Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
La recherche du bonheur
by Lubnadusoir
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Par curiosité, je voudrais demander aux autres voyageurs en quoi le fait de partir et de découvrir de nouveaux horizons pouvait rendre l'homme plus heureux.
Que ce soit une expérience personnelle ou lue dans un livre, en quoi celà vous procure un bien être, une joie, ce qui s'approche le plus de la pleinitude à la définition aussi vaste qu'infinie du bonheur.
😛 Et puis comme je suis trés trés curieuse, je voudrais aussi savoir comment vous voyagez, seul (e), accompagné(e), en famille, entre amis?
on croit faire un voyage, mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait ou vous défait.
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Puisque tu es très très curieuse, parcours ce grand livre qu'est VF et au fil des posts tu devrais pouvoir trouver toutes les réponses à tes questions.....
Dolma 🙂
Dolma 🙂
un chemin et la caresse du vent, alors je pars en voyage...
[...]en quoi le fait de partir et de découvrir de nouveaux horizons pouvait rendre l'homme plus heureux.[...]
Ca ne le rend pas obligatoirement plus heureux, mais ça peut parfois l'aider à le rester... bon, ok, c'était une inspiration passagère sans grand élément de réponse.
Ca ne le rend pas obligatoirement plus heureux, mais ça peut parfois l'aider à le rester... bon, ok, c'était une inspiration passagère sans grand élément de réponse.
You can't educate I, for no equal opportunity
Talking 'bout my freedom, people freedom and liberty !
😉 c'est déjà pas mal!^^ j'essaie de lire le maximum d'interventions sur ce forum, ça m'aide dans ma rédaction sur la recherche du bonheur, les 3 livres que j'étudie parlent, ou se situent en inde... Siddharta d'Hermann Hesse, Un Barbare en Asie d'Henri Michaux, et Passage to India de Forster. Et je remarque qu'à chaque fois, le fait de voyager permet une meilleure connaissance de soi, une plus grande ouverture d'esprit, et aussi beaucoup d'espérances contrariées. Aussi dans ce post je me demande pourquoi l'Inde (entre autre) va concentrer tous les espoirs de bonheur chez les écrivains voyageurs, probablement parce que beaucoup de phylosophies et de religions se sont développées là bas.On entend beaucoup parler de touristes (sans aucune notion péjorative dans ce terme) qui ont tout plaqué pour s'installer là bas. Mais aujourd'hui, est ce un mythe ?
on croit faire un voyage, mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait ou vous défait.
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Tu sais, pour moi les voyages c'est le bonheur de prendre un congé, de relaxer, d'être avec l'être aimer sans rien qui nous dérange, de voir la vie des autres personne et le plaisir de revenir chez nous en pensant que l, on est bien aussi.
Tu fais-tu une maitrise avec le sujet du bonheur et les voyages seulement?
Car il y a tellement de chose qui nous rendent heureux et de petite chose qui nous arrive aussi des fois.
Ah ! la grande et mythique recherche du bonheur est décidemment toujours d'actualité. Mais avant de rechercher quelque chose, n'est-il pas plus important de savoir ce que c'est. Chacun possède une définition différente de cette chimère et je pense franchement qu'elle est simplement propre à chaque être humain. Je développerais volontier mes idées sur ce sujet mais je doute que ce forum soit adapté a ce genre de discussions. En tous cas, bon courage dans cette dissertation au doux goût d'infini.
You can't educate I, for no equal opportunity
Talking 'bout my freedom, people freedom and liberty !
Il s'agit seulement un sujet de fin d'année 😉pour un cours consacré à la littérature européenne sur l'Inde. Je remarque que cette destination est l'une des plus prisée par les voyageurs (moi y compris), et je crois que ce désir est beaucoup lié à la littérature et au mythe de sagesse des "Upanishad", des philosophies Hindouïste et Boudhiste. Est-ce qu'aujourd'hui encore on voyage en Inde avec cette aspiration au bonheur?
nb: effectivement le sujet de mon post portait sur le voyage en général, plus que sur une destination particulière, mais je prends l'exemple de l'inde comme Ségalen trouvait son bonheur dans le passé mythique de l'île de Tahiti...
nb: effectivement le sujet de mon post portait sur le voyage en général, plus que sur une destination particulière, mais je prends l'exemple de l'inde comme Ségalen trouvait son bonheur dans le passé mythique de l'île de Tahiti...
on croit faire un voyage, mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait ou vous défait.
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Salut
Quand on voyage on est loin des tracas quotidien, du stress. On apprécie mieux la vie. Toutefois il faut savoir aimer son voyage et en profiter. Comme le dit Saint Exupéry : On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
Pour trouver le bonheur, il faut se connaitre soi même d'abord. Ensuite on pourra voir la vie d'une façon meilleure. J'ai souvent voyagé, mais c'est bien après que j'ai compris qu'il y a voyager et voyager.
Tant qu'on ne voit pas avec le coeur, on voyage mal, on voyage pour les autres, pour monter les photos qu'on a prises etc... J'adore prendre des photos, mais certaines d'entres elles représentent quelquechose de plus que les autres.
Voici un conte hindou, que j'avais déjà copier/coller dans un post précédent :
Une vieille légende hindoue raconte qu'il y eut un temps où tous les hommes étaient des dieux. Mais ils abusèrent tellement de leur divinité que Brahma, le maître des dieux, décida de leur ôter le pouvoir divin et de le cacher à un endroit où il leur serait impossible de le retrouver. Le grand problème fut donc de lui trouver une cachette.
Lorsque les dieux mineurs furent convoqués à un conseil pour résoudre ce problème, ils proposèrent ceci : "Enterrons la divinité de l'homme dans la terre." Mais Brahma répondit : "Non, cela ne suffit pas, car l'homme creusera et la trouvera."
Alors les dieux répliquèrent : "Dans ce cas, jetons la divinité dans le plus profond des océans."
Mais Brahma répondit à nouveau : "Non, car tôt ou tard, l'homme explorera les profondeurs de tous les océans, et il est certain qu'un jour, il la trouvera et la remontera à la surface."
Alors les dieux mineurs conclurent : "Nous ne savons pas où la cacher car il ne semble pas exister sur terre ou dans la mer d'endroit que l'homme ne puisse atteindre un jour."
Alors Brahma dit : "Voici ce que nous ferons de la divinité de l'homme : nous la cacherons au plus profond de lui-même, car c'est le seul endroit où il ne pensera jamais à chercher."
Depuis ce temps-là, conclut la légende, l'homme a fait le tour de la terre, il a exploré, escaladé, plongé et creusé, à la recherche de quelque chose qui se trouve en lui. » (Eric Butterworth, Découvre la puissance en toi)
On ne voit bien qu'avec le coeur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux. Saint Exupéry
Lubna, bonsoir 🙂
Je partage globalement les avis déjà exprimés... Voyager permet de développer notre capacité à relativiser, à prendre de la distance, à se "dénombriliser" ; temporairement du moins. Mais je pense que cela est également possible, chez soi, en confrontant ses points de vue et expériences avec celles des autres. Simplement par la communication avec toutes sortes de gens, en laissant la porte ouverte, aussi, à ceux qui ne nous ressemblent pas du point de vue de l'âge, du niveau socio-culturel, du parcours de vie, de l'apparence, ...
"Déranger ses pensées", bousculer ses préjugés, apprendre, évoluer, selon moi, peut se faire partout ; cela relève de notre responsabilité, à chacun de nous de créer les conditions pour.
Voyager, pour moi, c'est se sentir vivant, c'est retrouver des yeux d'enfant, c'est prendre de la nouveauté plein la gueule, c'est avoir tous les sens en éveil.
C'est plus une recherche de bien-être que de bonheur. C'est aussi une évasion, une fuite, une parenthèse pendant laquelle on peut mettre les problèmes du quotidien au fond d'un tiroir.
Je vais sortir la pire des phrases bateau, mais bon : le bonheur, il se vit, il se ressent, il ne se cherche pas et encore moins ne se possède.
On peut vivre 3 p'tits moments de bonheurs dans une journée, entrecoupés de deux p'tits malheurs.
Je trouve la conception, dans la légende citée par Dexxa, pleine de "vérité". La capacité, plus ou moins grande, au bonheur se trouve en chacun de nous. Je pense que que tout est dans la tête, ou dans le coeur, ou dans la connexion entre les deux, mais effectivement à l'intérieur.
Je crois que c'est un leurre, bien confortable par ailleurs, de s'imaginer que l'accès au bonheur passe par des apports extérieurs. Profondément subjectif, comme le disait, avec d'autres termes, quelqu'un plus haut, je pense qu'il est une question d'état d'esprit. Si je devais tenter de le définir, je dirais que c'est "une paix avec soi-même"... 🙂
Je partage globalement les avis déjà exprimés... Voyager permet de développer notre capacité à relativiser, à prendre de la distance, à se "dénombriliser" ; temporairement du moins. Mais je pense que cela est également possible, chez soi, en confrontant ses points de vue et expériences avec celles des autres. Simplement par la communication avec toutes sortes de gens, en laissant la porte ouverte, aussi, à ceux qui ne nous ressemblent pas du point de vue de l'âge, du niveau socio-culturel, du parcours de vie, de l'apparence, ...
"Déranger ses pensées", bousculer ses préjugés, apprendre, évoluer, selon moi, peut se faire partout ; cela relève de notre responsabilité, à chacun de nous de créer les conditions pour.
Voyager, pour moi, c'est se sentir vivant, c'est retrouver des yeux d'enfant, c'est prendre de la nouveauté plein la gueule, c'est avoir tous les sens en éveil.
C'est plus une recherche de bien-être que de bonheur. C'est aussi une évasion, une fuite, une parenthèse pendant laquelle on peut mettre les problèmes du quotidien au fond d'un tiroir.
Je vais sortir la pire des phrases bateau, mais bon : le bonheur, il se vit, il se ressent, il ne se cherche pas et encore moins ne se possède.
On peut vivre 3 p'tits moments de bonheurs dans une journée, entrecoupés de deux p'tits malheurs.
Je trouve la conception, dans la légende citée par Dexxa, pleine de "vérité". La capacité, plus ou moins grande, au bonheur se trouve en chacun de nous. Je pense que que tout est dans la tête, ou dans le coeur, ou dans la connexion entre les deux, mais effectivement à l'intérieur.
Je crois que c'est un leurre, bien confortable par ailleurs, de s'imaginer que l'accès au bonheur passe par des apports extérieurs. Profondément subjectif, comme le disait, avec d'autres termes, quelqu'un plus haut, je pense qu'il est une question d'état d'esprit. Si je devais tenter de le définir, je dirais que c'est "une paix avec soi-même"... 🙂
🙂Bonjour, Lubnadusoir
Partir pour être plus heureux non, je ne pense pas mais partir simplement pour sortir de nos habitudes, de nos prejugés, de nos certitudes. Je crois qu'à l'instar des livres, voyager nous permet d'apprendre et donc de mieux comprendre.
Pour ta deuxième question, en ce qui me concerne, même en groupe je suis seule dans mes voyages.
Partir pour être plus heureux non, je ne pense pas mais partir simplement pour sortir de nos habitudes, de nos prejugés, de nos certitudes. Je crois qu'à l'instar des livres, voyager nous permet d'apprendre et donc de mieux comprendre.
Pour ta deuxième question, en ce qui me concerne, même en groupe je suis seule dans mes voyages.
pour moi le voyage represente plutot le moyen d'etre plus en harmonie avec le cote primitif de ma personalitee.
en effet je me sens profondement nomade ce que je suis pendant mes voyages!! ce qui me permet de me raprocher de ce que je suis profondement, ce qui est impossible le reste du temps!
aucun bonheur a rentrer, je ne me sent de nulle part, je ne suis pas d'ou je suis nee, je ne suis pas d'ou j'habite, lorsque je rentre dans ma famille, je ne me sent pas chez moi!
je suis chez moi la ou je pose mes affaires, n'importe ou.
et le bonheur deviens possible lorsque l'hamonie se fait entre qui l'on est profondement et ce que l'on vit.
une pensee que j'ais beaucoup aime; dans le film de boorman: rangoon, la conception du bonnheur de deux civilisation est exposee. d'un cote l'americaine qui dit qu'on lui avait appris que si elle etait sage, si elle travaillait bien elle aurait droit au bonnheur de l'autre le vieux birman qui lui repond qu'on leur apprend que la vie est une longue succession d'epreuve et lorqu'un petit peu de bonnheur arrive c'est un repis qu'elle nous laisse.
une pensee que j'ais beaucoup aime; dans le film de boorman: rangoon, la conception du bonnheur de deux civilisation est exposee. d'un cote l'americaine qui dit qu'on lui avait appris que si elle etait sage, si elle travaillait bien elle aurait droit au bonnheur de l'autre le vieux birman qui lui repond qu'on leur apprend que la vie est une longue succession d'epreuve et lorqu'un petit peu de bonnheur arrive c'est un repis qu'elle nous laisse.
