Denied compensation for over 3-hour delay on American Airlines
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Hi Voyage Forum members,

My wife and I took American Airlines flight no. 63 on Tuesday, February 18, 2025, at 9:30 AM, with a scheduled arrival in Miami at 1:30 PM local time.

After about half an hour of flight, a young passenger had a medical emergency. They were given care, and a flight attendant went to get an oxygen bottle. Then, an announcement over the loudspeakers informed passengers that the plane was diverting to London.

Once at London Heathrow (LHR), we were waiting to depart again. But a new announcement asked us to disembark because the plane wouldn’t be able to take off until the next day. (American responded to my follow-up, saying they’re required to limit their staff’s working hours to a certain number per day.)

A crowd of travelers gathered at the American Airlines counter, where they were told to follow instructions to get to a hotel. Meanwhile, I called the airline’s customer service to find a replacement flight that same day, since I couldn’t afford to leave the next day. If I had, I would’ve lost my hotel and car rental reservations due to late cancellation, which would’ve cost me a significant amount.

After discussing in English with customer service and the counter staff (who I handed my phone to), we managed to get two seats on British Airways flight BA 0209, which was leaving about 2 hours later.

That’s how, after a stressful wait unsure if we’d get our luggage back, and once we did, we hurried—heavily loaded—to reach the far-off terminal for our new boarding on foot and by train shuttle.

We finally took off for Miami and landed around 7:30 PM, which was 6 hours later than the originally scheduled arrival time of American Airlines flight 63.

On top of the stress, there were the costs of meals in the meantime, and I had to notify the hotel and car rental company about our delay.

As a result, I requested compensation for a flight delay of at least 3 hours (and I’ve involved my insurance’s legal protection to pursue this claim). American Airlines argued that exceptional circumstances prevented them from compensating me.

What do you think? Is my request unreasonable?
GL Glykofilousa Regular ·
Hi there, in your case, the airline couldn't have you travel on the same plane due to a lack of staff, so this isn't an exceptional circumstance, and you're entitled to a flat-rate compensation. Here are a few general rules to follow: - You have five years to file your compensation claim—here, 600 € for a 3,500 km flight with over 3 hours of delay. So avoid those online agencies that claim to handle everything and will take between 30% and 40% of your compensation (like Flightright, RetardVol, etc.). - Everything must be done by mail with a registered letter and acknowledgment of receipt. The airline has two months to respond. Avoid emails and phone calls—the airline doesn’t have to cite exceptional circumstances upfront; they must provide proof. After two months, contact your local court (check service-public.fr by entering your town’s name). Make sure to scan all your documents (SMS received, airline emails, registered letter), as files are submitted online. Usually, the airline gives in before going to court.

For my part: a 5-hour delay on a Bordeaux-Athens flight with Volotea due to an air conditioning breakdown and waiting for a new crew from Algiers. Seven weeks after sending the registered letter, Volotea offered me either a one-year voucher or the 400 € compensation, payable within two months. It was paid 7 weeks later—so 14 weeks total to resolve the dispute.

A site with sample letter templates: service-public.fr (look under "fiches pratiques" > "transport-mobilité"). You can request info by email there. Otherwise, on the *Guide du Routard* forum—specifically the "avion" section—the member gilloraymondo advised and guided me well. Clicking on their username will give you all the necessary info via PM.

Keep us posted, and good luck!

PS: The airline was supposed to provide free drinks and meals in London. If you have receipts for your meals, reimbursement for your expenses is mandatory.
LE Lescaribous Globetrotter ·
hi, Following up on Glykofilousa’s reply, I highly recommend a fellow VF member’s site—''specialized in flight delays and other ''hiccups'', Elviajeropar. Here’s the link: Compensation for flight cancellations, denied boarding (overbooking or not), and significant flight delays – Stand up to airlines I’ve successfully filed compensation claims multiple times using the tips from his site. It works—just be patient and keep any frustration out of your request when you write it up!! ;-) Good luck!!
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GL Glykofilousa Regular ·
I second that—it’s the site I was also recommended on the GDR.
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
in your case, the airline couldn't get you on the same flight due to a lack of staff, so it's not an extraordinary circumstance

Isn’t the medical emergency itself the extraordinary circumstance?

Everything else stemmed from that medical issue.
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BE Benishoes Regular ·
Thanks to everyone for your replies. I’ll try to follow your suggestions if my legal protection doesn’t work out and to be more persistent this time. It turns out I’d already experienced a major transatlantic delay with Norwegian before (due to a technical inspection). My legal protection couldn’t get anything, and I’d already consulted Elviajorepar. I’m also carefully noting the name of the forum user from *Le Guide du Routard*. As for Attila’s thoughtful point, I’m taking it into account, even if changing the departure date and flight raises questions.
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
Hello, Glad to hear that my website https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com has been helpful to many of you.

In the case we're discussing, the health issue that caused the problem does indeed qualify as "extraordinary circumstances that couldn't have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken" (end quote). But the SINE QUA NON condition is that they must PROVIDE PROOF.

Reasonable measures: these were taken as soon as you were rebooked "as soon as possible."

If you had only been rebooked the next day, and could PROVE there were available seats on another flight the same day—even with another airline—you would have been entitled to compensation. See here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2023/09/29/indemnisation-meme-si-circonstance-extraordinaire-droit-reacheminement-dans-les-meilleurs-delais/ and here (ongoing case): https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/

As a result, in your case, I’m afraid you won’t be able to get compensation if the airline provides PROOF of the "extraordinary circumstances" they’re claiming. Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com
US Usafan Globetrotter ·
The delay wasn't their fault... so no compensation. That seems totally normal to me.
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US Usafan Globetrotter ·
What you're saying doesn't hold up. The flight was diverted due to a passenger falling ill. The airline is absolutely not at fault. There was no issue with the aircraft, and no mistake on the airline's part. This is clearly an exceptional circumstance that doesn’t qualify for compensation.

I’ve been compensated three times for my flights. Twice, the airline canceled or delayed flights due to an issue with the plane. The third time, an engine caught fire.

In all three cases, there was no exceptional circumstance—just something that should have been avoided with proper aircraft maintenance.

For example, a weather issue is an exceptional circumstance that relieves the airline of responsibility. The same goes for a passenger falling ill...

Additionally, the compensation process nowadays is only handled through a request on their website. They acknowledge receipt of your claim very quickly. Compensation is paid out very fast (less than a month each time). Rest assured, airlines don’t mess around with the law. They accept responsibility without hesitation when it’s their fault. My compensations were with British Airways and American Airlines, both of which play by the rules perfectly.
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BE Benishoes Regular ·
Thanks for the details.
BE Benishoes Regular ·
Thanks Olive for this feedback, but I’m noting ElviajeroPar’s little caveat: “✈️ if the airline provides PROOF of the ‘extraordinary circumstances’ they’re citing ✈️”
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
For example, a weather issue is an exceptional circumstance that relieves the airline of responsibility.

It’s not automatic! Based on this reason alone, and without mentioning re-routing "as soon as possible," check this out: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2023/01/16/vol-annule-ou-retarde-pour-cause-de-meteo-droit-a-indemnisation-circonstances-extraordinaires-ou-pas/

Moreover, regardless of the exceptional circumstances—even if PROVEN—compensation is still due if the airline doesn’t re-route the passenger "as soon as possible." You did the right thing by immediately looking for alternative flights, stopping just before payment, and taking screenshots.

Compensation is very quick (less than a month each time). Believe me, airlines don’t mess with the law. They accept it without fuss.

This is increasingly rare and more of an exception these days. For my part, and just to give a few examples, I’ve already won cases against:

- Iberia twice for 3 compensations (1 group procedure for 2 delayed flights). In one case, Iberia tried to settle the evening before the hearing, and in the other, in the courtroom just before the case was called. In both cases, I felt it was too late and went through with the ruling.

- TUIfly for... simple refunds of flights canceled by the airline: they had given me vouchers when I never agreed to them.

- Air Caraïbes only decided to compensate me for a delay after I took them to court, just before the hearing.

