Tour des Alpes par les grands cols, départ imminent (à vélo)
by Michdal
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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mon vélo est prêt... moi aussi entrainé.. et le temps devrait revenir au beau et chaud surtout au sud
tout est près pour un périple de 10 à 12 jours du Samedi 4 au mercredi 15 juin.. environ 1000 km par les grands cols (une quinzaine) suivant la météo..
o ...rage au désespoir..
seul en autonomie vélo 15 kg chargé..le minimum de quoi faire le maximum..
développement mini 30 / 30
hotel le soir non réservé bien sur car ca depend de la meteo..
je pars vendredi 3 juin de Paris en voiture avec le matériel pour me poser à bourg d oisans
Samedi 4 juin depart de bourg d' Oisans direction col Ornon
Valbonnais route Napoleon Corps col Bayard Gap Digne les Bains par le col de Maure et du Labouret..la Javie
St André des Alpes col d'Allos (superbe) Barcelonnette Col de la Cayolle(sauvage..) Col de Valberg(une vacherie de 14 km) Beuil
St Sauveur sur Tinée puis longue remontée vers le haut col de la Bonette...(dantesque sous orage..) toujours impressionnant et dur de ce côté..
Jausiers St Paul Ubaye Col de vars Guillestre puis direction Gorges du Guil (magnifique!) puis à gauche Col Izoard . Briançon..
la je freine car je pense y dormir!!
ensuite direction col du Lautaret, le terrible Galibier(mais plus facile de ce côté)
St Michel de Maurienne et longue très longue remontée vers le Col Izeran toujours terrible à cause des intempéries, froid, parfois neige..ect
et plongée vers Bourg St Maurice à 50 km de descente.. plein phare dans les tunnels!!
ensuite direction Col le Cormet de Rooslend magnifique lac un des plus beaux!
descente vers Albertville. puis La Léchère et la terrible montée vers le col de la Madeleine..par ce côté c'est pas du gateau descente vers
La Chambre et la longue montée vers le col du Glandon.. faudra pas glander..
descente tout schuss sur Bourg d'Oisans ..retour à m:a voiture.. et vers Paris..avant le mercedi 15 juin..
l'année dernière j ai eu beaucoup d orages chaud dans les valllées froid en haut! une fois l orage passé..et pas mal de pluie..
bon la j espère que ca ira mieux la météo..
bonne route à tous..à plus pour le compte rendu
Bravo : Belle bambée
attention à la neige .. cependant je ne sais si tous les cols sont ouverts comme la Bonette et gare à la météo .. elle est capricieuse at the moment
claudio .. de la Faverges
attention à la neige .. cependant je ne sais si tous les cols sont ouverts comme la Bonette et gare à la météo .. elle est capricieuse at the moment
claudio .. de la Faverges
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
le col de la bonette est ouvert fermé l izeran et la madeleine cormet de rooslend
je regarde les modeles météos de ce week end et la semaine prochaine dans les alpes..ils ont completement changé depuis hier.. c'est la catastrophe(moins que ceux qui sont inondés)..le champ de pression s est écroulé..c'est du mauvais temps dans les alpes quasiment toute la semaine..de la pluie et des orages tous les jours y compris mardi..donc je reste chez moi aujourd hui attends demain matin mais je ne vais pas au suicide...j en ai trop bavé l année dernière sous la pluie et les orages. en plus c est dangereux(eboulements de rochers..)vraiment pas de bol de temps pourri..j attends encore demain samedi matin..mais je crois que c est rapé.sinon je mets le cap a l ile d oleron sur le plat et au soleil..impossible de faire les alpes dans ces conditions..bon je suis en retraite fin aout et en septembre j aurai le temps et le choix du temps.. on ne peut rien faire contre la meteo..et en haute montagne ca devient vite catastrophique.pluie..chutes de neige au dessus de 2300 mètres..froid.orages..eboulemnets ect...le vélo est encore dans la voiture..pret mais pas la meteo..
je regarde les modeles météos de ce week end et la semaine prochaine dans les alpes..ils ont completement changé depuis hier.. c'est la catastrophe(moins que ceux qui sont inondés)..le champ de pression s est écroulé..c'est du mauvais temps dans les alpes quasiment toute la semaine..de la pluie et des orages tous les jours y compris mardi..donc je reste chez moi aujourd hui attends demain matin mais je ne vais pas au suicide...j en ai trop bavé l année dernière sous la pluie et les orages. en plus c est dangereux(eboulements de rochers..)vraiment pas de bol de temps pourri..j attends encore demain samedi matin..mais je crois que c est rapé.sinon je mets le cap a l ile d oleron sur le plat et au soleil..impossible de faire les alpes dans ces conditions..bon je suis en retraite fin aout et en septembre j aurai le temps et le choix du temps.. on ne peut rien faire contre la meteo..et en haute montagne ca devient vite catastrophique.pluie..chutes de neige au dessus de 2300 mètres..froid.orages..eboulemnets ect...le vélo est encore dans la voiture..pret mais pas la meteo..
de plus impossible de sortir de paris pour aller vers le sud-ouest periph fermé par endroit A10 coupée..A86 coupée ect..il faudra attendre la décrue pour se rendre vers le sud-ouest..dimanche ou lundi.. du jamais vu pour moi..
un tuyau pour ceux qui veulent savoir le temps (surtout la pluie) facilement vous tapez dans Google TOP KARTEN puis cliquez sur GFS Europa puis dans la ligne du haut sur "niederschlag" (pluie en allemand) ensuite dans la ligne du bas il y a les heures de validité par exemple vous cliquez sur 36 h et ious avez le jour indiqué de validité par exemple 36 h cela donne pour samedi midi..(modele de 00h cette nuit) alors vous voyez sur la carte de France et europe apparaitre en BLEU les pluies.. si vous voulez les températures vous cliquez en haut sur tempe min max et vous avec à 18H Tu les températures maximales et à 06TU mes minimales cela donne une idée..
c est facile d utilisation et ca vous permet dès le matin(a parir de 7 heures) d avoir les nouvellles prévisions pour le jour et jusqu a 15 jours, en sachant qu a partir de 8 jours c est moins fiable.. en ce moment le temps est détraqué et les modèles sont moins fiables la preuve ils ont beaucoup changé depuis hier au lieu d une semaine prochaine estivale ils montrent une semaine plus fraiche et encore de la pluie (en bleu) surtout sur l'est de la France et le nord, mieux vers l 'alantique et le sud-ouest.. en général c est assez fiable (à un semaine surtout) sauf en ce moment..donc à voir demain samedi matin à partir de 7 heures(pas avant) si les nouveaux modèless font les memes prévisions.. encore mieux pour des PREVISIONS DETAILLEES POUR LE JOUR MEME pour faire du vélo.. simple d emploi très fiable! vous tapez METEOCIEL dans Google puis dans le cadre de gauche un peu vers le bas y a ecrit modele à maille fine juste en dessous vous cliquez sur AROME MF et la vous avez la carte de France avec en bleu les précipitations pluie et plus c est vert ou jaune plus il pleut...jaune rouge c est des orages. a gauche vous faites défiler les heures avec le pointage de vortre souris.. que vous cherchez c est ecrit vau dessus pour quelle heure te quel jour vous regardez les pluies la c est un modele fin qui donnent de bonnes precisions de pluie pour l njournée et la nuit suivante jusqu au lendemain(un peu moins fiable pour le lendemain mais ca marche aussi..) ca vous permet pour randonner de savoir s il va pleuvoir et a partir de quelles heure.. aujourd hui vendredi 3 juin encore de la pluie et des orages sur l'est de la France jusqu aux Alpes..et ca va dure un bout de temps de plus il y a aussi la carte observation temps et aussi les températures observées, carte vigilance meteo France bonnes prévisions et bonnes randonnées au sec!
un tuyau pour ceux qui veulent savoir le temps (surtout la pluie) facilement vous tapez dans Google TOP KARTEN puis cliquez sur GFS Europa puis dans la ligne du haut sur "niederschlag" (pluie en allemand) ensuite dans la ligne du bas il y a les heures de validité par exemple vous cliquez sur 36 h et ious avez le jour indiqué de validité par exemple 36 h cela donne pour samedi midi..(modele de 00h cette nuit) alors vous voyez sur la carte de France et europe apparaitre en BLEU les pluies.. si vous voulez les températures vous cliquez en haut sur tempe min max et vous avec à 18H Tu les températures maximales et à 06TU mes minimales cela donne une idée..
c est facile d utilisation et ca vous permet dès le matin(a parir de 7 heures) d avoir les nouvellles prévisions pour le jour et jusqu a 15 jours, en sachant qu a partir de 8 jours c est moins fiable.. en ce moment le temps est détraqué et les modèles sont moins fiables la preuve ils ont beaucoup changé depuis hier au lieu d une semaine prochaine estivale ils montrent une semaine plus fraiche et encore de la pluie (en bleu) surtout sur l'est de la France et le nord, mieux vers l 'alantique et le sud-ouest.. en général c est assez fiable (à un semaine surtout) sauf en ce moment..donc à voir demain samedi matin à partir de 7 heures(pas avant) si les nouveaux modèless font les memes prévisions.. encore mieux pour des PREVISIONS DETAILLEES POUR LE JOUR MEME pour faire du vélo.. simple d emploi très fiable! vous tapez METEOCIEL dans Google puis dans le cadre de gauche un peu vers le bas y a ecrit modele à maille fine juste en dessous vous cliquez sur AROME MF et la vous avez la carte de France avec en bleu les précipitations pluie et plus c est vert ou jaune plus il pleut...jaune rouge c est des orages. a gauche vous faites défiler les heures avec le pointage de vortre souris.. que vous cherchez c est ecrit vau dessus pour quelle heure te quel jour vous regardez les pluies la c est un modele fin qui donnent de bonnes precisions de pluie pour l njournée et la nuit suivante jusqu au lendemain(un peu moins fiable pour le lendemain mais ca marche aussi..) ca vous permet pour randonner de savoir s il va pleuvoir et a partir de quelles heure.. aujourd hui vendredi 3 juin encore de la pluie et des orages sur l'est de la France jusqu aux Alpes..et ca va dure un bout de temps de plus il y a aussi la carte observation temps et aussi les températures observées, carte vigilance meteo France bonnes prévisions et bonnes randonnées au sec!
Cool et merci pour les liens météo et ces explications !
Moi qui habite dans les Alpes (Chartreuse à 1000m), c'est désespérant en ce moment, pluie, frais voire froid, humidité, là j'écris avec au delà de la fenêtre un brouillard à couper au couteau 😕.
Sauf erreur , Roselend, Iseran et Madeleine ont ouverts cette semaine mais pas très motivant avec cette météo.
Par chance (on l'espère), je pars demain avec ma femme pour 15 jours de vélo entre St Hilaire de Riez et Royan en passant par l'île d'Oléron et l'île de Ré. Les prévisions météo là bas semblent pour le moment plus favorables à notre pratique. On croise les doigts.
Sinon pour la météo, j'utilise http://www.windguru.cz/fr/ que je trouve pas trop mal (il utilise les modèles connus.
Sauf erreur , Roselend, Iseran et Madeleine ont ouverts cette semaine mais pas très motivant avec cette météo.
Par chance (on l'espère), je pars demain avec ma femme pour 15 jours de vélo entre St Hilaire de Riez et Royan en passant par l'île d'Oléron et l'île de Ré. Les prévisions météo là bas semblent pour le moment plus favorables à notre pratique. On croise les doigts.
Sinon pour la météo, j'utilise http://www.windguru.cz/fr/ que je trouve pas trop mal (il utilise les modèles connus.
Entrez libre et restez le
tu as raison d aller vers l atlantique il fera meilleur quand a la montagne en ce moment
froid et humide en altitude pas le top bonnes vacances..
j ai regardé ton site mais crois moi pour la pluie utilise AROME MF dans meteociel la tu as une vrai prévision..
le modele americain GFS aussi est bon a longue echeance..ca te donne une idee général..la dans ton site tu donnes une ville précise et l ordinateur te crache ce qu il veut ou peut..
et juste.
bon je travaille a meteo France et ca c est un de nos modeles.. ce qu on te donne c est une sortie brut d ordinateur ..très approximative et fausse dans le détail..les températures sont fausses comme Marseille.le temps aussi...il fera plus chaud que cela la semaine prochaine.. ect..il y a plein de sites comme cela dans internet.. tu tapes meteox dans Google et tu as les radars pluies en direct..bien pour le velo..
bon je travaille a meteo France et ca c est un de nos modeles.. ce qu on te donne c est une sortie brut d ordinateur ..très approximative et fausse dans le détail..les températures sont fausses comme Marseille.le temps aussi...il fera plus chaud que cela la semaine prochaine.. ect..il y a plein de sites comme cela dans internet.. tu tapes meteox dans Google et tu as les radars pluies en direct..bien pour le velo..
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Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance




