Vous allez dire: "Et encore 1 de plus". Mais ce voyage semble tellement difficile à organiser. Tout d'abord, les noms sont difficiles à retenir que l'on s'y perd un peu. Puis tellement de questions; faut-il commencer par Tokyo ou Kyoto? Combien de jours faut-il rester à Tokyo ou Kyoto?
De plus, Kyoto présente des sites qui sont éloignés avec tellement de temples que l'on a du mal à organiser un programme qui servira au final que de base de découverte.
Bon au final, ce sera Tokyo puis Kyoto. Pour Tokyo, je me suis un petit programme par quartier afin de limiter les aller/retour entre les sites: Shibuya/Shinjuku - Asakusa/Ueno/Yanaka - Marché aux poissons/Odaiba/Ginza.
Mais pour Kyoto, j'ai du mal à faire un peu de tri dans ce que j'ai pu lire. Vous trouverez ci-dessous ce que j'imagine mais quelques conseils ne manqueront pas pour mettre un peu d'ordre et modifier et/ou supprimer quelques visites en trop:
Jour 1: Visite de Higashiyama:
- Le temple bouddhiste de Kiyomizu-dera. A proximité, le Jishu-jinga qui abrite les célèbres « pierres d’amour ». Avant d’entrer dans l’enceinte actuelle, chercher le Tainai-Meguri, dont l’entrée est juste à gauche.
- A proximité, le nene no michi avec ses ruelles traditionnelles et ses multiples échoppes.
- Le temple Kodai-ji (éclairé le soir) avec son étang, sa foret de bambous, son joli pont et 4 maisons de thé dont 3 anciennes.
- Le Yasaka-jinja, à deux pas, et accolé au fameux Maruyama-Koen – parc avec étang, boutiques desouvenirs et restaurants.
- Le Chion-in immense temple le plus grand centre bouddhisme du Japon.
- Le Shoren-in, un petit temple avec un magnifique jardin.
En poursuivant sa route (nord du quartier de Higashiyama), visite du Heian-jingu; temple avec une vaste cour ornée de beaux bâtiments flambloyants de rouge et de vert, ses 5 magnifiques jardins ainsi que son magnifique étang et le beau pont couvert Taihei-haku menant au batiment principal, le shobi kan, sur le bord de l’étang.
- Le Nanzen-ji.
- Le Tetsugaku-no-Michi - chemin de la philosophie qui commence au nord de l’Eikan-do et s’achève auGinkaju-ji.
- Et enfin pour terminer, le Ginkaku-ji.
Après cette journée qui me semble longue sur le papier, je me dis pourquoi ne pas aller déambuler dans Gion aux bords de la Shirakawa et dans Pontocho.
Cette journée est-elle réalisable? Elle me semble bien longue. Faut-il faire certaines parties du parcours en bus pour limiter la marche à pieds.
Jour 2: Visite de la région de Arashiyama et Sagano:
Le temple de Tenryu-ji.
La bambouseraie.
L’Okochi-Sanso.
Puis, je pensais aller découvrir la partie nord-ouest de Kyoto pour découvrir :
Le temple de Ninna-Ji :
Le temple Ryoanji :
Le temple de Kinkakuji – Le pavillon d’or.
Le temple Daitokuji.
Savez-vous s'il y a un bus entre Arashiyama et le temple de Ninna-ji.
Jour 3: Visite de Nara: - journée du Dimanche
Je ne détaille pas car les lieux de visite sont connus et assez concentrés.
Juste une petite questions: sur une journée au départ de Kyoto, est-il interessant de visiter le temple de shin-yakushiji et ses 12 généreux divins.
Jour 4: Visite du centre-ville:
Là, j'ai quelques difficultés. Tout d'abord, nous avons réservé la visite du palais impérial à 10h00 sur Internet.
Ensuite, après ces quelques jours à visiter des temples, on se disait pourqu'oi par visite le marché de Nishiki, puis le chateau de Nijo-jo.
Enfin l’après-midi, on se propose d'aller visiter le sanctuaire du Fushimi Inari-taisha.
Jour 5: Départ pour Osaka:
Je me posais si ces journées sont bien équilibrées. Nous logerons près de la gare de Kyoto.
Jour 1: Visite de Higashiyama:
- Le temple bouddhiste de Kiyomizu-dera. A proximité, le Jishu-jinga qui abrite les célèbres « pierres d’amour ». Avant d’entrer dans l’enceinte actuelle, chercher le Tainai-Meguri, dont l’entrée est juste à gauche.
- A proximité, le nene no michi avec ses ruelles traditionnelles et ses multiples échoppes.
- Le temple Kodai-ji (éclairé le soir) avec son étang, sa foret de bambous, son joli pont et 4 maisons de thé dont 3 anciennes.
- Le Yasaka-jinja, à deux pas, et accolé au fameux Maruyama-Koen – parc avec étang, boutiques desouvenirs et restaurants.
- Le Chion-in immense temple le plus grand centre bouddhisme du Japon.
- Le Shoren-in, un petit temple avec un magnifique jardin.
En poursuivant sa route (nord du quartier de Higashiyama), visite du Heian-jingu; temple avec une vaste cour ornée de beaux bâtiments flambloyants de rouge et de vert, ses 5 magnifiques jardins ainsi que son magnifique étang et le beau pont couvert Taihei-haku menant au batiment principal, le shobi kan, sur le bord de l’étang.
- Le Nanzen-ji.
- Le Tetsugaku-no-Michi - chemin de la philosophie qui commence au nord de l’Eikan-do et s’achève auGinkaju-ji.
- Et enfin pour terminer, le Ginkaku-ji.
Après cette journée qui me semble longue sur le papier, je me dis pourquoi ne pas aller déambuler dans Gion aux bords de la Shirakawa et dans Pontocho.
Cette journée est-elle réalisable? Elle me semble bien longue. Faut-il faire certaines parties du parcours en bus pour limiter la marche à pieds.
ben la clairement non.
faut compter plutôt 3 jours pour faire tout ca.
Ouais...
On se demande aussi quel est l'intérêt de faire autant de temples.
Au moins 10 le premier jour, 5 seulement le second, mais avec le daitoku-ji, ensemble qui comprend une vingtaine de temples.
Les temples, ce doit être une véritable passion... ou alors, c'est pour le Guinness Book...
Je suis bien conscient du nombre de temples. C'est pourquoi j'indique modifier ou supprimer. Mais que faut-il supprimer pour ne pas passer à côté des points d'intérêts principaux?
Ouais...
On se demande aussi quel est l'intérêt de faire autant de temples.
Au moins 10 le premier jour, 5 seulement le second, mais avec le daitoku-ji, ensemble qui comprend une vingtaine de temples.
Les temples, ce doit être une véritable passion... ou alors, c'est pour le Guinness Book...
Sans compter des excursions a la demi-journee/journee vers :
- Ohara
- Enryokuji/Sakamoto
- Uji
- Nara
Regarde sur cette page : http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2158.html
Ensuite situe-les temples qui te paraissent les plus interessants et etablis un plan de route.
Sache que 3 ou 4 temples par jour, c'est deja bien suffisant (en supposant qu'ils sont dans la meme zone).
Merci. Je pense que le forum Japon est l'endroit le plus approprié pour s'enflammer. Je dirais plutôt: rester ZEN.
Pour la première journee, il faut épurer. Mais peut-on faire le temple Kiyomizu-dera et Le chemin de la philosophie dans la meme journee?
Qu'en est-il des autres journee et notamment le dernier jour?
Merci. Je pense que le forum Japon est l'endroit le plus approprié pour s'enflammer. Je dirais plutôt: rester ZEN.
Pour la première journee, il faut épurer. Mais peut-on faire le temple Kiyomizu-dera et Le chemin de la philosophie dans la meme journee?
Qu'en est-il des autres journee et notamment le dernier jour?
si tu parles de cette journée la :
Jour 4: Visite du centre-ville:
Là, j'ai quelques difficultés. Tout d'abord, nous avons réservé la visite du palais impérial à 10h00 sur Internet.
Ensuite, après ces quelques jours à visiter des temples, on se disait pourqu'oi par visite le marché de Nishiki, puis le chateau de Nijo-jo.
Enfin l’après-midi, on se propose d'aller visiter le sanctuaire du Fushimi Inari-taisha
Nous avons passé trois bonnes semaines au Japon il y a maintenant 3 ans (sniff........), nous avions commence par Tokyo puis Kyoto. Pour Kyoto nous avons fait la visite de quelques temples en 1 journée en vélo et c'était franchement très agréable ! Nous avons séjourné 6 jours à Kyoto et n'avons pas tout visité (mais on est plutot lents dans notre genre). Pour Tokyo idem nous avons du passer 6 ou 7 jours en tout dans la ville et pas tout vu non plus......Aux abords de KYOTO il ne faut pas manquer NARA pour ses daims sacrés et apprivoisés mais surtout c'est un des plus beaux temples (20 Km en train), pas très loin de Kyoto il y a également un superbe temple Shinto avec sa multitude de Toris (en train également)
Dans quelques heures, nous embarquons pour le Japon. Bien évidement nous ne pourrons pas tout visiter en quelquesjours, on verra sur place. Nous avons prévu de passer une journée a Nara.
Nous avons hâté!!! Bonne nuit.
Je suis bien conscient du nombre de temples. C'est pourquoi j'indique modifier ou supprimer. Mais que faut-il supprimer pour ne pas passer à côté des points d'intérêts principaux?
Attention à ne pas axer son voyage au Japon uniquement autour des temples, à moins qu'on en soit fan bien sûr.
Le Japon est un pays de temples comme la France est un pays d'églises... Organise-t-on pour autant un séjour en France en fonction de ses églises ? Oui uniquement si l'on est passionné par le sujet à mon avis...
Quant à savoir si l'on doit commencer un séjour au Japon par Tokyo ou Kyoto, il n'y a pas de règle. Perso, je commence et termine toujours mes voyages au Japon par Tokyo 😉.
Bonjour...
Nous, dans quelques heures on s'envolera pour... la France.
Si tu vas à Nara dans moins d'une semaine, fonces vite au mont Yoshino... la floraison des cerisiers n'est en plein que dans la partie 2 (sur 4...).
J'y étais aujourd'hui...
Un des plus beaux souvenirs de ce séjour...
Bon voyage à toi!
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Je répondrai la même chose que JC07 : pourquoi tant ?
Si vous n'êtes pas fan invétéré des temples et sanctuaires, vous allez très rapidement faire une overdose.
A mon sens, il serait plus judicieux de se fixer des zones par jour; et d'improviser au sein de chaque zone en fonction de vos envies du moment. Et inutile de vouloir tout voir à Kyoto en 3 jours, c'est impossible.
A partir de votre planning prévu pour le moment, vous pouvez faire :
- Une journée Higashiyama Sud ou Higashiyama Nord
- Une journée Nord-Est + Arashiyama
- Une journée Centre
Savez-vous s'il y a un bus entre Arashiyama et le temple de Ninna-ji.
Il y a un tram très sympathique (avec un changement) de Arashiyama vers le Ninna-ji et Ryoan-ji
Pour vous donner une idée, j'ai fait en une journée Kinkaju - Ryoanji - Arashiyama - Bambouseraie - Okochisanto. En partant de moins loin que vous question logement. (gare de Kyoto). Et c'était déjà bien suffisant pour ne pas trop courir et profiter un minimum des lieux.
Je vais essayer de reprendre mon carnet de voyage "Voyage de Ishigaki à Tokyo" qui s'est pour le moment arrêté au début de Kyoto. Ca pourra sûrement vous aider un peu 😉
Pour aller à Yoshinoyama depuis Nara, le plus simple est de prendre la ligne Kintetsu.
Il y aura des changements:
Le premier à Yamatosaidaiji
Le deuxième à Kashiharajungumae.
Si tu as un JR pass, il est également possible d'en faire une partie par une ligne JR avec trois changements.
Oji
Takada
Yoshinoguchi.
Les deux trajets prennent environ 90 minutes à deux heures.
Arrivé à destination, je conseille de prendre le bus pour le niveau intermédiaire... puis un minibus qui amène en haut du site. Il n'y a que quelques centaines de mètres de montée pour atteindre le temple supérieur.
Ensuite, la descente prend deux ou trois heures... en fonction du nombre de photos.
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Ce n'est pas envisageable de faire cette visite avec celle de Nara.
Yoshino est une destination de hanami... et pour pouvoir bien regarder, il faut prendre son temps.
Cela n'a pas de sens de passer rapidement sous les cerisiers.
De plus, je conseille d'y arriver très tôt.
Partis à 7h00 de Osaka (un des premiers trains), on est rentrés à 15h30... et on ne s'est pas arrêtés pour déjeuner. On a fait une bonne partie de la descente sans rencontrer grand monde, mais à notre départ de Yoshino, la foule était compacte dans les rues du village.
Mes 25 ans de séjours au japon! http://www.soleilrouge.org/
Okinawa et Miyakojima: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6477376;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
Sakura: Balade de printemps: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=6988760;idl3=9084144203&idl=3731943&idl2=8709057
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Bonjour à tous
Pour simplifier la logistique, j'envisage de louer une voiture pour passer 5/6 jours dans les alpes japonaises avant d'aller à Kyoto en solo.
La conduite est-elle compliquée voire risquée dans cette région.?
Merci pour vos retours
Tara
We’re arriving as a group of three in Tokyo on Saturday, October 17th, then heading straight to Kyoto by direct train.
On Sunday and Monday, we’ll explore Kyoto, and in the evening, we’ll take a train to Osaka to spend the night.
On Tuesday, we’ll pick up a rental car at Itami Airport for a 6-day/5-night road trip around Shikoku:
- 2 nights in the Iya Valley
- Thursday morning, we’ll head to Matsuyama for 2 nights.
- Saturday, we’ll visit Mima (town, a few temples + overnight stay) and return on Sunday to drop off the car in Osaka.
We’ll leave very early on Monday the 26th by plane for Aomori in northern Honshu, where we’ll pick up another rental car at the airport for a 5-day/4-night trip:
- Day 1: Tsugaru Peninsula (Takayam Inari, Cape Tappi, Kanita); overnight in Kanita
- Day 2: Ferry transfer to the Mutsu Peninsula (cliffs, Lake Usori); overnight in Shimofuro
- Day 3: Head to the Hakkoda Mountains and onsens galore; overnight TBD
- Day 4: Return the car in Aomori by noon and explore the city before taking the train to Tokyo in the evening
We’ll spend Friday night in Tokyo, wander around on Saturday, and head home on Sunday.
Thoughts on the road feasibility of this trip? We’ll be there right in the middle of Koyo season, so it’ll be busy...
I know it’s a lot of driving, but there are two of us who can take turns. We’re not afraid of driving, even in the mountains and on the left side! Just wondering, are we going to be rushing, or is this manageable? AI says it’s all good, but it’s not the one driving...
Any tips for booking accommodations in the Iya Valley? Not many places have email addresses or websites (I know Booking.com exists, but not all listings are on there... and given the season, I think it’s better to book ahead!). Same question applies for northern Honshu.
For the rental car, I’m thinking of going with Alamo since at least it’s in French and straightforward, but are there any direct rental companies with user-friendly websites (Toyota Rentacar, ugh... 🏴☠️)?
Another question: With so many trains, is it even necessary to book them in advance? Can we just go to the ticket counter and grab seats on the spot?
For paying for the rental car, do we need a credit or debit card?
I saw there are several "authentic" villages about 90/100 km from Beijing.
Including: Lingshui, Liuliqu, Sangyu, Miaoying, and Cuandixia.
Has anyone visited any of them? I was thinking of choosing Cuandixia—what do you think?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone!
It seems there’s a flea market in Tianjin that’s way more interesting than the one in Beijing. I’ve been searching online but can’t find the right one… The one I’m looking for is called gu wan shi chang (my PC won’t display the Chinese characters…). Does anyone have the address and has anyone been there before? The one in Beijing has lost a lot of its charm over the past 10 years, so I wanted to find another. Thanks!
Hi,
My departure is coming up soon—two months backpacking in Taiwan, so much to discover! I’d love to hear about your travel experiences.
My main interests are meeting people, understanding how things work, hiking, and nature in general. I’ve also done a lot of reading about Taiwan’s complex situation.
I do stone sculpture.
I also want to visit Orchid Island for its history.
Marie
I’m looking for advice from seasoned travelers about a roughly one-month trip to Japan.
From late October to late November 2026.
We often travel in Southeast Asia but have never been to Japan.
Based on what I’ve read, I’d love to hear your thoughts on:
- Is traveling day-to-day, without booking hotels or trains in advance, possible in Japan?
(I’ve read many travel journals and blogs that say everything was booked way in advance… but that’s not how we usually travel.)
- Will the Japan Rail Pass be worth it for us?
(According to an old simulator, I’m looking at around 400 € for trains compared to 570 € for the JRP.)
Here’s our rough itinerary (which may change):
- Arrival Osaka: 3 nights with Nara
- Hiroshima and Miyajima Island: 3 nights
- Kurashiki or Naoshima: 2 nights
- Himeji: 1 night
- Kyoto: 4 nights
- Kanazawa: 2 nights
- Takayama and Shirakawa-go: 3 nights
- Around Mount Fuji: 3 nights
- Tokyo with Nikko: 6 nights (no theme parks)
Departure from Tokyo
Here are some tips from our 6-week trip (summer 2026) to China, Vietnam, and Cambodia. We traveled as a family of four with two kids aged 15 and 12.
I hope these notes help other travelers!
CHINA
General
You’ll need to download and set up a few apps:
- Alipay and WeChat for payments (I didn’t withdraw a single bill the entire trip)
- Didi for taxis
- Amap = Chinese Maps (works great, especially for subways)
- A translation app (we used Papago, but it sometimes gave weird results)
- Google Lens for translating menus or signs—super handy.
- HelloRide for bikes
- Gemini and ChatGPT for everything: understanding daily life, enhancing visits, checking the weather, finding things.
- HomeExchange if you want to lower travel costs (few listings in Asia except in big cities, often expats)
- Trip.com is very useful, even essential, for trains, domestic flights, and hotels. Like Booking.com, the more you book with them, the more perks you get. So I’d even suggest checking flight tickets on this site, even if it’s a bit pricier. However, buying train tickets is complicated because (1) they only open 15 days in advance, and (2) they sell out fast. Trip.com just promises to buy them as soon as they’re available but doesn’t always succeed. It’s stressful and might force you to change your plans, especially if you’re aiming for a sleeper car and there are no seats left. Watch out for station names—many cities have multiple stations, including a high-speed rail one outside the city.
For internet, we got the Asia plan from Holafly. It worked but seemed much slower than Chinese internet. I regretted not buying a Chinese SIM card because without internet in China, everything is VERY complicated (money, transport, etc.).
For the firewall, we used ExpressVPN, but it wasn’t always reliable. A bit disappointing. Ask ChatGPT for tips with screenshots to improve the settings.
Since we only had one SIM card with internet, we couldn’t rent shared bikes. If I were to do it again, I’d get a SIM for each person, even the kids, because distances in cities are huge. We walked *a lot*. Same goes for buses—it’s tricky with just one internet connection. Better to have a phone per person with internet.
Book your visits as far in advance as possible—they often sell out.
Watch out for power banks: if they don’t explicitly say "3C," they’ll confiscate it. Even if there’s a little airplane logo.
Shanghai
In the evening, the streets leading to the Bund from the metro were so crowded that police were out in force blocking roads. Arrive early. We went around the north side.
Suzhou
Be careful—there are two stations (common in China), and the high-speed rail one is 45–50 minutes from the old town.
The Humble Administrator’s Garden was *packed*—we don’t recommend it. It turned into a marathon day from Shanghai (almost 4 hours from our hotel to the garden).
Beijing
Forbidden City: Don’t go—I know it’s a shame, but it’s too crowded. I couldn’t buy tickets on the official site because of the kids’ passports. We ended up with a guided tour, the only way to get in (tickets sell out fast). The visit was disappointing—bad guide *and* massive crowds. You’ll queue a lot to enter and see certain areas. You’ll be checked often, so pack your bags carefully.
Great Wall at Mutianyu: Crowded. Two hours by bus, and even though we arrived early, people were already leaving! I really think the best option is to leave your big bags in Beijing and stay overnight near the Wall. That way, you’ll have it to yourself a bit more. For transport: get off at Tiananmen Square metro and look for buses with official guides in bright yellow-green vests. No need to buy tickets online—they made me cancel mine to rebook on the spot. Buses leave when full. Note: the cable car and chairlift are separate—if you want to go up one side and down the other, you’ll need different tickets. The endless queue for the toboggan ride put us off.
Quick tip: Incredible swimming spot in Beijing—on the north shore of Houhai Lake, you can swim by crossing the barrier. We did it twice with about ten other people. Bring a swimsuit!
Shapotou Desert
Amazing, but it gets *very* hot in the afternoon. We had a tent (not an air-conditioned bungalow), which was unbearable during the day. We hung out in the restaurant.
The paid activities are fun, except the camels—they look sad. The real highlight is the evening and sunset. The only downside: you can’t explore the desert alone or far—they don’t rent 4x4s, for example.
We stayed at "The Desert Camping Hotel of the Proprietress of Shapotou." They were lovely.
Zhongwei
Gaomiao Temple and its underground: Fun and short—you’ll see quirky Buddhist hell paintings.
Xi’an
Terracotta Army: We took a Didi because for four people, a car was almost the same price as four shuttle tickets. It was packed—chaotic to see properly.
We visited the halls in order: 3, 2, then 1—a good choice.
Hua Shan Mountains: Left before sunrise to arrive when the ticket office opened (7 AM, I think). We were shocked to see so many people already coming down.
45 minutes by bus to the west cable car, then 15 minutes up.
We did the west, south, east, central, then north peaks (in that order) before taking the other cable car down (you can buy the ticket at the top). A beautiful day.
In the city, check out...
Chengdu
Panda Research Center: Like Hua Shan, plan to arrive when the ticket office opens. Already *tons* of people, and it moves fast to see the big pandas before their nap. Have them drop you at the west entrance (not south), or you’ll have to walk uphill.
Leshan Giant Buddha: Interesting. The trip is a bit long (metro, then train, then city bus, then shuttle on-site). We didn’t take the boat option but walked. In the end, you only spend a few minutes at the Buddha’s feet, but it’s a nice day out.
Hotel tip: Panda Enjoy Home Hotel Apartments (Chengdu East Railway Station Dongda Road Branch). The view is insane, and the neighborhood is super convenient and nice. 646 CNY for 2 nights.
Swimming: The municipal pool is an interesting experience, but don’t expect to swim—no one does. Everyone just splashes around where they can stand. The hours are a bit odd, with a break in the late afternoon.
Kunming
The bike path along Dian Lake is pretty and often well-protected from cars. But like everywhere in China, it’s *packed*. Not much to say about visits—the flower market is a wholesale market, not very interesting. The ethnic minorities museum closed right in front of us.
All the big malls are good for shopping.
Dali
We thought we could bike around the lake in two days. Wrong on two counts: First, the lake’s edge is blocked to traffic and reserved for bikes (or tourist mini-buses). So you’re stuck on the main road, which never gives you a view of the lake, with all the trucks and cars. Doing 120 km like that wouldn’t make sense, in our opinion. The rice fields around are nice but not as impressive as elsewhere, so Dali isn’t worth it for that.
The old town, all restored, is pretty but *packed*—thousands of people, especially in the evening.
Hekou (Vietnam border)
Comfortable train from Kunming. In the parking lot, a bus (not well-marked, but Didi is an option) takes you to the border in 15–20 minutes. Short wait at both border posts. Fun to see the two lampposts near the border line: the Chinese one is new, modern, with a surveillance camera (of course), while the Vietnamese one is old and a bit rusty.
VIETNAM
General:
- You’ll need the Grab app for taxis
- Very disappointed with 12Go—it doesn’t show all buses, never connects you with the company, and refuses refunds. Try booking directly with companies like FUTA Bus instead.
- Credit cards are often accepted (supermarkets and modern stores), otherwise, you’ll need cash
Lao Cai
2 km between the border and the train station.
The sleeper bus to Hanoi with Sao Viet is well-organized—it works.
Hanoi
Ho Chi Minh Mausoleum closes early (10:30 AM, I think).
Women’s Museum: Very good, not too long
Temple of Literature: Beautiful, fairly quick
This is where you should buy souvenirs, clothes, and knockoffs—the prices are reasonable, and the sellers are nicer than elsewhere. We recommend Cho Dong Xuan.
Tu Long Bay
We did 2 days, 1 night (so really 24 hours on the boat) with Parfum d’Automne (French-speaking agency), which put us on a Cycad Cruise boat. Cost: 300 € per person—expensive, but it was amazing, super luxurious, and the buffet meals were delicious. We don’t regret the splurge. The only downside: no swimming in the bay (but there’s a pool on the boat). To swim, you’d need a 3-day, 2-night trip to an area not protected by the maritime park.
Phong Nha
If you didn’t do the northern mountains due to time or weather (like us), Phong Nha is a great stop for a motorbike ride. It’s beautiful, especially the mountains west of the city toward the caves.
There are two (small) swimming spots at the Botanic Garden—a pleasant 45-minute walk without stops.
Hotel tip: Sunbeam Village (very friendly, pool, breakfast by the river, motorbike rentals)
Da Nang
Hotel tip: Meridians by Hsuite—you’ll have the beach almost to yourself. You’ll still need to walk 15–20 minutes to the hyper-touristy area if you want to rent surfboards (150–200k VND per hour).
The beach is beautiful, and the water is 30°C—great for a break on a long trip, especially since all transport goes through Da Nang.
Hoi An
45 minutes from Da Nang, so it’s easy to visit in a day, especially since the city isn’t that big and it’s *very* hot.
Cooking class: MS Hanh cooking class—great (the market tour is a bit useless). We don’t recommend the "basket boat" tour—it’s a bit sad on a big brown pond with elderly guides.
Ho Chi Minh City
Ben Thanh Market is a nightmare: starting prices are exorbitant, and the vendors are aggressive. Don’t go.
The War Remnants Museum can be really tough for kids.
Can Tho
Avoid this city. We made the mistake of going to see the floating market—don’t.
Chau Doc
No Grab in the city, but regular taxis.
One day is enough if you go early to the forest and the mountain in the late afternoon.
250k VND per person for the forest and its canals (45 minutes by motorbike)
The sunset at Victoria Nui Sam can be magnificent if the clouds cooperate.
Cheap and good restaurant: Quan Nem Nuong Sau Hiep
Hotel tip: Homestay Khoa (2,250,000 VND for 3 nights)—adorable hostess, full of tips, clean rooms.
The speedboat to Cambodia is more comfortable than a bus. Book with Hangchau a few days in advance—payment in cash on the day (1,640,000 đ).
CAMBODIA
General:
- Issues with the "Bakong Tourists" app—we had to go to a big bank to load money onto it. We barely used it afterward.
Phnom Penh
For us, a day and a half is enough if you want to spend more time elsewhere.
Markets close early (around 6 PM) and are less interesting than in Hanoi, for example.
The Royal Palace has a break from 11 AM to 2 PM, but there aren’t many people in the afternoon.
Siem Reap
Trip with Capitol company—the bus is basic but cheap. Departs at 10:15 AM, 7-hour ride.
Angkor entrance fee: 62 USD per person for a 3-day pass. Tickets are picked up at Angkor Enterprise.
Renting two 125cc motorbikes: 10 USD each, plus 7 USD for gas.
By bike, it took me 25 minutes to reach Angkor Wat’s pools. A basic city bike rental was 1 USD per hour.
Short circuit by motorbike (in reverse): 7 hours with stops everywhere.
Grand tour by tuk-tuk: Only 5 temples, 4.5 hours.
If you want to see lots of monkeys, they’re grouped west of Bayon.
For the temples, we asked Gemini (AI) at each stop to point out details that might interest kids (who can get bored with the repetition). It gave fun facts and things to look for—great for the little ones.
Hotel tip: The Five Senses, run by a Frenchman, Bruno, who knows Cambodia inside out and organizes tours.
Restaurant tip: Wild (only spring rolls, but *so* many varieties—delicious and cheap)
Watch out: 1 hour to the airport, 50 km from the city.
Show tip: The Phare Circus
I booked my trip from May 5 to 26, 2027. I’m starting to plan my itinerary and look for hotels (I know it’s early!). While I’ve found some in Seoul and Busan, I’m noticing that elsewhere—like Yeosu—most hotels aren’t available (on Booking.com, for example, almost all are unavailable). AI tells me not to worry because hotels in South Korea only open bookings 6 months in advance, so it’s normal to see most of them unavailable on booking sites.
Could you confirm this for me and, of course, reassure me (!)? Thanks so much.
philippe
We’re back from a one-month trip to China and wanted to share our itinerary. Hopefully, this can give future travelers some ideas for exploring this beautiful country.
Beijing → Temple of Heaven / Forbidden City
Jinshanling → Great Wall
Zhangjiajie → Tianmen Mountain and Heaven’s Gate
Wulingyuan → Avatar Mountains / sandstone pillars
Fenghuang → riverside houses
Ping’an → terraced rice fields
Tiantouzhai → village / rice terraces
Yangshuo → Li River / karst mountains
Shanghai → skyline with the Oriental Pearl Tower
Our travel journal is available on our travel journal, written day by day. You’ll find lots of photos and some travel tips there.
I’m starting to look at neighborhoods in Seoul, and I’m leaning toward staying in a hotel in Insa-Dong—I’ve spotted one really close to Unhyeongung.
Is this a good area—nice and convenient for exploring the city?
Otherwise, I’ve also found another hotel in Yongsan-Gu, right near the station of the same name. Is that station useful for getting around Seoul?
Since I’ll be in South Korea for nearly two months, I plan to spend at least a week in Seoul to recover from jet lag (it takes me a while to adjust...). So, I’d love a neighborhood that’s pleasant and a hotel not too far from a subway station.
Hi there,
I’d like to do this cycling route over 2 or 3 days. I’m struggling to figure out and find a (good) bike rental that lets me start in Onomichi and drop off in Imabari. Can anyone help with great tips for rentals and accommodations along the route? How do I get back to Onomichi afterward?
Next year, we’re celebrating 20 years of marriage (and travel 🙂), and we’re looking for something new, pretty legendary, and something the teens will enjoy too.
The family council has settled on Japan for now. And it’d have to be a summer trip—no choice there.
The catch: I keep reading that August isn’t the right season for southern Japan. It’s hot, humid, and there’s a risk of typhoons… Okay, but what does that *actually* mean in practice? Are there any travelers who’ve been there during this time? Is it *that* unbearable?
We’re pretty familiar with Southeast Asia—last year, we dealt with scorching heat in Vietnam and insane humidity, plus a typhoon we experienced from a distance, and visiting Angkor in the blazing sun. Is it worse than that?
I’m back with my detailed itinerary for 20 days in South Korea—it’s my first trip to the country. Our idea is to experience a more rural and cultural Korea. Here’s the rough plan: Seoul for 4 nights at the start and 1 night at the end, Gurye for 4 nights, Suncheon for 4 nights, Namhae for 4 nights, and Gyeongju for 2 nights. The goal is to pick a base and explore the surrounding areas. What do you think of this itinerary? Anything you’d change?
thanks
hi everyone, we're heading out for a 12-day trek in the Japanese Alps. We're bringing freeze-dried meals like we always do. We just found out that importing meat is banned, even freeze-dried. Is that true? We already bought them. They're commercially made freeze-dried meals. Online, it's not specified that they have to be "commercially made" because you can make your own freeze-dried food. And since we've heard they're really strict in Japan, can anyone confirm this for us? thanks
I haven’t found what I’m looking for despite my searches!
For a 15-day trip next spring, I’d like to buy a card (preferably an eSIM, but a physical SIM is fine too) that also lets me make calls in the country (to contact a hotel, a tourist spot, etc.).
You can easily find options just for data, but I haven’t come across any that include calls, texts, or even MMS.
Could you recommend something?
hi there
I’m planning a trip in September—here’s my rough itinerary. What do you think? Is it easy to rent a car to get around between my stops? Thanks so much!
Philippe
StopNightsFull daysSeoul44Gurye (Jirisan)43Suncheon43Namhae43Gyeongju21Seoul1—
Hi,
July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there...
But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it.
2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them.
3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days
Gyeongju: 2 days
Busan: 3 days
Jeju: 4 days
Seoul: 2 days
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo
1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked)
4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked)
2 nights in Osaka
4 nights back in Tokyo
I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno.
I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better.
Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited.
I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest?
Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?