Nous partons trois semaine en Thailande, et dans notre itinéraire nous ésitons entre ces 2 villes.
Nous ésitons pour 2 choses:
la plus belle à visiter?
nous voulons éviter de perdre trop de temps dans les transports. La quelle ville est plus simple à faire en partant de Bangkok puis après repartir sur Chiang mai?
Difficile de répondre Je te donnerai plutot les points positifs et négatifs des deux villes :
Sukhothai :
+ : Calme car c'est en fait un immense parc
Possibilité de visiter le parc en vélo
Architectures
: Un peu exentré géographiquement par rapport à Ayu
Plus loin qu'Ayu : 5-6 h de route de Bangkok
Ayutthaya :
+ : Des tonnes de temples
Architectures
Proche de Bangkok : 1h30 de trajet puis possibilité de reprendre le train pour aller à Chiang Mai
: Plus bruyant que Sukho
Quasiment impossible de se déplacer à pied ou à vélo : distance entre les temples trop importante
Tou dépend : avion, bus, voiture ou train ?
Durée : en une journée, 2, 3 ... ?
Si Avion : Suhko jouable
Train : Ayutthaya car si tu veux aller à Suhko tu sera obligé de descendre à Phitsa et de reprendre un bus pour Suhko
Bus : Ayutthaya
Mais vraimment essais de caser les deux car ces deux lieux sont vraimment complémentaires
Si tu prends le premier train cela te laisse la journée pour visiter Ayutthaya en tuk tuk (location à la journée env 1000 bath)
Et apres tu reviens à la gare (train à 19:20) pour aller vers Chiang Mai où tu arrives le lendemain matin (7:15).
Par contre bien réserver le train 2-3 jours avant en couchette 😉
Route: 1h30 à 2h de trajet pour visiter les vestiges de l'âge d'or de la Thaïlande. Ça vaut le détour. C'est un très beau site à visiter.
Vous pouvez le faire aller-retour à partir de Bangkok, de différentes façons:
Bus réguliers de la gare routière Nord (de 6h30 à 17h).
Train: 1h30 de trajet. Départ de la gare Hua Lampong ( de 4h30 à 20h)
Bateau: départ de l'embarcadère Tha Tien... 3/h environ jusqu'à Bang Phaeng.
Les temples sont ouverts de 8h à 16h...entrée payante.
Sukhothaï: situé à 466 km au N de Bangkok.
Première capitale du Siam, c'est l'un des plus beaux sites historiques et archéologiques à visiter du Royaume.
Vous pouvez vous y rendre par bus climatisés directs (3 départs/jour) de la gare routière Nord, sur Pahol Yothin Rd à Bangkok.
Après avoir visité Ayutthaya, vous pouvez tout simplement emprunter ce trajet:
" Bangkok/Sukhothaï/Chiang Mai ", avec Bangkok Airways, qui offrent 4 vols/sem pour cette liaison.
Chiang Maï est situé à 700 km N de Bangkok. Trajet qui se fait très bien par avion.
À mon avis, les 3 endroits sont à visiter, parce que tous beaux et intéressants.
En 3 semaines, vous avez suffisament de temps pour tout visiter.
J'espère que cette information vous sera utile.
Bon Voyage!
Isis 03
" Ce que nous sommes n'est rien, ce que nous cherchons est tout." (Friedrich Holderlin)
"Il y a tant dans le monde pour chacun de nous si seulement nous avons des yeux pour voir, un coeur pour aimer et les mains pour accueillir ce qui s'offre à nous." (Lucy Maud Montgomery)
Je vous envoie notre itinèraire pour que vous compreniez pourquoi nous devons choisir entre Ayutthaya ou Sukhothai.
1er jour: arriver à Bangkok à 12 h 30, départ direct vers la ville suivante(comment fait on pour y aller de l'aéroport?)
2eme jour: départ pour Sukhothai (quel moyen de transport, combien de temps?)
3 et 4eme jour: Sukhothai (attrations, centres d'interets?)
( Ayutthaya ou Sukhothai)
5eme jour: Départ pour Chiang mai (quel moyen de transport, combien de temps?)
6eme jour: Chiang mai nous logeons à la guesthouse "your house guesthouse" (votre opinion pour le logement?)
7eme et 8eme jour: Treck avec cette guesthouse
9eme jour: Chiang mai, train de nuit à 20h30 pour bangkok
10eme jour: 8h30 arrivé à Bangkok et départ directe pour Kanchanaburi (quel moyen de transport, combien de temps?)
11eme au 14eme jour: Kanchanaburi (attrations, centres d'interets?)
Apres le 14eme jour, départ à 0h05 ou 0h50 pour Chumphon par le train de nuit
15eme jour: Arrivé à Chumphon à 6h et départ pour Ko tao en bateau ( C'est fou ce trajet pour aller à Ko tao ou ca se fait?😕)
16 et 17eme jour: Ko tao (attrations, centres d'interets?)
18eme jour: Départ pour Ko phan ngan
19 et 20eme jour: Ko phan ngan (attrations, centres d'interets?)
21eme jour: départ de Ko phan ngan pour Ko Samui afin de prendre l'avion pour Bangkok
( peut on aller directement à l'aéroport et acheter les billets sur place et partir dans l'élan ou faut il réserver
avant car les places ne sont pas si dispo que ca?)
22eme jour: Bangkok (attrations, centres d'interets?)
23eme jour: Bangkok puis départ à 23h55 pour la France
Voilà pourquoi il faut choisir entre les 2 et encore on a enlevé Lopburi!😛
Si vous avez des commentaires, je vous en pris.
Merci
1er jour: arriver à Bangkok à 12 h 30, départ direct vers la ville suivante(comment fait on pour y aller de l'aéroport?)
- >Je te conseil de t'arréter à Bangkok et de décompresser apres un long voyage tu profitera mieux à repartir le lendemain matin.
SI tu veux a tout prix aller à la prochaine ville soit tu prend un taxi pour Ayutthaya de l'aéroport (1h30 cela dépend de la circulation) ou soit tu prend un taxi qui t'enmmene à la gare centrale où tu prends le train : Aéroport <-> centre ville (45min / 1h)
De mémoire le taxi de l'aéroport pour Ayutthaya n'était pas tres excessif (comparé à la France!) ...
Je te conseil vivement de t'arréter le premier jour : histoire de s'acclimater petit à petit : chaleur, bruit, langue et repère .
2eme jour: départ pour Sukhothai (quel moyen de transport, combien de temps?)
3 et 4eme jour: Sukhothai (attrations, centres d'interets?)
( Ayutthaya ou Sukhothai)
- >2ieme jour Tu prends le train (tu n'auras qu'a te laisser bercer) à la gare centrale de Bangkok. De ton hotel (où que tu sois) tout les tuktuks connaissent la gare principale.
1h30 de trajet jusqu'a Ayutthaya. Donc si tu pars à 7h tu sera la bas à 8h30. Tu prends un tuk tuk à la journée et tu auras pleinement le temps de visiter les 3/4 des temples.
Retour en TukTuk à la gare d'Ayutthaya pour 15:58 . Destination Phitsanuloke .
Tu t'arrêtes ensuite à Phitsanuloke (arrivé à 20:55) où tu passes la nuit tranquilement.
(le lendemain) tu as deux jours pour profiter de Sukhothai(3ieme et 4ieme jour) Phitsanuloke <-> Suhkothai 60 Km env 1h de trajet en bus.
Tu peux soit limite le matin visiter Phisanuloke et ces temples -> partir vers les 11:00 /12:00 de Phitsanuloke tu seras à midi / 13:00 à Suhkothai : Tu loues un/des vélos et tu as toute l'apres midi pour vister le parc.
Apres lendemain rebellote tu loues un vélo et tu continu ta viste de Sukhothai historical parc....
5eme jour: Départ pour Chiang mai (quel moyen de transport, combien de temps?)
- >Bus direct de phitsanuloke le jour 5.
OU soit tu prends le train la veille(jour 4) à Phitsanuloke (à 00:23) tu peux en attendant le train la veille faire le marché de nuit et aller te promener le long de la rivière Nan : tres animé le soir.
Des restaurants sympathique ....
En plus il n'y a pas bcp de touriste à Phitsanuloke : thailande authentique.
Dans ce cas ci tu arrivera le lendemain matin vers 7:00 à Chiang Mai (jour 5)
6eme jour: Chiang mai nous logeons à la guesthouse "your house guesthouse" (votre opinion pour le logement?)
- > Je ne connais pas donc pas de commentaire
7eme et 8eme jour: Treck avec cette guesthouse
9eme jour: Chiang mai, train de nuit à 20h30 pour bangkok
- > Honetement je te conseil par contre de prendre l'avion pour redescendre : vu le prix de l'avion ... www.airasia.com -> essai tu verra c'est raisonnable et en plus ca t'évitera de perdre une journée dans le train
Si tu prends un train de nuit ATTENTION LES HORAIRES DES TRAINS ONT CHANGEES ! --> http://www.railway.co.th/English/Time_HTML.asp
22eme jour: Bangkok (attrations, centres d'interets?)
- > Le grand palais, le wat arun, le boudha couché, le parc Dusit, le quartier de chinatown, les klongs ..., MBK : le temple de la consommation à Bangkok
Voila si tu n' as pas compris un truc (j'ai tappé ce texte en vitesse !) .. n'hésites pas
Enfin dernière remarque j'ai lu que souvent tu fais des "départ direct" : Je serais toi je penserai à faire à chaque fois un arret : ne serais ce que pour les retards (train ou bus ou avion) puis correspondance difficile ... attente ... On est pas à l'abris d'imprévus (baggage livré en retard par exemple le jour 1) alors mieux vaut avoir une journée de battement entre chaque grand trajet .... cela te met moins de pression et tu aura l'esprit tranquil . Cela te donnera moins l'impression d'être toujours en train d'attendre un bus ou un train (en plus j'imagine chargé !) mais bon ce n'est qu'un conseil qui ne tiens qu'a moi !
Ce qui donne en résumé :
Jour 1 Arrivée Bangkok
Jour 2 BANGKOK
Jour 3 BANGKOK / AYUTTHAYA / PHITSANULOKE
Jour 4 PHITSANULOKE / SUKHOTHAI
Jour 5 SUKHOTHAI / PHITSANULOKE / CHIANG MAI
Jour 6 CHIANG MAI
Jour 7 Trek
Jour 8 Trek
Jour 9 CHIANG MAI
Jour 10 BANGKOK
Je ne peux répondre à ta question tout de suite. Il y a trop d'informations à gérer et je ne connais pas tout de la Thaïlande. Toutefois, j'effectue une recherche et je te reviens là-dessus plus tard.
Je sais que rien n'est si compliqué, ni très coûteux pour ce genre de voyage, il suffit de s'organiser.
Tu aurais pu te faire aider et guider par une agence de voyages, c'est gratuit! Ainsi il t'aurait organisé un voyage à la carte
Y as-tu pensé?
Il faut que tu achètes ton billet d'avion quelque part de toute façon.
Tout est possible, suffit d'avoir les bonnes informations.
Je te reviens là-dessus.
Isis
N.B. Tu auras sans doute des nouvelles d'autres vfistes aussi.
" Ce que nous sommes n'est rien, ce que nous cherchons est tout." (Friedrich Holderlin)
"Il y a tant dans le monde pour chacun de nous si seulement nous avons des yeux pour voir, un coeur pour aimer et les mains pour accueillir ce qui s'offre à nous." (Lucy Maud Montgomery)
Le parc de Sukhotai est à environ 12 kms du centre ville .
J'y suis allé en songtaew, c'est vrai que c'est etendu .
Voir les autres reponses plus à jour car j 'y suis allé il y a longtemps
en Mai 2007 je suis allé à Ayuttayah qui ne m'avait jamais attiré à voir photos et cartes postales.
Et j avouerai que j'ai preféré à sukhotai ;
Bus terminal Mochit : depart toutes les 30mns, 1H30 de trajet
Terminus Bus sur une large avenue en plein centre, cabanes autour . tu n as pas l'impression d'etre en ville, A 600m tu as le Ayothaya hotel ch AC SdB 1200B avec petit dej et piscine
Je te conseille de prendre un mototaxi, les gars proposent des prix corrects et il n'y a pas besoin de trop discuter ou alors un tuKtuk local ( 120 B à 200B de l'heure )
Entrée des sites : 20B en general
Sans etre fana de ruines, certaines sont splendides et bien mieux que sur les photos;
Les bords de la riviere sont pas desagréables non plus et coté nord il y a des possibilités de louer une pirogue à moteur.
Il y a pas mal de tours operators qui s'arretent mais les bus continuent sur le Nord ou Bangkok
Pour bien faire, il faut rester combien de jour sur Ayutthaya et/ou Sukhothai?
Le train nuit Bangkok-Phitsanulok passe t il par Ayutthaya? Et est il possible de le prendre de Ayutthaya pour aller au nord et combien de temps pour aller à Phitsanulok?
Pour bien faire, il faut rester combien de jour sur Ayutthaya et/ou Sukhothai?
- > Une journée Ayu et une ou deux à Suko
Le train nuit Bangkok-Phitsanulok passe t il par Ayutthaya?
- > Tous les trains en direct du nord passe par Ayu
Et est il possible de le prendre de Ayutthaya pour aller au nord et combien de temps pour aller à Phitsanulok?
- > Déja répondu voir ma réponse plus haut : 5h en moy mais ca dépend du train (express ou pas)
> Toutes les réponses sur le site officiel des trains Thai : Horaires départ arrivé et ville durée des trajets ...
Sukhothai me fait prendre beaucoup de temps dans les transports.
Car on arrive par avion à Bangkok à 12h30 puis on part direction à Ayutthaya.
On dort sur place puis une journée à Ayutthaya.
Le soir on prend direction: Chiang mai 12h de train de nuit en couchette
ou Phitsanulok 6h de train de nuit en couchette puis bus jusqu'à Sukhothai. Cette solution risque de nous fatiguer, c'est ca qui me fait peur. Pour repartir le lendemain soir pour Chiang mai (bus, train).
ne serait-il pas plus simple et plus rapide, pour toi, de prendre l'avion(qui n'est pas trés cher), vue la brièveté de ton séjour ? par ex:BKK/Sukhotai, Sukothai/Chiang-Mai et autres .Tu gagnerais du temps, et ce gain de temps te permettrais de prendre un taxi(pour la journée)qui te conduirait à Ayuthaya et t'en ramènerait, le soir.Trés sympa à Ayuthaya:louer une barque à moteur, qui te fera visiter le site par les canaux.
Pense, quand meme, à regarder attentivement les heures d'arrivée des avions ou des bus, car généralement, dans les hotels, les"check-in"se font à 12h00.Et perso, j'ai une sainte horreur de glander dans le hall, au milieu de mes sacs, en attendant que ma chambre soit accessible.Surtout, aprés douze heures de bus !
