voilà, j'ai une nouvelle question pour les spécialistes de la Chine. Dans le guide LP correspondant, et sur d'autres sites j'ai trouvé l'info qu'on peut s'arreter (descendre du train), puis remonter pour finir son voyage et que l'on avait le droit à un certains nombres de jours pour cela, selon la distance parcourue apparemment.
donc, si par exemple je souhaite prendre un train de pékin à kunming, puis-je m'arreter à Chengdu 1 ou 2 jours et reprendre un train avec le mm billet sans aucun soucis?
merci donc de confirmer ou d'infirmer cette info... (qui ferait gagner des sous! ;-))
p.s: y a t'il beaucoup de fumeurs dans les trains couchettes chinois ou peut-on "respirer" sans soucis?
🙂
"Les folies sont les seules choses qu'on ne regrette jamais" O.Wilde
J'ai lu la même info que toi dans le LP, mais prendre un billet de train dans une gare est parfois une entreprise difficile pour qui ne parle pas chinois, aussi, je prends mon billet pour la destination immédiate et de là, je reprends un billet pour la suivante
J'achète mes billets par l'intermédiaire des hotels ou des CITS. Bien sûr, je paie une commission, qui, quand on regarde bien n'est pas très élevée (de l'ordre de 3 ou 4 euros par billet), mais je préfère me balader ou siroter une bière plutôt que de passer 2 heures dans une gare à faire la queue à un guichet qui n'est pas toujours le bon.
La fumée dans les trains couchette, OUI !!!!! Hélas !! Et même beaucoup.... Il parait cependant que récemment, on a interdit de fumer ailleurs qu'en début ou fin de wagon, mais je ne suis pas sûr que cette interdiction soit respectée. Ne supportant pas non plus la fumée, je suis obligé de voyager en soft sleepers où là, l'interdiction est respectée.
Les billets achetés auprès d'intermédiaires, les 1° classes en train.... On va croire que je suis plein aux as.....
Sa c'est sur, attention tu te dirige tous droit vers le all inclusive ..., simpas tes infos ..., bon faut que je trouve mon fameut thomas cook pour les horraire et les liaison et j'arrive (enfin en septembre !!!)
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Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Que veux-tu, avec l'âge, on devient paresseux. Et dans les gares, il fait chaud alors que dehors, la bière est fraîche .....
Blague à part, j'ai eu tellement de galères dans les gares chinoises, avec des foires d'empoigne pour acheter un billet face à un employé ne parlant pas anglais et y mettant souvent de la mauvaise volonté (ils sont parfois pires qu'aux guichets de la SNCF). Dernièrement, 2 heures de queue à Hohhot, puis, baladé d'un guichet à un autre, pour finalement renoncer et acheter mon billet à l'hotel
Pour les horaires, quelqu'un a donné un site il y a quelques jours avec les principales destinations. Mais si tu retrouves Thomas Cook, je suis preneur.
Ouais bas la prochaine fois que je remonte a Paris (St Lazard, j'en prend un je voit ce que sa donne et je vous propose de passé commande si sa vous interesse ....
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Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
oui lol, c'est d'ailleurs moi qui ait donné les sites avec les horaires.
je suis en train de penser que je vais plutot demander à mon amie chinoise qu'elle me renseigne pour les billets de trains et leurs validité. et pour le tabac aussi 😉
c'est clair que je ne supporte pas la fumée (enfin un peu ça va, mais ne plus voir clair tellement y en a, non), mais je n'ai pas le budget de voyager en couchettes molles....
ah la la terrible dilemne.
sinon, excusez la question peut-etre con, mais ya quoi dans ce Thomas Cook, et on le trouve qu'à St Lazare?
"Les folies sont les seules choses qu'on ne regrette jamais" O.Wilde
concernant les arrêts, elle n'a jamais voyagé comme ça. mais elle a demandé à un ami à elle (chinois aussi, évidemment), et il a dit que c'était possible, mais que souvent, dans le 2° train, tu devais voyager debout, enfin s'il n'y a pas d'autres places... donc pas terrible :-(. elle a dit qu'il fallait se renseigner avec les employés.... (donc la galère lol)
ensuite elle m'a dit que oui il y avait beaucoup de fumée (reconfirmation donc).
au fait, dans ces fameux guides (pour ne pas les citer), certains disent que la nourriture dans les trains est déguelasse, d'autres assez bonne, qu'en est-il (rmq peut-etre qu'en 1° classe c'est meilleur lolllll!!)
"Les folies sont les seules choses qu'on ne regrette jamais" O.Wilde
Concernant le Cook, c'est l'annuaire de tous les train du monde avec leurs arret et les horaire ..., c'est super pratique quand tu as pas tous le temps internet avec toi (y'as aussi pour les bateaux ...)
J'ai trouver celui sur l'europe à St Lazard dans un bureau de change thomas cook, mais après j'en est jammais revue, faut peut être demandé dans les agence de voyage du même non, mais je doute, ce sont d'ancienne agence havas ...
Je le trouve un peu volumineut, mais quand même bien pratique ... @+
Philo
"J'ai refait tous les calculs, notre projet est irréalisable, il ne nous reste plus qu'une chose à faire, le réaliser". Latecoere
dyslexique
Le problème en Chine c'est que pour ceux qui parlent chinois, tout est assez facile, et c'est vrai. Mais quand on ne parle que l'anglais, les difficultés liées à l'incompréhension mutuelle font perdre beaucoup de temps (à l'inverse, imaginez un Chinois seul, ne parlant pas français essayant d'acheter un billet de train dans la gare d'un chef lieu de canton...)
sinon, peut-on aller de kunming à hekou (la dernière ville chinoise avant la frontière) puisqu'apparemment c'est la partie du trajet la plus belle, puis revenir sur kunming...
je ne trouve aucunes infos sur hekou dans les guides.
(je sais lol, je suis chiante avec les questions surtout que c'est de moins en moins sur que je parte cet été...)
"Les folies sont les seules choses qu'on ne regrette jamais" O.Wilde
La dernière fois que je suis allé dans ce coin, en 2000, j'étais passé à Lao Cai, poste frontière du côté vietnamien.
On changeait de train à la frontière, et je pense que c'est toujours ainsi, mais il faudrait se renseigner. De toute façon, il y a plein de coins interressants autour de Lao CAi (même si la ville ne présente aucun intérêt) et c'est pas mal de trainer un peu dans le coin avant d'aller à Hanoi
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I’m planning our very first trip to mainland France in January 2027. There’ll be 2 adults and 2 kids, and we’ll mostly be traveling by train.
Here’s our itinerary:
Paris
Rouen (Normandy)
Lyon
Aix-les-Bains (with day trips to Annecy and Geneva)
Saint-Gervais-les-Bains (with Chamonix and a day in Aosta)
Back to Paris
Do you think this itinerary is well-balanced? Any tips, must-see spots, or mistakes to avoid for a first-time visit?
Hi! I’d like to make stops across France, starting from Reims, and travel by train using the Intercités. I want to discover the landscapes and picturesque villages, and make some stops along the way. Could you give me some tips? Thanks!
I can’t seem to complete the payment for my trip on the IRCTC (Indian Railways) site. No matter which payment method I choose, my Visa card isn’t accepted.
Has anyone here managed to do it, and if so, could you share the method you used?
Thanks in advance!
Charlie
I’m planning a family trip in a year. Our goal: traveling to China (and maybe Hong Kong) by train.
I’m all set with the route up to eastern Turkey.
However, I’m just starting my research for the rest of the journey—namely the Caucasus (no trains as far as I know, so buses and/or ferries), then Central Asia and China.
So, I’d love to hear any info or tips (general and forward-looking at this stage) about the train route through Central Asia and China to reach the east coast.
I’m particularly interested in details on:
- How far in advance to book / any potential difficulties with reservations
- Whether there are PASS systems (or equivalent) between countries and/or if some tickets allow stopovers, meaning you can hop on and off as you please
- Day trains vs. night trains (the latter option lets you explore cities between two legs of the journey)
- A rough idea of ticket costs
...
A huge thank you to anyone who can share some info or experiences. It’s also a great opportunity to chat about adventure after (way too) many years away from this forum.
I’m planning a trip around Italy using only trains or public transport in October (hoping the weather stays nice!).
I’d obviously like to see some tourist destinations, but I also want to get off the beaten path a bit, and I’m hoping to find some help here? I don’t plan to linger too long in the cities.
Starting in the north, I’d like to visit Lake Como or Lake Orta, pass through the Cinque Terre for some hiking, spend a few days in Naples and Rome, then head down to Sicily.
Hi there,
I’ll be traveling to Japan this coming August. We’ve finalized our itinerary and booked our flight tickets. Now I’m at the stage of buying train tickets for the few segments we’ll need to cover:
Tokyo - Hakone
Hakone - Kyoto
Kyoto - Osaka
Osaka - Tokyo
Here are my questions:
a) Is it possible to buy train tickets for these segments from Canada?
b) If so, which website should I use to do this?
c) And if it is possible, will we be able to print our tickets from Canada?
d) If it’s not possible, where in Tokyo should I go to buy these tickets when I arrive?
Hi everyone, I wanted to take the Paris-Berlin overnight train with a sleeper berth, the new service operated by European Sleepers.
24/05/2026 17:45 Paris-Nord (actually 16:00 from Paris Bercy Seine) -> 25/05/2026 9:59 (actually 7:30 in Berlin)
05/06/2026 18:31 Berlin (actually 20:00) -> 06/06/2026 10:00 Paris Nord (actually 12:30)
Part of the journey was operated by bus instead of the promised overnight train.
For 2 people: 340 € round trip
A total disaster. Never again. I was really looking forward to taking the overnight train, but we faced last-minute changes and truly unpleasant travel conditions. Here are the details:
1) 2 days before departure: email announcing a change of departure station for the outbound trip—Bercy Seine bus station instead of Gare du Nord.
2) Change of schedule: 4:00 PM from Bercy instead of 5:45 PM from Gare du Nord.
3) Change of transport mode!! A bus from Paris to Brussels, then an overnight train from Brussels to Berlin. No functional toilets on the bus. No children under 4 allowed on the bus.
4) On the sleeper train at 9:30 PM: no functional toilets in our carriage, so we had to go to other carriages, even in the middle of the night, to find working ones.
5) The onboard staff, though very friendly, were as lost as we were. In particular, they didn’t know how to handle the lower berths, so people using them had less space (armrests and backrests). Berth numbers weren’t respected, so some passengers had to move. The staff also didn’t know who was supposed to join the compartment during the journey.
6) Arrival at 7:30 AM in Berlin instead of 10:00 AM. No arrival announcement. Passengers had to search for staff to get breakfast and ended up with just a coffee (breakfast = 15 €, not bad for just a coffee).
7) Return trip: drastic schedule change announced by email on 26/05/2026—departure at 7:30 PM instead of 6:30 PM, with arrival between 12:00 PM and 1:00 PM in Paris instead of 10:00 AM. No change in transport mode announced.
8) Change in transport mode announced by email on the same day (05/06/2026)!! Overnight train from Brussels to Berlin, then a bus from Paris to Brussels. No functional toilets on the bus. Children under 4 banned from the bus, and families in this situation were asked to find another way—after being notified the same day.
9) The overnight train arrived at Berlin station with a 30-minute delay on top of its initial delay (scheduled for 6:31 PM, then 7:30 PM, finally arriving at 8:00 PM). The heating was blasting in the compartment with no way to turn it off. No functional toilets in the carriage. From that point on, customer service stopped responding to my messages.
10) Woken up at 5:00 AM with an announcement in all carriages about arrival in Liège.
11) Woken up again at 6:00 AM to be told we’d arrive in Brussels at 7:00 AM.
12) Arrival in Brussels at 7:00 AM and a one-hour wait for the bus to Paris. No functional toilets on the bus.
13) Arrival at Paris Nord at 12:30 PM, so 2.5 hours late compared to the originally scheduled time.
14) The overnight trains used are very old—I recognized the carriages from 20 years ago!! No functional power outlets, no Wi-Fi, no air conditioning. Five people per compartment is a bit cramped, but I consider these conditions expected (especially the air conditioning), so I’m not complaining about that. There’s already plenty to gripe about with the travel conditions.
I have little hope of getting even a partial refund. Customer service emails acknowledge the discomfort but only offer to reimburse the cost of a coffee on board if we send them the receipt... a bit weak.
I’m sharing this experience in the hope it might help others.
Hi there,
I’d like to take the Train of the Clouds from Lima to Huancayo.
I’ve heard it only runs during certain periods.
Does anyone have info on this?
Thanks!
HuancayoHuancayo
As part of my professional thesis, I’m conducting a study on the evolution of long-distance rail transport in France, particularly since it opened up to competition.
I’ve put together a very quick (about 5-minute) and completely anonymous questionnaire. Your answers will help me better understand users' expectations regarding pricing, frequency, and environmental impact.
We’re planning a 15-day trip to Uzbekistan in March—classic independent itinerary: Tashkent, Samarkand, Bukhara, Khiva. We’d like to take the train between each city, but I don’t want to lock down the whole trip before we leave.
So, my question is: is it absolutely necessary to book train tickets before departure, whether for the high-speed trains or the regional ones? Is booking really essential for the regional trains?
Hello,
We’re traveling as a family with two boys aged 10 and 12 to Cairo in February. During our trip, we’re planning to take an overnight train (with or without a sleeper) for the Cairo-Aswan route.
Do you know how I can book this remotely?
Also, I’m looking for:
- A local contact to sail the Nile by felucca for 3 days from Aswan
- A contact to guide us in Cairo
Looking forward to your tips, and thanks in advance!
Marie
Hi everyone,
I first traveled solo to Japan in 2019, exploring the Kyushu region (28 days), and I’m planning to return with my daughter (she’s an adult and it’ll be her first time in Asia) from April 25 to May 9.
I’m reaching out on this forum to ask for route ideas—this time north of Tokyo, but without heading to the Sapporo island (I’m saving that for a future trip).
I’d love to take advantage of the cherry blossom season and its festivities.
I’m looking to create a route that’s a little off the beaten path while staying within 5-6 hours by train from Tokyo to avoid spending too much time on transfers.
Thanks in advance for sharing your suggestions and experiences!
Michael
I'm heading to MEXICO IN NOVEMBER 2025. Since private guides and drivers are really expensive—over 300 € per day—I'm thinking of exploring the Yucatán by train. CAN YOU SHARE ANY INFO ON THIS? Thanks
Hi there!
We’re planning to visit Serbia (1 week) and then Montenegro (2nd week) with our kids from April 18 to May 4. We’d prefer to travel by train (overnight if possible), but we’re not sure which platform to book on or when to do it (is it too early?). If anyone has any tips, I’m all ears!!
I wanted to know if it’s possible to go from Tashkent to Almaty by train without passing through Kyrgyzstan. I’ve heard the border is often closed 😕 between Uzbekistan and Kazakhstan.
Thanks in advance!
Olivier
Hi there!
We’re planning to head back to Istanbul next year—obviously by plane—and then take the train from Istanbul to Antalya. Has anyone here already made this trip by train with TCDD?
I’d love any tips or info that could be useful for us!
I'd like to go to Montserrat on my own from Barcelona. Share your suggestions with me.
Which train should I take, where to get off, what to see once I arrive, etc.
I need to take a sleeper train from Bangkok to Vientiane in January.
I found some ticket options on 12Go Asia, but booking doesn’t seem possible at the moment. I’ve tried simulations for several dates, but no luck.
I’m wondering if it’s already fully booked, if they’ve stopped selling tickets… yet 12Go still features it every day 😕
Has anyone else run into this issue?
Can I find tickets on another site? (I tried Baolau, but no sleepers left for January 8th.)
Hi there,
I’m a bit late to be worrying about this, but hopefully someone can help me before I leave.
Tomorrow afternoon, I arrive at Lyon Part-Dieu on the TGV at 5:50 PM and take the TER to Mâcon at 6:16 PM. Is a 26-minute transfer doable? Are the TGV and TER on the same departure board? And are they on the same platforms too?
I’ve been to Lyon before but never had to make a connection after arriving.
Thanks
Starting November 15th, I’ll be arriving in Thailand, and during my stay, I plan to visit the north, around the Chiang Mai area, then head south to the Krabi region.
After Krabi, I’m planning to take an overnight train to Bangkok. I was wondering if there’s a train that leaves from Krabi or Trang, or if I absolutely have to go to Surat Thani?
Also, which official website can I use to book my ticket?
Next, since I’ll be arriving at dawn in Bangkok, I’ve planned to spend 2 days in Kanchanaburi. What’s the most convenient way to get there—bus or train? And if you know any companies or websites, that’d be great.
Hi there,
Does anyone know if there’s a bus from Luang Namtha to Boten to catch the train coming from China to Vientiane? If so, what’s the name of the company? Also, how long does the bus take to cover that distance? What’s the condition of the road like?
Thanks for your help!
Tom
I just realized there’s only one payment method accepted for booking the Mombasa-Nairobi express train ticket online: M-Pesa, a mobile money transfer service used in Africa. Would it be impossible to book as a European?
I’d love to know if any of you have recently eaten on the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai.
We’ve always ordered food on the train, and it was really good (and super convenient).
But in 2022, we ended up feeling like total idiots (with our 4-year-old daughter...) when we boarded the train only to find out that this service was no longer available... (It was the first time we’d traveled right after COVID.)
That’s also when we saw once again how kind Thai people are—they all offered to share their food with us, even though we were mortified. In the end, we managed to buy some instant noodles, which was better than nothing. Anyway, that’s the little story behind it.
In the following years, we’ve always brought our own meals.
I’ve read online that meal trays are back in service (could you confirm this, please?), but that the quality is really poor. I’ve also seen multiple reports that, even though you can eat well everywhere in Thailand, the train meal was the worst food travelers had during their trip...
Could you give me a recent opinion on this?
We’ll be departing from Krung Thep Aphiwat Central Station—do you know if there’s anywhere to buy a meal there before boarding the train?
Thanks so much for your help,
and have a great Sunday!
We’re heading to Thailand in February 2026 and we’d like to take the overnight train from Bangkok to Chiang Mai. Can we book two first-class tickets? I’m only seeing second-class options.
Hi everyone,
For traveling in Rajasthan by train and bus, could you give me some info: where to buy tickets, cost, purchase locations, websites, etc.?
Any tips you have would be super helpful.
Thanks
We’re traveling to Java on October 23, just the two of us.
I’ve read that it’s best to book train tickets in advance on tiket.com.
Is that true, and how far ahead do you recommend?
Are the tickets changeable?
Hi everyone,
I’m planning to travel from Ulaanbaatar to Irkutsk by train this summer but I’m a bit worried about crossing the borders. How does it work? Could anyone share their experience? (I’ve found quite a few accounts of people going *from* Russia *to* Mongolia, but entering a country is never the same as leaving it—especially in this context!)