Par où traverser les Alpes à vélo en avril?
by Greg1501
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Je serai au Grand Bornand début Avril (à l'est d'Annecy) pour rejoindre la Slovénie, par où passer ? Entre les nationales, les tunnels, les cols, peut-être encore de la neige...je ne sais quel chemin prendre : remonter par la Suisse mais passer mon temps dans les montagne ou passer par l'Italie (par Chamonix ou Bourg Saint Maurice ou ailleurs ?) souffrir un peu puis être tranquille dans la plaine du Pau... Je ne sais que faire...
Début avril cetains cols risquent d'être encore fermés, notament le magnifique col Agnel qui débouche sur la plaine du Po, un de mes meilleurs souvenir de vélo au dessus de Bourg SZaint Maurice aussi Iseran Saint Bernard vérifie bien.
Tu peux toujours te rapprocher de Jean Gab pour voir si il n'a pas un système pour monter les peaux de phoques sur des pneus et partant de là quelques branchages et un tou dans la neige... Je m'égare.
Aujourdhui on commence à d'entrainer au froid petite bise du nord.
Bon Week End.
Tu peux toujours te rapprocher de Jean Gab pour voir si il n'a pas un système pour monter les peaux de phoques sur des pneus et partant de là quelques branchages et un tou dans la neige... Je m'égare.
Aujourdhui on commence à d'entrainer au froid petite bise du nord.
Bon Week End.
attention, la majorité des grands cols alpins entre Suisse ou France et Italie seront encore fermés en avril. Depuis Chamonix, le col des Montets rouvre en général courant avril. Ne comptez pas passer de Bourg St Maurice à l'Italie à vélo en avril. Depuis Briançon, le col du Mont Genèvre reste ouvert quasiment toute l'année mais du coup, il y a du transit, et l'itinéraire Annecy - Briançon en avril n'est pas des plus directs (Glandon et Galibier fermés)
La carte IGN de la Suisse donne une indication des dates de fermeture des cols, mais ça peut varier d'une année à l'autre. Pour des infos "en direct", voir le site du Touring Club Suisse ou swissinfo.ch
NB: via la Suisse, il y a toujours la possibilité de faire un bout de chemin à vélo et de franchir le col frontalier en train (tunnel ferroviaire du Gotthard ou du Simplon par exemple), pour pouvoir profiter de la région des lacs en Italie.
La carte IGN de la Suisse donne une indication des dates de fermeture des cols, mais ça peut varier d'une année à l'autre. Pour des infos "en direct", voir le site du Touring Club Suisse ou swissinfo.ch
NB: via la Suisse, il y a toujours la possibilité de faire un bout de chemin à vélo et de franchir le col frontalier en train (tunnel ferroviaire du Gotthard ou du Simplon par exemple), pour pouvoir profiter de la région des lacs en Italie.
😎 bonjour vu ma position geographique , je passerais par le montgenevre , car j envisage la slovenie egalement , (j habite BRIANCON )le mois de depart n est pas fixè encore , mais je pense que avril ou mai seras a l etude , , perso je ne vois que cela comme passage !! .En venant d ANNECY , par GRENOBLE ET LE LAUTARET et tu plonges dans la vallèe , reste a monter le montgenevre qui est assez facile et court ...a bientot
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Salut greg, l'option col des montets me semble bien. Je suis pas devin mais ayant travaillé en tant que chauffeur livreur(cluses/sallanches/chamonix/argentière/vallorcine), lorsque je ne pouvais pas emprunter le col, je déposais mes colis dans le train pour mes clients de vallorcine. Si la météo n'est vraiment pas super, sallanches/vallorcine en train. A+
Début ou fin avril?? A+
Merci pour les infos mais le Montgenèvre ça me paraît super loin, je n'avais pas prévu de descendre si bas. Je vais peut-être m'orienter sur le plan de jéjé51 et passer par le col des montets. En même temps c'est dans 3 mois, j'ai encore le temps de voir venir...
