Si certains ont déjà fait cette remontée(ou descente) dans sa totalité, je serais intéressé par leur expérience et leurs conseils. Merci Luc
La Saône à vélo
by Lucbertrand
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour, envisageant une balade à vélo le long de la Saône de Lyon à sa source, 480km, je me demande sur quel pourcentage du parcours il est possible de rester au plus près de la rivière, soit par pistes cyclables, chemin de halage ou petites pistes afin d'utiliser au minimum les routes. Je connais déjà le début de Lyon à Villefranche.
Si certains ont déjà fait cette remontée(ou descente) dans sa totalité, je serais intéressé par leur expérience et leurs conseils. Merci Luc
Si certains ont déjà fait cette remontée(ou descente) dans sa totalité, je serais intéressé par leur expérience et leurs conseils. Merci Luc
depuis lyon il me semble que cela est possible sur du chemin de halage --> macon
ya d'ailleurs des projets
voit sur
af3v.org
dans ces liens
http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/macon/liens.php
http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/macon/ ensuite de chalon a -- j'ai fait au départ de châlon, c'est un chemin assez pourri mais en vtt vtc ca passe ensuite voie dite verte
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/sapaudia-canaux/recit-etape4.php
http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/macon/ ensuite de chalon a -- j'ai fait au départ de châlon, c'est un chemin assez pourri mais en vtt vtc ca passe ensuite voie dite verte
http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/sapaudia-canaux/recit-etape4.php
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour cbandiera pour ces renseignements. Il semble que le projet de piste cyclable est en cours.
Pour ceux que cela intéresse: j'ai pu consater que la piste cyclable du Rhône au nord de Lyon en direction de Genève avançait bien. Une dernière portion très agréable a été aménagée le long du Grand large, même si d'après le parcours prévu cette portion constitue une variante, mais je la conseille même si en toute rigueur sur cette portion suit le canal de Jonage et non le Rhône, mais en fait ce sont les deux bras d'un même cours d'eau. Luc
Pour ceux que cela intéresse: j'ai pu consater que la piste cyclable du Rhône au nord de Lyon en direction de Genève avançait bien. Une dernière portion très agréable a été aménagée le long du Grand large, même si d'après le parcours prévu cette portion constitue une variante, mais je la conseille même si en toute rigueur sur cette portion suit le canal de Jonage et non le Rhône, mais en fait ce sont les deux bras d'un même cours d'eau. Luc
Tu trouveras plus d' indications en tapant "voie bleue". Le site du tourisme en Bourgogne donne des renseignements sur les projets réalisés.
Sais-tu jusqu'où la véloroute du Rhône à vélo est praticable depuis Lyon?
Bonjour Viallou et merci pour le renseignement.
Concernant la véloroute du Rhône, la semaine dernière j'en ai fait une partie du côté de Culoz, je ne suis pas descendu jusqu'à Lyon car j'ai coupé vers Crémieu, mais un panneau indiquait Lyon par la vélo route. La portion effectuée le long du Rhône à peu près 60 km, où piste goudronnée et en terre alternaient, mais toujours bien roulant. J'ai écrit un petit texte avec qq photos qui te donneront une idée du style de piste:
http://mesbaladesetescalades.hautetfort.com/archive/2011/04/17/le-grand-colombier-et-velo-route-du-rhone.html
D'après ce que j'ai vu il y a aussi des tronçons aménagés entre Culoz et Genève. Il y a un topo asez précis sur le net.
J'ai aussi fait la partie Lyon confluent de l'Ain, il y a un chemin pratiquement tout le long même si parfois il est sportif et un peu dans la forêt ou parfois très étroit ce qui ressemble plus à du vélo cross mais c'est rigolo même avec des sacoches car nous partions pour une traversée des préalpes. Ces derniers mois l'arrivée sur Lyon sur une vingtaine de km au nord a été bien aménagé avec un passage superbe sur le bord est du Grand large.
Bonsoir Luc
pour la via rhona
tout est la
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/le-rhone-a-velo/
on y arrive en effet le bazar est lors de l'approche de lyon
mais avec les infos on y arrive
claudio
on y arrive en effet le bazar est lors de l'approche de lyon
mais avec les infos on y arrive
claudio
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonsoir Claude l'arrivée sur Lyon si on reste sur la rive gauche du canal de Jonage dès sa création, barrage plusieurs km au nord du plan d'eau le Grand large , et que l'on suit au plus près ce plan d'eau (avec le tout nouvel aménagement qui débute près du pont qui matérialise la partie nord de ce lac)), on est conduit automatiquement au centre de Lyon par une belle piste, cette portion doit bien faire une vingtaine de km, et Lyon à traverser avec ses quais aménagés c'est un grand plaisir, mais c'est vrai qu'après au sud une fois arrivé au port Edouard Herriot c'est l'aventure dans les voitures sans doute sur une bonne portion.
Bonsoir Luc
Salut.🙂 J’ai effectué en vélo tout le trajet le long de la Saône du PK 29 jusqu’au PK 407 (Corre) il y à 10 ans.
J’ai une relation particulière avec cette grande rivière, je ne me lasse pas.
J’ai fait le parcours au minimum à 80% par le chemin de halage, c’est extrémementnt variable, de la piste goudronnée a un chemin a peine visible dans les prairies, il y a de tout.
Demande des précisions, j’essayerai de répondre
Nous avons fait un parcours Nancy-Dole en juillet 2009.
Aprés avoir suivi le canal des Vosges depuis Epinal jusqu'à Fontenoy le Chateau + un peu de petite route, on a suivi la Saône de Corre à Auxonne.
Actuellement, entre Corre et Port sur Saône, rien d'aménagé. Il vaut mieux prendre en rive gauche par Ormoy (++) et Cendrecourt (passage à Jussey pour ravitaillement éventuel !). Ensuite, par la petite route qui va vers Venisey, prendre un chemin rural qui regagne le bord de Saône (en passant la voie ferrée) et longe la Saône vers Montureux les Baulay. Petite route vers Baulay, Port d'Atelier (!!), Chaux les Port (montée et trafic) avant d'arriver à Port sur Saône.
De là, il y a la véloroute des Rives de Saone jusqu'à Gray. Super. Revêtement variable mais roulant dans l'ensemble.
A Gray, on a pris en bord de Saône en rive gauche jusqu'à Velet, puis des petites routes vers Apremont. De là, en passant la Saône et en tournant juste à gauche aprés, on prend une petite route qui mène tranquillement vers Essertenne et Cecey.
On peut regagner Talmay soit par le bord de Saône (rive droite) par un chemin de forêt, soit par la route principale.
A Heuilley sur Saône, on retrouve une partie aménagée vers Auxonne. A partir de Pontailler sur Saône, l'itinéraire fait des tours et détours dans la campagne, agréables malgré tout (!). La partie au Nord de Auxonne est aussi sympa.
Aprés, petites routes jusqu'à croiser le canal du Rhône au Rhin où on récupère le chemin de halage qui vient de St Jean de Losne (et aussi l'EV6 qui file vers la Franche-Comté, et l'Alsace, et ....).
Aprés, je ne sais pas trop mais il ya une portion aménagée entre Verdun sur le Doubs et Gergy et la Voie Bleue de Saône et Loire (ou la fameuse Voie Verte Givry-Cluny/Charnay les Macon).
A lire dans l'autre sens pour remonter la Saône !! Bon, pas obligé de mettre les roues sur la trace de nos roues ! Mais si ça peut aider.
Pour info : cet itinéraire fait partie d'un grand itinéraire à développer entre la Mer du Nord et la Méditerranée : Den Helder-Amsterdam-Maastricht (LF7), Aachen (D), Hautes Fagnes en Belgique (Vehnbahn route en cours de réalisation), traversée Nord-Sud du Luxembourg, traversée Nord-Sud de la Lorraine (vallée de la Moselle + canal des Vosges), la partie décrite ici, liaison vers Lyon et Via Rhôna jusqu'à la Méditerranée. Un beau parcours de presque 1 300 km. Un jour peut être !!
A lire dans l'autre sens pour remonter la Saône !! Bon, pas obligé de mettre les roues sur la trace de nos roues ! Mais si ça peut aider.
Pour info : cet itinéraire fait partie d'un grand itinéraire à développer entre la Mer du Nord et la Méditerranée : Den Helder-Amsterdam-Maastricht (LF7), Aachen (D), Hautes Fagnes en Belgique (Vehnbahn route en cours de réalisation), traversée Nord-Sud du Luxembourg, traversée Nord-Sud de la Lorraine (vallée de la Moselle + canal des Vosges), la partie décrite ici, liaison vers Lyon et Via Rhôna jusqu'à la Méditerranée. Un beau parcours de presque 1 300 km. Un jour peut être !!
Merci à tous les deux, Nicolas 54 et Rheinweg pour vos informations précises. Luc
bonjour
et après macon pour rejoindre lyon, je passe par ou?? en vélo
MERCI
Salut.🙂 A Mâcon, prendre le chemin de halage qui se trouve rive droite sur la commune de Saint Laurent, le chemin de halage est transformé en route jusqu’à Port de By (4 ou 5 Km) puis ensuite prendre le chemin de terre qui se trouve entre la Saône et le restaurant du Port de By (Très bonne friture), ce chemin t’emmènera vers Genay, fin de ce chemin à 24 Km de Lyon, prendre la D 933 pour la suite.
Sur le parcours de Port de By à Genay, le chemin est coupé, la première fois à Cormoranche sur Saône par une extraction de sable en lit majeur, mais il y a un chemin qui contourne cet obstacle, ensuite c’est à Thoissey par un camping, tu le contournes par l’intérieur de cette petite ville, rependre la D933 et prendre un chemin sur la gauche à la sortie sud de la ville sur la droite. A Beauregard et jusqu'à Jassans, le chemin de halage est absorbé par la D933, pas d »échappatoire possible ; de Jassans reprendre le chemin de halage sur la droite de la 933.
et après macon pour rejoindre lyon, je passe par ou?? en vélo
MERCI
Salut.🙂 A Mâcon, prendre le chemin de halage qui se trouve rive droite sur la commune de Saint Laurent, le chemin de halage est transformé en route jusqu’à Port de By (4 ou 5 Km) puis ensuite prendre le chemin de terre qui se trouve entre la Saône et le restaurant du Port de By (Très bonne friture), ce chemin t’emmènera vers Genay, fin de ce chemin à 24 Km de Lyon, prendre la D 933 pour la suite.
Sur le parcours de Port de By à Genay, le chemin est coupé, la première fois à Cormoranche sur Saône par une extraction de sable en lit majeur, mais il y a un chemin qui contourne cet obstacle, ensuite c’est à Thoissey par un camping, tu le contournes par l’intérieur de cette petite ville, rependre la D933 et prendre un chemin sur la gauche à la sortie sud de la ville sur la droite. A Beauregard et jusqu'à Jassans, le chemin de halage est absorbé par la D933, pas d »échappatoire possible ; de Jassans reprendre le chemin de halage sur la droite de la 933.
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Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!