Ah merde c'est focalisé sur l'inde, sinon pour ton sujet la recherche du bonheur je t'aurais bien conseillé deposer Siddharta, qui est peut etre le plus mauvais des Herman Hesse, et de prendre Le Loup des Steppes qui le vaut cent fois et qui est aussi une belle histoire de voyage... intérieur, m'enfin...
Ca commence à devenir éculé mais c'est toujours aussi vrai : lisez l'Usage du Monde ! :)
Pour moi voyager c'est tout simplement me rapprocher de moi-meme ! Beaucoup d'interferences nous traversent dans nos villes et pays tellement developpés et materialistes. En voyage, tu es libre de tout, les imprevus se produisent a longueur de temps, les rencontres aussi d'ailleurs. Je me laisse guider au gré du vent et des envies. Pour moi c'est magique. Je ne dirai pas que le voyage nous rends plus heureux. Je dirai que bien se connaitre, c'est un grand pas vers le bonheur. Le reste n'est rien! Connaitre qui on est vaut tous les voyages du monde ! Et puis moi je me suis decouvert a 29 ans pendant un voyage.
Je dirai aussi que le voyage (seul) est un espace-temps tres speciale et immensement favorable a prendre soin de soin et a trouver le chemin de la decouverte de soi.
Stef.
Je dirai aussi que le voyage (seul) est un espace-temps tres speciale et immensement favorable a prendre soin de soin et a trouver le chemin de la decouverte de soi.
Stef.
Je partage à peu près l'avis de ceux qui ont déjà pris la parole, mais ma vision se rapproche plus de celle de bossanova. Ce qui me rend heureux avant tout dans les voyages, c'est de pouvoir m'émerveiller, de retrouver mes yeux d'enfants. Je crois que c'est cela qui me rend le plus heureux : m'émerveiller de tout ! De chaque rencontre, de chaque découverte..que ce soit un endroit, un paysage, l'histoire d'une civilisation, de nouveaux amis, et même aussi des sensations, une situation... S'émerveiller, c'est éprouver quelque chose...ressentir.. Si on ne peut plus s'émerveiller, s'étonner, alors il s'installe l'ennui...Et l'ennui c'est la pire des choses qui peut nous arriver..j'irais même jusqu'à dire que c'est pire que la tristesse.. Car avec l'ennui, on ne ressent rien..si ce n'est une grande lassitude..Rien n'est pire qu'un monde fade, sans surprises. Bien sûr, il n'y a pas que l'émerveillement qui me rend heureux dans les voyages. Il y a tant de critères, de facteurs qui se mêlent que cela devient difficile de pouvoir essayer de le définir avec des mots.
C'est un peu comme une passion ou l'amour...Qu'est-ce qui fait que l'on aime quelqu'un ? Qu'est-ce qui fait que telle ou telle activité nous passionne au point que l'on puisse faire beaucoup de sacrifices pour cette passion ?? C'est une autre question qui mériterait aussi d'être posée.. Après tout, les voyages sont un peu une passion pour nous tous. Mais là, je rejoins à nouveau la plupart des personnes qui ont déjà pris la parole sur ce sujet : ce qui nous passionne, nous anime, se trouve en chacun de nous...
Pour répondre à ton autre question : j'ai voyagé en famille, je voyage avec d'autres routards et je voyagerai sans doute avec des amis voire seul aussi... Je pense que c'est tout aussi intéressant de pouvoir voyager seul, en famille, avec des personnes que l'on connaît peu ou avec des amis..chacun de ces "types" de voyage ont leurs intérêts..leurs avantages et leurs inconvénients.
Pour répondre à ton autre question : j'ai voyagé en famille, je voyage avec d'autres routards et je voyagerai sans doute avec des amis voire seul aussi... Je pense que c'est tout aussi intéressant de pouvoir voyager seul, en famille, avec des personnes que l'on connaît peu ou avec des amis..chacun de ces "types" de voyage ont leurs intérêts..leurs avantages et leurs inconvénients.
citoyen du monde ^^
Tout d'abord :Dolma, Pataugas, Rastazebra, Mldiane 57, Dexxa, Williama, Bossanova72, Trompette, Milana, MaBaoLuo, Spierre, Tchoops, (et ceux qui répondront par la suite!^^) merci à tous pour vos contributions😊, je n'espérais pas tant de témoignages et je suis surprise et heureuse de vous lire, celà m'a permis d'avancer dans l'écriture de ma dissertation, de pousser certaines reflexions notamment sur le thème de l'identité du voyageur : on dit toujours que "les voyages forment la jeunesse", et j'avais envie d'explorer cette idée et de l'analyser un peu.
Et puis pour répondre à Tchoops, lorsque tu dis que voyager te permets de retrouver ton regard d'enfant, c'est une impression qui m'avais aussi saisie lors des premières analyses que j'avais fait des récits de Michaux de Nicolas Bouvier, ou encore Jaques Réda . Ce qui parait essentiel c'est de voir quelque chose de nouveau pour l'esprit, pas forcemment pour aller bien loin. Et lorsque l'on développe une attention toute particulière à ce qui nous entoure : rencontres et paysages, on ressent des petits bonheurs simples de l'existence, de brefs instants. Ces instants, j'imagine qu'on peut aussi les ressentir au quotidien, en ayant un mode de vie sédentaire, mais à voir chaque jour les mêmes rues et à cotoyer les mêmes personnes on se lasse malgrés tout.
Dans mon sujet, il était question de "recherche du bonheur", et je crois que ce désir d'ailleurs, de voyage, lorsque l'on décide de vivre une expérience nouvelle et de la vivre avec intensité est un point de départ de cette mythique recherche du bonheur. Pour répondre à Rastazebra, oui, le bonheur c'est bien le truc que tout le monde voudrait atteindre sans réellement savoir ce que c'est😉, il y a beaucoup de definition, certains parlent de sagesses ou de bien, mais il semble que ce soit autant de moyen d'y accéder. Sur le site de wikipedia entre autre, on définit ce terme comme un état de plaisir, mais durable, ce que le plaisir n'offre que pour un temps.
Si d'autres reflexion vous viennent n'hésitez pas à continuer cette discution. Mon prochain sujet portera surement sur l'Inde et son pouvoir de facination 😉
Alors que dire de plus, ... à part bonne route à chacun.
Et puis pour répondre à Tchoops, lorsque tu dis que voyager te permets de retrouver ton regard d'enfant, c'est une impression qui m'avais aussi saisie lors des premières analyses que j'avais fait des récits de Michaux de Nicolas Bouvier, ou encore Jaques Réda . Ce qui parait essentiel c'est de voir quelque chose de nouveau pour l'esprit, pas forcemment pour aller bien loin. Et lorsque l'on développe une attention toute particulière à ce qui nous entoure : rencontres et paysages, on ressent des petits bonheurs simples de l'existence, de brefs instants. Ces instants, j'imagine qu'on peut aussi les ressentir au quotidien, en ayant un mode de vie sédentaire, mais à voir chaque jour les mêmes rues et à cotoyer les mêmes personnes on se lasse malgrés tout.
Dans mon sujet, il était question de "recherche du bonheur", et je crois que ce désir d'ailleurs, de voyage, lorsque l'on décide de vivre une expérience nouvelle et de la vivre avec intensité est un point de départ de cette mythique recherche du bonheur. Pour répondre à Rastazebra, oui, le bonheur c'est bien le truc que tout le monde voudrait atteindre sans réellement savoir ce que c'est😉, il y a beaucoup de definition, certains parlent de sagesses ou de bien, mais il semble que ce soit autant de moyen d'y accéder. Sur le site de wikipedia entre autre, on définit ce terme comme un état de plaisir, mais durable, ce que le plaisir n'offre que pour un temps.
Si d'autres reflexion vous viennent n'hésitez pas à continuer cette discution. Mon prochain sujet portera surement sur l'Inde et son pouvoir de facination 😉
Alors que dire de plus, ... à part bonne route à chacun.
on croit faire un voyage, mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait ou vous défait.
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Nicolas Bouvier L'usage du monde
Voyager est en soi une quête vers son bonheur.
En toute sincèrité, je voyage pour fuir avant tout le quotidien monotone du travail (même si on y trouve parfois quelques bonheurs à son travail). Les voyages cassent la monotonie, et permet de découvrir de nouveaux horizons et de se découvrir soi-même vis à vis des rencontres heureuses ou malheureuses durant le périple. La télévision nous a fait découvrir le monde sur un plateau mais elle nous fait prisonière de son confinement. Voyager nous permet de rencontrer les merveilles (et les malheurs) existantes au dela de nos murs : les beautés de la lacustre Venise, le gigantesque musée de l'architecture à ciel ouvert qu'est Prague, l'impensable et imaginable édifice de la Muraille de Chine, visiter les Twins Tower avant qu'impensable arriva. Déguster des mozartkugeln en hiver et des glaces en été à Swendenplatz de Wien, diner dans un bon restaurant de Firenze. Visiter en amoureux Vérone ou Gyeonju. Profiter simple du soleil de Cannes. Visiter la folkorique principauté de Monaco, et contempler la beauté du Lac Plitvices Et tant d'autres bonheurs si simples pour moi et pourtant si merveilleux. j'aime aussi marcher le long de la Seine, la nuit tombée près de l'île de la Cité. J'aimerais visiter bien plus de choses encore et comme dit Michel Fugain dans l'une des ses chanson "Je n'aurais pas le temps de tout faire. Meme en cent ans je n'aurais pas le temps". Et c'est peut etre cela qui est finalement bien de ne pouvoir tout faire car cela nous donne encore envie de voyager et de rever de voyage. Il y a tant de lieux à visiter... la terre est si vaste et si diverse.^_^
Quand au fait de voyager, seul ou à plusieurs, est aussi agréable mais les moments vécus fort différents ! Voyager seul permet d'avoir un plus grande liberté et autonomie mais on ne peut compter que sur soi pour se débrouiller. Il permet aussi de se découvrir. Voyager entre amis est en général beaucoup plus jovial et festif comme pour les voyages en famille, mais légérement plus modéré, ambiance familiale oblige. Quand aux voyages à deux, rien de plus romantique à mon avis, de plus tranquille et agréable (sauf orages dans l'air). Pour tout les voyages à plusieurs, il y a évidemment moins de liberté (compromis sur les activités des un ou des autres)
En toute sincèrité, je voyage pour fuir avant tout le quotidien monotone du travail (même si on y trouve parfois quelques bonheurs à son travail). Les voyages cassent la monotonie, et permet de découvrir de nouveaux horizons et de se découvrir soi-même vis à vis des rencontres heureuses ou malheureuses durant le périple. La télévision nous a fait découvrir le monde sur un plateau mais elle nous fait prisonière de son confinement. Voyager nous permet de rencontrer les merveilles (et les malheurs) existantes au dela de nos murs : les beautés de la lacustre Venise, le gigantesque musée de l'architecture à ciel ouvert qu'est Prague, l'impensable et imaginable édifice de la Muraille de Chine, visiter les Twins Tower avant qu'impensable arriva. Déguster des mozartkugeln en hiver et des glaces en été à Swendenplatz de Wien, diner dans un bon restaurant de Firenze. Visiter en amoureux Vérone ou Gyeonju. Profiter simple du soleil de Cannes. Visiter la folkorique principauté de Monaco, et contempler la beauté du Lac Plitvices Et tant d'autres bonheurs si simples pour moi et pourtant si merveilleux. j'aime aussi marcher le long de la Seine, la nuit tombée près de l'île de la Cité. J'aimerais visiter bien plus de choses encore et comme dit Michel Fugain dans l'une des ses chanson "Je n'aurais pas le temps de tout faire. Meme en cent ans je n'aurais pas le temps". Et c'est peut etre cela qui est finalement bien de ne pouvoir tout faire car cela nous donne encore envie de voyager et de rever de voyage. Il y a tant de lieux à visiter... la terre est si vaste et si diverse.^_^
Quand au fait de voyager, seul ou à plusieurs, est aussi agréable mais les moments vécus fort différents ! Voyager seul permet d'avoir un plus grande liberté et autonomie mais on ne peut compter que sur soi pour se débrouiller. Il permet aussi de se découvrir. Voyager entre amis est en général beaucoup plus jovial et festif comme pour les voyages en famille, mais légérement plus modéré, ambiance familiale oblige. Quand aux voyages à deux, rien de plus romantique à mon avis, de plus tranquille et agréable (sauf orages dans l'air). Pour tout les voyages à plusieurs, il y a évidemment moins de liberté (compromis sur les activités des un ou des autres)
Bonjourà tous!
C'est enrichissant et un réel plaisir de lire les avis de chacun sur ce sujet
Je me plais de plus en plus sur ce "salon de discussion".
Revenons à nos moutons!
Comment peut-on lier voyage et bonheur? Y goute t-on mieux seul ou à plusieurs?
Pour moi le bonheur est inhérent. Il est interne et dépend peu des éléments extérieurs. On peut aller le chercher loin mais il n'est souvent pas très loin. Il suffit de peu pour gouter au bonheur. On a nul besoin de parcourir le monde pour le toucher. D'ailleurs il diffère d'un individu à l'autre
Voyager ne suffit pas pour être heureux. Le bonheur est une flamme. Il faut déja avoir ce feu en nous. En découvrant les joies et les peines des autres nous entretenons cette chaleur.
Voyager seul ou à plusieurs? Même accompagné on peut être seul. Mais ça je crois que ça a été déja dit.
......Tous les moments de la vie sont bons a vivre même ceux pendant lesquels on a rien et qu'on attend d'avoir....
Jean Giono "Que ma joie demeure"
Jean Giono "Que ma joie demeure"
En quoi le fait de partir nous rend heureux?? alors aussi, en quoi le fait de rester a un endroit nous rend heureux, en quoi faire l amour nous rend heureux, un bon repas entre amis, un joli film, une bonne bouteille de vin, jouer avec des gosses....?? se rapprocher de quelque chose qui ressemble a un momment de bonheur, c est peut etre de suivre son instinct, sans se poser d autres questions...peut etre..pourquoi essayer de tout analyser et tout savoir a tout prix...Mais c est peut etre mon etat d esprit du jour...peut etre demain voudrais je comprendre plus....J aime resumer mes voyages par cette phrase....Vas voir la bas si tu y es......Namaste
Beaucoup de thèmes très interressant dans cette discussions...
Le voyage a aussi cette particularité de n'étre que d'une durée limitée (à plus ou moins grande échelle) dans un espace nouveau (en générale) remplies d'inconnues, de ce fait notre esprit se doit d'étre plus attentif à l'environnement. Et c'est alors que l'on rencontre, découvre, apprend, échange, et s'épanouit. Ce sont chacun de ces états qui pour moi rapprochent d'un état de bonheur.
Abylone
Je partage ton avis, phinetta. Si il y a peut-être quelque chose qui nous rend heureux dans le fait de voyager, ce n'est pas pour autant que ce sont les voyages qui nous rendent heureux. On peut être heureux pour bien des choses. Comme le dit si bien filsdusoleil :
"alors aussi, en quoi le fait de rester a un endroit nous rend heureux, en quoi faire l amour nous rend heureux, un bon repas entre amis, un joli film, une bonne bouteille de vin, jouer avec des gosses....?? se rapprocher de quelque chose qui ressemble a un momment de bonheur, c est peut etre de suivre son instinct, sans se poser d autres questions...peut etre..pourquoi essayer de tout analyser et tout savoir a tout prix..."
Dans les voyages, on prend le temps de s'arrêter pour savourer un instant, un moment particulier qui éveille un peu plus cette flamme qui brûle en nous (pour reprendre les termes de phinetta). Je crois qu'on se donne la peine de vivre à notre rythme, plutôt que de suivre celui des autres ou celui des secondes qui s'écoule comme une poignée de sable dans notre main...On prend simplement un peu plus le temps d'écouter notre coeur que lorsque l'on est chez soi. Si parfois voyages et bonheur semblent être étroitement liés, c'est peut-être parce qu'on réapprend à vivre..et surtout à profiter de cette vie.
Cela dit, en réalité, le voyage n'est pas directement lié au bonheur...Comme tu dis Phinetta : "le bonheur est inhérent"
"alors aussi, en quoi le fait de rester a un endroit nous rend heureux, en quoi faire l amour nous rend heureux, un bon repas entre amis, un joli film, une bonne bouteille de vin, jouer avec des gosses....?? se rapprocher de quelque chose qui ressemble a un momment de bonheur, c est peut etre de suivre son instinct, sans se poser d autres questions...peut etre..pourquoi essayer de tout analyser et tout savoir a tout prix..."
Dans les voyages, on prend le temps de s'arrêter pour savourer un instant, un moment particulier qui éveille un peu plus cette flamme qui brûle en nous (pour reprendre les termes de phinetta). Je crois qu'on se donne la peine de vivre à notre rythme, plutôt que de suivre celui des autres ou celui des secondes qui s'écoule comme une poignée de sable dans notre main...On prend simplement un peu plus le temps d'écouter notre coeur que lorsque l'on est chez soi. Si parfois voyages et bonheur semblent être étroitement liés, c'est peut-être parce qu'on réapprend à vivre..et surtout à profiter de cette vie.
Cela dit, en réalité, le voyage n'est pas directement lié au bonheur...Comme tu dis Phinetta : "le bonheur est inhérent"
citoyen du monde ^^
On prend simplement un peu plus le temps d'écouter notre coeur que lorsque l'on est chez soi. Si parfois voyages et bonheur semblent être étroitement liés, c'est peut-être parce qu'on réapprend à vivre..et surtout à profiter de cette vie.
C'est très bien dit Sûrement on est heureux en voyage parce que comme tu dis nous sommes loin de notre train-train, de nos soucis, nos déceptions et malheurs quotidiens. C'est en cela que parfois voyages et bonheur semblent étroitement se lier, c'est peut-être parce qu'on réapprend à vivre..et surtout à profiter de cette vie (je te cite) ça me rappelle un peu la vie que mène un cheval domestiqué, avec sa vision réduite, ses tâches et ses corvées.. Lâchez-le dans la plaine loin des travaux de toutes sortes et qu'il galope tout son saoûl et son bonheur fera plaisir à voir! Peut-être n'en sommes nous pas si différents.....
C'est très bien dit Sûrement on est heureux en voyage parce que comme tu dis nous sommes loin de notre train-train, de nos soucis, nos déceptions et malheurs quotidiens. C'est en cela que parfois voyages et bonheur semblent étroitement se lier, c'est peut-être parce qu'on réapprend à vivre..et surtout à profiter de cette vie (je te cite) ça me rappelle un peu la vie que mène un cheval domestiqué, avec sa vision réduite, ses tâches et ses corvées.. Lâchez-le dans la plaine loin des travaux de toutes sortes et qu'il galope tout son saoûl et son bonheur fera plaisir à voir! Peut-être n'en sommes nous pas si différents.....
......Tous les moments de la vie sont bons a vivre même ceux pendant lesquels on a rien et qu'on attend d'avoir....
Jean Giono "Que ma joie demeure"
Jean Giono "Que ma joie demeure"
Bonsoir,
Le fait de partir, c'est déjà synonyme de liberté. On casse la routine, on change d'horizon. On part vers l'inconnu, c'est un peu l'aventure. On part dans un lieu où personne ne nous connaît, on est confronté à soi-même, sans nos repères habituels. On oublie où l'on vit habituellement, on s'aére la tête, on a l'impression que toutes nos pensées (bonheur, soucis...) restent à la maison. On rêve, tout simplement, le temps d'un voyage.
Le fait de partir, c'est déjà synonyme de liberté. On casse la routine, on change d'horizon. On part vers l'inconnu, c'est un peu l'aventure. On part dans un lieu où personne ne nous connaît, on est confronté à soi-même, sans nos repères habituels. On oublie où l'on vit habituellement, on s'aére la tête, on a l'impression que toutes nos pensées (bonheur, soucis...) restent à la maison. On rêve, tout simplement, le temps d'un voyage.
Je ne suis pas sure que le voyage me rende plus heureuse, quand je le suis déjà....mais il m'émerveille et comme l'on dit d'autres, il le fait à la manière des enfants découvrant le "monde"...Il m'a permis de me forger une banque de données intérieures, qui me permet de m'évader (quand le quotidien est pesant...), de rever et parfois de sourire en évoquant des souvenirs.
Je voyage avec qui moi-même ou avec qui souhaite être présent à mes côtés.
Je voyage avec qui moi-même ou avec qui souhaite être présent à mes côtés.
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Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)