Nous souhaitons aller à Kuala Lumpur en fevrier 2017 et je souhaiterai savoir ce qu il y a à visiter et combien de jours me conseillez vous de rester ? Merci pour vos réponses
Visiter Kuala Lumpur en combien de jours?
by Vilsie
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Nous souhaitons aller à Kuala Lumpur en fevrier 2017 et je souhaiterai savoir ce qu il y a à visiter et combien de jours me conseillez vous de rester ? Merci pour vos réponses
Nous souhaitons aller à Kuala Lumpur en fevrier 2017 et je souhaiterai savoir ce qu il y a à visiter et combien de jours me conseillez vous de rester ? Merci pour vos réponses
Bonjour
Ma femme et moi nous aimons bien KL.
_ Je dirais une matiné pour se promener dans le centre historique (place Merdeka, Cathedrale Sainte Marie, et promenade le long de la rivière devant la petite moquée "Masjid Jamek", ...). Le centre historique est vraiment pas loin du Pasar Seni (le marché central) on peut donc coupler les deux sur une journée. Meme si le Pasar Seni (Central Market) est pour les touristes, il possède un food hall très propre à l'étage, de nombreux cafés et restos, un fish spa très compétitif (10MYR les 10minutes environ) (et les prix de nombreuses boutiques sont corrects.)
_ une journée pour découvrir les Pétronas , les 2 tours "jumelles" de KL. Elles sont superbes, et la vue d'en haut vaut la peine, vraiment.
_ une journée pour Batu Cave
_ une journée pour le Bird Park (50 MYR environ 11€) que l'on peut coupler avec la visite du park et du jardin des orchidées (gratuits)
_ une journée pour juste flâner à KL et regarder l'incroyable mixité culturelle de cette ville moderne. Pour cela je conseille les environs du Pasar Seni ou le centre historique.
Mon épouse et moi avons aimé Kuala Lumpur, 😎🙂 et j'ai rencontré beaucoup de voyageuses femmes en solo qui ont aussi beaucoup aimé KL cette grande ville moderne. Pourquoi?
Peut etre à cause de l’extraordinaire melting-pot culturel qu'est KL; chinoises en minijupe, indiennes en sari colorés, musulmanes en tchador, birmans en longyi... semblent se côtoyer en une bonne entente. (On a l'impression que la terre entière se retrouvent à KL )
C'est l'indifférence générale à la manière dont on s'habille, d'où on vient, tellement il y a de cultures et de peuples à KL différents! Et par rapport à l'Indonésie, ou meme à la Thailande, c'est le sentiment d'une grande tranquillité qui domine car plus personne ne vous demandera où vous allez ? combien d'enfants vous avez? si vous voulez acheter... etc etc, en fait personne à KL ne vous demandera quoi que ce soit sans vous connaitre! Mais dès que l'on a besoin d'aide, ou que l'on engage la conversation, les malaisiens se mettront en quatre pour vous rendre service.
Beaucoup de voyageurs aiment flâner dans Chinatown, mais nous sommes plus réservé sur les rues très centrales et commerçantes de Chinatown (un peu trop de monde surtout la nuit). Cependant nous aimons loger près de Chinatown qui est un quartier très proche du centre historique, et assez proche du Bird Park (3 à 4 km mais pas si agréable d'y aller à pieds de Chinatown car il y a beaucoup de routes à grande circulation, ou nous n'avons pas trouvé le meilleur chemin pour y aller).
Bon voyage,
d'autres avis:http://www.onedayonetravel.com/top-5-des-visites-incontournables-a-kuala-lumpur-en-malaisie/
C'est l'indifférence générale à la manière dont on s'habille, d'où on vient, tellement il y a de cultures et de peuples à KL différents! Et par rapport à l'Indonésie, ou meme à la Thailande, c'est le sentiment d'une grande tranquillité qui domine car plus personne ne vous demandera où vous allez ? combien d'enfants vous avez? si vous voulez acheter... etc etc, en fait personne à KL ne vous demandera quoi que ce soit sans vous connaitre! Mais dès que l'on a besoin d'aide, ou que l'on engage la conversation, les malaisiens se mettront en quatre pour vous rendre service.
Beaucoup de voyageurs aiment flâner dans Chinatown, mais nous sommes plus réservé sur les rues très centrales et commerçantes de Chinatown (un peu trop de monde surtout la nuit). Cependant nous aimons loger près de Chinatown qui est un quartier très proche du centre historique, et assez proche du Bird Park (3 à 4 km mais pas si agréable d'y aller à pieds de Chinatown car il y a beaucoup de routes à grande circulation, ou nous n'avons pas trouvé le meilleur chemin pour y aller).
Bon voyage,
d'autres avis:http://www.onedayonetravel.com/top-5-des-visites-incontournables-a-kuala-lumpur-en-malaisie/
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
Bonjour JF et Carmen 😉
Merci à Vilsie d'avoir initié ce post ! Grand merci JF pour ta réponse bien détaillée qui me sera très utile lors du stop de 4 jours que nous allons faire à Kuala mi-novembre en direction du Cambodge. Peux-tu me dire si le prix des taxis est abordable ? On privilégie souvent les taxis pour les retours de longues ballades.
Bises à tous les deux.
Merci à Vilsie d'avoir initié ce post ! Grand merci JF pour ta réponse bien détaillée qui me sera très utile lors du stop de 4 jours que nous allons faire à Kuala mi-novembre en direction du Cambodge. Peux-tu me dire si le prix des taxis est abordable ? On privilégie souvent les taxis pour les retours de longues ballades.
Bises à tous les deux.