Je me permet, par contre, de te dire, qu'à mon avis tu fais trop de choses et d'endroits différents.Bien sur tu ramèneras des photos de pleins de coins....mais, tu n'en auras pas vu grand-chose ! faute de temps passé sur place.Peut-etre, vaut-il mieux moins planifier(on dirait un pland'invasion de la Thailande 😎), rester plus longtemps dans moins d'endroits, mais mieux les apprécier.Enfin, ce n'est qu'un avis perso.
yama
L'homme a trois coeurs. Le premier tout le monde le connait. Le second, seuls ses amis le connaissent. Le troisième ? c'est le vrai, le sien. (Proverbe Japonais)
j'aurai tendance à de dire personellement Sukhotai même si Ayutthaya est à voir mais s'est tellement developpe ces dernieres annees ....et puis tu peux y faire un aller-retour dans la journée a ton retour si tu as le temps et apres avoir vyu le reste de ce qui t'interesse et puis comme quelques cliches valent mieux que ....
La gare routière ou tu arriveras....
Mêlme si Ayuthaya est repute pour sa tres bonne bouffe, on trouve aussi ici quelques bonne surprises....😉
et oui, on te le dit, c'est magique ..... meme si tu finis au "poste", tu sera pas si mal non ???? (je blague evidement ...)
Il est important de percevoir combien votre propre bonheur est lié à celui des autres, il n'existe pas de bonheur individuel totalement indépendant d'autrui.....(Dalaï-Lama)
ah lalalala moi j ai vraiment prefere Sukothai dont je ne connais pas l ortho ceci dit, c est bien plus magique sauvage et mystique qu ayutaya toute betonnee (le site je veux dire) et tres visitee car proche de BKK etc
enfin ayutaya est magnifique aussi mais ce n est pas le meme ressenti...
"Les proverbes sont comme de petites gouttes d eau qui nonchalamment tombent quand Dieu pleure", moi.
Salut tout le monde
Tout d'abord, ca fait super plaisir d'avoir tant de réponses à mes questions.
Merci Yama pour tes sugguestions.
Il faudrait peut etre faire:
Arriver Bangkok 12h30, départ direct à Ayutthaya et nuit sur place.( bus ou train?) Lendemain Ayutthaya puis fin d'après midi départ pour Phitsanulok et nuit sur place. (où?) Lendemain matin bus pour sukhothai + journée Lendemain journée à Sukhothai + avion pour Chiang Mai ( avez vous les heures et tarifs? )
Solution pas très couteuse, moins fatiguante et gain de temps.
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Bonjour à tous
Je n ai pas trouvé d infos récentes sur Kuching
Est ce quelqu un peut recommander un hotel ou une guesthouse à moins de 100 RM bien et pas cher? pas de dortoir merci
Est ce qu en novembre il pleut beaucoup et aller à Semenggoh ou Bako vaut le coup ou pas?
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi there,
I’m planning a family trip (my wife and I, both 47, and our two sons, aged 5 and 12) to Malaysia for the last week of June and the first two weeks of July 2027.
We used to love road trips as a couple, then as a trio, but since our second child arrived, we’ve taken a break with "camping village" style trips.
Now feels like the right time to get back to our old habits, while adjusting the pace for the kids.
We’re craving Asia. We’ve been lucky enough to visit Thailand, Indonesia (Bali and Lombok), and Sri Lanka before.
Friends have raved about Malaysia, so we’re definitely tempted.
For those who know and love Malaysia, what would be a good itinerary starting from Kuala Lumpur, with a maximum of 3-4 stops? We’d like a mix of culture, nature, and relaxation (just to clarify, we’re not big beach fans). All of this without rushing, of course.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
That said, I’m not really sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still any walks or sights worth checking out in Kampong Thom?
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
Hi there, I’ll be on vacation in Malaysia in November and plan to spend 5 days in Penang. After that, I’d like to visit some temples and places in Butterworth or nearby, and also explore the city. Since I usually get around on foot, which neighborhood would be best for me—meaning within a 30-minute walk of attractions, street food stalls, bus lines, etc.? Thanks in advance for your help!
Françoise
Hello, it’s been a while since I last asked for your help on this forum—I’ve really missed it! I hope you’re all doing well, whether you're new or returning members.
I’m planning a trip from February 6 to 18, 2027, with my sister (we’re 47 and 50—time flies!). I’ve got my eye on a flight from Paris that lands in Bangkok on February 7 at 3 PM, with a return flight from Bangkok on February 18 at noon.
My sister has never been to this destination, and it’ll be her first time in Asia. Her priorities: beaches, sunshine, and cocktails by the shore. For me, I love that too, but I also enjoy exploring, nature, forests, and a bit of comfort (mixing guesthouses and higher-end hotels with pools). A little evening entertainment would be great, but not too much—good cocktails in a nice atmosphere rather than a rave party ;-). And I can’t help but dream of taking her on a little trek through a tropical forest (guaranteed memories and laughs, though she might curse me at the time) and showing her some karst landscapes.
I’ve been to Thailand before, but it was 15 years ago...
The idea is to give her a taste of Bangkok for 1 or 2 nights, a few days on an island (but which one...?), a tropical forest excursion with 1 or 2 nights on-site (Khao Sok?), and then back to Bangkok.
For the "main" island, even after reading the *Guide du Routard*, I’m still undecided. It’s hard to find a place that ticks all the boxes without feeling as crowded as the French Riviera in August: Koh Lanta? Khao Lak (though it’s not an island)? Koh Tao (I could maybe get my PADI certification, but I’m afraid she’d get bored, and it might be better to save that for a solo trip)? Koh Yao Yai (I worry we’d be bored in the evenings)? What a dilemma!
Thank you if you’ve read this far! Feel free to share any advice—it’ll all be warmly welcomed.
Here’s a rough outline of the itinerary (I’d rather skip a night in Bangkok if needed):
· Saturday, February 6, 2027: departure (overnight flight)
· Sunday, February 7, 2027: arrival at 3 PM, probably at the hotel by 6 PM, evening in Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Monday, February 8, 2027: day in Bangkok (Wat Pho and a floating market?) (overnight in Bangkok)
· Tuesday, February 9, 2027: travel to Koh Lanta or another island (flight to Phuket or Krabi?) (overnight on island "x")
· Wednesday, February 10, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Thursday, February 11, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Friday, February 12, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Saturday, February 13, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Sunday, February 14, 2027: beach and walks (overnight on island "x")
· Monday, February 15, 2027: travel to Khao Sok—nighttime excursion to Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Tuesday, February 16, 2027: exploration and hike in Khao Sok (overnight in Khao Sok)
· Wednesday, February 17, 2027: return trip to Bangkok (overnight in Bangkok)
· Thursday, February 18, 2027: return flight to Paris at noon
I’m planning a trip to Cambodia and was set on visiting the Ratanakiri region, which seemed to match what we love most in terms of landscapes: forests, jungle, greenery...
However, as I started looking into the area, I read that deforestation there is massive, and some of the info on the topic is years old—the situation hasn’t improved since, unfortunately.
So my question is: is Ratanakiri still worth visiting, and does it justify the long travel time and distance to get there?
I’ve seen that jungle treks are possible, but from experience, I know guides sometimes hesitate to venture deep into the forest and stick to shorter walks along the edges of parks.
Hi there,
I’ve found so many tips and reviews on this forum, so it’s my turn to contribute a little.
We spent just over two weeks with our family, with the following itinerary:
- Hanoi: 5 days
- Halong Bay: 3 days and 2 nights
- Tam Coc: 3 days
- Mai Chau: 2 days
- Sapa: 3 days
We got around by bike, scooter, Grab, and bus.
Our main accommodations were homestays and hotels in Hanoi.
We visited lots of museums, temples, and neighborhoods in Hanoi.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Sapa with May, a Hmong local, without going through an agency.
A few small regrets: the weather was overcast, and we couldn’t make it to Fansipan, but nothing major 😅. We also couldn’t find transport to get from Sapa to Mu Cang Chai.
Other than that, this trip will stay in our memories for the kindness of the Vietnamese people, the connections we made, the food (street food, homestays...), the coffee 😋, the landscapes, and how easy it was to get around...
Our goal was to take our time and focus only on a small part of northern Vietnam.
If you need any tips or recommendations, don’t hesitate to ask.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Cédric.
Hi there, we’re landing at Hanoi Airport and would like to head straight to Cao Bang without going into Hanoi. Does anyone know if there are buses that go directly from the airport to Cao Bang (especially in the early afternoon)? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
I’m currently working on a 30-day itinerary for May/June 2027.
10 days in eastern Java (Malang, Bromo, waterfalls, Meru Beriti Park, Banyuwangi, and Ijen), a short transit in Ubud for a few days, then Flores before heading back to Jakarta.
We’ll spend 15 days in Flores (the classic route: Moni, Bajawa, Riung, Ruteng, ending in Labuan Bajo).
I’d love some firsthand feedback on flights to Maumere or Ende from Bali Denpasar. I know there are no direct routes and that you have to connect through Labuan Bajo or Timor (I think), which isn’t an issue in itself.
But I’ve read here and there that flights to these destinations can be delayed—or worse, canceled—and that it’s better to fly in and out of Labuan Bajo, which isn’t exactly ideal...
Thanks for any tips or experiences you can share!
hi everyone,
I want to travel in the north for 3 weeks in September-October 2026 to meet ethnic minorities, photograph mountain rice terraces and their harvest, and revisit Halong Bay—but maybe Lan Ha Bay instead. Can you recommend one or more local agencies?
Thanks, and happy holidays!
I need some expert advice on these two destinations for a 15-day trip. We land in KL and plan to stay for 2 days before heading to Borneo and finishing with an island for snorkeling.
For those who’ve been, what are your must-sees?
We were thinking of spending the last 3 days on the Perhentian Islands, unless you’ve got another island to recommend near Borneo.
Thanks for your tips and help!
I’d love to get some feedback on our itinerary—it’s probably pretty basic! This is our second trip to Asia and our first to Indonesia. We have three kids aged 20, 18, and 12. We land in Jakarta at 4 PM, spend 3 nights/2 days there, then take the train to Yogyakarta for 3 nights/2 days, followed by the train to Surabaya for 2 nights/1 day, then the train to Bromo for 1 day/1 night, a private driver to Ijen for 2 nights/2 days, then on to Bali (Ubud) for 4 nights/3 days, followed by Gili Air for 3 nights/2 days, Senggigi (Lombok) for 2 nights, and finally 5 nights in Kuta. I’m considering cutting the 2 nights in Senggigi to just keep Kuta and extend it to 7 nights. In Lombok, I’m not sure how to get around since I’m not comfortable with scooters... Your thoughts on all of this, and any advice, are more than welcome—don’t hesitate!
For those wondering why cities like Jakarta and Surabaya: we don’t often get the chance to visit big Asian cities, so we wanted to include that discovery in our trip. The trains between Jakarta and Yogyakarta, Surabaya and Probolinggo are booked. The return flight from Lombok to Jakarta is also set. Accommodations are booked but flexible (same for the trains).
Hi everyone,
I’m looking for addresses for guesthouses or, even better, houseboats or rafting houses on the River Kwai, between Kanchanaburi and Sangkhlaburi, to spend a few weeks contemplating this beautiful river.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Premaria
Hi there,
we’re currently in Mai Chau and tomorrow we’re hitting the road back to Hanoi to head up toward Bac Ha and Sapa.
We haven’t really had a set plan since we arrived—we’ve already done the Halong Bay on land and by sea.
I’ve got 2 free days before heading to Bac Ha and Sapa.
Any tips?
Thanks, and looking forward to hearing from you.