Bonjour,

Je pars dans 10 jours en Afrique du sud en solo (pas de voyagiste) et les infos sont tellement diverses et variées quant aux vaccinations et traitement anti palu. Je passerai par le Parc Kruger, Kwazulu Natal, le Swaziland, le Drakensberg, et nous resterons 16 jours sur place.

J'ai lu que la fièvre jaune n'est pas obligatoire pour l'AFS. Recommandé hépatite A. Typhoïde seulement pour les personnes restant longtemps dans le pays et dans des situations précaires. Pour le reste, ce sera spray anti-moustiques !

Pour le palu, faut-il ou non prendre un traitement type Malarone ?

Merci de vos retours !

Bonjour les VFistes australs,

Suite à la modification de notre vol retour par la compagnie Iberia nous nous retrouvons à Johannesbourg pour 1 nuit et 1 journée (décollage à 19h50 le lendemain).

Comme d'habitude j'ai le plus grand mal à organiser la visite des villes et je ne sais ni où dormir ni comment organiser notre journée.

Pour dormir nous aimerions trouver un lodge/guest house sympa dans un quartier safe. J'ai noté le quartier de Melville mais je ne suis pas particulièrement emballé par les hébergements. Avez vous des idées ?

On pensait visiter le musée de l'Apartheid et en fouillant sur google j'ai eu l'impression qu'on pouvait le combiner avec la visite en bus de Soweto. Plusieurs compagnie propose ce tour (Soweto + Musée) pour une durée d'environ 5h. Avez vous déjà testé ces tours ? 🙂

Merci pour vos retours !

Bonjour c'est encore moi 😏

Je suis en train de me creuser le cerveau pour savoir si je prend ou non un traitement contre le palu (ou la malaria?) Nous comptons rester 3/4 jour au parc Kruger, et je sais que c'est une zone à risque. De plus nous partons en février, soit en été là-bas ce qui n'arrange pas les choses!! Bien entendu, j'ajoute que ma peau, c'est du miel pour les moustiques!

Bon, très bien.

MAIS, (parce qu'il y a toujours un "mais") lorsque j'ai lu les effets secondaires de ces médicaments, j'ai vraiment pris peur!! Exemple : " les traitements anti-paludéens présentent des contre-indications, et peuvent provoquer des effets secondaires indésirables. Le Lariam, par exemple, pourra avoir tendance à vous déprimer. De nombreuses personnes se plaignent également de troubles intestinaux. Les médecins reconnaissent que tous les médicaments prescrits, à base de quinine, ont des effets secondaires lourds." " Si vous prenez un traitement préventif il va camoufler le palu, et celui ci peut réapparaitre jusqu'à 2 mois plus tard." "L'efficacité n'est pas sûre à 100%"

Certains disent qu'ils s'en sont très bien tirés sans traitement, qu'il faut simplement être vigilent et avoir les bon réflexes. D'autres que c'est trop dangereux et qu'il faut prendre le traitement avant....

I'm lost!

Et vous, vous en pensez quoi?

Bonjour, nous partons dans 15 jours en AFS, avec 4 nuits du 12 au 16 août à Kruger. Le reste du voyage sera sur Le Cap.

Nous sommes deux adultes et deux enfants de 10 et 7 ans. Doit-on se protéger contre le paludisme ? Quel est le matériel minimum à emmener au parc ?

Merci pour vos réponses avisées !😏

Bonjour à tous,

je suis en train de "préparer" mon séjour en Afrique du Sud et j'aurai quelques petites questions qui viennent en vrac: je souhaite louer une voiture mais il existe des différences sur l'âge minimal en fonction des sources (ambassade, office de tourisme...): à partir de 23, d'autres indiquent 24 et d'autres 25 ans. J'ai 24 ans, donc je me trouve à cette limite. Je serai vraiment embêté pour ce périple si je ne peux pas louer de voitures. Quelque pourrait'il me renseigner? C'est une loi nationale ou est-ce que ça dépend des agences de location? du coup, si certains d'entre vous ont eu recours à une agence de location et que vous en êtiez satisfait, pouvez-vous m'indiquer son nom je souhaite grimper au sommet de la mythique Table mountain. Une connaissance me l'a vivement recommandé mais m'a dit qu'il fallait être au moins 3 pour certains passages sur le sentier (d'après elle, il y a des panneaux qui indiquent ceci le long de la route; de plus, il semble que certains passages soient vraiment chauds si on est seul). Savez-vous si certaines voies accès ne nécessitent pas d'être 3 (hormis via le téléphérique bien évidemment) je vais certainement effectuer un "wilderness trail (= 3 jours et nuits à pieds avec un ranger; très cher mais l'expérience me tente vraiment) au Kruger, mais il y a plusieurs secteurs possibles. Etant donné le tarif, je préfère ne pas me planter. D'après vous et en fonction de vos expériences, , quel est le meilleur secteur pour ces trails dans cette liste (sachant que je resterai 2 jours de plus pour parcourir la brousse en voiture): Berg-en-Dal rest camp; Skukuza camp; Napi = midway between Skukuza and Pretoriuskop; Nyalaland = on the bank of the Madzaringwe Stream north of Punda Maria, near the Luvuvhu River; Olifants = on the southern bank of the Olifants River, west of the Olifants / Letaba confluence; Sweni Wilderness Trail . Où les paysages sont ils les plus beaux? Où observe t'on le plus d'animaux? l'Afrique du Sud est montré du doigt pour l'insécurité. J'ai eu des témoignages vraiment rassurants à ce niveau donc je ne me fais pas trop de souci. Cependant, il semble que de nombreux vols aient lieu dans les hôtels. Est-ce vrai? Y a t'il des adresses à éviter, à Durban notamment et Capetown? pour les vaccins de maladies dites "tropicales" (palu...), comment faut il procéder? Auprès de son médecin traitant ou faut il passer par un labo spécialisé?

Merci pour vos nombreuses réponses

Inside South Africa

The Burst Hose. The passenger is so impatient to arrive that the coachman whips a horse that barely tolerates the mistreatment. I can tell she’s gearing up for a kick, and suddenly, at full gallop, she stops responding. If I press the spur, she cuts out but accepts a half-pressed pedal. She pulled this stunt last year, right in the middle of the Kalahari Desert, and I can guess the trick: she blew a hose! An hour at a slow trot brings us to a Ford garage. A workshop manager, as sullen as he is efficient, has the necessary parts removed to reach the hose, then announces he doesn’t have the spare part and will need a week to get it. I suggest taking advantage of the access to make a temporary repair on the tear, but he refuses, arguing the pressure is so high that the patch would give way immediately—"It’s not a Testarossa, after all!" After reassembly, he refuses to charge us anything and advises us to head to the next town, 200 kilometers away—off we go for another four hours. Semi-trailers overtake us without mercy; I’m reminded of *Duel*. At the Land Rover dealership, we learn the part will take two working days to arrive, and it’s Thursday. I decide to have the hose delivered to the house without wheels—I’ll change it myself. Five hours later, climbing the pass in first gear, we reach the object of her desires. * Hide and Seek In Brittany, my neighbor is a taciturn, touchy fisherman. He’s anchored his old boat in the middle of the estuary that separates two departments and uses it as a storage space. It’s a jumble of nets, buoys, and traps. The old wooden vessel is falling apart, and the hull’s paint is nothing but a distant memory—so much so that the Maritime Affairs Directorate of his department orders him to remove it or repaint it. Asterix also runs a restaurant on the harbor, where he treats customers to his catch. One Sunday afternoon, we see him loading cooks, servers, and dishwashers armed with rollers, brushes, and paint cans into dinghies. Off they go for two hours of slapdash painting and laughter. Once the starboard side is done, everyone returns to prepare for the evening service. The port side will wait until the Maritime Affairs Directorate from the other department reacts. This story came back to me when I got home: the side visible from the road had been repainted, but the other side was left as is. * The Blonde, the Red, the White, and the Black Many workers are paid at the end of each week, but alcohol sales for takeaway are banned on Saturdays and Sundays. So, on Friday nights, the bars are packed, and liquor stores never empty—of people who are already full. Their limited means reduce them to cheap, harsh wines or bland beers. Yet, they still end up wasted.

* Seven In mainland France, you can easily raise seven sheep per hectare. In the Great Karoo, it takes seven hectares of sparse but tasty vegetation to feed just one sheep. Not to mention the energy spent moving around. Add to that the fact that a French sheep produces about one and a half lambs per year, while here, between droughts and jackals, it’s closer to 0.7, and you’ll understand why, with a 7,000-hectare farm—the local basic unit—a South African farmer’s income barely exceeds that of a farm a hundred times smaller in Brittany. This weekend, the annual agricultural show is taking place at the fairgrounds. Some come from far away, so a procession of pickups, trailers, and trucks loaded with sheep makes its way up the main street: we’re definitely in the Karoo. I expected a competition of lean, wiry ascetics, able to pass on traits useful to the environment, but I suspect these bodybuilder show animals don’t just graze on the bush and are doped with alfalfa. Besides, I caught a dealer red-handed with a bag of pellets. * They’re Not Dolls Ken is a professional hunting guide, working independently. When it’s not hunting season, he goes fishing for clients, mainly in the United States. He says Trump’s election—whom he slightly resembles, though younger—would be good for his business, but he doesn’t like Trump, nor, it seems, his clients much. He wanted to be a farmer, but in the post-apartheid context, taking over a farm was a gamble. His wife, who’s more beautiful than Barbie and Melania, silently agrees. * Neighbors That’s the problem with women: their *it girl* side. Within a year of her moving in, we got two new neighbors. One on the other side of the track, the other half an hour away (here, that’s *next door*). One only travels at the controls of his black helicopter, the other aboard his private Boeing 737. The first is a very wealthy farmer from the northeast of the country who’s expanding into the Karoo. He just bought two non-contiguous farms of 6,000 hectares each. I still don’t know what the owner of the farm in between is thinking. The newcomer plans to create a wildlife reserve for breeding purposes; our future neighbors will be giraffes, rhinos, and antelopes, including rare species like the Sable. They say he’s a man in a hurry, determined: when the municipality dragged its feet on his request to refurbish the public track that serves as our border, he just went ahead and did it himself. It was a historic farm, crossed by paths leading to other farms, home to a pond full of birds where water from the mountain ends up after the villagers have taken their share. That’s where the golf course I was about to become the 29th member of was located. Now, it’s all closed off, fenced, and lined with monumental gates. The Wild West in the Western Cape. Is it because his name ends in ‘-ski’ that rumors link him to Slavic mafias and advise against crossing him? The same rumors say he’s involved in the uranium market—well, there’s uranium in the Karoo’s subsoil. The second neighbor is a Saudi prince who just bought a modestly sized farm—3,500 hectares—but don’t think he’s a minor prince. He paid four and a half times the market price to get it! The farm had been in the same family for two centuries, and the owners refused to even consider selling. The prince’s agent—money, in this case, black gold—kept coming back every week despite repeated refusals, finally saying his client wanted this farm at any price. A price they were asked to set. And that’s how you sell your ancestors’ graves. There are plenty of huge farms for sale here, but the prince was looking for a property where he wouldn’t see any roads, tracks, or other houses or farms. He’ll come a few days a year to hunt. However, he’s annoyed: the runway at the nearest airport, two hours away, isn’t long enough for his private jet, so he’ll have to land in Cape Town, like me, and endure nearly two hours by helicopter. That’s how it goes in South Africa. I’d be curious to know what Julius Malema, leader of the EFF (Economic Freedom Fighters), who advocates the Zimbabwean model of land redistribution, thinks about it.

* Biko The autobiography of a journalist and politician of European descent, South African, is published this week. In 1977, this rookie got her editor’s permission to investigate the death in detention of black leader Steve Biko. The apartheid regime’s political police claimed he had died from a hunger strike. The bold young woman discovered that the medical examiners reported a slightly overweight corpse, and later, it was revealed that Biko had died from abuse, if not torture. Under pressure after publishing her investigation, Helen Zille, disillusioned, gave up journalism and turned to politics. She is one of the white South Africans who fought against apartheid, and it’s reassuring that some people have a conscience that transcends class or race. *

You Have the Watches... …we have the time. Anyone who’s worked with Africans knows this response they occasionally throw at us. Willem, the inconsistent gardener, couldn’t stand the observation: running around the place at top speed, even with a pitchfork over his shoulder, wasn’t getting the job done. So Jan replaced him. We share the same first name—no doubt we’ll accomplish great things. He’s known to be reliable, meaning he shows up for work, and he only speaks Afrikaans. We communicate like at the circus: thumbs up, thumbs down. Jan has the build of a bushman but the bone structure and features of a mixed-race person—multiple mixes. He’s a sprite, always moving, sometimes without purpose or destination (the journey is the path). I lose sight of him—it’s not exactly a virgin forest—and he reappears elsewhere, busy. Jan doesn’t understand wasted water—he must think the same of us trying to cultivate the desert. He’s a gardener like I’m a violinist, virtuosos of playback. After a very light lunch, he lies down on the ground in the shadow of the stables and falls asleep. If his arrival time in the morning is variable, it’s never before the agreed hour, but his departure time is unchanging: it’s 3 PM, no matter what. No point trying to fool him; he can count and shows me the fancy watch eating up his thin wrist. * Colours Veldrift, Oyster Catcher, Lobster Red, Namib, Dune, Lion's Den, Kalahari, Bush Fire, Karoo Dawn, Cape Fynbos, Safari Trail, African Pan, Bushveld Plains, African Queen, Karoo Drift. A bestiary? A herbarium? No, the colors offered by the country’s top paint manufacturer. All the shades of the continent from an armchair. * Pets She loves three mastiffs, a meter tall at the withers. Is it for their beauty? Their breed? Their deterrent power, because knowing these beasts exist, no one would dare enter her property without an invitation? A bit of all that, probably. She won’t say. She loves pets but likes other people’s less, especially the poor ones. So, she actively participates in the campaign to sterilize dogs and cats in the neighboring township. Just think, the poor things can’t afford to feed or care for them, meaning they can’t ensure them a decent life. She and others justify the pets section of the local mini-supermarket. Whether your pet is a puppy, adult, or mature, whether it likes fish or prefers beef (no one thought of a dog-based reference from the township?), you’ll find your happiness. While you order, many locals will only have access to the parking lot to beg. * Democracy in Africa

What would Tocqueville say about Democracy in America this fall? After the father, we had the son; after the husband, and by default, we might get the wife. No one else, really? Let’s not talk about France and its current vaudeville. A Ivorian academic believes African peoples aren’t ready for "Western-style" democracy (caricatured as a free T-shirt buying a vote). Does he know the same is true elsewhere, where many voters vote not for a vision, a project, or convictions, but to protect their own interests? Here in South Africa, national elections were held recently, confirming the ANC’s decline in favor of the Democratic Alliance (DA). Historically (since the end of apartheid) seen as the party of whites (who make up less than 10% of the population), it has managed to rally those disillusioned by the clientelism, incompetence, and corruption of Mandela’s unworthy heirs. The DA now governs five of the country’s six largest cities. In the neighboring township, long after the vote ended, ANC and DA T-shirt wearers cross paths courteously. Today, it’s different. The DA’s national leader is holding a rally in a vacant lot. A few hundred people are there, including a good third of children, three-quarters of them ragged. Not an ANC T-shirt in sight amid the smoke of braais and deafening music. Fewer than ten pale faces: the journalist I’m driving, a local official, and activists. A small convoy of limousines arrives—just four, fewer than any of President Zuma’s offspring’s private stables. The crowd stirs, flags wave, and ululations ring out. Mmusi Maimane is a light-skinned mixed-race man, towering over the assembly, which he gently parts, joining in the dances and posing for selfies. He’ll give his speech, half in English, half in Afrikaans, perched on a truck platform—the meeting’s cost must be bearable for taxpayers. A mediocre populist orator, no doubt, but skilled. Two hours later, in the evening, another gathering. This time in a historic town property. A hundred and fifty people, casual chic, all white except for three mixed-race individuals... and the DA President. A Rotary Club vibe: everyone the town has in terms of farmers, shopkeepers, and entrepreneurs has paid their dues to honor Mmusi Maimane’s visit. His admirers see him as a new Mandela or compare him to Obama; his opponents think he’s being manipulated, and his detractors call him a traitor. He’s under forty, intelligent, and his wife is white. The chance he’ll become President of South Africa isn’t zero. * Posh Port Out, Starboard Home. Sonja, who walks the desert at dawn, calls one of her acquaintances posh, meaning snobbish. She’s got a sharp tongue. Wealthy English people (not the ones sent to Australia as convicts one-way) traveling to India would book their cabin on the port side on the way out and starboard on the way back. That way, they had a view of the coast throughout the journey instead of the ocean’s emptiness—whatever Kersauzon says. I didn’t know that by choosing my seat on the plane, depending on the route and time, so the sun lights up the landscape instead of blinding me, I was being posh. * Cosmopolitan Wine Tasting A pale lookalike of Jacob Zuma, a painter teaching his art in Europe; an Antwerp writer in South Africa; a desert gardener with a surfer look; an Irishwoman teaching yoga in the Karoo; an Afrikaner passionate about world history; another, our host, up to his neck in wine; and two French observers—observed observers. Conversations flow, then bottles, just before some hosts leave. Recurring corruption scandals involving President Zuma and his inner circle. A Chenin Blanc. Napoleon, who could have changed the course of South African history. An unwooded Chardonnay. The snake, a puff adder, one found in her garden. A Sauvignon Blanc. The kudu hit by a car at the village exit, which didn’t survive. A Pinotage. The bloody Anglo-Boer War. A Shiraz named Down to Earth. * Little Patagonia A story of pressure or depression, temperature differentials, or perhaps an age-old war between the elements—almost every day at the end of the afternoon, as if tucking in, the wind rushes down the mountain and gives a free haircut. When it falls, you don’t know where, and you hope it hurt itself and won’t get back up. I’m going to build a mast on the house, hoist the sails, trim them, and sail across the desert—it will remember the sea. *

Meeting in the township.



Since a cover is needed (in black and white)...

Hi everyone,

I’d love to share a little travel journal from our 14-day/12-night road trip with our two teens (14 and 17) in February/March 2020. A huge thank you to all of you who helped me plan this trip to South Africa—your patience with my endless questions was amazing!



We left Lyon on Saturday, February 22 at 7:00 AM and arrived in Johannesburg at 10:00 PM after a short layover in Amsterdam. Flights cost 440 € per person (booked in October), with carry-on luggage. We added just one checked bag for the whole family (80 € round-trip with the free Flying Blue membership). Since we’d be moving around a lot, we packed light! In Lyon, we reserved parking at P5 in advance for 70 € for 14 days. The Air France/KLM flight was smooth. When we landed, we picked up our bags and had booked a night at the Aero Guest Lodge, just 5 minutes from the airport, with a free shuttle and breakfast. All you have to do is send a WhatsApp message when you arrive at the airport to let the shuttle driver know. The tricky part? Finding him in the terminal—he wasn’t holding a sign with the hotel’s name. 🤪 A South African called him for me since my English wasn’t great (and I had to get used to the accent 😛), and helped us spot the driver (who was actually less than 5 meters away!) with other guests. When we got to the hotel: all good, except we were 10 people in a van meant for 7. The room was spacious—one king-size bed and two single beds for the kids—with a simple but clean bathroom, a garden, pool, and breakfast (which we didn’t try). All for 65 €, so an awesome value!

After a restful night, we woke up at 6:00 AM to catch the shuttle back to the airport. Just a heads-up: there’s only one shuttle per hour in the morning, and Kulula canceled our 9:00 AM flight, moving it to 8:00 AM—so no time for breakfast (it starts at 6:30). We waited 15 minutes in the lovely garden for the driver, who dropped us off at the airport in 5 minutes. We checked in for our flight to Cape Town, which cost around 40 € (including two checked bags per person). We grabbed breakfast at the airport instead (less than 20 € for all four of us—one of the nice surprises of South Africa!), and arrived in Cape Town at 10:20 AM.

