États-Unis: acheter son billet avant d'avoir l'ESTA
by Normande
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je me suis renseignée aujourd'hui pour un séjour à New York en octobre, les prix sont intéressants, mais mon petit fils (qui n'a pas le même nom de famille que moi) aura son passeport dans trois semaines.
La personne de l'agence me dit que je peux prendre mes billets maintenant, qu'elle n'a pas besoin de nos passeport.(jusque là, je suis d'accord.) mais si j'achète mes billets maintenant et que mes autorisations esta sont refusées, je perd tout.
Quelqu'un a t il acheté son billet avant d'avoir l'esta ?
Merci de vos réponses.
Bonjour,
Des milliers de gens l'ont fait (dont moi) mais comme vous ne pouvez pas être sure à 100% que vos demandes seront acceptées, il y a toujours un risque que vous perdiez vos billets. Maintenant, le risque que l'ESTA soit refusé est quand même (très) faible pour un enfant de 3 ans dont les chances qu'il soit "fiché" sont minces. Vu que vous avez votre passeport, vous pouvez toujours demander votre ESTA avant d'acheter le billet.
Bref, à vous de choisir entre les 2 risques que vous devez prendre: perdre vos billets ou les payer plus cher si vous attendez d'avoir les autorisations ESTA.
Des milliers de gens l'ont fait (dont moi) mais comme vous ne pouvez pas être sure à 100% que vos demandes seront acceptées, il y a toujours un risque que vous perdiez vos billets. Maintenant, le risque que l'ESTA soit refusé est quand même (très) faible pour un enfant de 3 ans dont les chances qu'il soit "fiché" sont minces. Vu que vous avez votre passeport, vous pouvez toujours demander votre ESTA avant d'acheter le billet.
Bref, à vous de choisir entre les 2 risques que vous devez prendre: perdre vos billets ou les payer plus cher si vous attendez d'avoir les autorisations ESTA.
Bonjour Sylvie,
je ne sais pas si c'est très prudent, mais j'ai toujours acheté mes billets avant de faire la demande d'ESTA
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse, j'y suis déjà allée mais par la route au départ de Montréal, cette autorisation on la rempli dans le car, je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes.
je ne sais pas si c'est très prudent, mais j'ai toujours acheté mes billets avant de faire la demande d'ESTA
Merci beaucoup pour ta réponse, j'y suis déjà allée mais par la route au départ de Montréal, cette autorisation on la rempli dans le car, je n'ai jamais eu de problèmes.
Euh... bonne question ! J'avoue je me l'être jamais posée ! J'ai toujours acheté nos billets avant l'ESTA sans souci.... pourvu que ça dure !! 😉
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Salut sylvie,
Nous sommes passées par agence de voyage pour les billets. Tu as besoins que de ton passeport pour faire la demande D'esta et de CB pour payer. Quand j'ai fais ma demande je n'avais pas les billets en plus c'était des billets électroniques donc sur une simple feuille à remettre lors de l'enregistrement.
Donc pas de souci garanti
Bonjour,
l'an dernier j'ai acheté des billets pour un voyage en mai 2014 et j'ai fait mon ESTA il y a tout juste un mois. En cas de refus, tu as toujours la possibilité de demander un visa. Donc à moins que tu aies qqch à te reprocher, pas bcp de risques 😉
l'an dernier j'ai acheté des billets pour un voyage en mai 2014 et j'ai fait mon ESTA il y a tout juste un mois. En cas de refus, tu as toujours la possibilité de demander un visa. Donc à moins que tu aies qqch à te reprocher, pas bcp de risques 😉
Faby
Bonjour,
Je pratique ainsi et je faisais également ma demande ESTA au dernier moment (pour quelle soit valable plus longtemps pour les fois suivantes !). Sauf que la dernière fois, toutes celles de la famille ont été acceptées... sauf celle de ma femme qui a été mise en attente avec réponse sous 3 jours. Gros moment d'angoisse qui s'est bien terminé heureusement.
