Formalités administratives pour séjour dans plusieurs pays d'Asie
by Jplimo
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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bonjour
par anticipation je pose une question sur mon projet de voyage futur, ayant pour habitude de faire dans mon sejour en Asie plusieurs pays, je voudrai savoir si en arrivant par avion dans un pays qui se trouve encore dans le cadre de la protection covid et qui pratique le confinement, si j'arrive dans ce pays pour prendre une correspondance internationale et que mon transfert se fait dans la zone internationale sans sortir de cette zone , aurais je la possibilité de ne pas effectuer ce confinement
je sais que j'anticipe , mais soyons positive pour nos prochains sejours , car certains pays vont ouvrir leurs frontieres , quand ????
cette question est en priorité pour L'aéroport Bangkok qui me servira de plaque tournante, ma question concernant le visas quand nous sommes en transfert sur des vols internationaux et sans sortir de la zone internationale devons nous avoir un visa de ce pays
merci par avance jp
Jpl
Le gouvernement thaï ne sait déjà lui-même pas ce qu' il va décider pour la semaine prochaine, alors comment veux-tu qu' on te réponde ?
Quand on sait ce qu' on sait et qu' on a vu ce qu' on a vu, on a bien raison de penser ce qu 'on pense.
merci pour ta reponse , je sais que nous sommes dans le flou artistique pour ce pays , vous avez vous et les autres fait plus de 1000 post pour ne pas dire grand chose , pour résumer ma demande , je veux savoir hors COVID , si nous avions dans le passé l'obligation de présenter un visa dans une situation de transit dans un aeroport en utilisant la meme compagnie en arrivant d'un pays asiatique pour un autre pays tout en restant dans la zone internationale
Jpl
Je pense qu'il a parfaitement répondu à la question telle que tu l'a posée :
"... en arrivant par avion dans un pays qui se trouve encore dans le cadre de la protection covid et qui pratique le confinement...".
Tout change de jour en jour et ce qui était vrai avant le confinement ne sera peut être plus vrai après.
Donc wait and see est le meilleur et le seul conseil qu'on ait pu te donner !
"... en arrivant par avion dans un pays qui se trouve encore dans le cadre de la protection covid et qui pratique le confinement...".
Tout change de jour en jour et ce qui était vrai avant le confinement ne sera peut être plus vrai après.
Donc wait and see est le meilleur et le seul conseil qu'on ait pu te donner !
ok pour le retour , mais j'ai posé la question sur la situation PASSE avant le covid, concernant le transfert dans les aéroports , pour la situation actuel j'aviserai, pour votre info je prendrais acte de la situation de chaque pays
salut
Jpl
bjr
en ce qui concerne la situation passee en 2019
en transit a bangkok avec un billet unique en tant que titulaire d un passeport francais vous n auriez pas eu besoin de visa de transit
d autant que de toutes facons sur bangkok les francais beneficiaient d unee exemption de visa pour la thailande
ceci dit si votre destination finale etait pour un pays qui vous demandait un visa. (par ex Birmanie) et que vous n aviez pas ce visa vous auriez eu deja un soucis a l embarquement au depart du vol en france
et donc en 2019 il etait effectivement tres facile d utiliser bangkok comme aeroport pour rayonner dans les pays voisins (en entree sortie par avion)
un voyage commence des le premier jour ou l on en reve
ceci dit si votre destination finale etait pour un pays qui vous demandait un visa. (par ex Birmanie) et que vous n aviez pas ce visa vous auriez eu deja un soucis a l embarquement au depart du vol en france
et donc en 2019 il etait effectivement tres facile d utiliser bangkok comme aeroport pour rayonner dans les pays voisins (en entree sortie par avion)
un voyage commence des le premier jour ou l on en reve
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
merci pour ta reponse , je sais que nous sommes dans le flou artistique pour ce pays , vous avez vous et les autres fait plus de 1000 post pour ne pas dire grand chose ,
Bonjour,
Ce préalable acide n'aide pas à susciter les réponses, mais comme je ne me sens pas visé, je vais en poster une.
pour résumer ma demande , je veux savoir hors COVID , si nous avions dans le passé l'obligation de présenter un visa dans une situation de transit dans un aeroport en utilisant la meme compagnie en arrivant d'un pays asiatique pour un autre pays tout en restant dans la zone internationale
Dans le passé comme dans le présent, il n'y a pas de réponse simple à cette question simple. Faites des simulations sur Timatic (la base de données gérée par l'IATA, qu'utilisent tous ses membres) : vous comprendrez rapidement la complexité du problème. (Quelle nationalité, de quel pays vers quel pays en transitant où, en ayant séjourné où récemment, pour un séjour de combien de temps...?)
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/passport-visa-health-travel-document-requirements.htm#
Bonjour,
Ce préalable acide n'aide pas à susciter les réponses, mais comme je ne me sens pas visé, je vais en poster une.
pour résumer ma demande , je veux savoir hors COVID , si nous avions dans le passé l'obligation de présenter un visa dans une situation de transit dans un aeroport en utilisant la meme compagnie en arrivant d'un pays asiatique pour un autre pays tout en restant dans la zone internationale
Dans le passé comme dans le présent, il n'y a pas de réponse simple à cette question simple. Faites des simulations sur Timatic (la base de données gérée par l'IATA, qu'utilisent tous ses membres) : vous comprendrez rapidement la complexité du problème. (Quelle nationalité, de quel pays vers quel pays en transitant où, en ayant séjourné où récemment, pour un séjour de combien de temps...?)
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/passport-visa-health-travel-document-requirements.htm#
bonjour et merci pour ta réponse , il est vrais que pour mes voyages en 2019 j'ai profiter que nous français pouvions beneficier de cette avantage pour voyager dans plusieurs pays d'asie.
mais demain si on sort du contexte du COVID et que ces pays rétablissent le systeme de visas obligatoire ( oublions le confinement) , je voudrai savoir si je ne fais que passer en transit dans un pays sans sortir de la zone internationnale (pour prendre une autre destination avec visa du pays ou je me rends ) cela est il possible de passer sans visa , je dis bien si ce pays a etablis un visa obligatoire avant ou apres le covid,
salut
Jpl
Bjr la question du VISA DE TRANSIT est a traiter à part de la question du visa d'entrée
et il y aura donc des regles liées à l'entre en Thailande et d'autres regles liées à la situation des passagers en transit (comme c'était le cas en 2019 déjà pour certaines nationalités )
chaque pays a , a eu et aura, des conditions specifiques relatives a la question du passager en transit (quel passeport - quelle provenance quelle destination - quel type de billet - quelle duree prevue de transit - quelle duree maximum autorisée .....) Se pose aussi la question en cas de prolongation de la duree du transit - ( pour des motifs là encore tres variés) Enfin comme mentionné précédemment, dans un vol sont aussi impliquées les decisions de la compagnie a l EMBARQUEMENT au depart - (là encore suivant votre question- dans le cas ou vous avez un billet unique on non
bref votre question est beaucoup trop générale , ( meme une fois que la situation post Covid sera stabilisée)
Nombreux sont les cas ou par ex un voyageur d'un pays X arrive a se faire embarquer sur un vol, arrive à Bangkok et se voit refuser le transit ou l'entrée , se fait bloquer par l'Immigration , en situation administrative , puis se voit imposer une remise dans l'avion avec un vol vers le pays de retour ou vers un pays tiers ( quand il n'y a pas de vol direct vers son pays de residence et sous reserve que les conditions d'entrée dans le pays tiers soient favorables ) - et ceci encore sous reserve que la compagnie qui l'a laissé embarquer prenne en charge ses frais de retour- soit malheureusement quand il lui est alors demandé de payer cash un billet vers le pays du passeport - évidemment si possible un vol direct cher et là alors ( souvent le cas avec des voyageurs type ''backpack'' ou ''tour du monde'' ) qui n'ont pas les moyens de payer cash leur billet, et qui n'ont pas le moyen - etant en retention administrative - le moyen d'appeler un proche ou la famille pour leur acheter un billet sans mentionner en plus les frais de procédure judiciare que pourrait demader la Thailande
de tres nombreux cas de ce type sont repertoriés sur les forums depuis quelques années -
ceci dit - que tout cela ne vous empeche pas de rever a votre prochain voyage en 2021 ou 2022 :-)
chaque pays a , a eu et aura, des conditions specifiques relatives a la question du passager en transit (quel passeport - quelle provenance quelle destination - quel type de billet - quelle duree prevue de transit - quelle duree maximum autorisée .....) Se pose aussi la question en cas de prolongation de la duree du transit - ( pour des motifs là encore tres variés) Enfin comme mentionné précédemment, dans un vol sont aussi impliquées les decisions de la compagnie a l EMBARQUEMENT au depart - (là encore suivant votre question- dans le cas ou vous avez un billet unique on non
bref votre question est beaucoup trop générale , ( meme une fois que la situation post Covid sera stabilisée)
Nombreux sont les cas ou par ex un voyageur d'un pays X arrive a se faire embarquer sur un vol, arrive à Bangkok et se voit refuser le transit ou l'entrée , se fait bloquer par l'Immigration , en situation administrative , puis se voit imposer une remise dans l'avion avec un vol vers le pays de retour ou vers un pays tiers ( quand il n'y a pas de vol direct vers son pays de residence et sous reserve que les conditions d'entrée dans le pays tiers soient favorables ) - et ceci encore sous reserve que la compagnie qui l'a laissé embarquer prenne en charge ses frais de retour- soit malheureusement quand il lui est alors demandé de payer cash un billet vers le pays du passeport - évidemment si possible un vol direct cher et là alors ( souvent le cas avec des voyageurs type ''backpack'' ou ''tour du monde'' ) qui n'ont pas les moyens de payer cash leur billet, et qui n'ont pas le moyen - etant en retention administrative - le moyen d'appeler un proche ou la famille pour leur acheter un billet sans mentionner en plus les frais de procédure judiciare que pourrait demader la Thailande
de tres nombreux cas de ce type sont repertoriés sur les forums depuis quelques années -
ceci dit - que tout cela ne vous empeche pas de rever a votre prochain voyage en 2021 ou 2022 :-)
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
bonjour
je vous remercie pour avoir pris le temps de m'expliquer les problématiques des transits , je désirais dans ma démarche ne pas faire de demande de visas pour la Thailande, mais afin de ne pas me créer de problème je prendrais donc un visas pour ce pays afin de me servir de cet aéroport comme plaque tournante pour voyager , en espérant que le confinement soit débloquer sinon je choisirai un autre pays avec peut etre moins de contrainte , pour info quand je voyage , j'ai toujours mon billet de retour ( sur un pays ou j'ai pris la décision de mon retour en France) ce qui ne m'a jamais créer de problème lors de mes voyages aux frontiéres dans les rentrées en douanes
MERCI et bonne journée
Jpl
bjr
en regle generale un visa est attribue pour une seule entree sortie
On eu le siècle des Lumières,
puis un con a dû éteindre
ok je connais, mais peut etre en 2021 nous pourrons bénéficier de l'ancienne procédure mais c'est pas gagné ?????
Jpl
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Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale







