Temple du Preah Vihear au départ de Siam Reap? (Cambodge)
by Eliza02
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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et encore une petite question, y a t il des trésors cachés qui ne subissent pas des assauts de cars et qui selon vous en valent vraiment la peine. Dans cet ordre d'idées, est-il possible de visiter le temple du preah vihear au départ de siam reap?
On peut dorénavant accéder au temple de Preah vihear par le côté Cambodgien ..... même si il est plus facile d'y accéder par le côté thailandais, mais rien ne l'empêche du côté khmer ....
Quant à dire que " Certains pensent que quelques Khmers rouges sont encore dans les parages " ce n'est pas une bonne formulation, car en effet le long de la frontière avec la Thailande il y a énormément d'anciens dirigeants khmers rouges qui y vivent, mais au vu et au sus de tous et qui occupent bien souvent des fontions importantes à l'intérieur de ces région, mais il n'y a plus de khmers rouges au sens fanatique du terme prêt à tuer tout ce qui passe ...... n'exagérons rien, c'est terminé depuis longtemps et s'il y a des tentatives de rançonnage ou de brigandage dans la région ( et encore, la région est bien tenu justement par les anciens dirigeants khmers rouges ....... 🙂) ce n'est que le fait de bandits de grands chemins, et rien d'autre ....
Quant à dire que " Certains pensent que quelques Khmers rouges sont encore dans les parages " ce n'est pas une bonne formulation, car en effet le long de la frontière avec la Thailande il y a énormément d'anciens dirigeants khmers rouges qui y vivent, mais au vu et au sus de tous et qui occupent bien souvent des fontions importantes à l'intérieur de ces région, mais il n'y a plus de khmers rouges au sens fanatique du terme prêt à tuer tout ce qui passe ...... n'exagérons rien, c'est terminé depuis longtemps et s'il y a des tentatives de rançonnage ou de brigandage dans la région ( et encore, la région est bien tenu justement par les anciens dirigeants khmers rouges ....... 🙂) ce n'est que le fait de bandits de grands chemins, et rien d'autre ....
Lorsque j'ai visité Preah Vihear depuis la Thailande, il y a deux ans, il y avait sur le site des gardiens armés qui devaient assurer la sécurité des visiteurs. Et je ne crois pas qu'il s'agisse d'une bonne ou d'une mauvaise formulation en parlant de Khmers rouges. C'est tout à fait correct de dire que ce que que l'on entendait par "Khmers rouges" sous Pol Pot n'est plus d'actualité, à premièe vue. Comme tu le soulignes, Alan, il y a énormément de Khmers Rouges le long de la frontière, même s'ils occupent des fonctions importantes. Tu prends juste l'exemple du PM Hu Sen et tu as un bel exemple de Khmer rouge "reconverti".
A part ce commentaire, j'ai simplement souligné le fait que la route est très mauvaise. Alors, chacun fait comme il veut et s'il veut essayer ce trajet, pourquoi pas.
Salut clavdia .... 🙂
On ne va pas polémiquer sur des formulations au sujet des khmers rouges .... le sujet est bien trop grave pour celà, et surtout au moment ou le procés va s'ouvrir pour juger justement les auteurs de ce génocide ....
Je ne voulais simplement pas que par le " phrasé " que tu avais emprunté, eliza02 soit à même de penser que la région soit encore tenu par les khmers rouges en tant qu'entité fanatique et avide de sang .... ce qui serait de l'affabulation totale, car le mouvement " khmers rouges " de Pol Pot en tant que tel n'existe plus et ne terrorise plus personne .....
Il faut toujours faire attention à ce que l'on écrit, car pour certaines personnes qui ne s'intéressent pas précisément à l'histoire de ce pays, on pourrait penser le contraire même si en effet les dirigeants khmers rouges habitent toujours la région, mais tu ne trouveras pas khmers plus serviables que ces gens là maintenant ......
Merci à toi de permettre d'apporter ces précisions utiles,
A trés bientôt,
On ne va pas polémiquer sur des formulations au sujet des khmers rouges .... le sujet est bien trop grave pour celà, et surtout au moment ou le procés va s'ouvrir pour juger justement les auteurs de ce génocide ....
Je ne voulais simplement pas que par le " phrasé " que tu avais emprunté, eliza02 soit à même de penser que la région soit encore tenu par les khmers rouges en tant qu'entité fanatique et avide de sang .... ce qui serait de l'affabulation totale, car le mouvement " khmers rouges " de Pol Pot en tant que tel n'existe plus et ne terrorise plus personne .....
Il faut toujours faire attention à ce que l'on écrit, car pour certaines personnes qui ne s'intéressent pas précisément à l'histoire de ce pays, on pourrait penser le contraire même si en effet les dirigeants khmers rouges habitent toujours la région, mais tu ne trouveras pas khmers plus serviables que ces gens là maintenant ......
Merci à toi de permettre d'apporter ces précisions utiles,
A trés bientôt,
Pourtant, tu polémiques peut être sans t'en rendre compte, cher Alan. ce que tu réponds n'est que le reflet de ce que j'ai posté. Alors ???
Je pense, que lorsque l'on se rend dans un pays que l'on de connaît pas du tout, il serait utile faut de lire quelque chose sur l'histoire et les événements passés et actuels. En particulier pour le Cambodge.
Et pour finir, je persiste à dire que la route est rude et qu'ensuite, il faut faire une bonne grimpette de deux heures. voilà, voilà, et très bon trip aux amateurs.
Alan, peux-tu me dire à partir d'où et par quel moyen le temple de Preah Vilear est désormais accessible.
J'ai lu qu'il n'était accessbile qu'en char à boeuf pendant la mousson...
Salutations,
Philippe
IL est accessible sans trop de soucis par le coté Thailandais.
Même s'il est au Cambodge ...
Patrick.
Bien sûr que je vais te dire 🙂, et pour une fois je vais faire trés simple et te demander d'utiliser le moteur de recherche de voyageforum en tapant simplement " Preah Vihear " et de lire principalement les témoignages de pasnic, karolus et avi ......
C'est beau le progrés avec voyage forum ....... 😉
C'est beau le progrés avec voyage forum ....... 😉
😏 sans problème. Nous y sommes allés au mois de janvier et nous ne le regrettons pas.
Route un peu difficile, mais sans plus, surtout longue. Nous sommes partis deux nuits. avec un guide et un chauffeur que nous avions retenus depuis la france et passant par une agence très sérieuse que nous recommandons. Nous vous donnerons si vous le voulez les coordonnées.
Et la passé 4 heures de l'après midi plus personne. Nous étions 3 touristes sur le site et c'est un souvenir extraordinaire.
Bon voyage
Pas
pascale et nicolas
Bonjour,
Je suis allé au temple de Preah Vihear au départ de Siem Reap en novembre dernier avec un 4x4, chauffeur et guide (par Asian Trails, réservé avant le départ de France). L'agence m'avait préparé un circuit de 2 jours 1/2 départ de Siem Reap en début d'après-midi pour Along Veng, sur une bonne piste. Le lendemain départ pour Preah Vihear. Malgré le début de la saison sèche, nous avons fait les 30 premiers km en 2 heures en raison de bourbiers. L'arrivée à Preah Vihear se fit à 16 h au lieu de 12 h prévu. La montée dans un sentier très raide est spectaculaire. Le temple est magnifique et la vue du haut de la falaise est splendide. Presque personne ne vient par le Cambodge. Comme c'était la fin d'après-midi, les touristes venant par cars entiers de Thaïlande partaient et à la fin nous étions presque seuls. Après la visite, redescente du sentier de nuit, puis il a fallu trouver une petite guest-house au pied de la montagne car il était impossible de rejoindre la ville prévue en raison de la nuit et de l'état de la route. Mais repas et nuit furent super. Partout, des gens peu habitués aux touristes et adorables. Ensuite, nous avons dû revenir par Along Veng pour retourner ensuite à Koh Ker que nous devions voir. après avoir déjeuné dans un excellent restaurant au pied de la montagne aux 1000 lingas. Koh Ker et Beng Malea, plus proches de Siem Reap, sont maintenant accessibles quelle que soit la saison. Par contre Preah Vihear est peut-être impossible à atteindre en voiture à la saison des pluies. Il est vrai que Preah Vihear, de par sa situation, est magique. Mais Koh Ker et Beng Malea, plus accessibles sont merveilleux par leur originalité et leur quasi-absence de touristes. Amicalement Jean-Luc
Je suis allé au temple de Preah Vihear au départ de Siem Reap en novembre dernier avec un 4x4, chauffeur et guide (par Asian Trails, réservé avant le départ de France). L'agence m'avait préparé un circuit de 2 jours 1/2 départ de Siem Reap en début d'après-midi pour Along Veng, sur une bonne piste. Le lendemain départ pour Preah Vihear. Malgré le début de la saison sèche, nous avons fait les 30 premiers km en 2 heures en raison de bourbiers. L'arrivée à Preah Vihear se fit à 16 h au lieu de 12 h prévu. La montée dans un sentier très raide est spectaculaire. Le temple est magnifique et la vue du haut de la falaise est splendide. Presque personne ne vient par le Cambodge. Comme c'était la fin d'après-midi, les touristes venant par cars entiers de Thaïlande partaient et à la fin nous étions presque seuls. Après la visite, redescente du sentier de nuit, puis il a fallu trouver une petite guest-house au pied de la montagne car il était impossible de rejoindre la ville prévue en raison de la nuit et de l'état de la route. Mais repas et nuit furent super. Partout, des gens peu habitués aux touristes et adorables. Ensuite, nous avons dû revenir par Along Veng pour retourner ensuite à Koh Ker que nous devions voir. après avoir déjeuné dans un excellent restaurant au pied de la montagne aux 1000 lingas. Koh Ker et Beng Malea, plus proches de Siem Reap, sont maintenant accessibles quelle que soit la saison. Par contre Preah Vihear est peut-être impossible à atteindre en voiture à la saison des pluies. Il est vrai que Preah Vihear, de par sa situation, est magique. Mais Koh Ker et Beng Malea, plus accessibles sont merveilleux par leur originalité et leur quasi-absence de touristes. Amicalement Jean-Luc
Bien sûr que je vais te dire 🙂, et pour une fois je vais faire trés simple et te demander d'utiliser le moteur de recherche de voyageforum
Bonjour, Je suis nouvelle sur le forum et connaissant bien le Cambodge pour y avoir vecue une quinzaine d'annees.Je consulte habituellement les messages en spectacteur et je n'ai pu resister a repondre a ce message: je pensai monsieur Alan que ce forum etait pour repondre directement aux personnes plutot que de les renvoyer sur un moteur de recherche meme si il fait parti du forum.J'ai plutôt l'impression que vous n'avez jamais mis les pieds a Preah Vihear et que vous vous prenez la grosse tete .Apres recherche vous etes assez specialise sur le triangle Siem Rep Phnom Penh et Sianoukville.Si je peux vous conseiller laissez plutot les forumistes ayant deja vecu cette experience s'exprimer meme si vous avez visite cette region en virtuel .Voila c'est dit.Pour revenir au sujet : Pour Preah Vihear je conseille fortement de passer par la Thailande surtout, surtout en saison de pluie. Frederiqua
Bonjour, Je suis nouvelle sur le forum et connaissant bien le Cambodge pour y avoir vecue une quinzaine d'annees.Je consulte habituellement les messages en spectacteur et je n'ai pu resister a repondre a ce message: je pensai monsieur Alan que ce forum etait pour repondre directement aux personnes plutot que de les renvoyer sur un moteur de recherche meme si il fait parti du forum.J'ai plutôt l'impression que vous n'avez jamais mis les pieds a Preah Vihear et que vous vous prenez la grosse tete .Apres recherche vous etes assez specialise sur le triangle Siem Rep Phnom Penh et Sianoukville.Si je peux vous conseiller laissez plutot les forumistes ayant deja vecu cette experience s'exprimer meme si vous avez visite cette region en virtuel .Voila c'est dit.Pour revenir au sujet : Pour Preah Vihear je conseille fortement de passer par la Thailande surtout, surtout en saison de pluie. Frederiqua
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I’m spending 4 days in Kuala Lumpur.
Could you let me know what’s absolutely worth visiting and what’s not really worth the effort?
Any suggested itinerary?
Apart from Batu Caves, I don’t have many ideas...
I’m traveling with my partner and our 16-year-old son.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi,
After our trip to China, we want to spend a week in the Philippines for some beach time and snorkeling.
We're looking for the best spot to settle in—nice beaches, great marine life, and short transfer times.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Hi there,
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Does anyone know of a private transfer or taxi company that organizes transfers from the Sukhothai area to Chiang Mai? Our routes are Sukhothai-Lampang, Lampang-Chom Thong, and Chom Thong-Chiang Mai. My searches on Google Maps, 12Go, and others haven’t turned up much...
For our Bangkok-Sukhothai trips, I use a company I’ve already tried, but they don’t have a fleet available from Sukhothai and have to go through third-party companies—which, understandably, take their commission. This nearly doubles the prices...
There are four of us, and we’re not traveling light, so a minibus isn’t an option. ;-)
Thanks for your tips! DrSnuggle
Hello,
While traveling in Thailand, I’m looking for a Buddhist kumlai reed bracelet.
Does anyone know where I can find one?
In Bangkok, I visited a few temples but didn’t see any in the nearby shops.
If you have any ideas, I’d love to hear them! Have a great day! :-)
Hi there
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
My trip’s coming up, and I’m having a bit of trouble with three bus/minivan routes. Usually, I find everything at this time of year, but this time—yikes!
Sandakan → Sepilok: No app for this one—you just hop on bus #14 at the local terminal (pay cash on board). But where do I catch it, and where’s the stop??
Sandakan → Semporna: From what I’ve heard, it’s the Sida Express company (great name, right? 😄). Can’t book online, but apparently, you *have* to because there’s only one bus at 8 AM. Where do I board, and where does it drop me off?
Semporna → Tawau: Found this via AI—is it legit? No online booking, as far as I can tell. Minivans leave from a stop in the Jalan Hospital area, near the Milimewa supermarket, supposedly???? And when you arrive, does it drop you at **Sabindo Square** in Tawau?????
Thanks for any tips—I’m stuck!
Hi there,
we’ll be in Mai Chau in June and we’re thinking of heading to Sapa, but first spending a few days in Bac Ha to do some hiking and explore the area.
Is this a good idea for those who’ve been there?
How do you get there?
Thanks for your feedback.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there,
I’m planning an itinerary and would love some feedback on whether it’s doable and if the number of days per destination is enough—or too much. I was also debating whether to add an extra night on an island or spend an extra night in Kampot to visit Kep or Battambang.
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
March 23: Arrival in Phnom Penh in the morning March 24: Phnom Penh March 25: Phnom Penh March 26: Depart for Kampot March 27: Kampot March 28: Depart for Battambang March 29: Battambang March 30: Tonlé SAP to Siem Reap March 31: Siem Reap April 1: Siem Reap April 2: Siem Reap April 3: Siem Reap April 4: Siem Reap April 5: Departure
Thanks for any suggestions or help!
Hi there,
Yesterday in the Thailand section, 100% of the new threads were just about beach destinations 😕...
So here’s the counterattack in the form of this photo thread, dedicated solely to the countryside: the locals, their livestock, fields, farms, rice paddies, small rivers, and agricultural machinery. If you’ve got any pictures that fit these categories, feel free to add them!
Comments welcome.
For each photo, I’ll (or you can) indicate the area where it was taken.
Kanchanaburi:
Kanchanaburi:
Sri Chiangmai:
Soppong:
Tha Wang Pha:
Kanchanaburi:

Kanchanaburi:

Sri Chiangmai:

Soppong:

Tha Wang Pha:

🙂 Hi everyone!
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hope you're all doing well! It's been a while since I last traveled, but I'm finally heading out again soon!
For those familiar with SOUTHEAST ASIA, I'm planning to leave in mid-June (with the trip ending at the latest in November), and I don’t have a precise idea of exact places or itineraries yet. The thing is, this period is usually the rainy season...
Any advice? I was thinking of Malaysia or Indonesia, like Sulawesi, for example (all countries and islands in Southeast Asia interest me except Bali).
Any recommendations? I’m doing my research online, but if anyone here has the time and knowledge, I’d love to hear from you.
Thanks everyone, take care and stay happy! ❤️
Hi there,
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!
My partner and I are planning a trip to Indonesia in September-October 2026. It’ll be our first time in Asia, and we’re thinking of hitting the classic spots in East Java and Bali, then wrapping up with a cruise around Komodo for some snorkeling/diving. Here’s a rough draft of our itinerary—I’m wondering if it’s doable.
20/09: Flight from Jakarta to Yogyakarta, arrive around noon, afternoon/evening and overnight in Yogyakarta. 21/09: Borobudur 22/09: Prambanan 23/09: Travel to Bromo (Cemoro Lawang) 24/09: Bromo 25/09: Kawa Ijen 26/09: Travel to Bali, overnight in Pemuteran 27/09: Excursion to Pulau Melujan, overnight in Pemuteran 28/09: Travel to Munduk, overnight in Munduk 29/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 30/09: Explore Munduk and surroundings, overnight in Munduk 01/10: Route to Ubud (via Pura Ulu Danau Bratan, Jatiluwih?), overnight in Ubud 02/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 03/10: Explore Ubud and surroundings, overnight in Ubud 04/10: Travel to Denpasar, flight to Labuan Bajo, overnight in Labuan Bajo 05/10: Komodo cruise 06/10: Komodo cruise 07/10: Komodo cruise, flight to Denpasar in the late afternoon/evening or overnight in Labuan Bajo. 08/10: Flight to Denpasar (if not taken the day before), afternoon in Jimbaran, overnight near Denpasar 09/10: 10:00 AM flight Denpasar - SIN, overnight in Singapore 10/10: Flight SIN-YQB
Thanks for your thoughts—and for your time!