After quickly picking up our bags, we headed to the Avis counter and left with a Toyota Corolla for 80 € for 4 days (rented with the Flying Blue card—free additional driver). Everything’s on the left... not easy, but it works if you plan your route well. We drove to our Airbnb in Constantia. We were surprised to see animals, bikes, and pedestrians on the highway! We arrived around 11:30 AM at our rental—a huge house in the vineyards, in a super secure neighborhood, about 15-20 minutes from Hout Bay. It felt like Beverly Hills, but with super-high walls and barbed wire around the villas. 😕



We dropped off our bags, changed into shorts (it was around 30°C/86°F), and headed to the Bay Harbour Market in Hout Bay. We had lunch there—such a great vibe! We wandered through the stalls, everyone picked their own dish, and we sat down on the terrace. There was music, artisans of all kinds... a really nice moment.



I’d withdrawn 50 € before leaving... and that gave me change to pay the parking attendant. Lunch cost around 30 € for four, including food and drinks.



After browsing the artisan stalls, we headed to Hout Bay Beach near the restaurant, Marina Wharf (another small tip for the parking attendant—we’d have to get used to that!). We stopped to admire the sea lions. An ice cream for 1 €? No way we were saying no! 🙂





The fatigue was starting to hit, so we headed to the grocery store 10 minutes away (Constantia shopping center) and then had an aperitif in front of the vineyards, opening a delicious bottle of white wine.

Nous partons 1 semaine en Afrique du Sud en août : Le Cap + le Kruger. Apparemment dans le Kruger, il y a des risques de palu, même en août (à confirmer ?).

Or je ne peux pas prendre de traitement "normal" à cause de mes oreilles. Le médecin m'a precrit de la Doxy qui pose là des soucis de photosensibilisation (exposition au soleil interdite sous peine de plaques rouges...)

Je suis un peu perdue là. une de mes amie me déceonseille carrément le traitement. Que faire ?

Bonjour,

A trois semaines du départ, je voudrais vous soumettre notre itinéraire et obtenir vos conseils, recommandations et suggestions.

Il s'agit donc d'un voyage en deux familles (enfants > 12 ans) et deux voitures (X-Trail 2x4), 30 jours départ Le Cap, hébergement petit budget, camping privilégié (on amène notre matériel) :

Jour 1 Afrique du Sud Citrusdal (self catering Blomhuist, Hebron) Jour 2 Afrique du Sud Springbok Jour 3 Namibie Hobas (Hobas Camping Site) Jour 4 Namibie Hobas (Hobas Camping Site) Jour 5 Namibie Aus Jour 6 Namibie Aus Jour 7 Namibie Sesriem (Sesriem Camping Site) Jour 8 Namibie Sesriem (Sesriem Camping Site) Jour 9 Namibie Walvis Bay Jour 10 Namibie Jour 11 Namibie Khorixas Jour 12 Namibie Jour 13 Namibie Jour 14 Namibie Jour 15 Namibie Jour 16 Namibie Okaukuejo (Okaukuejo Camping Site) Jour 17 Namibie Okaukuejo (Okaukuejo Camping Site) Jour 18 Namibie Okaukuejo (Okaukuejo Camping Site) Jour 19 Namibie Windhoek Jour 20 Namibie Jour 21 Namibie Mariental Jour 22 Namibie Jour 23 Afrique du Sud Upington Jour 24 Afrique du Sud Jour 25 Afrique du Sud Chutes d'Augrabies Jour 26 Afrique du Sud Jour 27 Afrique du Sud Cederberg Jour 28 Afrique du Sud Jour 29 Afrique du Sud Le Cap Jour 30 Afrique du Sud Le Cap Jour 31 Afrique du Sud Le Cap

Soit un minimum de 5 000 km... Mais peut-être une image permet une meilleure visualisation :



Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce faisable en prenant (relativement) notre temps ? Avons-nous oublié quelque chose qui serait incontournable et qui rentrerait dans les "trous" ? Pensez-vous qu'en cette saison il soit nécessaire de réserver les hébergements (nous n'avons pour l'heure réservé que notre première nuit ainsi que les nuits à Hobas, Sesriem et Etosha) ? Avez-vous des camping ou self-catering à nous suggérer sur cet itinéraire ?

En vous remerciant déjà pour vos conseils avisés.