Grenoble - Lus-la-Croix-Haute à vélo par les petites routes
by Yakirou
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Salut,
Pour faire un itinéraire de Haute Savoie et rejoindre le Diois, puis le sud surement par le Vaucluse et les combes au pied du Ventoux, nous souhaitons faire le tronçon GRENOBLE - LUS la CROIX HAUTE... mais uniquement par des petites routes, sans circulation... car nous sommes avec des enfants, et pour plus de plaisir 😛
Merci de vos idées de parcours, pour ceux qui connaissent le coin!
J'ai bien vu le parcours de Claudio: http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2014-giens/e2.php , mais trop de grosses routes dangereuses, et surement peu intéressantes?
Quelques idées aussi ici: https://www.cyclos-cyclotes.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=928
le trafic est très variable sur cette route. Les wek-end de "transhumance touristique" sont bien sûr très chargés, mais le matin en semaine c'est plutôt calme. Le fait que la route soit doublée par une bout d'autoroute jusqu'à Monestier joue aussi. Ceci dit, si vous voulez être vraiment tranquilles, vous pouvez éviter la départementale, mais au prix de pas mal de détours dont certains augmenteront beaucoup le dénivelé. Si vous avez assez de temps, pourquoi pas ! Mais pour choisir les détours, le mieux serait que vous regardiez une carte détaillée (sur le net ou IGN échelle 100k), je ne trouve pas l'itinéraire très facile à résumer.
De Grenoble à Claix vous pouvez passer par la piste cyclable le long du Drac (tronçon sud non goudronné), ou aller de Grenoble à Varces par le petit col de Cossey , ou encore prendre une petite départementale entre Echirolles, Champoagnier et Saint Georges de Commier. Ensuite si vous voulez éviter la route principal D1075 jusqu'au col du Fau, vous pouvez faire le détour par D8 (Miribel Lanchatre) + D8A (Gresse en Vercors, éventuellement jusqu'à Chichilianne pour rejoindre Clelles). C'est joli et tranquille mais ça ajoute pas mal de dénivelé. Après, les itinéraires d'évitement font encore plus de détour et de dénivelé, et le tronçon de D1075 au sud de Clelles est quand même plutôt calme, sauf aux heures de pointe de week-end.
De Grenoble à Claix vous pouvez passer par la piste cyclable le long du Drac (tronçon sud non goudronné), ou aller de Grenoble à Varces par le petit col de Cossey , ou encore prendre une petite départementale entre Echirolles, Champoagnier et Saint Georges de Commier. Ensuite si vous voulez éviter la route principal D1075 jusqu'au col du Fau, vous pouvez faire le détour par D8 (Miribel Lanchatre) + D8A (Gresse en Vercors, éventuellement jusqu'à Chichilianne pour rejoindre Clelles). C'est joli et tranquille mais ça ajoute pas mal de dénivelé. Après, les itinéraires d'évitement font encore plus de détour et de dénivelé, et le tronçon de D1075 au sud de Clelles est quand même plutôt calme, sauf aux heures de pointe de week-end.
Bonjour,
Effectivement pas facile de sortir de Grenoble par le sud.
Le plus court en distance et dénivelé est tout de même de prendre la nationale depuis le col du Fau. Il n'y a que 15 km de nationale relativement tranquille en semaine jusqu'à la bifurcation vers le col de menée... (D+ 1800m jusqu'à aix en diois)
Un autre itinéraire possible est par exemple Saint-Georges de commiers => notre dame de commiers => la motte saint-martin => longer le lac du monteynard par une chouette petite route, traverser le drac au barrage EDF, remonter vers Mens, Prébois, Lalley, quelques km de nationale jusqu'à la bifurcation vers le col de Grimone et descente dans Diois... Evidemment ça rajoute du dénivelé par rapport à la route nationale (2500D+ de grenoble à Aix en diois).
Une année, je suis parti vers la Camargue de Grenoble en sortant de grenoble par la piste cyclable de saint-Egrève, j'ai rejoint le col de léoncel (superbe pour les bivouacs) et descendu le lendemain à Crest => puis traversée de la provence. la montée vers Léoncel est longue mais pas trop pentue... (voir sur mon blog)
Sinon il y aussi le passage de Mens à Pellafol puis col de festrière, rejoindre veynes puis col de cabré : super tranquille et très beau, mais évidemment c'est beaucoup plus long :-)
Voila,
bon travail de préparation
Thierry
Effectivement pas facile de sortir de Grenoble par le sud.
Le plus court en distance et dénivelé est tout de même de prendre la nationale depuis le col du Fau. Il n'y a que 15 km de nationale relativement tranquille en semaine jusqu'à la bifurcation vers le col de menée... (D+ 1800m jusqu'à aix en diois)
Un autre itinéraire possible est par exemple Saint-Georges de commiers => notre dame de commiers => la motte saint-martin => longer le lac du monteynard par une chouette petite route, traverser le drac au barrage EDF, remonter vers Mens, Prébois, Lalley, quelques km de nationale jusqu'à la bifurcation vers le col de Grimone et descente dans Diois... Evidemment ça rajoute du dénivelé par rapport à la route nationale (2500D+ de grenoble à Aix en diois).
Une année, je suis parti vers la Camargue de Grenoble en sortant de grenoble par la piste cyclable de saint-Egrève, j'ai rejoint le col de léoncel (superbe pour les bivouacs) et descendu le lendemain à Crest => puis traversée de la provence. la montée vers Léoncel est longue mais pas trop pentue... (voir sur mon blog)
Sinon il y aussi le passage de Mens à Pellafol puis col de festrière, rejoindre veynes puis col de cabré : super tranquille et très beau, mais évidemment c'est beaucoup plus long :-)
Voila,
bon travail de préparation
Thierry
Pourquoi vouloir absolument soulever des montagnes alors qu'il est si simple de passer par dessus.
http://onbaik.blogspot.fr
http://onbaik.blogspot.fr
en effet, cest bien :
"
Une année, je suis parti vers la Camargue de Grenoble en sortant de grenoble par la piste cyclable de saint-Egrève, j'ai rejoint le col de léoncel (superbe pour les bivouacs) et descendu le lendemain à Crest => puis traversée de la provence. la montée vers Léoncel est longue mais pas trop pentue..."
I agree
claudio
claudio
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Salut
un peu de voitures dans la montée de Notre-Dame de Commiers mais très raisonnable (route bis pour monter à la mure). Ensuite plus personne. La partie de la route au dessus du lac est très jolie en effet. Le Triève aussi c'est tranquille. Je ne me souviens plus trop de la pente, c'est tout de même un peu plus soutenu par moment que la route directe.
A+
Thierry
un peu de voitures dans la montée de Notre-Dame de Commiers mais très raisonnable (route bis pour monter à la mure). Ensuite plus personne. La partie de la route au dessus du lac est très jolie en effet. Le Triève aussi c'est tranquille. Je ne me souviens plus trop de la pente, c'est tout de même un peu plus soutenu par moment que la route directe.
A+
Thierry
Pourquoi vouloir absolument soulever des montagnes alors qu'il est si simple de passer par dessus.
http://onbaik.blogspot.fr
http://onbaik.blogspot.fr
claudio did it
cbandiera.free.fr/...averges-sete/17.html en 2010
cbandiera.free.fr/...-2010/index.php?N1=1
7 ans de moins et 7 kg de moins
vizille .. drac commiers en effet puis bosse de 10 km a 3 pc, ca va, mais longue et chaud puis tres beau trieves 500 m de delta H comme disaient les profs en 1980 ! mens, encore ql bosses puis montée finale au col 5.7 km sur grde rte mais bandelette cyclable en montant ! (Geai compté )


cbandiera.free.fr/...averges-sete/17.html en 2010
cbandiera.free.fr/...-2010/index.php?N1=1
7 ans de moins et 7 kg de moins
vizille .. drac commiers en effet puis bosse de 10 km a 3 pc, ca va, mais longue et chaud puis tres beau trieves 500 m de delta H comme disaient les profs en 1980 ! mens, encore ql bosses puis montée finale au col 5.7 km sur grde rte mais bandelette cyclable en montant ! (Geai compté )


Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour amis cyclistes
Effectivement la sortie de Grenoble par le Sud n'est pas simple. Une autre solution serait de rejoindre Séchilienne depuis Vizille (6 kilomètres sur la RN91 seulement) puis possibilités de rouler que sur des petites routes tranquilles.
Séchilienne - St Barthélémy - Laffrey - Cholonge - Nantes en ratier - La Mure (4 kilomètres sur la RN85) - le pont de Ponsonnas - Mens - Lalley et Lus la croix haute
Des payasages superbes avec bien-sûr un peu plus de déniv+ mais ça vaut vraiment le coup.
Ne pas négliger le site Warmshowers pour que les enfants puissent passer une bonne nuit (et les parents aussi du coup)
bonne recherche et bonne plannification
Bonjour
Nous avons fait, en famille durant l'été dernier, un trajet en vélo d'Annecy jusqu'à la côte d'azur avec des vélos de randonnées
Ce fut une super expérience
J'en ai fait un film que j'ai mis sur Youtube à l'adresse suivante:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lahxzxm0aho
Ps: Dans le générique de fin, vous trouverez le détail du trajet que nous avons effectué
N'hésitez pas à nous recontactez si vous avez des questions Ce sera un plaisir de vous renseigner
Cordialement Jacques
Nous avons fait, en famille durant l'été dernier, un trajet en vélo d'Annecy jusqu'à la côte d'azur avec des vélos de randonnées
Ce fut une super expérience
J'en ai fait un film que j'ai mis sur Youtube à l'adresse suivante:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lahxzxm0aho
Ps: Dans le générique de fin, vous trouverez le détail du trajet que nous avons effectué
N'hésitez pas à nous recontactez si vous avez des questions Ce sera un plaisir de vous renseigner
Cordialement Jacques
Tres sympa votre film . Un vrai plaisir de le visionner.
Vous n'avez pas pris le chemin le plus facile par moments !
Un petit clin d'oeil pour les boites a lettres au col de Bluffy. Je m'arrete a chaque fois devant , je trouve ça trop joli !
Tof.
Tof.
bonjour Yakirou
Je trouve ce sujet un peu tard peut etre, vous etes peut etre déjà partis ? le plus direct , je vous conseille d'aller : 1 / de grenoble à vif par la plaine de reymure, routes goudronnées mais avec mauvais rendement et peu de circulation 2 / Vif , D8 , juste avant le gua , prendre à gauche et rejoindre la D1075 aux Benais (ca grimpe mais la route est tranquille) 3 / des Benais à Coynelle, suivre D1075, quasiment plat 4 / Coynelle, prendre D110, Collet de Sinard et redescente à Monestier de Clermont 5 / Monestier de Clermont , Col du Fau, D34 à gauche Roissard en descente 6 / A l'entrée de Roissard, prendre à droite, martine , les peyrouses et vous traversez la D1075 et de suite à droite 7 / Saint Michel les Portes, prendre D8 direction Gresse en Vercors 8 / au moment où la route fait son epingle sur la droite, il y a sur la gauche un parking avec deux routes . Celle tout droit file vers le parc acrobranche, on l'oublie, prendre l'autre qui n'est pas fléchée! Cette piste non revetue est faisable en velo de route en pneus de 23, elle passe aux cols des pelas et du Fanget avant de rejoindre Trezanne où vous retrouvez le goudron. Passage à la descente du col du rocher. suivre D7B et D7 sur la gauche , puis D7A. Nouvelle traversée de la D1075, arrivée à Clelles 9 / Passer le village et dès la fin de celui ci, prendre à droite la route goudronnée. Suivre tout droit, vous perdez le goudron au niveau d'une maison. Apres une montée sur un chemin herbeux, vous aborderez une descente assez raide gravillonnée à aborder à pied avec les enfants, vous arrivez à longefonds... 10 / suivre le Percy, puis le monestier de Percy , puis Saint Maurice en Trieves , col de Tournod et Lalley 11 / Lalley, c'est ici la plus belle partie du parcours ! prendre D66 , et D216a à droite du D216, chateau bas. Poursuivre sur la route et vous aurez devant vous le grand ferrand 12 / Au terme d'une ligne droite , la route file à gauche mais une piste goudronnée file tout droit vers l'aire de pique nique du Grand Ferrand. Le goudron devient approximatif... 13 / Aire de pique nique du grand ferrand: perte du goudron. sur votre gauche, une fontaine avec une cabane où l'on peut dormir et sur laquelle on rappelle ce qu'ont été les maquis pendant la résistance. Tres instructif en terme de cyclotourisme... Poursuivre la route en pierre qui grimpe. la seule difficulté est le passage sur ce pont qui est plein de pierre, le passer à pied. 14 / passage au col du deves et vous entrez ensuite dans l'alpage du col de la croix. passer à pied et refermez la barriere derriere vous! passage au col de la croix, certainement à pied car la montée est raide. Sur votre droite , la pointe feuillette et le collet de la pointe feuillette. Grandiose sans aucune voiture. En hiver, en raquette, cet endroit est synomyne du paradis! 15 / le passage delicat est ici en descente car il faut marcher à coté du vélo. suivre tout droit, d'abord dans l'herbe et ensuite en descente où vous trouverez l'autre porte de l'alpage . Le Sentier est ensuite tracé. Marchez à coté du vélo. J'y suis passé prudemment en sandales et velo de route sans me tordre les chevilles pour vous donner une idée. Comptez 40 mn de descente et suivre le GR par Saboyer dans le ravin des lavassieres. Vous retrouverez une piste cyclable en herbe avant la grange des forets et le goudron ici meme pour rejoindre le village de lus la croix haute par D504. hotels et service ici...
vous etes ici sous le col de la croix haute. mes indications s'arretent ici, je ne suis pas allé plus bas, peut etre la suite plus tard je dispose des traces GPS si vous etes interessés, elles sont aussi sur strava! bonne continuation jean-philippe Battu Grenoble http://jeanpba.homeip.net
Je trouve ce sujet un peu tard peut etre, vous etes peut etre déjà partis ? le plus direct , je vous conseille d'aller : 1 / de grenoble à vif par la plaine de reymure, routes goudronnées mais avec mauvais rendement et peu de circulation 2 / Vif , D8 , juste avant le gua , prendre à gauche et rejoindre la D1075 aux Benais (ca grimpe mais la route est tranquille) 3 / des Benais à Coynelle, suivre D1075, quasiment plat 4 / Coynelle, prendre D110, Collet de Sinard et redescente à Monestier de Clermont 5 / Monestier de Clermont , Col du Fau, D34 à gauche Roissard en descente 6 / A l'entrée de Roissard, prendre à droite, martine , les peyrouses et vous traversez la D1075 et de suite à droite 7 / Saint Michel les Portes, prendre D8 direction Gresse en Vercors 8 / au moment où la route fait son epingle sur la droite, il y a sur la gauche un parking avec deux routes . Celle tout droit file vers le parc acrobranche, on l'oublie, prendre l'autre qui n'est pas fléchée! Cette piste non revetue est faisable en velo de route en pneus de 23, elle passe aux cols des pelas et du Fanget avant de rejoindre Trezanne où vous retrouvez le goudron. Passage à la descente du col du rocher. suivre D7B et D7 sur la gauche , puis D7A. Nouvelle traversée de la D1075, arrivée à Clelles 9 / Passer le village et dès la fin de celui ci, prendre à droite la route goudronnée. Suivre tout droit, vous perdez le goudron au niveau d'une maison. Apres une montée sur un chemin herbeux, vous aborderez une descente assez raide gravillonnée à aborder à pied avec les enfants, vous arrivez à longefonds... 10 / suivre le Percy, puis le monestier de Percy , puis Saint Maurice en Trieves , col de Tournod et Lalley 11 / Lalley, c'est ici la plus belle partie du parcours ! prendre D66 , et D216a à droite du D216, chateau bas. Poursuivre sur la route et vous aurez devant vous le grand ferrand 12 / Au terme d'une ligne droite , la route file à gauche mais une piste goudronnée file tout droit vers l'aire de pique nique du Grand Ferrand. Le goudron devient approximatif... 13 / Aire de pique nique du grand ferrand: perte du goudron. sur votre gauche, une fontaine avec une cabane où l'on peut dormir et sur laquelle on rappelle ce qu'ont été les maquis pendant la résistance. Tres instructif en terme de cyclotourisme... Poursuivre la route en pierre qui grimpe. la seule difficulté est le passage sur ce pont qui est plein de pierre, le passer à pied. 14 / passage au col du deves et vous entrez ensuite dans l'alpage du col de la croix. passer à pied et refermez la barriere derriere vous! passage au col de la croix, certainement à pied car la montée est raide. Sur votre droite , la pointe feuillette et le collet de la pointe feuillette. Grandiose sans aucune voiture. En hiver, en raquette, cet endroit est synomyne du paradis! 15 / le passage delicat est ici en descente car il faut marcher à coté du vélo. suivre tout droit, d'abord dans l'herbe et ensuite en descente où vous trouverez l'autre porte de l'alpage . Le Sentier est ensuite tracé. Marchez à coté du vélo. J'y suis passé prudemment en sandales et velo de route sans me tordre les chevilles pour vous donner une idée. Comptez 40 mn de descente et suivre le GR par Saboyer dans le ravin des lavassieres. Vous retrouverez une piste cyclable en herbe avant la grange des forets et le goudron ici meme pour rejoindre le village de lus la croix haute par D504. hotels et service ici...
vous etes ici sous le col de la croix haute. mes indications s'arretent ici, je ne suis pas allé plus bas, peut etre la suite plus tard je dispose des traces GPS si vous etes interessés, elles sont aussi sur strava! bonne continuation jean-philippe Battu Grenoble http://jeanpba.homeip.net
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This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