Voyage InterRail en Europe centrale: quel sac à dos choisir
by Clarisse341
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous (tes),
je par cet été avec interrail en Europe centrale (Autriche, République-Tchèque et Slovénie)
pour une durée de 15 jours .
Nous aurons normalement le même logement pendant au moins 2 nuits consécutives ( et pourrons donc posez nos affaires) mais durant les jours de trajet où nous arriverons tôt dans les villes nous devrons porter nos affaires durant toutes la journée.
Etant une totale novice dans le milieu je m'en remet à vous , quel sac choisir ?
40L,50L,60L ? Et de quelle marque ?
Sachant que lorsque nous aurons l'occasion de posez nos affaires quelques part nous prendrons un autre sac plus petit pour les randonnées journalières.
Dans l'attente de tous vos conseils,
Merci beaucoup🙂.
30 ou 40 litres max. Déjà parce qu'en été, on voyage plus léger qu'en hiver et qu'en fait, plus on a de la place dans le sac, plus on a tendance à emporter de vêtements. Retiens surtout que pour rester confortable, un sac à dos ne doit pas excéder 10 à grand max 15% de ton poids corporel.
Petits conseils en vrac : - Toujours acheter un sac foncé parce que les soutes d'avion ou de bus sont juste dégueu 😕 - On n'emporte jamais pour 15 jours de fringues, on prend pour 5 à 8 jours et on s'octroie une ou deux soirée(s) lessive. Ne pas oublier le sac à linge pour 1) séparer le propre du sale 2) avec anses pour qu'il soit facile à trimbaler jusqu'au lavoir ; - On ne bourre pas son sac dès le départ sinon on n'a plus de place pour les souvenirs ; - On n'emporte pas de "au cas où...", ni 4 paires de chaussures, ni 5 pulls. C'est utile à rappeler surtout aux coquettes 😛 ; - On roule ses vêtements parce que ça les froisse moins que si on les plie. On met le plus lourd en dessous et la trousse de toilette au dessus. Un sac est bien équilibré lorsqu'il tient debout tout seul ;
Pense à investir dans : - une serviette microfibre qui ne prend pas de place (et qu'il faut surtout laisser sécher avant de la ranger sinon ça pue) ; - des cosmétiques solides qui prennent moins de place et sont de fait moins lourds à balader (et surtout plus écologiques) ; - deux trousses : une pour y ranger la paire de tongs indispensable dans les hostels ou une paire de chaussures légère, et une pour les sous-vêtements (à l'abri des regards indiscrets et facile à trouver sans tout défaire et refaire) ; - une cape de pluie 1) ça ne prends pas de place au quotidien et ça t'évite de prendre une veste ou un coupe vent 2) que tu mets par dessus ton sac à dos parce que souvent, ils ne sont imperméables ; - si nécessaire, un mousqueton bien solide pour attacher tes chaussures de rando à ton sac (c'est à ça que servent les languettes à l'arrière des chaussures).
Côté marque, c'est à toi de voir combien tu veux investir. Décathlon propose des sacs très corrects pour pas trop cher. En fonction de ta santé ou de ta morphologie, il faudra peut-être aller voir du côté des grandes marques (Millet, Osprey, Deuter, ...) dans un magasin un peu plus pro.
J'ai 4 backpack de 20, 30, 40 et 80 litres. Pour des trips itinérants en été, j'utilise le 40 litres. C'est un Quechua qui m'a coûté environ 40 euros il y a 5 ans. Bretelles et ceinture rembourrées, ouvertures par le haut et par le bas, poches sur les côtés et sur le capuchon, poche filet sur l'avant et poche plate type PC dans le dos. Chargé il est à max 6-7 kilos, mais il ne passe pas en cabine. Je porte mon sac à dos quotidien (10 litres) avec mon matériel photo sur l'avant quand j'ai mon backpack sur le dos.
Je ne sais pas quel type de logement tu as choisi, mais sache qu'en hôtel et hostel, tu peux laisser ton sac à la réception bien avant l'heure du check-in. Dans ce cas, ne pas oublier de prendre un cadenas solide, et à code afin de ne pas perdre les clefs. Si tu as opté pour AirBnB, je confirme que plus petit sera ton backpack, plus léger et plus confortable il sera. Je te conseille tout de même de faire un musée entre ton arrivée et la remise des clefs, ça te permettra de le laisser au vestiaire 😇
N'hésite pas si tu as besoin d'éclaircissements 😉
Petits conseils en vrac : - Toujours acheter un sac foncé parce que les soutes d'avion ou de bus sont juste dégueu 😕 - On n'emporte jamais pour 15 jours de fringues, on prend pour 5 à 8 jours et on s'octroie une ou deux soirée(s) lessive. Ne pas oublier le sac à linge pour 1) séparer le propre du sale 2) avec anses pour qu'il soit facile à trimbaler jusqu'au lavoir ; - On ne bourre pas son sac dès le départ sinon on n'a plus de place pour les souvenirs ; - On n'emporte pas de "au cas où...", ni 4 paires de chaussures, ni 5 pulls. C'est utile à rappeler surtout aux coquettes 😛 ; - On roule ses vêtements parce que ça les froisse moins que si on les plie. On met le plus lourd en dessous et la trousse de toilette au dessus. Un sac est bien équilibré lorsqu'il tient debout tout seul ;
Pense à investir dans : - une serviette microfibre qui ne prend pas de place (et qu'il faut surtout laisser sécher avant de la ranger sinon ça pue) ; - des cosmétiques solides qui prennent moins de place et sont de fait moins lourds à balader (et surtout plus écologiques) ; - deux trousses : une pour y ranger la paire de tongs indispensable dans les hostels ou une paire de chaussures légère, et une pour les sous-vêtements (à l'abri des regards indiscrets et facile à trouver sans tout défaire et refaire) ; - une cape de pluie 1) ça ne prends pas de place au quotidien et ça t'évite de prendre une veste ou un coupe vent 2) que tu mets par dessus ton sac à dos parce que souvent, ils ne sont imperméables ; - si nécessaire, un mousqueton bien solide pour attacher tes chaussures de rando à ton sac (c'est à ça que servent les languettes à l'arrière des chaussures).
Côté marque, c'est à toi de voir combien tu veux investir. Décathlon propose des sacs très corrects pour pas trop cher. En fonction de ta santé ou de ta morphologie, il faudra peut-être aller voir du côté des grandes marques (Millet, Osprey, Deuter, ...) dans un magasin un peu plus pro.
J'ai 4 backpack de 20, 30, 40 et 80 litres. Pour des trips itinérants en été, j'utilise le 40 litres. C'est un Quechua qui m'a coûté environ 40 euros il y a 5 ans. Bretelles et ceinture rembourrées, ouvertures par le haut et par le bas, poches sur les côtés et sur le capuchon, poche filet sur l'avant et poche plate type PC dans le dos. Chargé il est à max 6-7 kilos, mais il ne passe pas en cabine. Je porte mon sac à dos quotidien (10 litres) avec mon matériel photo sur l'avant quand j'ai mon backpack sur le dos.
Je ne sais pas quel type de logement tu as choisi, mais sache qu'en hôtel et hostel, tu peux laisser ton sac à la réception bien avant l'heure du check-in. Dans ce cas, ne pas oublier de prendre un cadenas solide, et à code afin de ne pas perdre les clefs. Si tu as opté pour AirBnB, je confirme que plus petit sera ton backpack, plus léger et plus confortable il sera. Je te conseille tout de même de faire un musée entre ton arrivée et la remise des clefs, ça te permettra de le laisser au vestiaire 😇
N'hésite pas si tu as besoin d'éclaircissements 😉
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Bonjour Clarisse,
Je n'ajouterais pas grand-chose aux infos très détaillées de Rhaya. Juste 2 petits trucs supplémentaires.
D'une part, pour avoir arpenté l'Europe dans presque tous les sens avec Interrail (il y a "quelques" années déjà), nous laissions nos sacs à dos dans les consignes des gares chaque fois que nous faisions des escales d'une journée. Sans rien de valeur à l'intérieur bien sûr. Ca nous permettait de visiter légers.
D'autre part, tu peux envisager d'investir par exemple dans des T-shirts Icebreaker de qualité, en mérinos (la laine de ce mouton néo-zélandais aux propriétés uniques) : ils peuvent être utilisés plusieurs fois sans la moindre odeur ni la moindre sensation de sale au toucher. Au début je n'y croyais pas mais c'est vraiment bluffant, maintenant je n'achète presque plus que ça.
Pour la petite histoire, n'y croyant pas du tout, j'avais fait le test suivant : essayer de remettre le T-shirt le lendemain d'un gros footing 🤪 Pas très ragoûtant j'avoue, mais résultat hallucinant : j'avais vraiment l'impression de porter du neuf... et mon entourage aussi 😎
Si tu as des doutes, tu peux faire le test en n'en achetant qu'un seul pour te faire ta propre idée. En plus on en trouve qui sont plutôt stylés... Au final, tu peux n'en emporter que 3 au lieu de 5 ou 6, c'est toujours ça de gagné dans le sac...
Je n'ajouterais pas grand-chose aux infos très détaillées de Rhaya. Juste 2 petits trucs supplémentaires.
D'une part, pour avoir arpenté l'Europe dans presque tous les sens avec Interrail (il y a "quelques" années déjà), nous laissions nos sacs à dos dans les consignes des gares chaque fois que nous faisions des escales d'une journée. Sans rien de valeur à l'intérieur bien sûr. Ca nous permettait de visiter légers.
D'autre part, tu peux envisager d'investir par exemple dans des T-shirts Icebreaker de qualité, en mérinos (la laine de ce mouton néo-zélandais aux propriétés uniques) : ils peuvent être utilisés plusieurs fois sans la moindre odeur ni la moindre sensation de sale au toucher. Au début je n'y croyais pas mais c'est vraiment bluffant, maintenant je n'achète presque plus que ça.
Pour la petite histoire, n'y croyant pas du tout, j'avais fait le test suivant : essayer de remettre le T-shirt le lendemain d'un gros footing 🤪 Pas très ragoûtant j'avoue, mais résultat hallucinant : j'avais vraiment l'impression de porter du neuf... et mon entourage aussi 😎
Si tu as des doutes, tu peux faire le test en n'en achetant qu'un seul pour te faire ta propre idée. En plus on en trouve qui sont plutôt stylés... Au final, tu peux n'en emporter que 3 au lieu de 5 ou 6, c'est toujours ça de gagné dans le sac...
Le blog voyages : http://derrierelhorizon.fr/accueil/
Bonjour Rhaya , merci beaucoup de cette réponse très détaillée et qui a du te prendre un certains temps de rédaction🙂elle nous a été super utile 😉
Merci beaucoup 😊, super idée ces tee-shirts je vais me renseigner 😉
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That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient). But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this? We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help, and have a great Sunday!
Hi there,
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Thanks
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us. I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com. Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend? Are the tickets changeable?
Thanks for your help!
Nicole
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)
Thanks in advance! 😊
Thanks in advance! 😊
Hi
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Can anyone tell me how to book train tickets online? We're planning to travel from HANOI to HO CHI MINH CITY by train, making several stops along the way. I'd also like to find the schedules and the stations where the trains stop.
There are four of us, and we've already planned stops in HANOI / DONG HOI / HUE.
Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!
Mounette74
Hi everyone,
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)