😎c est certain pour toi c est le plus pratique , , pour ma part ca seras le MONTGENEVRE , , mais en SLOVENIE , , ca grimpe pas mal aussi il parait ???? inch allah bonne semaine a toutes et tous byeeeeeee
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
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Salut Greg !
Le col des Montets est rarement fermé pendant la saison. Seules les périodes de chutes de neiges obligent la DDE a faire purger les mauvais couloirs puis a dégager la route.
Au mois d'Avril, ca ne serait vraiment pas de chance si c'était le cas...
Au pire, il reste la solution de passer par le tunnel sncf prévu en circulation alternée quand on ne peut pas faire autrement.
Salutations !
Tof.
Hello,
Pour ma part, je démarre début mars de la Drôme, j'ai opté pour passer par Gap, Embrun, Briançon et col de Montgenêvre. Inch'Allah comme on dit...
Après je traverse l'Italie du Nord et je file vers la Slovénie, Croatie...etc
Bonne route à tous
Pour ma part, je démarre début mars de la Drôme, j'ai opté pour passer par Gap, Embrun, Briançon et col de Montgenêvre. Inch'Allah comme on dit...
Après je traverse l'Italie du Nord et je file vers la Slovénie, Croatie...etc
Bonne route à tous
Cédric
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Le col de Montgenèvre, et plus généralement l'axe Marseille-Gap-Briançon-Turin est un "couloir à camions". (J'ai habité à Briançon pendant de nombreuses années). On peut éviter la route nationale jusqu'à Briançon. De l'autre côté du col, à partir d'Oulx où les camions reprennent l'autoroute qui sort du tunnel de Fréjus, c'est sûrement un peu mieux (jamais expérimenté, à voir). Cela dit les points de passage des Alpes à cette saison ne sont pas si nombreux.
Je profite de l'occasion, parce que ça m'a surpris, voire irrité, de rappeler que le col de Larche (Gap-Barcelonnette-Cuneo) est interdit aux vélos ! (il ne faudrait pas gêner les camions qui transportent des bananes de l'Allemagne à Marseille et les empêcher de croiser les camions qui transportent des bananes de Marseille à l'Allemagne) 🤪
Je profite de l'occasion, parce que ça m'a surpris, voire irrité, de rappeler que le col de Larche (Gap-Barcelonnette-Cuneo) est interdit aux vélos ! (il ne faudrait pas gêner les camions qui transportent des bananes de l'Allemagne à Marseille et les empêcher de croiser les camions qui transportent des bananes de Marseille à l'Allemagne) 🤪
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Salut, Greg !!!
Depuis le Grand Bornand, je ne ferai, pour ma part, pas de détours inutiles par les Hautes Alpes, remonterai vers Chamonix, franchirai cols des Grands Montets et Forclaz et remonterai toute la vallée du Rhône jusqu'à Brig. Là, deux possiblités pour rejoindre l'Italie et la plaine du Pô : soit le col du Simplon est ouvert et tu le franchis à vélo, entre deux murs de neige (souvenirs assurés), soit en cas de fermeture, tu mets tout dans le train jusqu'à Domodossola où tu peux reprendre le cours de ton voyage le long de tous ces magnifiques lacs italiens.
Bonne préparation.
En Avril tu as aussi le Mont-Cenis avec un passage original! http://www.migrationsenbent.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=12&Itemid=80
Merci à tous pour vos contributions !
Ça fait super plaisir de voir que vous mettez votre expérience au service des autres ! Bon OK c'est plein d'empathie ce que j'écris. Mais je tenais à le dire, on ne le dit jamais assez, c'est chouette cette solidarité, cette entraide, ce partage dans ce monde de brutes !
Si, si je suis sincère.
Bon en tout cas je garde toutes vos suggestions dans un coin et lorsque je serai, en mai, sur la route et en fonction de la météo et des circonstances je m'adapterai. Mais en tout cas je ne parts pas dans le vide ! Encore une fois merci ! Mais l'idée du col du montets me branche bien...Au fait c'est pas trop fréquenté ?
A plus Greg
A plus Greg
non c pas trop fréquenté, sois bien visible quand même, petit paravalanche avant argentière mais pas long donc lumière😉.
bon choix c super beau ce secteur.
En avril ne te découvre pas d'un fil dit l'adage
Mais il est possible de beneficier de bonnes conditions, .. parfois
j'opterai pour le parcours suivant le grand Bornand donc, Annecy, faverges albertville (piste cyclable tout le long depuis annecy) albertville aiton (petites routes) aiton st jean de maurienne (petites routes attenentes) st jean de maurienne st michel Modane (Rn mais ca va depuis que l'autoroute exsiste) et .. si le temps le permet et si le col est ouvert .. par le mont cenis et susa .
sinon, l'interet de ce parcours est que le train et les gares sont à deux roues gares à albertville .. st jean, st michel, modane donc si tu vois que le temps est mauvais ou le col fermé tu peux mettre le vélo dans le train et rejoindre l italie a Oulx ensuite te voila donc dans la vallee et en italie attention en italie ca craint un peu à vélo
Pour info : AJ a Lanslebourg claude
j'opterai pour le parcours suivant le grand Bornand donc, Annecy, faverges albertville (piste cyclable tout le long depuis annecy) albertville aiton (petites routes) aiton st jean de maurienne (petites routes attenentes) st jean de maurienne st michel Modane (Rn mais ca va depuis que l'autoroute exsiste) et .. si le temps le permet et si le col est ouvert .. par le mont cenis et susa .
sinon, l'interet de ce parcours est que le train et les gares sont à deux roues gares à albertville .. st jean, st michel, modane donc si tu vois que le temps est mauvais ou le col fermé tu peux mettre le vélo dans le train et rejoindre l italie a Oulx ensuite te voila donc dans la vallee et en italie attention en italie ca craint un peu à vélo
Pour info : AJ a Lanslebourg claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Salut, le seul passage ouvert tout l hiver et sans tunnel est Mongenevre. Voila !
Nathalie de www.migrationsenbent.fr Tu peux aller voir par ou on est passés mi Avril, mais il faut avoir quelques relations !!!
Nathalie de www.migrationsenbent.fr Tu peux aller voir par ou on est passés mi Avril, mais il faut avoir quelques relations !!!
Nathalie
😉hello debut mars correspont a peu pres avec mon depart pour la SLOVENIE et je passe par le MONTGENEVRE !!au cas ou tu as une date bien precise previens moi !!je suis de BRIANCON .A bientot 😇 ceci etant la reponse pour GREG
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
nous avons traverse la suisse a velo. il existe un site et des livres: la suisse a velo www.veloland.ch avec les routes pour velo, les astuces pour mieux passer les cols et les tunnels en train ou car postal, les hebergements.... la suisse est tres bien amenagee pour les velos. je ne peux pas donner de renseignement sur le cote francaise, desolee. si vous voulez d'autres renseignements pour la suisse n'hesitez pas a me contacter. cordialement
Salut Greg
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Bon moi vec le temps que tu as je n'irai pas me taper les Alpes au mois d'avril ! direction la côte et ensuite en Italie tu remontes vers les lacs et la Slovénie cela te fera peut être mai ou début juin le temps est idéal. La Provence fin Avril c'est peut être mieux que le gel à 2000. Bon maintenant il y a toujours des gens enfin pourquoi pas !
A plus
gabriel
Tout d'abord chapeau pour le trip
Bon moi vec le temps que tu as je n'irai pas me taper les Alpes au mois d'avril ! direction la côte et ensuite en Italie tu remontes vers les lacs et la Slovénie cela te fera peut être mai ou début juin le temps est idéal. La Provence fin Avril c'est peut être mieux que le gel à 2000. Bon maintenant il y a toujours des gens enfin pourquoi pas !
A plus
gabriel
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What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.




