cyclocampeur depuis pas mal d'années, j'utilise un vtt classique très "slopping". Ca me pose deux problèmes, il n'est pas du tout roulant (chasse trop courte) et le slopping pose problème pour mettre un siège bébé.
Comme j'ai déjà tout l'équipement en 26", je cherche juste à changer le cadre. Mais en France il n'y a pas tellement le choix pour avoir un cadre à géométrie rando en 26" acier, sauf à se payer un sur-mesure... Rando-cycle propose un cadre villiger à moins de 500euros qui semblerait convenir, mais je n'ais pas le courrage d'aller voir sur place à Paris (je suis dans l'aveyron).
Est-ce que des voyageurs par ici ont pu essayer ce cadre ? D'autres solutions ?
salut wilk
j'ai hésité entre un cadre de t400 ( vendu par la maison du vélo à bruxelles ) et le cadre villiger repeint par rando cycles . à vrai dire, le cadre de RC est un peu plus cher ( environ 100 euros de + ) mais, ça m'évitait d'aller en belgique, de plus chez RC tu peux choisir la couleur de ton cadre. ça n'est pas vraiment utile, mais qd tu depense 500 euros ( je precise que la potence et le jeu de direction aheadset est compris ds le forfait prix ), tu es content de te faire en plus plaisir en choisissant la couleur de ton choix...😉; le delai est en général de 2-3 semaines.
bon pour l'instant je n'ai pas encore eu trop l'occasion de m'en servir sur des pistes défonçées, mais mon avis est tres positif . tu as pas mal de trous partout pour les portes bagages, gardes boues, gourdes. ce qui est vraiment pratique !
voila j'espere avoir repondu a ta question.
jerome
Merci, effectivement le fait d'avoir des attaches un peu partout est un plus, surtout que je compte en faire rajouter éventuellement d'autres :-)
Au niveau géométrie la différence est-elle vraiment flagrante par rapport à un cadre de vtt classique (on peut lacher le guidon par ex) ?
Comme c'est apparement un "vieux stock" de villiger, est-ce qu'il n'y a pas de problème de compatibilité avec les pièces actuelles ? Par ex l'écartement des haubans est-il suffisant pour une roue de 8v ?
non pas de probleme pour monter les pieces actuelles ...
qd tu dis roue de 8V, parles tu des vitesses? si oui, j'ai une cassette de 9V et ça passe tres bien.
la geometrie du cadre n'est pas identique a celle d'un VTT. la position de conduite est un peu plus assise. mais c'est mieux pour les longs trajets je trouve. oui tu peux lacher les mains si tu veux !!😉
Pas moin de l'Aveyron, Montauban:
GUIONNET CYCLO SPORT
Avenue d'Irlande
82000 MONTAUBAN
Ils ont peut-âtre quelque chose pour toi, c'est un magasin ou on trouve du matos rando.
Sinon, renseigne toi, il y a forcement un artisan cadreur de bon niveau pas trop loin de chez toi. Et les prix ne sont pas les même que ceux des "têtes" d'affiche de la randonnée
Je viens de les contacter mais ils ne font que du sur mesure pour ce genre de chose et c'est à peu près les mêmes tarifs qu'ailleur (1000e mini le cadre).
D'après eux (très sympathiques), il n'y aurait pas (encore?) de marché suffisant pour importer des cadres de série de ce type...
J'ail l'impression de ne pas avoir bcp de choix, (ce qui n'est peut-être pas plus mal d'ailleur).
😉tu peux essayer de faire les vide greniers pour trouver un cadre des 1° VTT(Giant sierra ou Coldrock ou MBK...un peu lourd mais super pour le vélo chargé...). Gils
Bonjour,
et bien pas mal votre site et les petites infos qui si trouvent !
pour le cadre villiger de Chez Rando-Cycles .
et bien comme celui si a une geometrie un peu particuliere
les 2 tubes latérale qui relie le triangle principale a la roue soudé sur les cotés du tube principale (tube sur le quel on met la tige de selle ) par rapport a un triangle classique
j'espere que vous comprenez mon explication ?
et bien je voulais savoir si pour vous c'etait plutot un handicape ( + fragile ) ou pas
du tout .
car en generale pour un velo de voyage, villiger avait le modele cabonga (une rolls )
mais + dispo chez rando
alors je voulais savoir si vous etes satisfait de votre cadre, solidité, confort
et roulant
Je vois pas trop pourquoi cette géométrie poserait problème... Je ne pourrai hélas dire s'il n'est pas assez que s'il casse !
Sinon, la géométrie est un poil moins roulante que le surly (qui lui est vraiment très roulant), mais inversement il est plus maniable en ville et en chemin, et avec les saccoches on ne voit pas la différence...
Donc pour l'instant, rien à redire. Je n'ai pas non plus encore beaucoup d'expérience avec, tout ce que je peux dire c'est que c'est le jour et la nuit avec le VTT qu'on avait avant !
Merci
c'est pas que la geometrie, mais les 2 tubes latéral qui me pose probleme
je me demande si cela fragilise pas le cadre de les avoir soudé ainsi
c'est juste une question, j'ai mis une photo pour voir la conception
un peu particuliere par rapport a une conception + classique .
Merci
Je ne vois pas pourquoi... En tout cas le vendeur de chez rando m'a certifié que ces cadres étaient aussi solides que leur cadres sur mesure. Etonnant non de la part de quelqu'un qui a la réputation d'être très vendeur ? Par contre ils ne sont pas disponibles en beaucoup de tailles.
ok d'accord moi aussi il ma dit qu'il etait aussi solide
que les cadres sur mesure, je pense que l'on peu lui faire confiance, il connait son job ! de plus il m'a pas pousser a la consomation .
je voulais juste avoir des infos, comme tu as deja le velo et que tu la deja testé .
moi j'ai passer commande et je voulais avoir un maximum d'infos, comme le velo a une geometrie un peu particuliere, cela cout rien de demmander l'avis de ceux qui l'utilise deja le velo .
cordialement votre !
Je ne connais pas ce genre de vélo mais lorsque rando cycles vous dit qu'un vélo de série est aussi solide que leur vélos sur mesure, c'est peut etre vrai, peut etre pas.... il faut bien comprendre que pour un artisan il devient beaucoup plus rentable d'acheter des cadres de série en acier dans des pays comme taiwan, la chine ou d'autres et de les revendre plutot que de monter un cadre en france.... assembler un cadre en acier demande facilement 15-20 h de travail..... ce qui n'est pas forcément très rentable aujourd'hui, parce que on est a l'époque de la rentabilité dans le commerce..... au détriment de la qualité de service ; c'est un vendeur qui vous le dit..... (triste constat d'ailleurs....) un artisan gagne peut etre plus d'argent en vendant un cadre de série a 500 euros qu'en montant un cadre sur mesure a 1000 euros..... ces cadres de série sont peut etre aussi fiables qu'un cadre qui serait assemblée par rando cycles mais comment le vendeur de rando cycle peut-il le savoir??? Ont-ils de réels retours d'expériences de ces cadres de série??
L'idéal est de trouver des utilisateurs pour juger de la fiabilité!!!!! C'est en cela que les forums trouvent tout leur interet!!!!!!
Et pour connaitre un ami qui s'est entièrement équipé chez rando cycles, ils sont comme tous les vendeurs dignent de ce nom, ils poussent un peu a la consommation! posez vous les bonnes questions lorsque on vous conseille du matériel.... "en ai-je vraiment besoin?????"....
Tu as hélas sûrement bien raison sur le fond, un vendeur va privilégier ce sur quoi il gagne le plus. Mais si on peut lui faire confiance c'est d'une part parcequ'il a une certaine expérience dans les cadres de vélo et que d'autre part sa réputation est en jeu, hors il ne vend que grace à sa réputation... La risquer sur des cadres à 450 euros (peinture au choix comprise) ce serait vraiment du suicide !
Pour le coup c'est quand même des cadres villiger qui ont déjà très bonne réputation.
Sur la question "en ais-je vraiment besoin ?". D'un bon cadre, oui ! Ca n'a rien à voir avec un VTT, c'est plus agréable, on fatigue moins, c'est solide, y a toutes les fixations etc... Hors, en France du moins, a ce prix là a-t'on vraiment le choix ? A part le surly je n'ai rien trouvé d'autre...
Quand a pousser à la consommation, pour ma part j'étais parti pour prendre des roues avec (et autres s'il me l'avait conseillé) et finalement je n'ai pris que le cadre, en revanche j'ai pris pleins de bons conseils pour le même prix !
I’d been watching this ultra-light travel movement or trend for a while.
So I gave it a try—goodbye to the 5 panniers and rear racks.
A 15L saddle bag for clothes and a stove cookset.
Two cages on the fork blades: 2x5L—mattress on one side, tent on the other.
A 5L frame bag for miscellaneous items: battery, camera, small bits and pieces.
And one on the handlebar for the sleeping bag.
I tested it this summer on a crossing from Valence to Perpignan via the Massif Central.
My conclusions:
The obvious advantage is the reduced weight. In total, I had 12 kg on the bike, which makes climbing in the mountains much easier.
Another benefit I hadn’t considered is the significantly lower wind resistance compared to a traditional setup—you really feel it when the wind’s against you.
Of course, it’s not all perfect...
For example, it’s impossible to carry a food stock. You buy just enough before each meal or go to a restaurant!
You also have to accept a more spartan comfort level at stops.
In conclusion, I think for summer trips in regions where resupplying is easy, it’s an interesting option—especially if there’s significant elevation gain.
On the other hand, it doesn’t allow for enough autonomy, so some trips are off the table.
On the bike side, I swapped my Shimano 11/34 cassette for an 11/40. Even though Shimano doesn’t recommend it with a 105 derailleur and a 46/30 double chainring, it works really well.
The only limit is avoiding the 46/40 gear ratio.
Hi,
what are the easiest ways to get back from Nordkapp without pedaling—
train, boat, or plane?
Has anyone already done this?
Thanks for sharing your tips!
Hi, does anyone have recent info on the Shikoku pilgrimage? We’re traveling as a pair by bike, and I plan to camp whenever possible because from what I’ve seen, accommodations are pretty expensive, especially for long trips. I’d love any info or tips—thanks in advance! Aichatou
I’m planning to leave Nice for Toulouse around 10/15 and I’m looking for tips / great deals regarding:
- The route: I was thinking of taking Nice - Grasse - Draguignan - Salernes - Cadarache - Cavaillon - Arles, then the Camargue, Sète, and the Canal du Midi to Toulouse. The idea is to avoid high-traffic roads and too many steep climbs. Are there any spots to avoid or must-see stops? Since it’s been a while since I’ve been on the road, I was thinking that sleeping indoors might be preferable. If you have any budget-friendly accommodation suggestions along part of the route, don’t hesitate!
Thanks in advance, and if you’re in the area around that time, we could ride together... Ciao.
Hi,
I need to arrive in Thessaloniki by bike at the end of September and I plan to head to Istanbul along the coast.
Could anyone help me pick the best route? Safety, difficulty.
Thanks in advance.
Marc
Hi everyone! Thanks for welcoming me to the forum :)
I’m preparing for a long trip heading to Nepal, with stops along the way depending on my mood, work needs, and the season. I cycle a lot, but this will be my first big touring adventure. I’d like to camp regularly to keep costs down, so I’ll be riding on all kinds of surfaces: smooth and rough roads, main highways and rocky paths to find my camping spots, flat terrain and the occasional steep slopes.
For my bike model, I’m prioritizing durability, versatility, and repairability. From that perspective, I prefer a steel frame and fork with rim brakes since I’m used to them. I’ve narrowed my choices down to four models:
- The VSF Fahrradmanufaktur T-700 LTD (1400 €): steel frame, aluminum fork, hydraulic rim brakes, 28" wheels, 40mm tires, 36 spokes (2 mm), lightweight rear rack (max 20 kg), no front rack included, smallest gear ratio of 0.72, weight of 13.9 kg.
- The VSF Fahrradmanufaktur TX-400 (2200 €): steel frame and fork, hydraulic rim brakes, 26" wheels, 50mm tires, 36 spokes (2.34 mm), front and rear racks included (40+18 kg), smallest gear ratio of 0.71, weight of 15.9 kg.
- The Genesis Tour de Fer 30 (2150 €): steel frame and fork, mechanical disc brakes, 28" wheels, 36 spokes, 40mm tires, front and rear racks included (27+10 kg), smallest gear ratio of 0.77, weight of 15.9 kg.
- The Rockrider ADTV 900 from Decathlon (1700 €): aluminum frame and fork, mechanical disc brakes, USB port, 28" wheels, 47mm tires, 28 spokes, front and rear racks included (40+20 kg), smallest gear ratio of 0.71, weight of 17.1 kg. This is the successor to the Riverside Touring 900, which was a hit.
I’ve got a few questions:
1/ Should I go for 26" or 28" wheels for my trip? 26" wheels seem better for rough terrain, but 28" wheels feel more comfortable on roads. I’ve also read that 26" tires/tubes are easier to find.
2/ Do you recommend a steel frame and fork over aluminum? I’m guessing a high-quality aluminum frame and fork would be better than a low-quality steel one, right?
3/ Regarding the smallest gear ratio, is 0.71 a good number for a loaded bike in the mountains?
4/ Finally, what do you think of these four models for my project? My heart leans toward the TX-400—it seems to combine the versatility and robustness I’m looking for. But the price difference with the T-700 LTD is making me think twice!
Thanks so much for reading and sharing your thoughts!
17 days, 1,400 km, and 17,500 m of elevation gain cycling in northern Vietnam! 🇻🇳 🚴🇻🇳
From the misty Fansipan to the breathtaking landscapes of the Ha Giang Loop, from remote villages to vibrant markets...
I cycled through the north of the country, getting up close with its people—through mud, heat, endless mountain passes, and unforgettable encounters.
Most importantly, I discovered a Vietnam far different from the usual tourist circuits.
Join me on this adventure through a video that captures these 17 days of travel. :)
If Vietnam calls to you, come ride a stretch with me!
Hi,
can anyone give us some tips on how to get to North Cape from Lyon Gerland?
What’s the best route to join the EuroVelo 7?
How many kilometers is it from Lyon to North Cape via EuroVelo 7?
The best month to leave—we’re thinking early May.
Thanks for any advice!
Looking for a female travel companion for a cycling trip (arriving by plane in Porto Alegre, Brazil, and cycling toward Montevideo, Uruguay, returning by plane to France from Buenos Aires, Argentina) – 1,500 km
Hello everyone!
I’m planning a cycling trip across Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina, with a departure set for late October, November, or December. I’m looking for a travel companion to share this long-distance adventure with.
Experience:
I already have solid experience in bicycle touring in Georgia, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan. Currently, I maintain excellent physical condition by cycling an average of 250 km over 3 days per week (4 hours a day at 20 km/h).
The trip & the pace:
Daily pace: Between 50 and 80 km per day, to make steady progress while taking time to explore.
Accommodation: Flexible and authentic. We’ll alternate between wild camping, campsites, Warmshowers, small guesthouses, and budget hotels depending on opportunities and the weather.
Looking forward to reading your message and planning this amazing journey together!
Another long-time dream of Claudio’s: the Petit Mont Cenis pass and the dam at the eponymous lake.
A place where many Italians, including my father, worked in the 1950s–60s.
Faverges → St-Michel-de-Maurienne → Lanslebourg → Petit Mont Cenis → return. 315 km, 3 days. Bivouac at St-Michel-de-M.
Brouter link
Leg One: Faverges → St-Michel-de-Maurienne
Leg Two: St-Michel → Lanslebourg → Mont Cenis Lake → St-Michel
Leg Three: St-Michel → Faverges
And it finally happened in August 2026: in the Maurienne Valley about the famous cycle route known as the V67
🇷🇼 Cycling in Rwanda: 4 episodes, an off-the-beaten-path adventure
After 3 weeks and nearly 1,200 km by bike across Rwanda, I made 4 videos to share this adventure in a different way: the landscapes, the encounters, the villages… but above all, all those incredible scenes of everyday life.
The 4 episodes are available here:
👉 https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGnfbxjccWAg
The 4th episode focuses on rural Rwandan life: simple, authentic, and sometimes surprising scenes that you only truly discover when you take the time to travel by bike.
If you have a few minutes, let yourself be transported to Rwanda…
Hi,
We bought the MSR bike tent model (2-person + large awning that can fit 2 bikes) back in 2005. It’s served us really well, especially during a year-long trip in Africa. Now, one of the poles is broken, and we’d love to replace it since that’s the only issue with the tent—we still love it! The poles are 9.35 mm in diameter, with 8 sections of 49 cm and 2 sections of 28 cm. Total length when assembled: 416 cm. Actually, two large sections are broken: one straight and one curved. It’s a pain to find replacements since this model is no longer sold anywhere.
Would anyone have this model lying around unused and be willing to sell me a pole?
Hi everyone,
In early April, I’m redoing the Vélo Francette (La Rochelle to Ouistreham), and then I’d like to cycle along the Cotentin Peninsula (which I don’t know at all), follow the coast up to Cherbourg, and then head back down to at least Saint-Malo. I’d love to know if it’s pleasant for cycling—are the roads nice? Not too windy? What are the must-see spots? Any great campsites? All your tips and advice are more than welcome, and I thank you in advance.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
I just took a trip in Tunisia from Tozeur to Douz, skirting Chott el Jerid to the south. I’m back with the urge to keep going further south via the 4x4 tracks to connect Douz to Ksar Ghilane. Has anyone driven this route recently or explored southern Tunisia?
Thanks for your tips!
fix
😎Fellow traveling cyclists or not, all of you who love travel, the pleasure of physical effort, nature, beautiful machines, people with true passions they seek to fulfill, and who also enjoy reading great literature about all this—the *200* magazine is for you just as it is for me. I should mention I have no financial or other interest in this (in an era where we accuse our politicians of all sorts of vile interests, I prefer to take precautions). I’ve been subscribed since the beginning, and every three months, I get my 130 pages of dreams (the magazine just went from 110 to 130 pages).
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc
PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.