C'est la première fois que nous partons en chine c'est un voyage de 15 jours (couple avec un enfant), on voudrait quelques infos, les formalités, les hotels moins cher ou chez l'habitat, endroit à faire et à éviter en Chine. On part pour pékin en 2008 donc j'ai le temps d'économisé, le problème c'est que le mois que nous avons décidés de partir tombe pendant les Jeux Olympiques de Pékin à Beijing (corrigez-moi si c'est pas ça le nom) et peut-être nous allons faire un tour dans un stade pendant les J.O (puisqu'on est là bas tant cas faire hein !!!). Je rassure tout le monde on reste pas sur Pékin, on voudrait visiter un peu partout. Est-ce qu'il faut s'y prendre des années à l'avance ou pas pour organiser notre voyage ?
Pékin 2008
by MeL1
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
C'est la première fois que nous partons en chine c'est un voyage de 15 jours (couple avec un enfant), on voudrait quelques infos, les formalités, les hotels moins cher ou chez l'habitat, endroit à faire et à éviter en Chine. On part pour pékin en 2008 donc j'ai le temps d'économisé, le problème c'est que le mois que nous avons décidés de partir tombe pendant les Jeux Olympiques de Pékin à Beijing (corrigez-moi si c'est pas ça le nom) et peut-être nous allons faire un tour dans un stade pendant les J.O (puisqu'on est là bas tant cas faire hein !!!). Je rassure tout le monde on reste pas sur Pékin, on voudrait visiter un peu partout. Est-ce qu'il faut s'y prendre des années à l'avance ou pas pour organiser notre voyage ?
C'est la première fois que nous partons en chine c'est un voyage de 15 jours (couple avec un enfant), on voudrait quelques infos, les formalités, les hotels moins cher ou chez l'habitat, endroit à faire et à éviter en Chine. On part pour pékin en 2008 donc j'ai le temps d'économisé, le problème c'est que le mois que nous avons décidés de partir tombe pendant les Jeux Olympiques de Pékin à Beijing (corrigez-moi si c'est pas ça le nom) et peut-être nous allons faire un tour dans un stade pendant les J.O (puisqu'on est là bas tant cas faire hein !!!). Je rassure tout le monde on reste pas sur Pékin, on voudrait visiter un peu partout. Est-ce qu'il faut s'y prendre des années à l'avance ou pas pour organiser notre voyage ?
Mélanie
Les JO à Pékin en 2008.....
Pas besoin de t'y prendre DES ANNEES à l'avance, mais il faudra réserver les hotels au moins quelques mois avant, ainsi que les transports. Le prix des hotels aura sans doute doublé durant cette période.
Bon, il y aura quand même moins de touristes que de Chinois, mais Pékin ne sera pas vraiment Pékin.
Je suis pour une fois bien content d'une victoire sportive anglaise : pour celui qui voudra assister aux JO en 2012, un aller-retour en Eurostar coûtera moins cher que les impôts supplémentaires qu'on aurait payé pour faire monter les actions de Coca Cola. Si la mairie de Paris veut construire des équipements, elle n'a pas besoin de l'alibi olympique pour le faire
Je suis pour une fois bien content d'une victoire sportive anglaise : pour celui qui voudra assister aux JO en 2012, un aller-retour en Eurostar coûtera moins cher que les impôts supplémentaires qu'on aurait payé pour faire monter les actions de Coca Cola. Si la mairie de Paris veut construire des équipements, elle n'a pas besoin de l'alibi olympique pour le faire
ChR
Pendant les periodes a grande influence (vacance, organisation sprotive, ...) les prix augmentent considerablement.
Ils en profitent que tout le monde souhaite un hotel pour mettre les prix au plus haut. Et cela est valable egalement pour les transports.
Pour les transports si tu ne reserve pas a l'ouverture de la vente des billets (t'inquiette pas, tu pourras toujours entrer dans le train, meme si c'est complet) mais pendant xxxheures tu devras rester debout.
Et quant a dormir a l'hotel ou chez l'habitant... Chez l'habitant il faut pas trop esperer, c'est quelque chose qui reste rare, du fait que les hotels quand on va dormir la bas remplisse un papier qui remettent a la police la plus proche, l'habitant ne le fait pas. Aussi bien toi et lui peuvent avoir des problems.
Un etranger(ou pas etranger) quand il dort quelque part, "theoriquement" doit toujours aller au bureau de police le plus proche pour leur donner l'adresse de logement.
Bon les hotels font cela par eux meme tout le temps.
excepte cela, le fait que tres peut d'habitant vont proposer de dormir chez eux (a faire attention).
Pour ce qui est de preparer longtemp a l'avance, non, ce n'est pas la peine, contrairement a ce qu'on peu y penser, ce n'est pas que le tier monde ici au contraire. Tu peux meme rencontrer dans des grandes ville des endroit bien plus en avance qu'en sainte france.
Je veut dire par la, que le premier problem c'est la langue, mais que apres tout est bien organise ! Les bus sont tres bien, les train aussi, ...
(eviter de faire comme moi et de prendre un bus avec des sieges en bois car c'etait moin chers, ca vous arrache le dos, c'est horrible. Mais tres bien pour de courte distance).
La ceremonie d'ouverture des Jeux Olympiques est prevue le 08/08/2008, a 08h du soir... superstition chinoise oblige!
Salut je vis actuellement a Beijing pour y apprendre la langue donc je loge sur lcampus de la fac. Mais j'ai tout de meme passe 10 jours a l'hotel avant d'entrer a la fac et ce que j'ai pu voir c'est que tout est beaucoup moins cher qu'en france. Par exmple un hotel 5 etoiles fera payer la chambre pour la nuit environ 200 euros ce qui n'est franchement pas excessif compare aux tarifs francais. En revanche je conseille de ne pas aller dans des hotels moins de 3 etoiles si vous allez a l'hotel car la proprete n'est pas le point fort.
Pour ce qui est du visa suivant le periode ou vous le demandez cela peut vour prendre 24h a une semaine pour avoir le visa touristique valable deux mois (et non trois comme dans la plupart des pays). Les prix est tres bons marche environ 50 euros.
Pour ce qui est du visa suivant le periode ou vous le demandez cela peut vour prendre 24h a une semaine pour avoir le visa touristique valable deux mois (et non trois comme dans la plupart des pays). Les prix est tres bons marche environ 50 euros.
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die tomorrow"
Les hôtels de Pékin sont plutôt cher. Evidemment, plus on s'éloigne du centre plus les prix diminuent, mais ça reste cher pour la Chine. Je sais que pour les jeux ils vont construire beaucoup beaucoup de nouveaux hotels et de moyen de transport pour y accéder mais ça va rester cher. Pékin est une ville qui s'étend à perte de vue, c'est incroyable. http://www.chine-nouvelle.com/pekin2008
Bonjour...
A 200 euros en France, on a quand même un super hôtel.... A Cannes, je ne sais pas, mais ailleurs, il faut déjà le trouver l'hôtel à ce prix-là....
Les hôtels simples en Chine sont en général très corrects, et la propreté est rarement un problème.
M'enfin comme vous trouvez aussi que 50 euros pour un visa, c'est très bon marché, je crois que nous n'avons pas les mêmes valeurs !
Michel
A 200 euros en France, on a quand même un super hôtel.... A Cannes, je ne sais pas, mais ailleurs, il faut déjà le trouver l'hôtel à ce prix-là....
Les hôtels simples en Chine sont en général très corrects, et la propreté est rarement un problème.
M'enfin comme vous trouvez aussi que 50 euros pour un visa, c'est très bon marché, je crois que nous n'avons pas les mêmes valeurs !
Michel
Eh bien je n'ai jamais dit qu'un hotel a moins de 200 euros la nuit en france n'etait pas bien. J'ai 24 ans et je sors des etudes donc je n'ai pas les moyens de me payer des hotels chers. Donc ce n'est pas une question de valeurs. De plus ja parle des hotels de Pekin pas d'ailleurs car je ne suis pas allee dans d'autres villes.
Je suis actuellement en Chine avec un Visa Affaires que j'ai eu pour 50 euros. Impossible d'en avoir un a ce prix la pour les USA. Non objectivement le niveau de vie (financierement parlant) est plus bas en Chine que en France. Je dis en general car bien sur il y a toujours des gens qui gagnent mieux leur vie que d'autres.
Mais je suis sure que si vous alliez la bas, tout vous paraitrait nettement moins cher.
"Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die tomorrow"
Bonjour,
Je ne vous ai pas attendu pour aller en Chine ni pour y avoir des amis...
Il me semble un peu naîf de lier à l'âge le fait d'aller ou non dans des palaces à 200 euros ; bien sûr que si, c'est une question de valeurs et d'état d'esprit que d'aller ou non dans des endroits ou des financiers véreux et d'ancien apparatchiks reconvertis trimballent des prostituées dans des casinos ou ils perdent en une heure des années de salaire d'un paysan.
Michel
Je ne vous ai pas attendu pour aller en Chine ni pour y avoir des amis...
Il me semble un peu naîf de lier à l'âge le fait d'aller ou non dans des palaces à 200 euros ; bien sûr que si, c'est une question de valeurs et d'état d'esprit que d'aller ou non dans des endroits ou des financiers véreux et d'ancien apparatchiks reconvertis trimballent des prostituées dans des casinos ou ils perdent en une heure des années de salaire d'un paysan.
Michel
Ben voyons....
"chacun sa vie chacun ses moyens..."
Parce qu'un escroc, exploiteur de la population, qui parade dans des casinos avec des call girls, dépensant des années de salaire de paysans, vous trouvez que c'est juste la logique des choses et l'ordre légitime du monde ?.....
Michel
"chacun sa vie chacun ses moyens..."
Parce qu'un escroc, exploiteur de la population, qui parade dans des casinos avec des call girls, dépensant des années de salaire de paysans, vous trouvez que c'est juste la logique des choses et l'ordre légitime du monde ?.....
Michel
Oui bien sûr....
Je pense que les hôtels vont doubler au moins leurs prix pour les JO et qu'il faudra réserver environ 3 mois à l'avance. Et en Chine il n'y a guère de palace à 200 euros... ça fait 230 US$... 2000 Rmb.... Une fortune... Les cinq étoiles à Pekin atteignent parfois cette somme, mais pour des suites, les chambres simples sont entre 70 et 100 US$ en général.
Michel
Je pense que les hôtels vont doubler au moins leurs prix pour les JO et qu'il faudra réserver environ 3 mois à l'avance. Et en Chine il n'y a guère de palace à 200 euros... ça fait 230 US$... 2000 Rmb.... Une fortune... Les cinq étoiles à Pekin atteignent parfois cette somme, mais pour des suites, les chambres simples sont entre 70 et 100 US$ en général.
Michel
- soit tu organises ton séjour seul ; Pour les hôtels, je sais que bon nombre d'entreprises ont résevé des hôtels entiers, en prévision. Le taux de remplissage est donc déjà très avancé. 2 solutions face à ce phénomène : attendre que les entreprises libèrent des places (tout à fait possible) ou attendre la livraison de nouveaux hôtels sur Pékin (bon nombre sont encore en construction mais on peut penser que des options ont déjà été posées dessus). soit tu passes par un TO pour des packages vol + hôtel à Pékin lors des JO 2008, lesquels ont déjà les hôtels et les vols réservés et te proposent des circuits sur Pékin et autres villes majeures. Ce qui te permet de découvrir la Chine en te laissant libre de trouver des billets pour assister aux épreuves.
Voilà maintenant 5 mois que je suis revenu de Chine.
A Pekin, j'ai eu un coup de coeur pour le parc Beihai.
C'est un endroit habrite un temple boudhiste, entouré de lac couvert pas des lotus. Tu peux manger sur place dans un restaurant, dont je ne me souviens plus du nom, c'est assez cher (30 euros le menu) mais tu y gouteras la cuisine impérial dans un cadre somptueux. A l'extérieur du parc, tu pourras te balader dans les quartiers pittoresques nommés hutongs. Sinon, au sud de la ville, tu peux visiter le temple du ciel, c'est moins connu que la cité interdite et le palais d'été mais ça vaut vraiment le détour.
Quant au palais d'été, endroit incontournable, il faut vraiment rester une journée complète pour avoir le temps de se promener dans le parc et aller à la rencontre des Chinois( Si vous le voulez vous pouvez vous baigner dans les lac comme le font les habitants de Pékin). Je te conseil de prendre un hôtel dans les hutongs ou non loin car là-bas c'est assez calme et on se sent comme en vacances.
Une adresse utile pour avoir un bon prix sur les billets d'avion.
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Il y a tant de choses à voir et à découvrir en Chine. Si tu as d'autres questions n'hésites pas. Edwud à votre service.
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I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?