- An ongoing case in court against Lufthansa for a refund of a flight canceled by the airline. It’s already a sure win, but Lufthansa is digging in its heels. See here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/10/23/lufthansa-championne-du-refus-des-droits-des-passagers/

- Another ongoing case in court (hearing this month) against Swiss International Air Lines for a canceled flight, precisely due to weather—the reason isn’t even contestable since the airport was closed. But since the airline didn’t re-route me "as soon as possible," compensation is still due regardless of the "exceptional circumstances," even if proven. See here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/

And many other examples here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2021/03/02/exemples-dindemnisations-obtenues-de-multiples-compagnies-aeriennes/

Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com
SO Soulfull Regular ·
For example, bad weather is an exceptional circumstance that relieves the airline of responsibility.

It’s not automatic! Based on this reason alone, and without mentioning re-routing "as soon as possible," check this out: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2023/01/16/vol-annule-ou-retarde-pour-cause-de-meteo-droit-a-indemnisation-circonstances-extraordinaires-ou-pas/

Moreover, regardless of the exceptional circumstances—even if PROVEN—compensation is still due if the airline doesn’t re-route the passenger "as soon as possible." You did the right thing by looking for alternative flights IMMEDIATELY, stopping just before payment, and taking screenshots.

Compensation is very quick (less than a month each time). Believe me, airlines don’t mess with the law. They accept without fuss

This is increasingly rare and more the exception these days. For my part, and just to give a few examples, I’ve already won cases against:

- Iberia twice for 3 compensations (1 group procedure for 2 delayed flights). In one case, Iberia tried to settle the evening before the hearing, and in the other, in the courtroom just before the case was called. In both cases, I felt it was too late, so I went through with the ruling.

- TUIfly for... simple refunds of flights canceled by the airline. They’d given me vouchers even though I’d never agreed to them.

- Air Caraïbes only decided to compensate me for a delay after I took them to court, just before the hearing.

- An ongoing case in court against Lufthansa for a refund of a flight canceled by the airline. It’s a sure win, but Lufthansa drags things out. See here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/10/23/lufthansa-championne-du-refus-des-droits-des-passagers/

- Another ongoing case in court (hearing this month) against Swiss International Air Lines for a canceled flight, precisely due to weather—the reason wasn’t even contestable since the airport was closed. But since the airline didn’t re-route me "as soon as possible," compensation is still due, no matter the "exceptional circumstances," even if proven. See here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/

And many other examples here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2021/03/02/exemples-dindemnisations-obtenues-de-multiples-compagnies-aeriennes/

Best regards

How come you’re not blacklisted by (all?) airlines yet? 😏
US Usafan Globetrotter ·
Well, anyway, I’ve never had any issues getting compensated three times over. And just this past September, with a 3-hour and 15-minute delay—all it took was a simple photo of the screen showing the landing time...
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PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Hi,

No, you can’t claim compensation because the delay wasn’t the airline’s fault—it was due to a medical emergency involving a passenger. That’s what caused the diversion, so it’s considered an exceptional circumstance.
Cordialement, Patrick.
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
How come you’re not blacklisted by (all?) airlines yet? 😏

Hi there, It’s actually quite simple: an airline must be able to justify such a decision. It’s very clear that if an airline tried to play that game, I’d immediately take them to court for "refusal to sell." Legally, that’s serious. Only insurance companies can do that, based on their risk assessment.

And I can’t imagine a defendant telling a judge, "because the plaintiff dared to demand their passenger rights in court!!!" With that kind of response, the judge—whose role would be challenged—would bring the full force of the law down on that defendant.

Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
Well, in any case, I’ve never had the slightest problem getting compensated three times. And just last September with a 3-hour and 15-minute delay—just a photo of the screen showing the landing time was enough...

Hi,

If I say it’s the exception, that means the exception exists! Besides, airlines aren’t used to contesting delays at all—it’s too easy to prove online (FlightAware’s website).

There are just a few cases where they dispute the landing time, the time the plane came to a stop, and the time the door opened (only the last one counts).

Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com
LE Lescaribous Globetrotter ·
Hi.

How come you haven’t been blacklisted by (all?) airlines yet?

Our 'specialist' in Airline Regulations is just reminding everyone what every air passenger should know ("Ignorance of the law is no excuse," as the saying goes!!), so this isn’t "illegal" in any way, and no airline could blame him for what THEY should be doing (informing their passengers of their rights!!)—something they’ve started to do in recent years. In fact, I’ve noticed that airlines (at least in Canada) are more proactive than before when it comes to their duties (and thus passengers' rights in cases of delays/cancellations, etc.). Air Canada, for example, now displays European regulations on its website (okay, the page isn’t exactly "front and center," but what progress compared to a few years ago!) Anyway, thanks Elviajeropar for your site—I’ve used it several times in the past to claim the compensation I was owed!!
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SB Sbrcoach Veteran ·
Hello

This person was a huge help in getting compensation after my CDG/Chicago flight was canceled a few years ago, without having to go through paid intermediaries.

I followed all their advice—it took months, but I finally got the compensation I was entitled to.

Another big thank you to them
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BE Benishoes Regular ·
Here’s an incident report I found somewhere online—I don’t remember where—and had saved, where a technical issue was cited:

“American Airlines Paris-Miami Flight Makes Emergency Landing at London Heathrow

The aircraft involved in the incident was a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, registered as N875BD.

By Kevin Derby February 18, 2025 3-Minute Read

Photo: Clément Alloing

LONDON – An American Airlines (AA) flight from Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport (CDG) to Miami International Airport (MIA) made an emergency landing at London Heathrow Airport (LHR) on Tuesday (February 18, 2025).

The Fort Worth-based carrier operates a daily flight between Paris, France, and Miami Airport in the United States.

Photo: FlightRadar24

American Airlines Emergency Landing

According to FlightRadar24 data, an American Airlines flight departed Paris CDG at 8:48 AM UTC.

After being airborne for over 30 minutes, the flight crew declared an emergency.

The crew contacted London Heathrow ATC and decided to make an emergency landing at Heathrow. The flight landed safely at London Heathrow at 9:48 AM UTC.

Photo: By Anna Zvereva from Tallinn, Estonia - American Airlines, N808AN, Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, CC BY-SA 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?

The exact nature of the emergency was unknown, but some experts speculated it was due to a medical emergency.

However, reviewing the data, it appears there were technical issues with the aircraft, as it remained grounded for nearly seven hours.

The plane involved in the incident was a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner, registered as N875BD. Additionally, it’s a 4.3-year-old aircraft powered by GEnX engines.”
BE Benishoes Regular ·
Following up on my previous message, here’s the corresponding link: https://aviationa2z.com/index.php/2025/02/18/american-airlines-flight-makes-emergency-landing-at-heathrow/
PA Papatte88 Regular ·
Hi everyone, I’m bumping this thread because I need some advice. Our flight from Basel to Phoenix via London was canceled 9 hours before departure. We were rebooked on a Zurich–Phoenix flight via New York, but due to extreme weather conditions in NY, our flight was delayed, and we missed our connection (when it rains, it pours!). We arrived more than 8 hours after the originally scheduled time. I tried contacting American Airlines through their online form, but there’s no space for a detailed message or to upload supporting documents for compensation. I then emailed customer.relations@aa.com, but I got this response: You’ve reached a mailbox that is not monitored by American Airlines.

To ensure a consistent and transparent experience, all inquiries related to travel disruptions on American Airlines should be directed to our Customer Relations team by submitting a request through our contact form here. And we’re back to the same form with no way to explain the situation properly. I thought about sending a registered letter, but I’m worried it’ll take even longer to process. What do you all think?
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
Hello, Most of the time, even with exceptions, you need to be *very* patient when dealing with this type of case! With rare exceptions, the proper way to proceed is by sending a registered letter with acknowledgment of receipt. You mentioned that the originally scheduled flight departed from Basel. More precisely, this refers to EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg. It’s important to note that this airport is ENTIRELY located on French territory. What’s called the "Swiss zone" at EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg is merely the result of a Franco-Swiss police and customs agreement—nothing more. Therefore, under the application of EU Regulation 261/2004, the French local court with jurisdiction over EuroAirport Basel Mulhouse Freiburg is the competent authority.

You didn’t specify the reason for the cancellation of the first flight segment. However, the only reason that will matter is the one the airline provides in writing. That said, it will be more appropriate to claim compensation for the flight cancellation (the cancellation of a connecting segment counts as cancellation of the entire flight) rather than for the delay, if the re-routing offered did not meet the requirements of Article 5 of Regulation 261/2004:

Article 5 Cancellations 1. In the event of a flight cancellation, affected passengers: (..) c) are entitled to compensation from the operating air carrier in accordance with Article 7, unless they are informed of the cancellation: (...) iii) less than seven days before the scheduled departure time if they are offered re-routing allowing them to depart no more than one hour before the scheduled departure time and to reach their final destination less than two hours after the scheduled arrival time. End of quote. You’ll notice that in this case of cancellation and re-routing, the threshold is only 2 hours (compared to 3 hours if you file your claim under delay).

You can address your claim to the airline that was supposed to operate the first flight segment, as well as to any other airline that was supposed to operate another segment. See here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/

You’ll find templates to follow here: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com

On the other hand, if you lack patience, with rare exceptions, it’s not even worth starting. Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com
PA Papatte88 Regular ·
Thanks so much for the clear and detailed response. To answer your question, I don’t know the reason for the flight cancellation. I just received an email saying the flight was canceled without any further explanation. I checked, and indeed, the entire flight was canceled.

I sent my claim to American Airlines (the airline I booked through) with a description of the facts and attached the supporting documents as indicated on your site. I actually got their response pretty quickly—they basically asked me to file this claim with the airline that canceled the flight, namely British Airways, as well as the one responsible for the delay on the first leg, United Airlines.

As you said, you’ve got to be patient and not throw in the towel after the first negative response.
PA Papatte88 Regular ·
I’ve read and reread Regulation (EC) 261/2004 and the site https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/

I’m a bit confused about my compensation and would love your input. My flight was canceled and:

I was notified less than 7 days before departure.

The airline offered me a rebooking that would get me to my final destination 3h30 after the originally scheduled time.

Theoretically, compensation for cancellation would be 600 €, but it would be reduced by 50% because the scheduled arrival time of the rebooked flight exceeds the original time by less than 4 hours (for my flight over 3,500 km). However, my rebooked flight ended up experiencing a real delay, and I had a total delay of 8h40. (disastrous weather conditions) My question: Is it better to claim compensation for cancellation (risk of a 50% reduction) or for delay (but with the concern that weather conditions might disqualify me from compensation)? Thanks in advance for your advice!
PA Papatte88 Regular ·
Just adding to this: Since I bought my flights with American Airlines / the canceled flight was the first leg operated by British Airways / Our rebooking was operated by United.

Naturally, it’s not straightforward. One airline is late with the cancellation, the other with the delay...😕
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

You’re only entitled to compensation if your connecting flight (the whole journey) departed from the European Union. All the answers to your questions can be found in this example: https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com/2024/01/12/reacheminement-catastrophique-droit-indemnisation-meme-circonstances-extraordinaires-2/

Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com
TH ThomasBerna1 ·
I also had a five-hour delay, which was a really bad experience. I’m sure I won’t be using this service again in the future. My wife was really upset about the delay, especially since there were no apologies or compensation from the company.
Thomas
EL ElviajeroPar Globetrotter ·
I also had a five-hour delay, which was a really bad experience. I definitely won’t be using this service again in the future. My wife was really upset about the delay, especially since there were no apologies or compensation from the company.

Hello,

The right to compensation, as outlined in Regulation 261/2004 of the European Parliament and Council, only applies under the conditions specified in Article 3, including:

"Scope

1. This regulation applies:

a) to passengers departing from an airport located in the territory of a Member State subject to the provisions of the treaty;

b) to passengers departing from an airport located in a third country and arriving at an airport located in the territory of a Member State subject to the provisions of the treaty [...] if the operating air carrier performing the flight is a Community carrier.

Best regards,
https://retardimportantavion.wordpress.com

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