Nicole
Bonjour
Un autre avis : j'y étais la semaine dernière pour la 2eme fois .. et pour la 2eme fois, j'étais content de partir au bout d'un jour 😊 - Il y a plein de centre commerciaux immenses comme LKCC .... mais aller a KL pour ça .... - Chinatown se réduit a une peau de chagrin : d'autres villes en Asie ont un vrai quartier chinois, plus grand, plus vivant ... - j'aime bien les tours Petronas, mais c'est vite vu - les anciennes maisons coloniales ont quasiment toute été rasées ... dommage - autre pb : les autoroutes qui coupent la ville ds tous les sens En conclusion , pour moi 2 jours suffisent .. a vous de voir en fc des difféentes réponses
Bon voyage
Un autre avis : j'y étais la semaine dernière pour la 2eme fois .. et pour la 2eme fois, j'étais content de partir au bout d'un jour 😊 - Il y a plein de centre commerciaux immenses comme LKCC .... mais aller a KL pour ça .... - Chinatown se réduit a une peau de chagrin : d'autres villes en Asie ont un vrai quartier chinois, plus grand, plus vivant ... - j'aime bien les tours Petronas, mais c'est vite vu - les anciennes maisons coloniales ont quasiment toute été rasées ... dommage - autre pb : les autoroutes qui coupent la ville ds tous les sens En conclusion , pour moi 2 jours suffisent .. a vous de voir en fc des difféentes réponses
Bon voyage
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Carnets de voyages en images : Bornéo 2025 (Brunei et Malaisie), Sumba 2024, Papouasie 2022, Vietnam 2019, Moluques 2018, Sulawesi 2016, Philippines 1984 (eh oui ! ) .
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Bonjour Christian
Les avis différents sont les biens venus et permettent au lecteur de se faire une idée plus complète d'un lieu. Les premières fois que je suis allé à KL, je n'avais pas particulièrement aimé cette grande ville moderne, car je logeais loin du centre ville et les déplacements le long des routes étaient fatiguant et bruyants. Et puis la 3ième fois (2010) et la 4ième fois en 2011, on a changé de lieux de résidence, on a logé à la GH Le Village (99A Jalan Tun H.S. Lee, GH qui a déménagée depuis) et avec mon épouse on a beaucoup aimé KL. Pourquoi? Plus de longues marches le long des axes routiers, car nous étions directement au centre de la ville, ce qui nous a permis de prendre son temps et de juste flâner, par exemple à la terrasse de restaurants indiens, ou autres 🙂😉. Et là en regardant plus attentivement, l’incroyable mixité culturelle, l'incroyable diversité des peuples qui cohabitent à KL nous a sauté aux yeux ! 🙂 Je t'assure qu'on a vu une indienne en sari colorée, une musulmane en tchador gris, et une chinoise en minijupe qui bavardaient ensemble. 😮 Et en regardant bien, on voit que le serveur du resto est birman, que le petit temple indien juste derrière est très fréquenté, etc... J'ai trouvé qu'il y avait encore pas mal de vieilles maisons coloniales en centre ville. Je suis d'accord, les centres commerciaux ne sont pas forcement ce que l'on vient visiter, mais le Pasar Seni est agréable, ne serait ce que pour y manger, boire un verre, ou se faire chatouiller les pieds par des poissons... Et puis une partie des cafés du Pasar Seni ont des tables qui donnent sur la rivière avec une vue superbe sur la ville.
@Niclaude Taxi: les taxis sont bon marchés, à condition que le compteur "meter" soit mis. Il faut l'exiger impérativement, mais c'est souvent difficile sur les lieux touristiques.
@ Vilsie Hotel GH:
Le Village, etait notre GH avec une ambiance chaleureuse, "backpackers" où les voyageurs du monde entier se retrouvaient pour discuter... 🙂 Nous y avons rencontré une anglaise qui y est restée des semaines ! Les chambres étaient très inégales et comme toi Vilsie on va devoir chercher une nouvelle GH ou Hotel dans un rayon de 500m dans ce quartier. Par exemple, la superbe The Explorers Guesthouse No 128 & 130 Jalan Tun H.S Lee, Kuala Lumpur, environ RM 88 la double (RM 35 en dortoir de 6). The exploreur GH est superbe mais cela me parait quand meme cher. Mais il y a tellement de GH et d'hotels dans ce quartier. En élargissant le plan ci dessous de KL, on peut voir apparaître beaucoup d'hotels et GH (par exemple, on a noté : Traveler Inn, Travel Hub, Birdnest, Wisin Hotel (15-17a Jalan Balai Polis | Jalan Panggong Grande chambre avec un petit wifi, et AC pour 80MYR. Plus un hotel qu'une GH.) Ou encore le fantastique Backhome hotel ( Hotel original, moderne et sympathique. Mais chambre à30€ (138 MYR) ! en direction de la cathédrale St John)
https://www.google.fr/maps/place/The+Explorers+Guesthouse/@3.144386,101.6959463,17.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x97b83bc1ed5d28b9!8m2!3d3.1453549!4d101.6966502
Comment REJOINDRE LE CENTRE DE LA CAPITALE DEPUIS L'AÉROPORT KLIA/KLIA2 (centre= Pasar Seni & Chinatown) 1; Par le Bus: si notre destination finale est Chinatown ou Pasar Seni , le plus simple (1h15 et aussi le moins cher environ 10 MYR) est de prendre le bus, bus jaune “aérobus”à destination de Chinatown ou Puduraya. Vous serez déposés à la zone Pudu Raya (n'oubliez pas de demander et de préciser «Pudu Raya" pour le chauffeur de bus) presque devant le supermarché Mydin. Là vous etes à 5 ou 10 minutes maxi à pied de votre hotel. Le taxi est inutile ! L'achat des tickets se fait directement dans le bus. L'arret fianl de ces bus est souvent le Mac Donald en face de la station Pudaraya, et devant le supermarché Mydin) et il ne reste plus que 500 à 600m à pied pour rejoindre Birdnest2, 300m pour le village GH (Chinatown) (et la plupart des GH sont à 100/600 m du Terminus du bus qui vient de l'aéroport et qui a pour destination China Town).
2.Par le train: L'option la plus rapide mais pas forcement la plus simple si votre destination est Chinatown, car devrez prendre ensuite un autre transport en gare de KL Sentral, le terminus du KLIA Expres. Trains en partance de KLIA et KLIA2; prendre un train direct (“KLIA Espres” ou un “KLIA transit” (3 stops) et vous arrivez à la station “KL Sentral Station” en 28 min ou 34 minutes pour RM 35. Puis de “KL Sentral” le meiux est sans doute de prendre un taxi. Sinon, vous prenez le _KMUTER, une sorte de métro aérien jusqu'à la station Kuala Lumpur. Delà il vous reste 600m à marcher (google itinéraire) pour rejoindre Chinatown et le long d' une autoroute . _ le LRT a une station plus proche de Chinatown (Pasar Seni) mais ne semble pas avoir d'arret à KL Sentral ???? Si votre destination est Chinatown, Birdnest 2, ou the Exploreur, il faut mieux prendre la bus car nous aurons moins de changement et mons à marcher. D'autres informations à partir de cette gare centrale sur le site comparateur d'hotel, pour Traveler Inn: http://www.french.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Step-Inn-Guest-House-and-Hostel/Kuala-Lumpur/44115/plan-d-acces#propname
Aeroport/Chinatown Attention: Le bus met plus longtemps pour revenir de Chinatown a l'aeroport que le trajet inverse car il fait un detour...( le prix est aussi plus eleve 12 au lieu de 8 Ringgit a l'aller). Et d'apres un habitué c'est normal donc prevoir au moins 1h45 pour le retour a l'aeroport de Chinatown.
SkyBus Air Asiea: Par contre le skybus de Air Asia, n'allait pas jusqu'à Chinatown, comme les autres compagnies de bus de l'aéroport mais que son terminus est "KL Sentral" ce qui oblige à prendre ensuite un autre transport pour aller à ces GH de Chinatown. Je pense qu'il faut donc mieux prendre une autre compagnie de bus de l'aeroport que le skybus au départ de l'aéroport, si votre destination sont ces GH de "Chinatown".
Les avis différents sont les biens venus et permettent au lecteur de se faire une idée plus complète d'un lieu. Les premières fois que je suis allé à KL, je n'avais pas particulièrement aimé cette grande ville moderne, car je logeais loin du centre ville et les déplacements le long des routes étaient fatiguant et bruyants. Et puis la 3ième fois (2010) et la 4ième fois en 2011, on a changé de lieux de résidence, on a logé à la GH Le Village (99A Jalan Tun H.S. Lee, GH qui a déménagée depuis) et avec mon épouse on a beaucoup aimé KL. Pourquoi? Plus de longues marches le long des axes routiers, car nous étions directement au centre de la ville, ce qui nous a permis de prendre son temps et de juste flâner, par exemple à la terrasse de restaurants indiens, ou autres 🙂😉. Et là en regardant plus attentivement, l’incroyable mixité culturelle, l'incroyable diversité des peuples qui cohabitent à KL nous a sauté aux yeux ! 🙂 Je t'assure qu'on a vu une indienne en sari colorée, une musulmane en tchador gris, et une chinoise en minijupe qui bavardaient ensemble. 😮 Et en regardant bien, on voit que le serveur du resto est birman, que le petit temple indien juste derrière est très fréquenté, etc... J'ai trouvé qu'il y avait encore pas mal de vieilles maisons coloniales en centre ville. Je suis d'accord, les centres commerciaux ne sont pas forcement ce que l'on vient visiter, mais le Pasar Seni est agréable, ne serait ce que pour y manger, boire un verre, ou se faire chatouiller les pieds par des poissons... Et puis une partie des cafés du Pasar Seni ont des tables qui donnent sur la rivière avec une vue superbe sur la ville.
@Niclaude Taxi: les taxis sont bon marchés, à condition que le compteur "meter" soit mis. Il faut l'exiger impérativement, mais c'est souvent difficile sur les lieux touristiques.
@ Vilsie Hotel GH:
Le Village, etait notre GH avec une ambiance chaleureuse, "backpackers" où les voyageurs du monde entier se retrouvaient pour discuter... 🙂 Nous y avons rencontré une anglaise qui y est restée des semaines ! Les chambres étaient très inégales et comme toi Vilsie on va devoir chercher une nouvelle GH ou Hotel dans un rayon de 500m dans ce quartier. Par exemple, la superbe The Explorers Guesthouse No 128 & 130 Jalan Tun H.S Lee, Kuala Lumpur, environ RM 88 la double (RM 35 en dortoir de 6). The exploreur GH est superbe mais cela me parait quand meme cher. Mais il y a tellement de GH et d'hotels dans ce quartier. En élargissant le plan ci dessous de KL, on peut voir apparaître beaucoup d'hotels et GH (par exemple, on a noté : Traveler Inn, Travel Hub, Birdnest, Wisin Hotel (15-17a Jalan Balai Polis | Jalan Panggong Grande chambre avec un petit wifi, et AC pour 80MYR. Plus un hotel qu'une GH.) Ou encore le fantastique Backhome hotel ( Hotel original, moderne et sympathique. Mais chambre à30€ (138 MYR) ! en direction de la cathédrale St John)
https://www.google.fr/maps/place/The+Explorers+Guesthouse/@3.144386,101.6959463,17.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x97b83bc1ed5d28b9!8m2!3d3.1453549!4d101.6966502
Comment REJOINDRE LE CENTRE DE LA CAPITALE DEPUIS L'AÉROPORT KLIA/KLIA2 (centre= Pasar Seni & Chinatown) 1; Par le Bus: si notre destination finale est Chinatown ou Pasar Seni , le plus simple (1h15 et aussi le moins cher environ 10 MYR) est de prendre le bus, bus jaune “aérobus”à destination de Chinatown ou Puduraya. Vous serez déposés à la zone Pudu Raya (n'oubliez pas de demander et de préciser «Pudu Raya" pour le chauffeur de bus) presque devant le supermarché Mydin. Là vous etes à 5 ou 10 minutes maxi à pied de votre hotel. Le taxi est inutile ! L'achat des tickets se fait directement dans le bus. L'arret fianl de ces bus est souvent le Mac Donald en face de la station Pudaraya, et devant le supermarché Mydin) et il ne reste plus que 500 à 600m à pied pour rejoindre Birdnest2, 300m pour le village GH (Chinatown) (et la plupart des GH sont à 100/600 m du Terminus du bus qui vient de l'aéroport et qui a pour destination China Town).