Sachant que j'ai très rarement lu qu'une ESTA ait été définitivement refusée sans raison, j'ai à nouveau pris pour notre prochain voyage les billets avant d'avoir l'ESTA. Mais je te conseille de faire tes demandes ESTA au moins 2 mois à l'avance pour avoir le temps, en cas de refus (homonyme "black-listé, erreur dans une réponse à une question, ou autre), de réagir et de fournir toutes les preuves nécessaires.
Cordialement
Je pratique ainsi et je faisais également ma demande ESTA au dernier moment (pour quelle soit valable plus longtemps pour les fois suivantes !). Sauf que la dernière fois, toutes celles de la famille ont été acceptées... sauf celle de ma femme qui a été mise en attente avec réponse sous 3 jours. Gros moment d'angoisse qui s'est bien terminé heureusement.
Sachant que j'ai très rarement lu qu'une ESTA ait été définitivement refusée sans raison, j'ai à nouveau pris pour notre prochain voyage les billets avant d'avoir l'ESTA. Mais je te conseille de faire tes demandes ESTA au moins 2 mois à l'avance pour avoir le temps, en cas de refus (homonyme "black-listé, erreur dans une réponse à une question, ou autre), de réagir et de fournir toutes les preuves nécessaires.
Cordialement
Bonjour
J'ai toujours acheté mes billets d'avion avant de faire la ESTA
a mon bon souvenir !! il faut remplir des cases concernant le N° de vol , la compagnie, ainsi que les adresses des hotels à l'arrivée et au départ du séjour , , !
donc comment faire sans billet d'avion !!!
Bonne question !!!
J'ai toujours acheté mes billets d'avion avant de faire la ESTA
a mon bon souvenir !! il faut remplir des cases concernant le N° de vol , la compagnie, ainsi que les adresses des hotels à l'arrivée et au départ du séjour , , !
donc comment faire sans billet d'avion !!!
Bonne question !!!
Ok !!😉
Je suis sérieuse , je ne dis pas de mensonges 😛 surtout avec les autorités Américaines lol
Je suis sérieuse , je ne dis pas de mensonges 😛 surtout avec les autorités Américaines lol
je l'ai fais le 12.03.14 pour un départ le 24.03.14, j'ai l'esta sous les yeux il demande comme infos:
Nom de famille; Prénom; date de naissance; Pays de naissance; sexe; Pays où vous vivez; Pays de citoyenneté; adresse E-mail; n° de téléphonne; N° de passeport; passeport Pays de délivrance; passeport date d'émission; Passeport date d'expiration
Donc les champs obligatoire à remplir y'a une astérix rouge.
Ville ou vous embarquez, renseignement sur le transporteur n° de vol; adresse dans les EU ne sont pas des champs obligatoire (je n'ai rien rempli).
Après faut répondre aux question par oui ou non (mettre que des non).
Je l'ai fais chez moi après impression en tête de la feuille "ESTA Electronic System for Travel Authorization " Authorization Approved
Je l'ai fais chez moi après impression en tête de la feuille "ESTA Electronic System for Travel Authorization " Authorization Approved
Je me suis renseignée aujourd'hui pour un séjour à New York en octobre, les prix sont intéressants, mais mon petit fils (qui n'a pas le même nom de famille que moi) aura son passeport dans trois semaines.
La personne de l'agence me dit que je peux prendre mes billets maintenant, qu'elle n'a pas besoin de nos passeport.(jusque là, je suis d'accord.) mais si j'achète mes billets maintenant et que mes autorisations esta sont refusées, je perd tout.
Quelqu'un a t il acheté son billet avant d'avoir l'esta ?
Merci de vos réponses.
C'est une chance prendre.....que je ne prendrais pas !
C'est une chance prendre.....que je ne prendrais pas !
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Bon matin,
Je ne comprends pas ta réponse !!!
Simple pourtant , je répond à ta question , je te cite ;
"..mais si j'achète mes billets maintenant et que mes autorisations esta sont refusées, je perd tout.....
Je répond tout simplement ; "C'est une chance prendre.....que je ne prendrais pas ! ( d'acheter les billets AVANT d'avoir obtenu l'Esta )
Là c'est plus clair ? 😉
Simple pourtant , je répond à ta question , je te cite ;
"..mais si j'achète mes billets maintenant et que mes autorisations esta sont refusées, je perd tout.....
Je répond tout simplement ; "C'est une chance prendre.....que je ne prendrais pas ! ( d'acheter les billets AVANT d'avoir obtenu l'Esta )
Là c'est plus clair ? 😉
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Bon matin,
Très clair ta réponse, merci.
Je ne devais pas être dans un bon jour.
Je vois que tu habites au Québec, je connais un peu, j'y vais une fois par an depuis 2010, chez une amie montréalaise.
J'adore ton pays, mais je n'y suis jamais venue en hiver.
Bon matin à toi aussi mais vous êtes déjà dans l'après midi chez vous . 🙂
Évite l'hiver , mais il y en a qui pourrais aimer ça mais je ne le conseillerais jamais. Je déteste l'hiver .
Bon matin à toi aussi mais vous êtes déjà dans l'après midi chez vous . 🙂
Évite l'hiver , mais il y en a qui pourrais aimer ça mais je ne le conseillerais jamais. Je déteste l'hiver .
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
c'est parce que nous on dirait "c'est un risque à prendre"... et non pas une chance 😉
Faby
c'est parce que nous on dirait "c'est un risque à prendre"... et non pas une chance 😉
Étrange j'ai répondu hier ou même avant hier à un membre qui disais la même chose que toi et ni son intervention ni la mienne apparaisse sur le forum . Ce n'est pas la première fois qu'il y a des interventions qui s'efface du forum .
Je résumerais donc , on utilise aussi au Québec "c'est un risque à prendre " tout comme " c'est une chance a prendre ".
Mais beaucoup moins "c'est un risque à prendre " dans mon milieu du moins.
Étrange j'ai répondu hier ou même avant hier à un membre qui disais la même chose que toi et ni son intervention ni la mienne apparaisse sur le forum . Ce n'est pas la première fois qu'il y a des interventions qui s'efface du forum .
Je résumerais donc , on utilise aussi au Québec "c'est un risque à prendre " tout comme " c'est une chance a prendre ".
Mais beaucoup moins "c'est un risque à prendre " dans mon milieu du moins.
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
Je résumerais donc , on utilise aussi au Québec "c'est un risque à prendre " tout comme " c'est une chance a prendre ".Mais beaucoup moins "c'est un risque à prendre " dans mon milieu du moins.
Effectivement, sur VF on lit bcp plus souvent "c'est une chance à prendre" que c'est un risque...
Donc ça surprend les premières fois, mais après - en tant qu'habitués francophones non-canadiens - on finit par vous comprendre 😉
Effectivement, sur VF on lit bcp plus souvent "c'est une chance à prendre" que c'est un risque...
Donc ça surprend les premières fois, mais après - en tant qu'habitués francophones non-canadiens - on finit par vous comprendre 😉
Faby
Je résumerais donc , on utilise aussi au Québec "c'est un risque à prendre " tout comme " c'est une chance a prendre ".Mais beaucoup moins "c'est un risque à prendre " dans mon milieu du moins.
Effectivement, sur VF on lit bcp plus souvent "c'est une chance à prendre" que c'est un risque...
Donc ça surprend les premières fois, mais après - en tant qu'habitués francophones non-canadiens - on finit par vous comprendre 😉
Je n'avais pas remarqué . Pourtant il y a beaucoup plus d'Européens que de Québécois sur VF . Mais peut-être que nous utilisons cette expression à toute les sauces.😏😏
Effectivement, sur VF on lit bcp plus souvent "c'est une chance à prendre" que c'est un risque...
Donc ça surprend les premières fois, mais après - en tant qu'habitués francophones non-canadiens - on finit par vous comprendre 😉
Je n'avais pas remarqué . Pourtant il y a beaucoup plus d'Européens que de Québécois sur VF . Mais peut-être que nous utilisons cette expression à toute les sauces.😏😏
Le vol est trop important dans un voyage pour ne regarder que le prix.
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There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel





