expensive with checked baggage, but not by much—still a really good deal.
I’ve just made a small change: since Koh Samui is pretty pricey and I have to go through Bangkok anyway to get to Chiang Mai, I’m making a quick stop in Pattaya to take my little one to the big water park. It adds a trip from DMK to Pattaya and then Pattaya to BKK, but I’d rather do that than have her overdosing on temples. Plus, it’ll keep her in a good mood so we can enjoy Chiang Mai and the surrounding area afterward😛
Hi there,
I was planning to go to Pattaya before heading to Chiang Mai to take my daughter to an amusement park (Ramayana Water Park) so she doesn’t get overwhelmed with temples (we’ll be coming back from Angkor, and in the north, I’ll be visiting quite a few more temples). But I just read this discussion: https://voyageforum.com/forum/arnaques-violence-en-thailande-d10709988/
I knew Pattaya wasn’t a highly recommended destination, but since I was going for a very specific reason, I thought it might be possible to stay away from all that (I’d read several heated discussions on this forum suggesting there’s a "dark" side to Pattaya and a family-friendly Pattaya where families from Bangkok go on weekends).
Now, though, people are talking about outright scams and targeted tourist aggression...
I think I’ll skip this stop unless there’s really a family-friendly area *around* Pattaya?
Why not stay in Bangkok and take your daughter to the Samut Prakarn Crocodile Farm* or Safari World & Marine Park**?
* Accessible by several city buses but it’s a long and not straightforward trip. Otherwise, take a taxi or go through an agency. I’ve been there twice (in 40 years), it’s become pricey for foreigners, it’s crowded but it’s interesting and impressive.
** Located in Bangkok itself, in the northeast (Klong Sam Wa district). No buses, so check with an agency or take a taxi. I’ve passed by hundreds of times but never gone in. At certain times of the year, lots of storks nest in the trees along the road by the entrance.
If going through an agency, booking the day before for the next day is enough.
Awesome, thanks a ton—this’ll work perfectly (I think I’ll go to "Safari World & Marine Park"). I’d actually searched on Tripadvisor but typed "amusement park"… way easier to handle, too! ;)
My trip starts in Laos, but I’m transiting through Bangkok and staying one night before catching my flight to Luang Prabang the next day. Since it’s not just a layover, I’ll have to apply for the digital card. But afterward, I’m returning to Thailand for a longer stay. I’ve searched online for the validity period but can’t find the info.
I’m wondering if I’ll need to reapply when I come back to Thailand or if the digital card will still be valid.
Hi, thanks so much!
I see the info isn’t super clear on the sites since I’m not the only one asking this question😛...
Anyway, too bad—it would’ve been better if it were valid for 30 days...
Hey, don’t lose sight of the fact that Indonesia is huge, and it can get expensive with flight tickets after a while, even with low-cost airlines like Air Asia or Lion Air.
Also, what are your main interests?
Hi, thanks so much!
I see the info isn’t that clear on the sites since I’m not the only one asking the question😛...
Too bad, it would’ve been better if it were valid for 30 days...
Hello,
I’m jumping in a bit late to the discussion... to answer your question about the weather, I’ve traveled to Southeast Asia many times, always in July/August, and the monsoon has never really been an issue—except once in Phnom Penh.
Of course, you have to expect heavy rain in the late afternoon, but it rarely lasts more than 2 hours and doesn’t happen every day.
Hello,
Finally leaving today—promised, I’ll post a trip report when I’m back ;).
As usual, I’m last-minute about this, but does anyone know if there’s an eSIM that works in both Laos and Cambodia? I’m checking Holafly, but it’s not clear...
Thanks if anyone has the info 😛
Hello, just replying to myself in case anyone was wondering—Holafly works great in Laos and Cambodia (and in a bunch of other Asian countries).
Personally, I find it super handy when visiting multiple countries—you switch from one network to another without even thinking about it
In this thread https://voyageforum.com/forum/que-choisir-premier-voyage-en-asie-en-ete-indonesie-thailande-d10774923-1/ DomBegga is hesitating between Thailand and Indonesia for summer 2026 and his first trip to Asia. He’ll also be traveling with a young child.
The rainy season in Thailand seems to be making him hesitate. Since you’ve just returned from there a few days ago, could you please go and tell him how it actually was weather-wise? Was it manageable? A real hassle? Several of us have already told him "no worries," but maybe he’d pay more attention to your "fresh" feedback...
Hello, yes, with pleasure! :) This weekend, I’ll actually be working on my travel journal...
And I owe you (and everyone else) a huge THANK YOU because your tips really helped me out during this incredible one-month trip!
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Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Bonjour, cela faisait longtemps que je n'avais pas sollicité votre aide par le biais de ce forum, qui m'avait bien manqué ! J'espère que vous allez bien, nouveaux ou anciens.
J'ai un projet de voyage du 6 au 18 février 2027 avec ma soeur (nous avons 47 et 50 ans... le temps passe à une vitesse...). Je lorgne sur un billet d'avion de Paris le 6 février qui atterrit à Bangkok le 7 février à 15h, avec un retour de Bangkok le 18 février à 12h.
Ma soeur ne connait pas la destination du voyage, et ce sera la 1ère fois qu'elle ira en Asie. Ses critères : plages, soleil, cocktails sur la plage. Pour ma part, j'aime ça mais aussi la découverte, nature, forêts, et un certain confort (alternance guesthouse et hôtels de plus grand standing parfois, avec piscine). Un peu d'animation le soir serait top, mais pas trop (plutôt de bons cocktails dans une bonne ambiance qu'une rave-party ;-). Et je ne peux m'empêcher de rêver à la faire crapahuter un peu dans une forêt tropicale (souvenirs et fous rires garantis, mais elle me maudirait sur le coup), et de lui faire découvrir quelques paysages karstiques.
Pour ma part, j'ai eu l'occasion d'aller en Thaïlande mais ce fût il y a 15 ans déjà...
L'idée serait de lui donner un aperçu de Bangkok pour 1 ou 2 nuits, quelques jours sur une île (mais laquelle...), une excursion dans une forêt tropicale avec 1 ou 2 nuits sur place (Khao Sok ?), puis retour à Bangkok.
Pour l'île "principale", et bien que j'ai lu le Guide du Routard, je suis toujours aussi indécise, car difficile de concilier tout cela avec une île où nous ne serions pas aussi nombreux que sur la Côte d'Azur en août : Koh Lanta ? Khao Lak (mais ce n'est pas une île) ? Koh Tao (je pourrais peut-être passer mon PADI, mais je crains qu'elle ne s'y ennuierait et qu'il vaut mieux que je me réserve un autre voyage solo pour le passer) ? Koh Yao Yai (j'ai peur que nous nous y ennuyions le soir venu) ? Quel dilemme !
Merci si vous avez pris le temps de me lire jusqu'ici. N'hésitez pas à me donner des conseils, ils seront tous les bienvenus et chaleureusement accueillis.
L'ébauche d'itinéraire serait le suivant (je préfère sacrifier une nuit à Bangkok si besoin) :
· samedi 6 février 2027 : départ (nuit dans l'avion)
· dimanche 7 février 2027 : arrivée à 15h, probablement vers 18h à l'hôtel, soirée à Bangkok (nuit à Bangkok)
· lundi 8 février 2027 : journée à Bangkok (Wat Pho et marché flottant ?) (nuit à Bangkok)
· mardi 9 février 2027 : trajet pour Koh Lanta ou autre île (vol pour Phuket ou Krabi ?) (nuit sur île « x »)
· mercredi 10 février 2027 : plage et ballades (nuit sur île « x »)
· jeudi 11 février 2027 : plage et ballades (nuit sur île « x »)
· vendredi 12 février 2027 : plage et ballades (nuit sur île « x »)
· samedi 13 février 2027 : plage et ballades (nuit sur île « x »)
· dimanche 14 février 2027 : plage et ballades (nuit sur île « x »)
· lundi 15 février 2027 : trajet pour Khao Sok - sortie nocturne pour Khao Sok (nuit à Khao Sok)
· mardi 16 février 2027 : découverte et rando Khao Sok (nuit à Khao Sok)
mercredi 17 février 2027 : trajet retour pour Bangkok (nuit à Bangkok)
· jeudi 18 février 2027 : vol retour pour Paris à 12h
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip?
I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Hello.
In 1996, we crossed Vietnam from Saigon to Hanoi by motorbike—Minsk bikes we bought in Saigon. I haven’t been back since, and it seems like a lot has changed.
- We’re heading to the south (well, the north and center) with the family in July-August (3 people).
- Is the road network more developed now? Back then, there was only National Route 1 from south to north. I’m thinking of renting a car this time (no motorbike with the family—though in ’96, they had a Jawa sidecar for sale, and we hesitated… maybe it’s for the best).
- Is Halong Bay really something to avoid because of overtourism? Even back then, it was pretty crowded. Is there a less touristy alternative?
- We’ll be traveling from Hanoi down to Danang (the only city we didn’t stop in back in ’96). Even though it’s a bit overhyped in a Chinese-tourist kind of way (from what I’ve read), we’re only going for the beach—pure relaxation for 7 days. The beaches are stunning, and I know the South China Sea is warm like coffee.
- Then, we’ll visit Hoi An, where I stopped in ’96. It was already popular with backpackers back then, but no glowing boats or all the touristy fuss!
- After that, Hue, where I have great memories—it’s a beautiful city.
- And also the nature around Ninh Binh, followed by 2-3 days in Hanoi.
That’s the plan. I’d love to hear any tips to avoid mass tourism, and if anyone’s done this before:
- Is it possible to rent a car in Danang and drop it off in Hanoi?
Hey everyone,
I’m over in East Borneo in mid-July.
I’m struggling to wrap up the end of my itinerary, even though it’s pretty straightforward (long but simple).
Last year, we did Malaysia (KL and the mainland + around Kuching).
Day 1 – Arrive in Kota Kinabalu early, stroll around town and hit the must-sees.
Day 2 – Excursion to Tunku Abdul Rahman Park, snorkeling at 3 islands.
Day 3 – Hike around Mount Kinabalu without summiting (450 per person, no way).
Day 4 – Poring Hot Springs + evening flight to Sandakan.
Day 5-6-7 – Kinabatangan River (still looking for the right guide).
Day 8 – Sepilok for the orangutans, the Sun Bear Centre, and Rainforest Discovery Centre.
Day 9 – Selingan, turtle island.
Day 10 – Head to Semporna.
Day 11-12-13-14 – Sipadan, Mabul, Kapalai.
Day 15 – Bohey Dulang.
Day 16 to Day 25: I’M STUCK.
I looked into Danum Valley, but for 3 days/2 nights, they’re quoting 650 € per person—come on, that’s ridiculous.
I checked out a detour into Indonesia (still East Borneo), but I’m having trouble deciding what would be amazing.
I read about Sangalaki + Kakaban (2 islands, 1 base) / Mahakam Delta - Kutai (orangutans and river) / Sungai Boh (Dayak Kayan) – jungle & culture.
But honestly, I’m struggling to finalize this itinerary.
If we venture that way, we’d head back to KK from Balikpapan.
For a 4-month stay in Egypt, I had ENORMOUS problems. The regulations are very bureaucratic and extremely nitpicky there. For a 4-month stay in the Philippines, I was wondering if the procedures are just as complicated? I’m bringing my cell phone with an eSIM. Should I choose a plan from Canada for use in the Philippines, or should I get a plan only once I arrive? After 30 days, do I renew with the Canadian provider I chose before leaving, or do I switch to a local company? Do I need to register my phone with the authorities in the Philippines? (That was the case in Egypt.) For the 3rd and 4th months, will it be just as simple—renewing with a Canadian or local provider—or should I expect problems?
Hello,
I’ll be in Malaysia with my wife, mainly in Langkawi and Penang for Christmas and New Year’s at the end of 2026.
If you’ve had the experience—and since I’ve read (though it’s not very clear) that these two islands get quite crowded during this period—would you recommend booking accommodation well in advance, or is it easy to find something on the spot?
Hotels or Airbnb?
Do you have any great tips for accommodation or any practical info to share?
We’ll be staying 5 to 7 days on each island.
Thanks in advance for your replies
Hi there. To make the most of Lake Toba, is it better to find accommodation on the lake’s shores (which one?) or on Samosir Island? Thanks for your tips!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Vietnam as a family on July 8th for a little over 3 weeks (north and center). We’ve only booked the first 3 nights in Hanoi, and nothing else after that. We like to decide things on the spot and go with the flow, without rushing everywhere. But I’m still a bit unsure: when heading down to the center (Hue), is it better to book the overnight trains in advance? We don’t want to take any flights while we’re there—just use the overnight train for the long trips. But I’m worried we won’t get seats if we buy the tickets on the spot, say, 2 days before. What do the experts here think? And which website can we use to book the tickets? Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hi everyone!
I’m heading back to Thailand in July 2026 with a stopover in Cambodia to visit the Angkor site.
After Angkor, I’ve booked a stay on Ko Chang island. Does anyone know if there are direct transport options from Cambodia to Ko Chang without having to go back through Bangkok? That would be amazing!!
I think there are, but I’d need more details!!
I went to Thailand in February 2025 and don’t remember having to apply for a visa—is that still the case now? And for Cambodia too?
Thanks so much!!!
Laurence from Bayonne
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai?
Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai.
My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok:
No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna:
From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄).
Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM.
Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau:
Found this via AI—is it legit?
No online booking, as far as I can tell.
Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly????
And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
