Nous revenons d'un grand voyage en afrique australe voici quelques remarques si cela peu vous aider .
Safari : Kruger ***** Etosha *** zambie *
De loin le Kruger est le plus interessant vraiment
Nombre d'especes rencontrées (epoustouflant)
Quantites d'animaux par especes (fénoménal)
Qualité des acces ***
Qualité des camps ***** en particulier Olifants a des prix tres tres abordables
Etosha : beaucoup moins d'animaux et de variete ; Couchages moyens prix eleves
Botswana :
Parcs vers VFA peu d'animaux sauf elephants .
Attention si vous allez aux chutes il faut voir les 2 cotés (ZImbabwe et Zambie) mais pour la Zambie il faut la fievre jaune bien que à la frontiere on ne nous a pas controlé .
Botswan, Zambie, Zimbabwe sont des pays chers
AFS tres abordable
L'avion :
Quand vous partez d'europe pour l'afrique il n'y a pas vraiement de difference entre Kenya et AFS par exemple .
Nous on a voyage de nuit alors 2 heures de = ou de -
A votre dispo pour photos ( a 5 metres de 15 lions de nuit) a 4 metres de 2 guepard pour une promenade au coucher du soleil ..... ceci avec un guide local bien sur
Bonjour
Il faut vous faire très attention à la douane, ils oublient de porter le visa sur le passeport. C' est toujours dans la poche ... mais problème à la sortie du Pays.
De plus pour la Tanzanie il faut payer le visa au Kenya puis en Tanzanie et à nouveau au Kenya, il faut le savoir c' est un racket que tout le monde cautionne.
Cela dit en Tanzanie c' est mieux.
ben non, y'a pas mal de solutions pour aller en Tanzanie sans passer par Nairobi (Egyptair, Ethiopian, qatar ...), et en transit à Nairobi, pas de visa à payer
nous avons fait 4 jours de safari en afrique du sud dans un parc beaucoup plus petit que le parc kruger et nous avons été ravis, l'afrique du sud est un pays qui vaut le coup d'être visité
Bonjour Stéphanie
Je n'ai l'expérience ni du Kenya ni de la Tanzanie, mais pour être allé 2 fois en Namibie, au Botswana et en Afrique du sud,
je te conseillerais le Botswana. J'avais loué un 4x4 avec tente sur le toit et hop en route dans les réserves (Chobe, Okavago...).
Dormir sur son toit avec des éléphants qui passent à coté, c'est un souvenir extraordinaire. On tutoie les animaux (avec bien sur une distance à respecter) et les Botswanais sont très sympas avec les touristes. A faire d'urgence.
bonjour ma seule expérience est le kénya tsavo est, parti de belgique en ayant préparer mon safari de 3 jours d'ici-google et autres forums avec pour base un séjour hôtel tout compris, donc guide français prise en charge à l'hôtel avec tout inclus dedans transport logement etc.......
j'ai effectué mes vaccins car plus en ordre mon dernier voyage en Afrique datait de 2000+-, si je doit cité un pays ou tu te sent en insécurité ce sera bien pour le kénya-mombasa où de toute façon on te déconseille de t'y aventurer tout seul mais bon de magnifiques souvenirs photos et autres de mon périple, j'ai un lien de mon blog photo mais je ne sait pas si je peut l'insérer.....au pire celui qui veut en mp, j'aurais bien voulu le masaï mais bon hors budget et je suis parti à la va vite
Avec retard je fais quelques commentaires.
Concernant la Tanzanie, nous l'avons fait avec nouvelles frontières, cela à été super! Beaucoup de bestioles( dont les 5 big five).
Excellent guide, parlant un très bon français et 4x4 parfait.
JE vous conseille de finir part Zanzibar, plages et hôtels magnifiques, sans oublier de passer au moins 2 nuits à Ston town pour l'ambiance, les saveurs et les couleurs et pour "chiner".
Concernant le Botswana et plus précisément " le delta", c'est très beau mais beaucoup plus cher ( du fait que l'on se déplace assez souvent en petit avion pour aller d'un lodge à l'autre).Nous n'avons fait que des parc privés (4) et avons été déçu du manques "de bestioles" par rapport à la Tanzanie. Ceci étant, les gens sont supers et les lodges sont dans des sites magnifiques.
