Cet été nous faisons 3 semaines au Kirghizstan en cyclocamping => beaucoup de montagne sur de la piste. On a pour ça des VTC en roues de 700x35C. Notre plus petit braquet est 28x28, soit un développement de 2, 10 m. J'ai toujours entendu que pour être à l'aise dans les côtes il faut un développement inférieur à 2 m. D'autant plus dans notre situation, chargés sur de la piste, donc avec beaucoup de résistance au roulement. On pense donc modifier notre cassette, en ajoutant 2 grands pignons de 32 et 30, soit 32-30-28-26, etc. Ou peut être un 34-32-30 etc. Qu'en pensez vous ? Quels développements avez vous pour du cyclocamping en montagne (sur piste) ?
Développements montagne en cyclocamping
by Aero
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
Cet été nous faisons 3 semaines au Kirghizstan en cyclocamping => beaucoup de montagne sur de la piste. On a pour ça des VTC en roues de 700x35C. Notre plus petit braquet est 28x28, soit un développement de 2, 10 m. J'ai toujours entendu que pour être à l'aise dans les côtes il faut un développement inférieur à 2 m. D'autant plus dans notre situation, chargés sur de la piste, donc avec beaucoup de résistance au roulement. On pense donc modifier notre cassette, en ajoutant 2 grands pignons de 32 et 30, soit 32-30-28-26, etc. Ou peut être un 34-32-30 etc. Qu'en pensez vous ? Quels développements avez vous pour du cyclocamping en montagne (sur piste) ?
Cet été nous faisons 3 semaines au Kirghizstan en cyclocamping => beaucoup de montagne sur de la piste. On a pour ça des VTC en roues de 700x35C. Notre plus petit braquet est 28x28, soit un développement de 2, 10 m. J'ai toujours entendu que pour être à l'aise dans les côtes il faut un développement inférieur à 2 m. D'autant plus dans notre situation, chargés sur de la piste, donc avec beaucoup de résistance au roulement. On pense donc modifier notre cassette, en ajoutant 2 grands pignons de 32 et 30, soit 32-30-28-26, etc. Ou peut être un 34-32-30 etc. Qu'en pensez vous ? Quels développements avez vous pour du cyclocamping en montagne (sur piste) ?
Aero
Salut,
Moi quand j'arrive aux plus grandes couronnes, je fais un écart de 4 dents par couronne car en général; quand on en est arrivé à ce stade c'est que c'est dur et une différence de 2 dents ça ne se sent pas. Voila ce que j'ai en configuration voyage avec une cassette de 8 vitesses:
14 15 17 19 21 24 28 32
Moi quand j'arrive aux plus grandes couronnes, je fais un écart de 4 dents par couronne car en général; quand on en est arrivé à ce stade c'est que c'est dur et une différence de 2 dents ça ne se sent pas. Voila ce que j'ai en configuration voyage avec une cassette de 8 vitesses:
14 15 17 19 21 24 28 32
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si tu vas sur des sites professionnels orienté entre autre randonnée (sheldown brown) ou des sites de personnes pratiquant la montagne en randonnée
tu trouveras des indications.
http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html#9cassettes tu trouveras les produits "harris cyclotourist" qui sont une bonne indication
j'ai appliqué leur conseil et j'ai trouvé de l'approchant
avant : 22, 32, 42 arrière : cassette 11 à 34
pour tes pneus je me demande si tu devrais pas passer à du 40 mm de diamètre surtout pour de la piste ? Moi depuis le début j'ai du 42 mm gonflé à 4 bar(18 kg de vélo + 35 kg de bagage + 70 kg le bonhomme). C'est confortable et tout à fait roulant. 35 mm c'est trop orienté vélo de ville pour le bitume ?
http://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html#9cassettes tu trouveras les produits "harris cyclotourist" qui sont une bonne indication
j'ai appliqué leur conseil et j'ai trouvé de l'approchant
avant : 22, 32, 42 arrière : cassette 11 à 34
pour tes pneus je me demande si tu devrais pas passer à du 40 mm de diamètre surtout pour de la piste ? Moi depuis le début j'ai du 42 mm gonflé à 4 bar(18 kg de vélo + 35 kg de bagage + 70 kg le bonhomme). C'est confortable et tout à fait roulant. 35 mm c'est trop orienté vélo de ville pour le bitume ?
Avant 22, 32, 44
Arrière 13-34 que tu peux configurer comme tu veux avec les pignons MICHE.
En regle generale, ecart de 1 dent entre les pignons de 11 à 14, ecart de 2 dents entre les pignons de 14 à 18, ecart de 3 dents entre les pignons de 18 à 26, ecart de 4 dents entre les pignons de 26 à 34. Et sur cette base à toi de confectionner ton assemblage de pignons.
Attention aux entretoises, ce ne sont pas les memes si ta as une casstte 8 pignons ou une cassette 9 pignons. D'autre part une chaine 8 pignons est plus robuste qu'une chaine pour 9 ou 10 pignons.
Mais le principal, c'est d'avoir un petit developpement pour tout monter, pour la descente cela ira toujours. Il ne faut pas tirer trop long.
Arrière 13-34 que tu peux configurer comme tu veux avec les pignons MICHE.
En regle generale, ecart de 1 dent entre les pignons de 11 à 14, ecart de 2 dents entre les pignons de 14 à 18, ecart de 3 dents entre les pignons de 18 à 26, ecart de 4 dents entre les pignons de 26 à 34. Et sur cette base à toi de confectionner ton assemblage de pignons.
Attention aux entretoises, ce ne sont pas les memes si ta as une casstte 8 pignons ou une cassette 9 pignons. D'autre part une chaine 8 pignons est plus robuste qu'une chaine pour 9 ou 10 pignons.
Mais le principal, c'est d'avoir un petit developpement pour tout monter, pour la descente cela ira toujours. Il ne faut pas tirer trop long.
Rien ne sert d'aller vite, il faut arriver à point.
Du moment que j'avance, je sais où je vais ... . Devant!
Nous rentrons d'amérique du sud, nous avions pour moi avec une remorque de 30 kg devant 24 34 et derrrière 11 à 32. Pour mon épouse la même chose mais pour 18 Kg de sacoches, pour monter sur l'altiplano c'était bien ainsi que pour les côtes très dure après 8000 Km. Nous n'avons jamais pratiquement utiliser le plateau de 44.
Dac' avec tout le monde(presque).
Devant : 22-32-42 ou 22-32-44
Derrière : 13 (on ne trouve plus de 14 à blocage) 15 17-19-21-24-28-32
mais ça peut être aussi 13 (on ne trouve plus de 14 à blocage) 14 16-18-21-24-28-32
En 10 vitesses 13 14 15 16 17 19 21 24 28 32 Ouaaaahhh ! Ce serait bien...
😕
A+
PS : 34 c'est bien mais moins fréquemment (sauf sur piste en montagne... 😏 )
Devant : 22-32-42 ou 22-32-44
Derrière : 13 (on ne trouve plus de 14 à blocage) 15 17-19-21-24-28-32
mais ça peut être aussi 13 (on ne trouve plus de 14 à blocage) 14 16-18-21-24-28-32
En 10 vitesses 13 14 15 16 17 19 21 24 28 32 Ouaaaahhh ! Ce serait bien...
😕
A+
PS : 34 c'est bien mais moins fréquemment (sauf sur piste en montagne... 😏 )
Oui, je me rends compte que ce sont nos plateaux de 28 devant qui nous embêtent. Je ne sais pas si on peut les changer un par un, ce ne sont pas des pédaliers très haut de gamme. Je vais demander au vélociste. C'est vrai que quitte à avoir un 3ème plateau, autant qu'il soit très petit => un 22. C'est ce que j'avais avant 42/32/22 mais j'ai changé l'an dernier, pour avoir de plus grands développements sans savoir encore que j'irais au Kirghizstan cette année !
La cassette s'arrête à un pignon de 28 dents, je pense que je vais en ajouter 2 : 32 et 34. Et virer 2 petits.
@ vfpromeneur : pour les pneus, je ne les ai pas encore acheté, mais je crois effectivement que je vais prendre des Marathon XR en 700x42C car les pistes sont assez caillouteuses là-bas parait-il
La cassette s'arrête à un pignon de 28 dents, je pense que je vais en ajouter 2 : 32 et 34. Et virer 2 petits.
@ vfpromeneur : pour les pneus, je ne les ai pas encore acheté, mais je crois effectivement que je vais prendre des Marathon XR en 700x42C car les pistes sont assez caillouteuses là-bas parait-il
Aero
Ne monte pas un pignon de 32 et un de 34, tu ne feras pas la difference en cote. Comme tu as un 28, vire un petit et place un 32 après ton 28, et la, tu pourras sentir le difference.
Rien ne sert d'aller vite, il faut arriver à point.
Du moment que j'avance, je sais où je vais ... . Devant!
Perso. si je dois en arriver à devoir utiliser un 22 x 32 ou 34, je prefere marcher à coté de mon vélo. Ca va presque aussi "vite" et cela permet un peu de variété dans la ballade de temps en temps.
Soit: les braquets conçus pour "rouler" à 6 ou 7 km/h, je n'en ai pas.🙂
OK. Je monte un pignon de 32. Merci pour vos réponses. ça me fera un 28/32 x 2, 10 = 1, 83 m
@kangoo72 : quand on est chargé en cyclocamping, je préfère avoir ce qu'il faut. Et monter à 6-7 km/h, je connais, ça me dérange pas, si on peut mouliner comme il faut, c'est toujours moins chiant que de pousser son vélo (pis la fierté du cycliste !). Surtout qu'en poussant un vélo chargé, en côte, on ne doit pas marcher très vite non plus...
@kangoo72 : quand on est chargé en cyclocamping, je préfère avoir ce qu'il faut. Et monter à 6-7 km/h, je connais, ça me dérange pas, si on peut mouliner comme il faut, c'est toujours moins chiant que de pousser son vélo (pis la fierté du cycliste !). Surtout qu'en poussant un vélo chargé, en côte, on ne doit pas marcher très vite non plus...
Aero
d'accord avec aero mais c'est subjectif
je préfère mouliner à 6 km/h être à la limite de l'équilibre sur de la tôle ondulée que de devoir pousser un vélo car un vélo est prévu pour avancer avec les pédales et pas prévu pour être poussé. On se fait mal au dos et au bras. L'idéal serait de le tirer mais il faudrait un système de sangles et un système qui tienne le vélo debout, une sorte de béquille ski.
je préfère mouliner à 6 km/h être à la limite de l'équilibre sur de la tôle ondulée que de devoir pousser un vélo car un vélo est prévu pour avancer avec les pédales et pas prévu pour être poussé. On se fait mal au dos et au bras. L'idéal serait de le tirer mais il faudrait un système de sangles et un système qui tienne le vélo debout, une sorte de béquille ski.
En ce moment il y a en vente un 22x32x42 shimano deore ou lx je en sais plus chez décathlon
28X32 tu risques quand même de le trouver dur par moment (assez souvent en côte sur piste avec une machine chargée).
Il vaudrait mieux que tu complètes avec un 22-32-4x devant.
Sur mon VH, j'avais un 22 x 38 (fabriction perso) = 1, 08 m de braquet et j'ai bien aimé sur les raidillons. Il faut que rien ne te résiste.
Quand à pousser le vélo... ça ne doit rester qu'une situation exceptionnelle. Perso je m'y suis toujours refusé à partir du moment ou j'ai adapté mes braquets à mon parcours prévu.
A+
Sur mon VH, j'avais un 22 x 38 (fabriction perso) = 1, 08 m de braquet et j'ai bien aimé sur les raidillons. Il faut que rien ne te résiste.
Quand à pousser le vélo... ça ne doit rester qu'une situation exceptionnelle. Perso je m'y suis toujours refusé à partir du moment ou j'ai adapté mes braquets à mon parcours prévu.
A+
Ben oui, je vois bien que 1, 82 m de développement c'est pas si petit que ça. Faut que je vois si je peux changer un seul plateau sur mon pédalier.
Au fait Lepoune tu dois connaitre mon vélo, c'est le Gitane Orange présenté sur un autre forum ;-) (et oui je randonne avec ce clou en attendant mieux !)
Au fait Lepoune tu dois connaitre mon vélo, c'est le Gitane Orange présenté sur un autre forum ;-) (et oui je randonne avec ce clou en attendant mieux !)
Aero
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I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!