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Jusqu'où peut-on aller sans visa en Europe?
by Badock
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour,
Ca a surement deja ete pose comme question, mais vu que ca peut changer, je redemande...
Je voulais savoir si vous connaitriez une carte ou une liste repertoriant tous les pays dans lesquels un ressortissant de l'UE peut se rendre sans visa. Ca me permettrai de voir plus clair pour de futurs voyages car j'aime pas claquer des thune juste pour rentrer dans un pays comme c'est le cas maintenant (je suis en Russie)
Merci de votre aide
Merci de votre aide
le site du ministere des affaires etrangeres precises s'il faut un visa ou non pour tout les pays du monde (il y a une liste déroulante faut juste choisir)
sur le site d'expedia, dans la rubrique "guide", tu peux aussi voir s'il faut un visa pour la plupart des pays du monde.
desolé j'ai pas la liste precise.
sur le site d'expedia, dans la rubrique "guide", tu peux aussi voir s'il faut un visa pour la plupart des pays du monde.
desolé j'ai pas la liste precise.
le site du ministere des affaires etrangeres precises s'il faut un visa ou non pour tout les pays du monde (il y a une liste déroulante faut juste choisir)
sur le site d'expedia, dans la rubrique "guide", tu peux aussi voir s'il faut un visa pour la plupart des pays du monde.
desolé j'ai pas la liste precise.
Bonsoir,
Ben la prochaine fois, mets directement l'adresse du site, car cela évite d'avoir un message vide.
L'adresse où vous pouvez vous renseigner sur n'importe quelle pièce d'identité vers n'importe quel pays du monde, en partant de la France, est : http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs_909/index.html Il suffit d'indiquer en haut à droite le nom du pays dans lequel vous vous rendez.
Par contre, les personnes qui désirent venir visiter la France peuvent se renseigner à l'adresse suivante : http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/france_829/venir-france_4062/entrer-france_4063/index.html
Attention au site "expédia" : il n'est pas actualisé tout le temps. Donc je préfère le site du Ministère des affaires étrangères, même si je sais qu'ici, il y en a qui ne croit pas ce qui est indiqué dessus.....
Bonne semaine à tous
Cordialement
sur le site d'expedia, dans la rubrique "guide", tu peux aussi voir s'il faut un visa pour la plupart des pays du monde.
desolé j'ai pas la liste precise.
Bonsoir,
Ben la prochaine fois, mets directement l'adresse du site, car cela évite d'avoir un message vide.
L'adresse où vous pouvez vous renseigner sur n'importe quelle pièce d'identité vers n'importe quel pays du monde, en partant de la France, est : http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/conseils-aux-voyageurs_909/index.html Il suffit d'indiquer en haut à droite le nom du pays dans lequel vous vous rendez.
Par contre, les personnes qui désirent venir visiter la France peuvent se renseigner à l'adresse suivante : http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/fr/france_829/venir-france_4062/entrer-france_4063/index.html
Attention au site "expédia" : il n'est pas actualisé tout le temps. Donc je préfère le site du Ministère des affaires étrangères, même si je sais qu'ici, il y en a qui ne croit pas ce qui est indiqué dessus.....
Bonne semaine à tous
Cordialement
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Bonjour...
"Donc je préfère le site du Ministère des affaires étrangères, même si je sais qu'ici, il y en a qui ne croit pas ce qui est indiqué dessus..... "
Pour ce qui est des renseignements administratifs, il sont corrects, même s'ils sont ouvent incomplets par omission, sur l'Iran par exemple, pour être précis. Pour les autres choses ils tendent à n'être que des ouvreurs de parapluie qui protègent leurs intérêts d'abord.
Michel
"Donc je préfère le site du Ministère des affaires étrangères, même si je sais qu'ici, il y en a qui ne croit pas ce qui est indiqué dessus..... "
Pour ce qui est des renseignements administratifs, il sont corrects, même s'ils sont ouvent incomplets par omission, sur l'Iran par exemple, pour être précis. Pour les autres choses ils tendent à n'être que des ouvreurs de parapluie qui protègent leurs intérêts d'abord.
Michel
Bonjour...
"Donc je préfère le site du Ministère des affaires étrangères, même si je sais qu'ici, il y en a qui ne croit pas ce qui est indiqué dessus..... "
Pour ce qui est des renseignements administratifs, il sont corrects, même s'ils sont ouvent incomplets par omission, sur l'Iran par exemple, pour être précis. Pour les autres choses ils tendent à n'être que des ouvreurs de parapluie qui protègent leurs intérêts d'abord.
Michel
Bonjour,
C'est ton jugement. Je pars du principe que si l'on veut des renseignements sur l'étranger, il y a 3 façons de les obtenir quand on est en France : le Ministère des affaires étrangères l'Ambassade ou le consulat du pays où tu veux te rendre l'agence de voyages qui te vend le billet ou le séjour. et en dernière solution, les forums comme celui-là. Mais s'il arrive un problème, tu ne pourras pas te retourner contre la personne qui t'aura renseigné ici. Et comme les formalités administratives changent assez souvent pour certains pays, faudrait que tu tombes sur une personne qui revient de ce voyage et non pas une personne qui est allée dans ledit pays il y a quelques mois.
Après, on laisse libre les personnes de faire comme elles veulent, mais je pars du principe que si des personnes viennent ici se renseigner, c'est pour avoir de l'information récente et non ancienne.
Bonne semaine
Cordialement
"Donc je préfère le site du Ministère des affaires étrangères, même si je sais qu'ici, il y en a qui ne croit pas ce qui est indiqué dessus..... "
Pour ce qui est des renseignements administratifs, il sont corrects, même s'ils sont ouvent incomplets par omission, sur l'Iran par exemple, pour être précis. Pour les autres choses ils tendent à n'être que des ouvreurs de parapluie qui protègent leurs intérêts d'abord.
Michel
Bonjour,
C'est ton jugement. Je pars du principe que si l'on veut des renseignements sur l'étranger, il y a 3 façons de les obtenir quand on est en France : le Ministère des affaires étrangères l'Ambassade ou le consulat du pays où tu veux te rendre l'agence de voyages qui te vend le billet ou le séjour. et en dernière solution, les forums comme celui-là. Mais s'il arrive un problème, tu ne pourras pas te retourner contre la personne qui t'aura renseigné ici. Et comme les formalités administratives changent assez souvent pour certains pays, faudrait que tu tombes sur une personne qui revient de ce voyage et non pas une personne qui est allée dans ledit pays il y a quelques mois.
Après, on laisse libre les personnes de faire comme elles veulent, mais je pars du principe que si des personnes viennent ici se renseigner, c'est pour avoir de l'information récente et non ancienne.
Bonne semaine
Cordialement
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c est simple...dans tous les pays de CEE ayant ratifie le traite de SENGHEN..donc si tu es membre de la CEE pas de probleme...va sur coogle pour obtenir la liste de ces pays...bon voyage
nvl
Bonjour,
"C'est ton jugement. Je pars du principe que si l'on veut des renseignements sur l'étranger, il y a 3 façons de les obtenir quand on est en France : le Ministère des affaires étrangères l'Ambassade ou le consulat du pays où tu veux te rendre l'agence de voyages qui te vend le billet ou le séjour."
C'est toujours très amusant pour moi de voir suggéré de demander des informations à une agence de voyage 😏... Voilà vraiment un bon moyen de partir avec de fausses informations...
"Mais s'il arrive un problème, tu ne pourras pas te retourner contre la personne qui t'aura renseigné ici. "
Je ne pense pas que ce soit le but.... Tu vas te retourner contre l'agence qui t'aura oralement mal informé ?... J'aimerais bien voir ça !... Une personne intelligence va vérifier toute information obtenue, même celle des canaux officiels.
"Et comme les formalités administratives changent assez souvent pour certains pays, faudrait que tu tombes sur une personne qui revient de ce voyage et non pas une personne qui est allée dans ledit pays il y a quelques mois. "
En ce qui me concerne, je ne donne que des informations dont je me sens sûr, c'est à dire basées non seulement sur des expériences personnelles mais sur une mise à jour permanent de mes références sur le net et sur les forums, celui-ci et d'autres.
Michel
"C'est ton jugement. Je pars du principe que si l'on veut des renseignements sur l'étranger, il y a 3 façons de les obtenir quand on est en France : le Ministère des affaires étrangères l'Ambassade ou le consulat du pays où tu veux te rendre l'agence de voyages qui te vend le billet ou le séjour."
C'est toujours très amusant pour moi de voir suggéré de demander des informations à une agence de voyage 😏... Voilà vraiment un bon moyen de partir avec de fausses informations...
"Mais s'il arrive un problème, tu ne pourras pas te retourner contre la personne qui t'aura renseigné ici. "
Je ne pense pas que ce soit le but.... Tu vas te retourner contre l'agence qui t'aura oralement mal informé ?... J'aimerais bien voir ça !... Une personne intelligence va vérifier toute information obtenue, même celle des canaux officiels.
"Et comme les formalités administratives changent assez souvent pour certains pays, faudrait que tu tombes sur une personne qui revient de ce voyage et non pas une personne qui est allée dans ledit pays il y a quelques mois. "
En ce qui me concerne, je ne donne que des informations dont je me sens sûr, c'est à dire basées non seulement sur des expériences personnelles mais sur une mise à jour permanent de mes références sur le net et sur les forums, celui-ci et d'autres.
Michel
Salut, apparemment personne ne repond jamais aux questions posées😉, detourner un sujet est tradition ici.
Bon ce qu a dit Tatra a propos des renseignements aux agences de voyages etc ets vrai...tout le monde te donne des infos qui jouent en leur faveur...et les agences sont svt au courant de rien, on a encore voulu me faire payer un visa thailandais pour 3 jours de transit a bangkok, imagine...
Concernant l europe, si tu es membre de Shengen, les seuls pays qui demandent un visa sont la russie et la bielorussie. meme la georgie, ukraine moldavie t as 3 mois gratuits.
Par contre certains pays demandnet un passeport, cNI insuffisante!
En réponse à Tatra :
C'est toujours très amusant pour moi de voir suggéré de demander des informations à une agence de voyage 😏... Voilà vraiment un bon moyen de partir avec de fausses informations... Je suis parti une fois en voyage en consultant le site d'Expédia, entre autres, ainsi qu'un autre forum de voyages. Cela m'a coûté la bagatelle de 385 euros pour des papiers que je n'avais pas besoin. Quand, à mon retour, je me suis rapproché de mon agence de voyages, en leur posant la meme question que j'avais posée à Expédia et à un autre forum de voyages, mon agence m'a dit que je n'avais pas besoin des papiers. Je leur ai dit que je les avais déjà, sur recommandation de certaines personnes (sans les nommer) et la personne m'a dit qu'il aurait simplement fallu que je les contacte et que j'aurais économisé cette somme. Seulement dans ma réponse, je notais bien qu'il ne fallait pas se fier qu'à une seule source, mais prendre des renseignements là où ils sont (dans les ministères des affaires étrangères et ambassades ou consulats du pays où l'on se rend, dans les agences de voyage et sur des forums sérieux de voyage).
Je ne pense pas que ce soit le but.... Tu vas te retourner contre l'agence qui t'aura oralement mal informé ?... J'aimerais bien voir ça !... J'ai appris une chose dans la vie, celle de ne jamais me fier à des renseignements oraux, mais à envoyer un courrier ou un courriel pour avoir une réponse écrite, que ce soit pour un voyage ou pour d'autres renseignements administratifs.
Une personne intelligence va vérifier toute information obtenue, même celle des canaux officiels. Des fois, j'ai quelques doutes sur des personnes qui viennent te demander des renseignements ici à quelques jours de leur départ.
Cordialement
C'est toujours très amusant pour moi de voir suggéré de demander des informations à une agence de voyage 😏... Voilà vraiment un bon moyen de partir avec de fausses informations... Je suis parti une fois en voyage en consultant le site d'Expédia, entre autres, ainsi qu'un autre forum de voyages. Cela m'a coûté la bagatelle de 385 euros pour des papiers que je n'avais pas besoin. Quand, à mon retour, je me suis rapproché de mon agence de voyages, en leur posant la meme question que j'avais posée à Expédia et à un autre forum de voyages, mon agence m'a dit que je n'avais pas besoin des papiers. Je leur ai dit que je les avais déjà, sur recommandation de certaines personnes (sans les nommer) et la personne m'a dit qu'il aurait simplement fallu que je les contacte et que j'aurais économisé cette somme. Seulement dans ma réponse, je notais bien qu'il ne fallait pas se fier qu'à une seule source, mais prendre des renseignements là où ils sont (dans les ministères des affaires étrangères et ambassades ou consulats du pays où l'on se rend, dans les agences de voyage et sur des forums sérieux de voyage).
Je ne pense pas que ce soit le but.... Tu vas te retourner contre l'agence qui t'aura oralement mal informé ?... J'aimerais bien voir ça !... J'ai appris une chose dans la vie, celle de ne jamais me fier à des renseignements oraux, mais à envoyer un courrier ou un courriel pour avoir une réponse écrite, que ce soit pour un voyage ou pour d'autres renseignements administratifs.
Une personne intelligence va vérifier toute information obtenue, même celle des canaux officiels. Des fois, j'ai quelques doutes sur des personnes qui viennent te demander des renseignements ici à quelques jours de leur départ.
Cordialement
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My departure is slowly approaching, and now that I’ve got my Russian visa sorted, I’m fine-tuning the rest of my trip to Tajikistan. Since the Tajik visa is no longer required for stays under 30 days (for French nationals), I’ll need to visit the Ministry of Interior (OVIR) to register within 10 days of entering the country. No big deal, though, since I had to go there anyway to apply for my GBAO permit. 😉 However, I’ve *seen* several reports from travelers (mostly motorized) mentioning that you need an entry permit for Kyrgyzstan, which has to be arranged in advance at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) in Dushanbe. Otherwise, you’re *stuck* at the Kyzyl-Art border (with no Wi-Fi, of course, to try and sort it out). The most recent report was from a year ago, so I’d love to know if this is still the case and if it’s indeed at the Kyrgyz Ministry (consulate?) where you need to go for this pre-authorization.
Does anyone have any recent info on this?
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone.
I’m leaving for almost 3 months in the Philippines (11 weeks total) starting in early May.
I already have my round-trip ticket.
The problem is, I don’t have time to get a 2-month visa because the process takes nearly a month.
From what I’ve read here and there, I need a return ticket valid for less than a month when I arrive in the Philippines to prove my good faith.
After that, I can apply for a 30-day extension at the immigration office.
I’m planning to either buy a fully refundable ticket to the nearest country or a fake ticket.
For 3 months, I’ll need to extend my visa two more times before my return date to France.
My question is this:
Will immigration ask me each time I extend my visa by one month to show proof of an exit ticket matching the new visa extension date?
Is it possible to extend directly by 2 months before the initial 30 days expire?
Thanks in advance for your experiences and tips! 😊
Hello to all the Thailand regulars.
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
I’ve been to Thailand several times, but it was about 20 years ago…
There’s a new system in place now, it seems.
TDAC – Thailand Digital Arrival Card.
Before arriving, I apply for a TDAC, okay. If during my stay I cross the border to spend a few days in Malaysia and then re-enter Thailand, do I need to submit a new TDAC application? Do I use the same TDAC as when I first entered the country?
Or do I initially have to pay for a Thai multi-entry visa?
Thanks in advance for your insights—I can’t find the answer online.
Pierre
My partner (Mexican) entered France on January 21st as a tourist. She was therefore entitled to stay for 90 days in the Schengen Area. She’ll be leaving for Mexico on April 16th, so she’ll have “used up” 86 days.
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
She plans to return to France on July 18th. According to the European Commission’s Schengen calculator, this new stay “may be authorized for a maximum of 90 days.” That’s not very clear ("may be," "for a maximum of").
The text of Article 6 of the European regulation (2016/399) states that for a stay planned in the territory of the Member States, not exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period, one must examine "the 180-day period preceding each day of the stay." That’s not very clear either.
My partner wants to return to France for a 90-day period starting on July 18th. Is this possible?
There are two ways to look at it:
1) The first day she spent in the Schengen Area was January 21st. That day will drop out of the calculation 180 days later, on July 20th.
From July 20th, she’ll get back 1 day of possible stay; on July 22nd, 2 days; and so on. All the days from her previous stay (January 21st–April 16th) need to be outside the 180-day rolling window. The last day of her stay was April 16th. Looking 180 days ahead, that brings us to October 13th. From that date, she’ll be able to return for a full 90 days. 2) The number of allowed days is calculated for each day of the new stay. In other words: the 180-day window is recalculated every day, not fixed at the entry date. If she re-enters France on July 18th, she’ll only have a “credit” of 4 days. But with each day of her new stay, one day from the previous stay (January–April) will drop out of the calculation. The rolling window allows her to “replace” days from the previous stay with those of the new stay, without ever exceeding 90 days in any 180-day period. In this case, my partner could stay in France for 90 days starting on July 18th. The Prefecture doesn’t provide any information, nor does Air France, and in the forums I’ve checked, opinions are divided. Thanks for any insights you can share!
Hello,
We’re planning to travel to Indonesia (Sulawesi with family) next July and August for a stay longer than a month (about 6 weeks).
I’ve seen that it’s possible to get a 60-day visa before departure, but I’ve also read about people having a lot of trouble getting it (some even didn’t manage and had to leave without it).
We absolutely need to have these 4 visas BEFORE leaving because once we’re in Sulawesi, I’m not sure we’ll be able to go to an embassy to request a visa extension after 30 days.
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
In short, how can we **100% guarantee** that we’ll get our 4 60-day visas before our trip this summer?
Thanks for your valuable tips!
Elodie
Hi there,
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
I’m leaving for Japan in a few weeks. I just noticed my passport has an ink stain on the signature page. Could this cause any issues?
Hello, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026!
We’re heading back in October for a trip through Botswana, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
I have a question: for our route, we’ll need to cross the Zambia and Zimbabwe borders twice each. From experience, I know we won’t have any issues with Botswana.
But for the other two countries, I can’t find a clear answer.
All your tips are welcome!
Thanks for your replies
Thanks for your replies
Hi everyone!
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel
I’m currently a student on a gap year, and I don’t plan to go back to school right away. That said, traveling really interests me. But I’ve been wondering: does being a student come with any perks when you decide to go abroad? The real question is whether I should re-enroll in a program just to keep that status without actually attending.
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Axel