Autre Pays d'un grand intérêt; La Namibie. C'est grandiose, mais là aussi vu beaucoup moins de" bestioles" qu'en Tanzanie.
bonjour
Nous revenons de 4 semaines en namibie (octobre , novembre ).Nous avons vu tous les animaux ou presque car il nous manque guépard et léopard
Ce voyage nous a couté cher 5800 euros pour deux en individuel avec 4x4 et camping tous les jours
Le mieux serait d' écarter les chutes victoria, cette visite étant cher et les chute a un tiers seulement de leur longueur a cette époque , mais il faut tout de même pousser jusqu'a mohango pour voir hippo et croco et profiter du trés agréable bord de l'okavongo
A autre économie possible louer une voiture de tourisme au lieu d'un 4x4 , ça passe a étosha mais limite un peu le reste des visites du pays et complique la possibilité de camping + matos de bouffe +bagage.Attention aussi car les voitures souffrent terriblement et la caution j'imagine doit souvent vous passer sous le nez (j'imagine , je n'en sais rien )
Bien choisir son loueur , nous nous sommes aperçu que nous avions payé un peu cher notre 4x4 par rapport a d'autre touriste .Nous n'avions pas la tente sur le toit et c'est bien dommage aussi car ceci aurait pu nous permetre de camper hors campement bien plus facilement et donc la aussi de faire des économies, quoique ceux ci coute plus cher a la location sauf a partir de trois personnes
Ce pays a l'avantage d'offrir d'autres merveilles que le safari
-les himbas et zembas
-twyfelftein
-une piste fantastique a descendre sur cap cross
-les otaries de cape cross
-les dunes de sesfontein
-quelques campement vraiment trés agréable
dom r
Bonsoir,
Je reviens d'un voyage de 11 semaines des pays cités dans la discussion et partage ici mon expérience.
Le vaccin est une assurance, à chacun d'évaluer le risque en plus de l'obligation administrative. Je peux avoir une dispense mais j'ai choisi d'être vacciné et de prendre des pilules anti-malaria dans des régions à risque élevé. Mais c'est un long voyage, je n'étais pas vacciné lors des courts séjours en Amazonie. Aucune autorité m'a demandé le carnet de vacination pendant le voyage.
Eviter de voyager pendant la saison de pluie à moins que vous aimiez des aventures - les chauffeurs doivent prendre des routes alternatives donc encore plus longues, et dans certains cas, il faudrait traverser des ponts piétoniers et d'autres 4x4 vous amènent dans les lodges - attente, etc...
Les safaris sont un don de la nature - les guides sérieux ne vous assurent que le beau paysage - quant aux aminaux - furtifs - léopard par exemple - ce sera la pure chance. Mais certainement, vous auriez des rencontres intéressants.
Les guides-chauffeurs sont très éduqués - beaucoup étaient des enseignants - nos deux guides-chauffeurs en Tanzanie se parlaient en français pour le pratiquer.
Planifier bien vos vols - surtout certaines destinations directes ne s'offrent que 2 fois par semaine. J'ai dû rester 2 nuits de plus à Naroibi - et si l'on fait attention le soir - il n'y a pas plus de problème qu'ailleurs.
Oui c'est cher en Afrique - surtout dans les lodges - mais on est au milieu de nulle part, tout doit être apporté. Ce voyage m'a coûté assez cher - mais je n'ai pas du tout regretter.
Lequel de ces 3 pays - N'importe lequel, vous ne seriez pas déçu, il y a peu de différence entre les structures d'accueil aux touristes au Kenya et en Tanzanie selon mon expérience très limitée.
La descente en raft sur le Zambezi, le vol en montgolfière au dessus de Sarengeti ... sont parmi les moments forts; le masai surveillant son bétail dans la savane tout en parlant au téléphone cellulaire est un spectacle amusant; et enfin la lutte pour la survie partout de la majorité de la population est ...
moins chers que le Botswana
Parc Etosha - Damaraland avec les animaux
Reste du pays juste superbe
Facile à faire en self drive
Pas de vaccins
Possibilité de campement - lodge a des prix divers
encore moins touristique que le Kenia
Plus authentique et plus sauvage que l'Afrique du sud (moins fréquenté aussi)
Vol direct au départ de Francfort...
et des tonnes d'autres avantages qui en deviennent des souvenirs inoubliables....
Oups j'arrive tard... 😊
Avez-vous pensé au Kgalagadi en Afrique du Sud ?
parc semi désertique jouxtant la Namibie et le Botwana et où on est sûr de voir Léopards et Guépards.