2.Par le train: L'option la plus rapide mais pas forcement la plus simple si votre destination est Chinatown, car devrez prendre ensuite un autre transport en gare de KL Sentral, le terminus du KLIA Expres. Trains en partance de KLIA et KLIA2; prendre un train direct (“KLIA Espres” ou un “KLIA transit” (3 stops) et vous arrivez à la station “KL Sentral Station” en 28 min ou 34 minutes pour RM 35. Puis de “KL Sentral” le meiux est sans doute de prendre un taxi. Sinon, vous prenez le _KMUTER, une sorte de métro aérien jusqu'à la station Kuala Lumpur. Delà il vous reste 600m à marcher (google itinéraire) pour rejoindre Chinatown et le long d' une autoroute . _ le LRT a une station plus proche de Chinatown (Pasar Seni) mais ne semble pas avoir d'arret à KL Sentral ???? Si votre destination est Chinatown, Birdnest 2, ou the Exploreur, il faut mieux prendre la bus car nous aurons moins de changement et mons à marcher. D'autres informations à partir de cette gare centrale sur le site comparateur d'hotel, pour Traveler Inn: http://www.french.hostelworld.com/hosteldetails.php/Step-Inn-Guest-House-and-Hostel/Kuala-Lumpur/44115/plan-d-acces#propname
Aeroport/Chinatown Attention: Le bus met plus longtemps pour revenir de Chinatown a l'aeroport que le trajet inverse car il fait un detour...( le prix est aussi plus eleve 12 au lieu de 8 Ringgit a l'aller). Et d'apres un habitué c'est normal donc prevoir au moins 1h45 pour le retour a l'aeroport de Chinatown.
SkyBus Air Asiea: Par contre le skybus de Air Asia, n'allait pas jusqu'à Chinatown, comme les autres compagnies de bus de l'aéroport mais que son terminus est "KL Sentral" ce qui oblige à prendre ensuite un autre transport pour aller à ces GH de Chinatown. Je pense qu'il faut donc mieux prendre une autre compagnie de bus de l'aeroport que le skybus au départ de l'aéroport, si votre destination sont ces GH de "Chinatown".
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
LO Jean-François,
Je complète ton post "Comment REJOINDRE LE CENTRE DE LA CAPITALE DEPUIS L'AÉROPORT KLIA/KLIA2 (centre= Pasar Seni & Chinatown)" :
3eme solution le taxi : un peu + cher que le KLIA express a partir de 2., moins cher a partir de 3 On a payé 102 RM de KLIA2 a notre hotel (proche des tours Petronas) Durée 50 min a 23h mardi dernier (peut-être - cher en journée ?). A cette heure apres l'avion, on , 'a pas regretté nos 103RM, on était bien crevé ! Pour le retour on a pris le bus KL Sentral-KLIA (glacial de chez glacial, complètement cinglés ces malaisiens, c'est pas la 1er fois qu'ils nous font le coup😠) pour 10RM et il met entre 45 et 55min suivant les bouchons. Bien pratique et pas cher
Avec le KLIA ekspres (train direct en 28 min pour KL Sentral), ça revient a 2x35 auquel il faut ajouter entre 2 et4 RM par personne pour le bus, aerotrain ou train de KL Sentral a ton hotel, donc finalement on est pas loin du taxi a 2
A part ça, d'accord avec toi pour la diversité des habitants et j'aime bien le mélange des musulmanes voilées et des malaises d'origine chinoise en mini-minijupe 😏
Je complète ton post "Comment REJOINDRE LE CENTRE DE LA CAPITALE DEPUIS L'AÉROPORT KLIA/KLIA2 (centre= Pasar Seni & Chinatown)" :
3eme solution le taxi : un peu + cher que le KLIA express a partir de 2., moins cher a partir de 3 On a payé 102 RM de KLIA2 a notre hotel (proche des tours Petronas) Durée 50 min a 23h mardi dernier (peut-être - cher en journée ?). A cette heure apres l'avion, on , 'a pas regretté nos 103RM, on était bien crevé ! Pour le retour on a pris le bus KL Sentral-KLIA (glacial de chez glacial, complètement cinglés ces malaisiens, c'est pas la 1er fois qu'ils nous font le coup😠) pour 10RM et il met entre 45 et 55min suivant les bouchons. Bien pratique et pas cher
Avec le KLIA ekspres (train direct en 28 min pour KL Sentral), ça revient a 2x35 auquel il faut ajouter entre 2 et4 RM par personne pour le bus, aerotrain ou train de KL Sentral a ton hotel, donc finalement on est pas loin du taxi a 2
A part ça, d'accord avec toi pour la diversité des habitants et j'aime bien le mélange des musulmanes voilées et des malaises d'origine chinoise en mini-minijupe 😏
Photos commentées voyages et montagne : http://christian.aude.free.fr
Carnets de voyages en images : Bornéo 2025 (Brunei et Malaisie), Sumba 2024, Papouasie 2022, Vietnam 2019, Moluques 2018, Sulawesi 2016, Philippines 1984 (eh oui ! ) .
Carnets de voyages en images : Bornéo 2025 (Brunei et Malaisie), Sumba 2024, Papouasie 2022, Vietnam 2019, Moluques 2018, Sulawesi 2016, Philippines 1984 (eh oui ! ) .
Bonjour
Un autre avis : j'y étais la semaine dernière pour la 2eme fois .. et pour la 2eme fois, j'étais content de partir au bout d'un jour 😊 - Il y a plein de centre commerciaux immenses comme LKCC .... mais aller a KL pour ça .... - Chinatown se réduit a une peau de chagrin : d'autres villes en Asie ont un vrai quartier chinois, plus grand, plus vivant ... - j'aime bien les tours Petronas, mais c'est vite vu - les anciennes maisons coloniales ont quasiment toute été rasées ... dommage - autre pb : les autoroutes qui coupent la ville ds tous les sens En conclusion , pour moi 2 jours suffisent .. a vous de voir en fc des difféentes réponses
Bon voyage
...assez d'accord : même pour les centres commerciaux, c'est pas la ville ou on fait les meilleures affaires question fringues.... ..j'y suis passé de très nombreuses fois, en route pour l'Indonésie...jamais très enthousiasmé. ..l'avantage : c'est moderne, tout le monde est plutôt serviable et parle anglais.
Un autre avis : j'y étais la semaine dernière pour la 2eme fois .. et pour la 2eme fois, j'étais content de partir au bout d'un jour 😊 - Il y a plein de centre commerciaux immenses comme LKCC .... mais aller a KL pour ça .... - Chinatown se réduit a une peau de chagrin : d'autres villes en Asie ont un vrai quartier chinois, plus grand, plus vivant ... - j'aime bien les tours Petronas, mais c'est vite vu - les anciennes maisons coloniales ont quasiment toute été rasées ... dommage - autre pb : les autoroutes qui coupent la ville ds tous les sens En conclusion , pour moi 2 jours suffisent .. a vous de voir en fc des difféentes réponses
Bon voyage
...assez d'accord : même pour les centres commerciaux, c'est pas la ville ou on fait les meilleures affaires question fringues.... ..j'y suis passé de très nombreuses fois, en route pour l'Indonésie...jamais très enthousiasmé. ..l'avantage : c'est moderne, tout le monde est plutôt serviable et parle anglais.
Merci bien, 🙂 très bonne remarque, car comme tu le soulignes, pour 2, la différence de prix est minime entre le taxi et le KLIA Express. Bon moi qui loge dans le centre historique, près de Chinatown je préfère quand meme le bus jaune à 10MYR de l'aéroport car il nous dépose vraiment pas loin de l'hotel. 😉
Shopping : Mydin ! Je ne suis pas du tout un fan des malls, de ces grandes tours avec des centaines de boutiques (souvent chères), mais pour ce qui est du shopping, le supermarché Mydin est une caverne d'Alibaba! (Mydin est un supermarché populaire qui serait un "mix entre Carrefour et Metro" mais avec des prix asiatiques. il est quasiment en face de la gare routière Puduraya).
Sur 5 ou 6 niveaux, on y trouve tout le matériel scolaire et de bureau (au détail et en gros et de marque; Faber Castel, M&G...) et souvent encore moins cher qu' en Thailande ! On y trouve aussi de la couture, de la vaisselle, des articles pour la maison, pour le sport, pour le voyage, un peu d'habillements, un peu d'électronique... Ce n'est pas forcement ce que l'on acheterait en commençant notre voyage 😉 mais avant notre retour pour la France, si on veut équiper scolairement nos enfants à moindre cout... 😉 ou si on veut quelques articles de maison, de sport, de voyage... Egalement pour dépanner, si on a oublié d'emporter ceci ou cela il y a de bonnes chances de le trouver à Mydin à un prix très concurrentiel.
Quelques infos supplémentaires: Les autoroutes malaisiennes sont excellentes, les bus au départ de KL sont très confortables et les prix modiques (ex: une dizaine d'euro de KL à la frontière Thaïlandaise en énorme bus "VIP" au départ de la gare routière centrale Pudu Raya). Change:il y a tellement d'étrangers à KL, qu'il y a des "Licensed Money changer" en concurrences partout! Ces "Licensed Money Changer" sont beaucoup plus intéressant pour le change du cash que les banques malaisiennes, ou francaises. (Incroyable, la différence entre l'achat et la vente des devises chez les Money Changer, n'est souvent que de 2 à 4 %... ! j'ai meme vu une fois 1% d'écart pour le dollar !). Mais peut etre que maintenant certaines CB (Mastercard ??? ou surtout N26) sont maintenant plus intéressantes avec les retraits aux ATM (DAB), car pour certaines Mastercard, les frais sont limités à 1€ de commission par retrait à l'étranger et pour N26, c'est sans commission !
Une Carte Bleu de retrait N26 est un super tuyau pour les voyageurs, pourquoi ? Le compte et la carte est gratuite (ca ne coute rien donc de l'essayer) Pas de frais sur les retraits a l'étranger, pas de frais sur le taux de change qui est celui de mastercard. Le taux de change est disponible sur le site de mastercard. Alerte en temps réels sur le mobile des dépenses qui sont faites. possibilité de regler soi meme depuis son smartphone l'activation / désactivation des dépenses a l'étranger, possibilité de changer soi meme son code pin en direct (dans le cas ou on doute que celui ci a été vu par qq'un). n26.com/
Shopping : Mydin ! Je ne suis pas du tout un fan des malls, de ces grandes tours avec des centaines de boutiques (souvent chères), mais pour ce qui est du shopping, le supermarché Mydin est une caverne d'Alibaba! (Mydin est un supermarché populaire qui serait un "mix entre Carrefour et Metro" mais avec des prix asiatiques. il est quasiment en face de la gare routière Puduraya).
Sur 5 ou 6 niveaux, on y trouve tout le matériel scolaire et de bureau (au détail et en gros et de marque; Faber Castel, M&G...) et souvent encore moins cher qu' en Thailande ! On y trouve aussi de la couture, de la vaisselle, des articles pour la maison, pour le sport, pour le voyage, un peu d'habillements, un peu d'électronique... Ce n'est pas forcement ce que l'on acheterait en commençant notre voyage 😉 mais avant notre retour pour la France, si on veut équiper scolairement nos enfants à moindre cout... 😉 ou si on veut quelques articles de maison, de sport, de voyage... Egalement pour dépanner, si on a oublié d'emporter ceci ou cela il y a de bonnes chances de le trouver à Mydin à un prix très concurrentiel.
Quelques infos supplémentaires: Les autoroutes malaisiennes sont excellentes, les bus au départ de KL sont très confortables et les prix modiques (ex: une dizaine d'euro de KL à la frontière Thaïlandaise en énorme bus "VIP" au départ de la gare routière centrale Pudu Raya). Change:il y a tellement d'étrangers à KL, qu'il y a des "Licensed Money changer" en concurrences partout! Ces "Licensed Money Changer" sont beaucoup plus intéressant pour le change du cash que les banques malaisiennes, ou francaises. (Incroyable, la différence entre l'achat et la vente des devises chez les Money Changer, n'est souvent que de 2 à 4 %... ! j'ai meme vu une fois 1% d'écart pour le dollar !). Mais peut etre que maintenant certaines CB (Mastercard ??? ou surtout N26) sont maintenant plus intéressantes avec les retraits aux ATM (DAB), car pour certaines Mastercard, les frais sont limités à 1€ de commission par retrait à l'étranger et pour N26, c'est sans commission !
Une Carte Bleu de retrait N26 est un super tuyau pour les voyageurs, pourquoi ? Le compte et la carte est gratuite (ca ne coute rien donc de l'essayer) Pas de frais sur les retraits a l'étranger, pas de frais sur le taux de change qui est celui de mastercard. Le taux de change est disponible sur le site de mastercard. Alerte en temps réels sur le mobile des dépenses qui sont faites. possibilité de regler soi meme depuis son smartphone l'activation / désactivation des dépenses a l'étranger, possibilité de changer soi meme son code pin en direct (dans le cas ou on doute que celui ci a été vu par qq'un). n26.com/
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
Tour Pertonas, Batu Caves, pas mal de parcs également..
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Oui les parcs sont superbes. Nous avons beaucoup aimé le BirdPark (50MR) qui se situe dans le Parc Botanique (accès gratuit). Le Bird Park est immense et on peut voir de nombreux oiseaux en liberté de très près.
Nous sommes actuellement sur KL et je mets un bémol à ma recommandation précédente pour le bus de l'aéroport pour Chinatown. Cela a mis près de 2heures (aux heures de pointes)... 🏴☠️🙁 Eiger a mis 50 minutes en taxi (102Ringgits) mais à 23 heures! Je ne pense pas non plus qu'un taxi soit à recommander aux heures de pointes 😕 Apparemment l'augmentation du trafic routier en centre ville est terrible... Ils ont dû aussi déplacer la gare routière PuduRaya du centre ville à une nouvelle gare routière TBS 10km au Sud, et pourtant il venait juste de refaire entièrement à neuf l'ancienne gare Pudu Raya en 2011. Aussi je reformule mes recommandations pour "Comment aller à Chinatown de l'aéroport":
Comment REJONDRE LE CENTRE (Chinatown/ Pasar Seni) DEPUIS L'AÉROPORT KLIA/KLIA2 1. Par le train "KLIA EXPRES": C'est l'option la plus rapide, surtout aux heures de pointes, mais vous devrez prendre ensuite un autre transport en gare de "KL Sentral", le terminus du “KLIA Expres” ou “KLIA transit”. Trains en partance des aéroports KLIA et KLIA2; prendre “KLIA Espres” (direct) ou “KLIA transit” (3 stops) jusqu'au terminus la station “KL Sentral” en 28 min ou 34 minutes pour 55 MR. Puis, de "KL Sentral", on peut _ soit prendre le métro aérien LRT (ligne 5) (platforme1) et descendre à la station suivante "Pasar Seni" . Beaucoup de GH sont très proches (GH BirdNest 2...). Meme si la gare “KL Sentral” est immense, la correspondance du KLIA au LRT est rapide, mais la queue aux automates des billets peut être longue (Ne pas confondre le LRT avec le KTM Komuter). On peut aussi prendre le KTM Komuter (ligne 1 direction Tanjung Malim ou ligne 2 direction Batu Cave) et descendre à la station suivante “Kuala Lumpur”. On rejoint alors ensuite la station “Pasar Seni” puis Chinatown par un long pont piéton enjambant les lignes de trains. (voir le plan des lignes de “metro/train”) _ soit prendre un taxi meter, (s'adresser au comptoir de la gare “KL Sentral”, prix fixe à 9MR). Le taxi peut etre utile si l'hotel est loin d'une station du LRT ou du Komuter.

Recommandation Google itinéraire Aéroport-- Pasar Seni: Mais contrairement au indication de google itinéraire (ci dessous), l'option la plus rapide pour aller à la GH Birdnest 2 est le LRT pas le KMuter (ou KTM Komuter) https://www.google.com/maps/dir/KL+International+Airport+Sepang+Selangor+Malaisie/Birdnest+Guesthouse, ++64, ++Jalan+Hang+Kasturi, ++City+Centre, ++50050+Kuala+Lumpur, ++Wilayah+Persekutuan+Kuala+Lumpur, ++Malaisie/@2.9244457,101.5446849,10.5z/am=t/data=!4m17!4m16!1m5!1m1!1s0x31cdbf80d4a21211:0x982778bb67b5fa0b!2m2!1d101.7046989!2d2.7540214!1m5!1m1!1s0x31cc49d02c75ef2d:0x83011f9fb925a19a!2m2!1d101.695805!2d3.14377!2m2!7e2!8j1480249800!3e3
2; Par le Bus: C'est le plus simple et aussi le moins cher (RM 10) si notre destination finale est Chinatown ou Pasar Seni. Mais cela peut etre très long car il y a de plus en plus d'embouteillage à KL (1h15 à 2h) je déconseille cette option aux heures de pointes : Prendre le bus jaune “aérobus”. Prendre le bus STAR DE NAVETTE (10 RM de KLIA) et vous serez déposés à en face de la station Pudaraya. Là vous etes à 5 ou 10 minutes maxi à pied de votre hotel. Le taxi est inutile ! car il ne reste plus que 500 à 600m à pied pour rejoindre BirdNest2, (et la plupart des GH sont à 100/600 m du Terminus du bus jaune pour China Town). L'achat des billets à l'aéroport est le comptoir jaune, complètement à gauche, quand on arrive au quai des bus pour Chinatown. Une autre compagnie de bus (que les bus jaunes) proposent aussi Chinatown, comptoir des billets juste à coté de la précédente, mais ces bus ont pour terminus KL Sentral, puis un minibus... et c'est beaucoup plus long.
Attention pur le retour à l'aéroport: Le bus met plus longtemps pour revenir de Chinatown a l'aeroport que le trajet inverse (et c'est 12MR au lieu de 10) car il fait un détour... donc prévoir au moins 2h pour le retour a l'aéroport de Chinatown.
SkyBus Air Asia: Après l'avoir essayer je ne suis pas convaincu de l'utilité du Skybus car celui ci ne va pas jusqu'à Chinatown, mais son terminus est "KL Sentral" ce qui oblige à prendre ensuite un autre transport pour aller à Chinatown. Si on doit passer par "KL Sentral" autant utiliser le train du KLIA.
Oui les parcs sont superbes. Nous avons beaucoup aimé le BirdPark (50MR) qui se situe dans le Parc Botanique (accès gratuit). Le Bird Park est immense et on peut voir de nombreux oiseaux en liberté de très près.
Nous sommes actuellement sur KL et je mets un bémol à ma recommandation précédente pour le bus de l'aéroport pour Chinatown. Cela a mis près de 2heures (aux heures de pointes)... 🏴☠️🙁 Eiger a mis 50 minutes en taxi (102Ringgits) mais à 23 heures! Je ne pense pas non plus qu'un taxi soit à recommander aux heures de pointes 😕 Apparemment l'augmentation du trafic routier en centre ville est terrible... Ils ont dû aussi déplacer la gare routière PuduRaya du centre ville à une nouvelle gare routière TBS 10km au Sud, et pourtant il venait juste de refaire entièrement à neuf l'ancienne gare Pudu Raya en 2011. Aussi je reformule mes recommandations pour "Comment aller à Chinatown de l'aéroport":
Comment REJONDRE LE CENTRE (Chinatown/ Pasar Seni) DEPUIS L'AÉROPORT KLIA/KLIA2 1. Par le train "KLIA EXPRES": C'est l'option la plus rapide, surtout aux heures de pointes, mais vous devrez prendre ensuite un autre transport en gare de "KL Sentral", le terminus du “KLIA Expres” ou “KLIA transit”. Trains en partance des aéroports KLIA et KLIA2; prendre “KLIA Espres” (direct) ou “KLIA transit” (3 stops) jusqu'au terminus la station “KL Sentral” en 28 min ou 34 minutes pour 55 MR. Puis, de "KL Sentral", on peut _ soit prendre le métro aérien LRT (ligne 5) (platforme1) et descendre à la station suivante "Pasar Seni" . Beaucoup de GH sont très proches (GH BirdNest 2...). Meme si la gare “KL Sentral” est immense, la correspondance du KLIA au LRT est rapide, mais la queue aux automates des billets peut être longue (Ne pas confondre le LRT avec le KTM Komuter). On peut aussi prendre le KTM Komuter (ligne 1 direction Tanjung Malim ou ligne 2 direction Batu Cave) et descendre à la station suivante “Kuala Lumpur”. On rejoint alors ensuite la station “Pasar Seni” puis Chinatown par un long pont piéton enjambant les lignes de trains. (voir le plan des lignes de “metro/train”) _ soit prendre un taxi meter, (s'adresser au comptoir de la gare “KL Sentral”, prix fixe à 9MR). Le taxi peut etre utile si l'hotel est loin d'une station du LRT ou du Komuter.

Recommandation Google itinéraire Aéroport-- Pasar Seni: Mais contrairement au indication de google itinéraire (ci dessous), l'option la plus rapide pour aller à la GH Birdnest 2 est le LRT pas le KMuter (ou KTM Komuter) https://www.google.com/maps/dir/KL+International+Airport+Sepang+Selangor+Malaisie/Birdnest+Guesthouse, ++64, ++Jalan+Hang+Kasturi, ++City+Centre, ++50050+Kuala+Lumpur, ++Wilayah+Persekutuan+Kuala+Lumpur, ++Malaisie/@2.9244457,101.5446849,10.5z/am=t/data=!4m17!4m16!1m5!1m1!1s0x31cdbf80d4a21211:0x982778bb67b5fa0b!2m2!1d101.7046989!2d2.7540214!1m5!1m1!1s0x31cc49d02c75ef2d:0x83011f9fb925a19a!2m2!1d101.695805!2d3.14377!2m2!7e2!8j1480249800!3e3
2; Par le Bus: C'est le plus simple et aussi le moins cher (RM 10) si notre destination finale est Chinatown ou Pasar Seni. Mais cela peut etre très long car il y a de plus en plus d'embouteillage à KL (1h15 à 2h) je déconseille cette option aux heures de pointes : Prendre le bus jaune “aérobus”. Prendre le bus STAR DE NAVETTE (10 RM de KLIA) et vous serez déposés à en face de la station Pudaraya. Là vous etes à 5 ou 10 minutes maxi à pied de votre hotel. Le taxi est inutile ! car il ne reste plus que 500 à 600m à pied pour rejoindre BirdNest2, (et la plupart des GH sont à 100/600 m du Terminus du bus jaune pour China Town). L'achat des billets à l'aéroport est le comptoir jaune, complètement à gauche, quand on arrive au quai des bus pour Chinatown. Une autre compagnie de bus (que les bus jaunes) proposent aussi Chinatown, comptoir des billets juste à coté de la précédente, mais ces bus ont pour terminus KL Sentral, puis un minibus... et c'est beaucoup plus long.
Attention pur le retour à l'aéroport: Le bus met plus longtemps pour revenir de Chinatown a l'aeroport que le trajet inverse (et c'est 12MR au lieu de 10) car il fait un détour... donc prévoir au moins 2h pour le retour a l'aéroport de Chinatown.
SkyBus Air Asia: Après l'avoir essayer je ne suis pas convaincu de l'utilité du Skybus car celui ci ne va pas jusqu'à Chinatown, mais son terminus est "KL Sentral" ce qui oblige à prendre ensuite un autre transport pour aller à Chinatown. Si on doit passer par "KL Sentral" autant utiliser le train du KLIA.
“Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn’t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbour. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.” (M. Twain)
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We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
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Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
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Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
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After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral. Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo). Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok: * Orangutan Center * Malayan Sun Bear Center * Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan. Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari. Jungle walk. Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari. Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port. Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar 5 full days. * Snorkeling * Hiking * Turtle watching * Wild beaches * Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland. Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Days 15 and 16: Taman Negara.
Day 17: Return to Kuala Lumpur.
Day 18: Visit the Petronas Towers or Batu Caves
Day 19: Free day.
Day 20: Return flight.
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Baptiste
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I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights. Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above. Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
- Battambang (round trip) - Siem Reap / Angkor - Kratie - Kampong Cham - Phnom Penh - Kampot (round trip)
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
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We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
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Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
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Hi there,
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you? If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
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We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations: We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights: The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1: We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2: This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3: With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4: Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings. We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops. In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5: Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6: This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8: Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10: On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12: We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines. Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment. We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15: From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP). We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning. We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise. Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16: We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town. It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view. We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise. In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911. On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city. We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17: Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning. Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in. The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances: In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary: Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional. Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
A few practical tips: Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred. PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront). Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
Hi everyone,
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences!
Hi everyone, I’m looking to do a 15-day Muay Thai training course. Any great places to recommend? Thanks
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight) · Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok) · Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x") · Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x") · Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok) · Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok) · Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
Hi,
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
To save time, we sometimes take long-distance taxis for certain trips in Asia.
We're considering doing the PP - Sen Monorom route by private taxi. Does anyone have an idea of the price for such a distance (380 km)?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Thanks in advance for your feedback.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Hello,
We’re a couple looking for a driver for 10 days to explore Northern Vietnam in April.
Best regards,
Hi there,
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling. For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees? We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo. Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Thanks!
Hi! I’m planning a 15-day trip to Malaysia. The idea is to visit KL for 2 or 3 days, then Borneo, and I’m wondering what to do with the rest of the time. I’d like to finish with the Perhentian Islands... What do you think? Any tips or advice would be great—I’d really appreciate it!
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.
Hi fellow travelers,
First trip to Vietnam.
We’ll be arriving in Ho Chi Minh City during Tet.
Is it complicated to find accommodation and get around during this period?
Any tips would be welcome.
Thanks for your replies.
Hey everyone,
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Silly question—backpack or hard-shell suitcase for the Sepilok, Kinabatangan, Tioman, KL trip? I’m struggling to fit all my son’s and my stuff into the 70L backpack... and I’m thinking a suitcase would be easier, but I’m not sure if it’ll work for getting around.
Thanks! 🙂
Hi there,
I didn’t plan to return to Thailand this year, but my health conditions mean it’ll be the best place for me to stay between two trips to India. The tourism setup there is so well-organized that it’s the most "comfortable" country for a short visit. Thailand feels too sanitized for my taste, and there’s too much religion, Buddha, and the King, but it’s still the best option given how my health has been evolving. I’d considered two weeks in ThaTon for hiking, but I got too sick from the burn-offs during my trips to the mountains around Chiang Rai. So I’m not sure where to go this year. Definitely not the sea, touristy spots, or the mountains with burn-offs...
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.
Thanks, friends, if you’ve got any suggestions.