A part ça, tous les parcs mentionnés valent le voyage, avec une préférence pour la Tanzanie (Serengeti, Manyara Tarengire, Ngongoro)
On y était cet été , Masai , Samburu ascension du mt Kenya et Tanzanie pour l'ascension du Kili, et franchement je ne me souviens pas d'avoir croisé des minibus pendant les safaris. Mais parfois, il faut bien le dire, une quinzaine de voitures à observer un léopard...Les guides communiquent entre eux pour signaler les spots , donc inévitablement, il ne faut plus s'attendre à être seuls sur les lieux !
De mon côté je serais bien intéressée par la Namibie, l'Afrique Australe en général...
Le gros atout du Botswana est son caractère sauvage: 40% de sa surface est protégé et contrairement à la RSA, il n'y a pas de clôtures ! Par ailleurs, dans les concessions privées de l'okavango par exemple, le nombre de véhicules est limité à 3 par camp. Autrement dit: "you and the bush" 😉 Mais cela a un prix effectivement...(choix -assez récent- du pays d'organiser un tourisme élitiste mais avec peu d'impact négatif sur le milieu, plutôt que tourisme de masse à prix plus bas mais avec impact nettement supérieur...-
Le Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park n'est clôturé que du côté Sud-Africain, comme son nom l'indique il est ouvert sur la Namibie et le Botswana. C'est d'ailleurs un excellent point de départ pour ces deux destinations.
exact et en passant, attention au KTP en question, il faut réserver parfois très longtemps à l'avance (en tous cas pour les groupes et plusieurs jours d'affilée) 😉
Bonsoir Cgnon, vous dites avoir fait un safari en Afrique du Sud, mais vous parlez d'un sentiment mitigé...
Pourriez vous en énoncer les raisons svp? Ça m'intéresserait. Car apparemment le tarif peut être + intéressant qu'au Kenya et en Tanzanie, et la destination est moins courante non ? Plus de choses à voir aussi non ?
Merci pour votre réponse ou celles d'autres amateurs.
bonjour,
sauf erreur, j'ai pas entendu parler de la namibie... pourtant c'est un pays superbe et notament le parc d'etocha, bcp d'animaux a voir avec une voiture de loc ... il y a deux zone pour reserver un bungalo et meme camper... ou louer un 4x4 equipé de tente de toit , mais il y a bcp de chose a voir et a faire en namibie et que de lumiere et d'endemie
pas besoin de tour operator! vol windoeck via johannesbourg, location car hire reservation lodge sur internet ....il y a des français receptif pour eventuelement organiser l'autotour
pour ma part le kenya ...c'est tourist...pour y avor ete 5 ou 6 fois , c'est bien si l'on a pas vu d'autre chose !!!
si vous avez du temps il est possible de faire namibie , bande de caprivi et delta de l'okavango en autotours au depart de joh...
bonjour
et surtout n'oubliez pas les Himbas*, hereros et san ...
au nord d'opuwo seulement pour ne pas visiter les villages à touristes et pensez à apporter nourriture, medicaments, crayons, etc...
Bon voyage
Nous hésitons sur prochaine destination pour faire un SAFARI
Voici comment nous voyons les choses et nos intérrogations , merci de nous dire si on se trompe:
KENYA:
- pays à risque depuis attentats??
- pays à risque pour la fièvre jaune?? nous ne pouvons pas faire ce vaccin car contre indication médicale. Vaccin obligatoire pour autorités ET/OU par réel risque de maladie
- possibilité d'avoir raner francophone??
- A voir: masai mara , amboseli, tsavo, mont kenya et meru
Le réel avantage que nous voyons pour ce pays (outre le safari en lui meme) c'est que c pas trop aussi contraignant au niveau nombre d'heure d'avion en comparaison par ex au Botswana et pareillement au niveau du prix si on le compare à ce dernier pays.
TANZANIE:
- Vaccin fievre obligatoire pas obligatoire sauf si on vient d'un pays à risque ou si on va à zanzibar
- possible d'avoir ranger francophone
- A voir : serenheti, tarangire, ngonrongoro Arusha manyara
ca commence à se corser au niveau du prix 🤪
BOTSWANA + chutes
- pas de vaccin fievre jaune obligatoire
- diversité dans la façon de faire le safari: mokoro , bateau , 4x4 , petit avion dessus l'Okavango et helico au dessus des chute
- beaucoup d'heures et de changements d'avion
TRES TRES CHER : au moins du 5000 euro par personne si on veut voir les principales choses, NON?? meilleure période : aout pour le delta et à partir de septembre les chutes se "tarissent "
Bonjour,
Notre expérience de juillet-août 2013 : Afrique du sud, Namibie, Botswana et de là excursion d'une journée aux chutes Victoria. Le tout en voiture classique de location ( pas de 4*4), la petite tente dans le coffre et auberge de jeunesse, tente safari et lodge ( à prix raisonnable de temps en temps) ou logement chez l'habitant. Voyage inoubliable (dépaysement, paysages superbes, animaux en nombre) et aucun problème sanitaire ou de sécurité. Le tout à notre rythme, sans réservation et d'une grande simplicité avec des coûts reduits (par rapport aux safaris organisés).
Pour plus de renseignements, n'hésitez pas à me contacter.
Bonne préparation et bon et beau voyage.
Isabelle
Dans votre liste manque l'Afrique du Sud et ses magnifiques parcs pour l'observation de la faune africaine, notamment l'emblématique parc du Kruger, facile a parcourir car vous pouvez les visiter avec propre véhicule de location. Et nettement moins cher que le Botswana par exemple voire la Tanzanie.
C'est vrai hélas pour les petits camps (unfenced camps), 4 bungalows = 8 personnes (sauf KTC, une dizaine de tentes), pour les camps dits "normaux", il y a pas mal de bungalows/chalets et on peut même camper, là en 2-3 mois on doit pouvoir trouver de la place.
Dans le Kruger, au sud, il y a vraiment trop de monde = embouteillage jusqu'à 30-50 voitures pour un Léopard ou une troupe de Lions, par contre le nord (à partir de Letaba, voir éventuellement Satara)... un vrai régal...
PS je viens de finaliser, ce matin, une réservation de 4 semaines dans le Kgalagadi, pour octobre/novembre 2014, la plus part dans les petits camps 😎
Bonjour,
J'ai arrêté de prendre un médicament - Humira - pendant plusieurs mois pour pouvoir prendre le vaccin de la fièvre jaune, c'est une décision personnelle. J'ai consulté un médecin d'une clinique de voyage - mais en Amérique du Nord, personne ne vous donne un conseil concis - car le risque d'être poursuivi est réel. Même, personne n'ose me dire combien de semaines devrai-je arrêter le médicament avant de pouvoir être vacciné! Dans mon cas, je peux arrêter le traitement presque sans conséquence, c'est pourquoi j'opte pour la vaccination pour ce voyage plus long; j'ai déjà voyagé dans les régions à risque sans être vacciné. Il faut pouvoir voyager le coeur léger; plusieurs personnes en Amérique du Nord sont très malades suite à une piqure d'insectes infectés de virus du Nil! Il faut relativiser !
Marcher avec les lions, éléphants, caresser les lionceaux , plonger en présence des crocodiles... (les humains sont dans les cages), vous pouvez les faire à Victoria Falls, Zim; plusieurs personnes de notre groupe participaient à ces activités, elles ont adoré ! je préférais faire le rafting. J'ai cru apercevoir des affiches annoncant certaines de ces activités du côté de la Zambie - à vérifier.
Avec le visa Single Entry au Kenya, on peut aller dans plusieurs pays limitrophes donc la Tanzanie et retourner au Kenya( Septembre 2013).
Nous sommes une famille de la Réunion, avec 3 enfants, habitués des vacances qui bougent un peu: vélo, bivouac, stop, hébergements trouvés au dernier moment…
East and Southern Africa › South Africa · 10 replies
Nous partons 1 semaine en septembre prochain au KNP et avons loué une voiture Toyota Starlet. Entre-temps j'ai lu des avis sur le piètre état des gravel roads…
Hello everyone!
It's been a year since I've been longing for South Africa. Our first trip in August 2025 amazed us, and—rarely—it was a unanimous hit with our little family! We were touched to the core, and from the moment we got home, we couldn’t stop talking about going back. 😄
I’d like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who gave me advice on the itinerary for that first trip (Johannesburg loop: Blyde, Kruger, Eswatini, St. Lucia, Durban, Drakensberg)! Thanks to you, our trip went like a dream!
Since then, I haven’t stopped reading articles and discussions on VoyageForum to keep my head in South Africa a little longer!
So, we finally caved and just booked our tickets for January 2027 (from the 3rd to the 26th), with a plan to do a road trip from Cape Town to Johannesburg in about 3 weeks.
I’ve got a rough itinerary that seems great based on what I’ve read on various forums, but there are still some uncertain points, and that’s where I could use your advice.
3/01: Arrival in Johannesburg at 11:45 PM
4/01: Flight to Cape Town, pick up rental car. Afternoon sightseeing
5,6,7/01: Cape Town to visit the big classics in the area (any tips for finding accommodation: which neighborhood, a specific place?)
8/01: Overnight stop before Oudtshoorn—but where??? (Is it essential, or is the CT-Oudtshoorn drive manageable? If so, I’d gain a day in Oudtshoorn. Google Maps shows over 5 hours of driving...)
9,10/01: Oudtshoorn (or would 3 nights be better to really enjoy the area?)
11,12/01: Knysna, Plettenberg Bay (to have time for hiking—if you’ve got hiking tips, I’m all ears!)
13,14/01: Tsitsikamma (still to have time for hiking—who knows the must-do hikes in the area? But maybe 4 nights in the Knysna-Tsitsikamma area is too much—I’m not sure)
16,17/01: Addo Elephant (I’m torn between 3 nights at Addo or 3 nights at Mountain Zebra. Based on travel journals, especially Michel’s on MZ, I’ve scheduled 3 nights at MZ 😄...)
18,19,20/01: Mountain Zebra NP
21/01: Camdeboo NP (because it looks so beautiful!)
22/01: Overnight stop (where?) before wrapping up the trip with either 2 or 3 nights at Golden Gate NP or the Lesotho option, which appeals to me, but I don’t know if it’s doable in 3 days to be back in Johannesburg by the afternoon of the 26th.
That’s my trip idea for now...
I’m eagerly waiting for your advice, ideas, and comments...
Can’t wait to be back there again!
We're heading to South Africa for a month with 5 adults.
We'd like to rent a vehicle that can accommodate 5 people and all our luggage.
We're starting in Cape Town and ending in Johannesburg.
What vehicle would you recommend?
EDITH
Hi everyone!
I’m still planning my Cape Town to Johannesburg trip in January 2027.
I saw a documentary about the San people in Namibia, and the same day, I stumbled upon the Lonely Planet page about !Kwah Ttu.
I checked out their website to learn more, including Michel’s travel journal about it. I’m really keen to go.
So, I’m thinking of dedicating:
- either 1 day out of the 4.5 I have in Cape Town...
- or making a detour to !Kwah Ttu on the day I leave Cape Town for Montagu, instead of visiting Franschhoek and its Saturday market...
To the VFers who’ve already been: is it really worth spending a day there?
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Malijp
Hi there,
I’m planning a gorilla trek in Bwindi, Uganda. I’m torn between the classic option (1 hour with the gorillas) and the habituation trek (4 hours with the gorillas but a more expensive permit). Has anyone done the habituation trek? Both? If so, I’d love to hear your feedback (including on the difficulty).
Thanks
I’ve read some travel journals here but I still have a question.
We’re heading to Uganda next February. The gorilla permits are booked, and the flight tickets are sorted too.
My question is about the chimpanzee trek. I’d love to know whether it’s better to book the habituation experience (4 hours) or the standard trek (1 hour).
The price difference isn’t huge, but I keep wondering and I’d hate to miss out on a great experience.
Thirty years ago, I traveled to Zanzibar (Tanzania) with my children. Since I’ve since started a new family, I took the opportunity of a trip to Kenya to bring my new family along: my wife, who’s Kenyan, and my 10-year-old daughter.
Zanzibar has really changed in 30 years.
It’s become the island of taxes.
It all starts upon arrival: I think it’s the only country in the world, besides the visa, where Zanzibar insurance (and no other) is mandatory—it costs 40 €. If you didn’t purchase it before arriving, good luck getting it: the IT systems are unreliable. With a bit of luck, it’ll take at least an hour to process! And of course, this insurance is useless—if you get sick, it’s recommended to use your home country’s insurance because if you use Zanzibar’s, your national insurance won’t cover you anymore.
I wanted to show my daughter the red colobus monkey, which is endemic to Zanzibar. I paid for a tour that was supposed to be all-inclusive. First, we visited a spice farm, where a farm guide took charge of us—meaning commissions were involved, of course! The tour was very good and informative, though. When we arrived at Jenzhi Park (the colobus park), the guide told us he "forgot" there was an entrance fee (50$).
Aware of the system, I decided to book an Ocean Blue tour through the Zanzibar Tourism Office. After two hours of driving, we stopped at a beach—and were left there. No boat was ready to take us. Since my wife speaks Swahili (the language in Zanzibar), after an hour, a captain with his own boat agreed to take us along with his family.
Another attempt. The main attraction in Zanzibar (besides the city) is Changuu, the Prison Island. You have to take a motorboat and pay the captain, which is normal.
But in Zanzibar, to even get on a boat, you first have to pay a tax! Once we arrived at the island, it started all over again! Thirty years ago, access was free, and the entire island (about 1 km²) was open. Today, there’s a small office, and you have to pay a hefty fee to enter. But enter where? A paved path leads to about 15% of the island—the rest is off-limits. In total, I paid 100 € for my wife, daughter, and myself just to visit a tiny portion of the island! Avoid this!
For the rest of our stay, we stayed at a 5-star hotel with golf, horseback riding, tennis courts, evening concerts, etc.—undeniably high-level comfort. One last thing: if you want to rent a car, it’s affordable and useful for exploring the island’s diverse landscapes, but there are speed cameras at every corner on the main roads. The fine is supposedly 100 $, and it’s hard not to get one!
I told you: Zanzibar, the land of taxes. I used to think my country, Belgium, was the tax champion—I’ve found something even better!
Hi everyone,
We’re revising our travel plans for January 2027. Originally, we were considering Uganda for about 14/15 days, but given the current health situation and the restrictions that might affect my partner, who’s American, we’ve decided to switch to Tanzania instead.
I’m used to traveling in South Africa and organizing my trips myself, but I get the impression that planning a safari in Tanzania is quite different.
I know self-drive isn’t really an option in Tanzania. So my main question is: can you organize your own itinerary and book lodges directly, then hire a local driver-guide? Or is it better to go through a local agency that handles the entire safari?
For the itinerary, which parks would you recommend for a first-time visit in January? Serengeti, Ngorongoro, Tarangire, Manyara, Ruaha, Arusha, Selous…
We’d also like to include Zanzibar to end the trip with a few days at the beach. Over 14/15 days, does that sound realistic or too ambitious?
Finally, for flights, is it better to arrive at Kilimanjaro (JRO) or Dar es Salaam (DAR) based on the itinerary we’re considering?
Thanks in advance for your feedback, especially on the best way to organize the safari and which parks to prioritize in January!
In Nov./Dec. 2022, I went on a safari in the region and we suffered from the extreme temperatures caused by the "El Niño" phenomenon in the Indian Ocean at that time. On top of the extreme heat, there can be torrential rains, flooding, etc., which have led to disasters with casualties.
We're now just 5 weeks away from our trip to South Africa 🙂 and *so* excited to explore (just a tiny bit of) this amazing country.
I need to buy some binoculars but have no idea which model to choose. I don’t really know what to look for (and I don’t want to spend too much).
Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some tips!
We just got back from ten days in Tanzania. We were lucky enough to be guided by Gishaman. Always in a great mood, a good driver, and an excellent guide. Thanks to him, we not only saw the Big Five in one day but also loads of other animals. He works for the local agency Blit Safaris, which provided excellent support throughout our trip. Highly recommended!
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
My trip to South Africa is getting closer (still 2 months to go 😏), and I’m diving back into my itinerary: from Saturday to the following Sunday around Cape Town, then from Sunday to the following Saturday in Kruger.
For Cape Town, the plan was to avoid changing accommodation every day (we’ll do enough of that in the second part) but still see different landscapes.
I know, I’m missing out on a lot, but you’ve got to make choices, and after all this time, I know what I like—and especially what I don’t (or like less) 😉
Here’s the breakdown:
Arrival Saturday at 11 AM: heading to Hermanus (2 nights). The idea is to stroll along the cliff path in the afternoon, and possibly drive to the Klein River Lagoon. Sunday: Stony Point, then depending on time and weather, a hike in Kogelberg Nature Reserve or Fernkloof Nature Reserve (which seems less scenic but has shorter walks).
Monday: drive to Franschhoek (1 night). If everything lines up, a hike in Jonkershoek NR and a visit to a wine estate.
Tuesday: drive to Mountceder Lodge in the Cederberg (2 nights). I’m thinking of visiting the Stadsaal Caves and the elephant paintings, and maybe one of the hikes listed on the lodge’s site or Maltese Cross.
Thursday: heading to Hout Bay for 3 nights. In no particular order: a classic day trip around the peninsula, half a day at Kirstenbosch Gardens, and half a day at Lion’s Head.
Sunday: flight to Johannesburg.
My questions are mostly about (short) hikes:
Has anyone here done hikes in Kogelberg, Fernkloof, or Jonkershoek?
At Mountceder Lodge (Michel, if you’re reading this… 😉), has anyone tried the hikes (guided or not) offered by the lodge?
There’s still half a day to fill when we’re in Hout Bay—any ideas (not necessarily hikes)?
Lastly, regarding safety: the French foreign ministry (always alarmist, but still) recommends hiking in groups. Is it really risky in broad daylight? (I’m not sure a group of two women counts as a "group"…)
Thanks in advance for your answers, ideas, and comments!
Question: we’re doing a 3-week trip in Namibia, including 5 days for Victoria Falls.
I’ve booked one night in Brandberg, and then I have some questions.
I was thinking of spending 2 nights in Palmwag, then heading to Etosha for one night in Okaukuejo and then 2 nights in Halali.
Alternatively, from Brandberg, I could book a night near Galton Gate and then enter Etosha.
I’m not really sure about the distances, especially with a 4x4.
Same for the return trip: Halali to Windhoek seems long. Maybe it’d be smart to break it up on the way back? (We have 2 days to get back if needed.) If so, where?
Jambo! I organized my trip through this kind of group, so I thought I’d share my experience here. We traveled as a group of four, including two kids aged 9 and 11. After requesting around twenty quotes, I decided to book the safari portion with MAKING MEMORIES IN AFRICA. Ally responded quickly and listened to all my requests—unlike other agencies—such as having a French-speaking guide, the order of park visits (Tarangire, Manyara, Serengeti, then Ngorongoro), and a mix of budget hotels and camping to keep costs down. There were still four agencies in the running, and price was the deciding factor. Even though they were the cheapest, I felt better taken care of than with others. For example, all meals were prepared by a Maasai chef, Louis, who accompanied us throughout the trip, while some others ate meals out of cardboard boxes. Samuel, our guide, explained so many things and answered all our questions. José drove us safely the whole way. Everything was done with great cheer!
At the end of the stay, Ally came to meet us and gave us t-shirts with the agency’s logo—we loved that they took the time to hear our feedback in person. In short, I highly recommend them +++, especially since it’s a local agency that also supports a charity for women and children.
For Zanzibar, I organized everything myself. I hesitated for a long time but eventually booked all four nights at the same place. We don’t like crowds, so I initially considered Jambiani but ended up choosing EVERGREEN BUNGALOWS in Bwejuu. We took their first airport-to-hotel transfer since we arrived at night, and it felt safer. Great value for money, in our opinion. Just be aware that it’s quite isolated—perfect for relaxing and going on excursions. There were very few beach vendors, unlike what I’d read about Zanzibar. We lived with our feet in the sand from morning to night, with a small basin of water outside our room to rinse off. Such a lovely spot!
I had asked for some excursion prices before leaving but ended up booking on-site. Not at our hotel, but at a nearby restaurant that was cheaper. After some thought, since we were based in Bwejuu, I wanted to do Blue Lagoon and Pungume (both departing from the south of Zanzibar).
Blue Lagoon: About 3 hours total, with snorkeling on a small reef full of fish (coral wasn’t great) and a stop at a spot with tons of starfish, plus local snacks, fruit, and drinks.
Pungume: An amazing day with a 50% chance of seeing dolphins (we missed them), a visit to the mangroves, then snorkeling at a spot with some nice coral and, of course, fish. We ended with a fantastic grill (tuna, shrimp, squid, lobster, and fries) on a sandbank in the shade.
Finally, before heading to Stone Town, we visited Paje Cave, which is much less known than Maalum. It’s smaller, but we saw bats, went for a swim, and fed the chickens and rabbits (great for the kids). To finish, we explored Stone Town on our own and had dinner at Forodhani Market.
For flights, we flew with Turkish Airlines from Barcelona to Kilimanjaro and back from Zanzibar—no issues there. However, I don’t recommend the Kilimanjaro-Zanzibar leg with Precision Air. Our luggage didn’t arrive, and according to the hotel, this happens often. We only got it back a day and a half later.
March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy