Logement à Canton en Chine
by Canton10
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
bonjours a tous,
je compte aller a canton au mois de septembre et j'aimerai que vous me donniez quelques infos pour trouver un hebergement de la periode du 5 au 15, le moin cher possible meme si l'hotel est pas terrible lol
de plus si quelqu'un sait ou je peux trouver des billets pas trop cher, je suis preneuse..
merci
si quelqun veux des infos sur les voyages en turquie, grece, tunisie ou algerie pas de problemes!!!!
Bonjour chère inconue
Canton, c'est pas un nom !
Pour des Infos sur Canton, demande à mon amie Winnie :panyingqin@hotmail.com
Elle habite Ghantzhou ou qquechose comme ça ! (Ce qui signifie Canton en Chinois
Elle est hyper sympa E-maille lui de la part de Fernand de France, mais en Anglais ou en, Cantonnais !!!
Elle sera en France vers le 20 Septembre mais elle te répondras par e-mails !!!
Bye
FerDex
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FerDex
Salut Ferdex, "Ferdex" c'est pas un nom ca? 😛
Je propose des hotels dans le sujet
foire de canton en Chine Pour les billets? des billets de cinema? d'avion? si oui de ou a ou? 🤪
Je propose des hotels dans le sujet
foire de canton en Chine Pour les billets? des billets de cinema? d'avion? si oui de ou a ou? 🤪
Comme le veut la tradition à chaque fois qu'un sujet est ouvert sur Pékin ou Canton, je vais y aller de mon petit message pour taquiner yagao 🙂
La ville n'a donc pas été rebaptisée, c'est sa transcription dans notre alphabet qui a été remplacée. En anglais, cela s'apparente à un rebaptême (???), mais pas en français, puisque Canton reste le nom officiel de la ville dans notre langue. 😉
Mais au fait, tu as peut-être la réponse toi, "canton", c'était la transcription de la ville ou de la province? En mandarin, "canton" c'est beaucoup plus proche de Guangdong que de Guangzhou. Par contre je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est en cantonnais.
La ville n'a donc pas été rebaptisée, c'est sa transcription dans notre alphabet qui a été remplacée. En anglais, cela s'apparente à un rebaptême (???), mais pas en français, puisque Canton reste le nom officiel de la ville dans notre langue. 😉
Mais au fait, tu as peut-être la réponse toi, "canton", c'était la transcription de la ville ou de la province? En mandarin, "canton" c'est beaucoup plus proche de Guangdong que de Guangzhou. Par contre je ne sais pas ce qu'il en est en cantonnais.
Bien j'ai corrigé mon precedent post, revenons a nos moutons 😉
bien sur qu’elle a été rebaptisée, la ville a été fondée en 250 avant JC sous le nom de Panyu "il y a un district au Sud de la ville qui porte toujours se nom." Il semble que le nom de Guangzhou lui a été attribué en 220 mais on lui connaît aussi d’autre noms ; SuiCheng, WuyangCheng, YangCheng, HuaCheng. Un fait est que souvent suivant la dynastie régnante les villes été rebaptisées. Pour la petite histoire, d'apres ce que je viens de lire, c'est le navigateur Tome Pires «portugais» en 1514 qui lui donna le nom de Canton. Pourquoi ? 🤪 Bref, si je transcris le nom en Cantonais de la ville ça donne Gwong² Zau¹ "c’est pas du Pinyin" Cuang Zhou est la transcription du mandarin en pinyin.
T’intéresses tu à la Toponymie ?
bien sur qu’elle a été rebaptisée, la ville a été fondée en 250 avant JC sous le nom de Panyu "il y a un district au Sud de la ville qui porte toujours se nom." Il semble que le nom de Guangzhou lui a été attribué en 220 mais on lui connaît aussi d’autre noms ; SuiCheng, WuyangCheng, YangCheng, HuaCheng. Un fait est que souvent suivant la dynastie régnante les villes été rebaptisées. Pour la petite histoire, d'apres ce que je viens de lire, c'est le navigateur Tome Pires «portugais» en 1514 qui lui donna le nom de Canton. Pourquoi ? 🤪 Bref, si je transcris le nom en Cantonais de la ville ça donne Gwong² Zau¹ "c’est pas du Pinyin" Cuang Zhou est la transcription du mandarin en pinyin.
T’intéresses tu à la Toponymie ?
Je ne m'intéresse à la toponymie qu'en tant qu'amateur peu éclairé, mais j'avoue toujours lire avec intérêt ce qui s'y rapporte. 🙂
Merci donc pour ces informations sur Canton que j'ignorais. Il me semblait que "Canton" était l'adaptation européenne - portugaise donc - de Guangdong, ou de son équivalent cantonnais. Il n'est pas impossible qu'à l'époque, le navigateur ait assimilé le nom de la ville à celui de la province. Mais j'avoue que cette information est incertaine. En tout cas, apparemment, ce n'est pas une transcription de Gwong Zau.
A plus long terme, la plupart des villes chinoises ont été rebatisées au cours de l'histoire chinoise. En fait, je serais incapable de citer une ville majeure ayant gardé le même nom pendant les 2000 dernières années. Rien que Pékin a changé de nom un nombre incalculable de fois (Beijing, Beiping, Zhongdu, Dadu, Khanbalik, etc...)
Merci donc pour ces informations sur Canton que j'ignorais. Il me semblait que "Canton" était l'adaptation européenne - portugaise donc - de Guangdong, ou de son équivalent cantonnais. Il n'est pas impossible qu'à l'époque, le navigateur ait assimilé le nom de la ville à celui de la province. Mais j'avoue que cette information est incertaine. En tout cas, apparemment, ce n'est pas une transcription de Gwong Zau.
A plus long terme, la plupart des villes chinoises ont été rebatisées au cours de l'histoire chinoise. En fait, je serais incapable de citer une ville majeure ayant gardé le même nom pendant les 2000 dernières années. Rien que Pékin a changé de nom un nombre incalculable de fois (Beijing, Beiping, Zhongdu, Dadu, Khanbalik, etc...)
bonjour ferdex, yagao et les autres...
tout d'abord merci de m'avoir repondu aussi rapidement c'est tres sympa!!!
je vais tenter d'envoyer un mail a ton amie car je pense qu'elle me sera d'une aide precieuse mais ca va pas etre facile, en anglais je me debrouille mais c'est pas le top et en cantonnais, je ne sais meme pas dire un mot lol!!!!!!!
bref, en ce qui concerne les billets ce sont bien evidemment des billets d'avion en partance de marseille et a destination de guangzhou ou meme de hong kong pourquoi pas, en fait je veux essyer de prendre le billet le moin cher pour pouvoir acheter un max de marchandise.
de toute facon je crois qu'il y a une ligne de train a grande vitesse entre hong kong et guangzhou qui relie ces 2 villes en 2 heures il me semble??
aussi si quelqu'un pourrait me donner des infos sur le prix du billet de train ..
d'autre part je cherche egalement un transitaire, pourriez vous me mettre en contact avec un et me dire le prix que ca me coutera au kilo, merci d'avance a tout le monde.
derniere petite question: est ce que tout les chinois dans cette region parlent l'anglais en general??
a plus tout le monde et encore mille fois merci et si quelqu'un cherche des infos sur quelque chose, n'hesitez pas a me demander egalement!!!!
salut yagao, effectivement j'ai eté sur les sites des hotels que tu as donné et meme sur le site d'information de la foire et ce que j'ai remarqué c'est que sur le site d'infos tout les hotels sont au minimum des trois etoiles, tandis que celui dont tu as donné le lien direct est un deux etoiles pour 17 euros a peu pres la nuit pour une chambre double mais je me demande si sur place(bien sur si j'y vais début septembre hors periode de foire) il n'y a pas moyen de trouver moins cher en tournant un peu en arrivant????
il doit surement y avoir des hotels propret pour moin cher, tu dois connaitre l'ordre de grandeur des prix puisque tu vis en chine;
excuse moi mais comme ca va etre la premiere fois que je me rend en chine, j'aime bien me renseigner au maximum avant de partir!!
merci a tout le monde et a toi yagao en particulier car je vois que tu es tres actif sur ce forum et que tu propose ton aide volontier
merci pour les remerciements, je me limite a ce que je sais c'est mieux ainsi non? 😉
Dans l'ordre de tes questions :
billets d'avion en partance de marseille et a destination de guangzhou ? Marseille > Paris > Guangzhou n'est faites qu'avec air-France est c'est pas la moins chere 😕 Y a la pub de finnair en ce moment a la TV qui ouvre une liaison, voir http://www.finnair.com/
Sinon un France / HK coute au minimum 600 euros.
pouvoir acheter un max de marchandise dans l'avion tu as droit à deux sacs en accompagné et une valise de 20 kg en soute
Hong kong et Guangzhou qui relie ces 2 villes en 2 heures il me semble le prix du billet de train la gare n'est pas a HK mais a Kowloon, Hung Hom, trajet 1h30 prix 21 euros http://www.it3.kcrc.com/B2C/UserPage/sysTimeTable_Eng.asp
je cherche egalement un transitaire regarde les sites des boites de transports, Fedex, UPS, DHL cela te donnes des idees. tu peux aussi chercher dans les yellows pages
est ce que tout les chinois dans cette region parlent l'anglais en general Autant que les francais qui parle le Russe 🤪 mais dans le business tu trouveras des interlocuteurs.
y avoir des hotels propre et pour moin cher oui il y a moins cher mais pas propre, mais alors pas propre ... 😕🤪 genre : les draps et serviettes ne sont changes que une fois par mois ou 7eme etages sans ascenceur etc...
Dans l'ordre de tes questions :
billets d'avion en partance de marseille et a destination de guangzhou ? Marseille > Paris > Guangzhou n'est faites qu'avec air-France est c'est pas la moins chere 😕 Y a la pub de finnair en ce moment a la TV qui ouvre une liaison, voir http://www.finnair.com/
Sinon un France / HK coute au minimum 600 euros.
pouvoir acheter un max de marchandise dans l'avion tu as droit à deux sacs en accompagné et une valise de 20 kg en soute
Hong kong et Guangzhou qui relie ces 2 villes en 2 heures il me semble le prix du billet de train la gare n'est pas a HK mais a Kowloon, Hung Hom, trajet 1h30 prix 21 euros http://www.it3.kcrc.com/B2C/UserPage/sysTimeTable_Eng.asp
je cherche egalement un transitaire regarde les sites des boites de transports, Fedex, UPS, DHL cela te donnes des idees. tu peux aussi chercher dans les yellows pages
est ce que tout les chinois dans cette region parlent l'anglais en general Autant que les francais qui parle le Russe 🤪 mais dans le business tu trouveras des interlocuteurs.
y avoir des hotels propre et pour moin cher oui il y a moins cher mais pas propre, mais alors pas propre ... 😕🤪 genre : les draps et serviettes ne sont changes que une fois par mois ou 7eme etages sans ascenceur etc...
Bonjour,
J'avoue que je ne comprends pas bien ce que tu veux faire...
Bref tu veux aller à Canton pour faire des affaires, c'est ça ? Enfin pour acheter des trucs là-bas en escomptant les revendre en France ?.... Mais tu es officielellement dans cette branche, ou c'est juste ton gentil petit bussiness free lance ?... Peut-être que ça ne me regarde pas.
Pour le reste, les Chinois parlent très peu anglais, et tu ne peux guère compter là-dessus, encore que ceux qui sont dans l'export, peut-être...
Le billet le moins cher ne sera pas Marseille-Canton, mais sûrement de plus gros aéroports à Canton ou HK. Sur Canton volent Air France, Southern depuis Paris CDG. Et pour ce qui est strictement MRS-CAN, a priori il faut compter 670 euros et c'est Lufthansa le moins cher.
Pour l'hotel, tu peux sûrement trouver moins cher, mais attention, Canton, même en septembre, tu seras peut-être bien content de rentrer dans un endroit un peu douillet le soir, surtout que pour 25 euros tu commences à avoir quelque chose de bien.
Michel
J'avoue que je ne comprends pas bien ce que tu veux faire...
Bref tu veux aller à Canton pour faire des affaires, c'est ça ? Enfin pour acheter des trucs là-bas en escomptant les revendre en France ?.... Mais tu es officielellement dans cette branche, ou c'est juste ton gentil petit bussiness free lance ?... Peut-être que ça ne me regarde pas.
Pour le reste, les Chinois parlent très peu anglais, et tu ne peux guère compter là-dessus, encore que ceux qui sont dans l'export, peut-être...
Le billet le moins cher ne sera pas Marseille-Canton, mais sûrement de plus gros aéroports à Canton ou HK. Sur Canton volent Air France, Southern depuis Paris CDG. Et pour ce qui est strictement MRS-CAN, a priori il faut compter 670 euros et c'est Lufthansa le moins cher.
Pour l'hotel, tu peux sûrement trouver moins cher, mais attention, Canton, même en septembre, tu seras peut-être bien content de rentrer dans un endroit un peu douillet le soir, surtout que pour 25 euros tu commences à avoir quelque chose de bien.
Michel
hello,
Je suis cantonais. A Guangzhou, il y a un Alliance Français où j'ai appris le français à l'année 2000. Il y a un Guest House s'appelle "wu zi zhao dai shuo", juste derriere le batiment où se trouve l'Alliance Français de Canton. Il est propre et pas cher -- 8 euros pour une chambre de 2 lits. Sinon, à Guangzhou, il y a beaucoup de Guest House sans etoile comme ça mais propre. Tu trouve l'adresse de AF sur le lien : http://www.af-canton.org.cn/fr/index_fr.html
Les jeunes cantonais parlent plus ou moins l'anglais, mais j'suis pas sûr si tout le monde le parle bien. Tu peut essayer demander un des élèves de l'AF pour te faire la traduction éventuellement. Je crois que des gens veulent aussi le profiter pour entrainer leur français oral.
Je suis cantonais. A Guangzhou, il y a un Alliance Français où j'ai appris le français à l'année 2000. Il y a un Guest House s'appelle "wu zi zhao dai shuo", juste derriere le batiment où se trouve l'Alliance Français de Canton. Il est propre et pas cher -- 8 euros pour une chambre de 2 lits. Sinon, à Guangzhou, il y a beaucoup de Guest House sans etoile comme ça mais propre. Tu trouve l'adresse de AF sur le lien : http://www.af-canton.org.cn/fr/index_fr.html
Les jeunes cantonais parlent plus ou moins l'anglais, mais j'suis pas sûr si tout le monde le parle bien. Tu peut essayer demander un des élèves de l'AF pour te faire la traduction éventuellement. Je crois que des gens veulent aussi le profiter pour entrainer leur français oral.
bonjour
vous arrivez qd exactem a GZ? J y serai surem mi juillet pour mes vacances, si ca vs dit on pourra aller boire un verre.
en ce qi concerne la coloc, vous avez jete un oeil sur le forum de mission eco? essaye de passer une annonce sur that's GZ :http://www.thatsgz.com/
bon courage
en ce qi concerne la coloc, vous avez jete un oeil sur le forum de mission eco? essaye de passer une annonce sur that's GZ :http://www.thatsgz.com/
bon courage
sophie
D'autres sites pour trouver un logement sur GZ : http://www.move4rent.com/
Le portail francophone de Canton : http://canton.supadezign.com
Le forum de Chinadaily (en anglais ) : http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/forumdisplay.php?fid=23
Et that's GZ bien sur ;)
Il fait bon vivre à Canton ^^
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July 2026: I’m writing to you from Dali.
First, I got scammed on Booking—AI-retouched photos. No tourists at this hotel (Yishanju Designer Hotel), and the reality was horrible: dirty, with a disgusting breakfast. It’s better to use Trip.com here.
Next, the old town was an infernal cacophony, packed with tourists who shoved past without a care. Some vendors harassed you to buy things. All the stalls sold the same cheap plastic junk or other uninteresting stuff. The beautiful scenery was ruined by vendors lining 100% of the alleys. Impossible to walk, crushing heat, nothing good to eat except fresh fruit. Horrible experience.
Day 2: We went to Cangshan Mountain by cable car—the ride was short and nothing spectacular. We were at 2,600 m.
My plan was to see Erhai Lake. Unfortunately, I followed the advice of an AI chatbot: take the boat at Langkan Dock. The Didi dropped us off in the nearest area, which was full of charming little alleys but packed with Chinese tourists. The three-wheeled yellow cabs zoomed through the narrow streets, forcing you to hug the walls, on top of the scooters and other pedestrians to deal with. Crossing the neighborhood was hellish and suffocating. Once out, we hit the "corniche," which was also packed with Chinese tourists. The lake’s edge was all pebbles, and everyone was standing around taking photos. I was with my 5-year-old son. I would’ve liked to sit down and let him play with stones by the water, but it was clear we didn’t belong. They were even shoving each other for a shot! There were no boats in sight. In short, we’d had enough, and there was nothing interesting there either.
On the way back, we had to cross that maze again under the scorching sun. My son was braver than me—I even had a little dizzy spell from all the chaos. Add to that Dali’s altitude (2,200 m), so altitude insomnia, fatigue, and vulnerability during the day...
The restaurants weren’t inviting—the staff served sticky rice in a little bucket. The dishes were wrapped, and you had to figure it out yourself. After that, they ignored you completely, even if you were the only tourist.
On the 3rd day, it was time to leave for Shaxi. I hope to see beautiful villages. But honestly, I’m exhausted by this atmosphere where everything is complicated, communication is never smooth, noise is everywhere, and the behavior of some Chinese people is abusive...
Silver lining: not a drop of rain in 4 days and blue skies.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
I couldn’t visit the villages in southern Yunnan because of rain and storms there... But I was expecting to see a few more tourists.
Hi,
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Great article that really captures what makes South Korea so appealing!
South Korea: Between Hallyu and the search for authenticity, the French are falling for the destination
Hello,
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
We’re planning a 17-day trip to South Korea in October 2026 with my husband and our daughters, who’ll be 9 years old.
I’d love to get your thoughts on our draft itinerary.
First, some key details:
1/ Jeju Island is a must for us. I’ve personally dreamed of going there for years after reading a novel about it. 2/ Our girls are used to road-trip style travel since they were born, so this kind of trip won’t be an issue for them. 3/ We plan to travel by train, except on Jeju where we’ll rent a car (we already have an international driver’s permit).
Itinerary:
Seoul: 1 arrival day at 10 AM + 4 full days Gyeongju: 2 days Busan: 3 days Jeju: 4 days Seoul: 2 days
Thanks for your feedback! Have a great day,
Sabrina
Hi there,
My girlfriend (23) and I (24) are heading to Japan for the first time from October 20th to November 6th. Here’s our itinerary:
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
6 nights in Tokyo 1 night in Hakone (ryokan already booked) 4 nights in Kyoto (hotel already booked) 2 nights in Osaka 4 nights back in Tokyo I’d like to book hotels for Tokyo (both stays) and Osaka, but I’ve gotten so many different recommendations.
I’ve read that Shinjuku is the place to be for its huge hub, accessibility, and things to do, but I’ve also heard about Shibuya, Asakusa, and Ueno. I’ve looked at hotels, and first off, I’m surprised by the prices compared to what I’ve seen on forums (I guess inflation’s hit here too… and maybe I’m late to the booking game?). I’m feeling a bit overwhelmed with all the options.
For our first stay in Tokyo, I’d prefer a hotel (not a residence or Airbnb) since we’ll be arriving at night, and it’s our first time in Japan. It’d be great to have a place with a reception, staff who speak at least a little English, and can give us some guidance. For the second stay, we could consider other options if it’s better. Budget-wise, we can go up to 150–180 € per night, but if we can save some money to spend elsewhere, that’d be amazing!
I’m open to all recommendations, hotel suggestions, or any other tips for Tokyo (first stay), Osaka, and Tokyo (second stay).
Thanks so much!
Hi there.
I’m traveling solo to China in October '26, heading to these spots:
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Guilin - Yangshuo - Chengdu – Leshan – Chongqing – Zhangjiajie - Furong – Shanghai
Any guides you’d recommend?
Tons of "agencies" (gowithguide, Hellechinaguide, etc.) offer guides. Can I reach out to them? I also speak English.
Any other tips for me?
Thanks! !
Hi there,
I’m getting ready for a classic tourist trip to China in May 2026.
The "Terres Lointaines" itinerary looks good to me, and the price is interesting.
Has anyone traveled with them before? Any feedback?
Is there a better option?
Thanks so much for sharing your experiences on this!
Michel
hi, does anyone have suggestions or contacts for a private local driver without going through a big travel agency for a multi-day trip in Yunnan?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Hi there,
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I just booked my hotel in Seoul—it’ll be near Unhyeongung, on Samil-Daero 30-Gil—and I’m wondering if there’s public transport from the airport to this address (bus or subway)? If not, what’s the taxi fare? I read it’s around 50 or 60 €.
I’m traveling to Japan with a young adult with autism (ASD) from July 28 to August 8, following a pretty classic route: Osaka, Hiroshima, Kyoto, and Tokyo. I’m looking for a schedule of the most spectacular fireworks displays during that time. So far, the dates for the major *hanabi* events aren’t available online yet. If anyone has them, I’d really appreciate it if you could share!
Hi there,
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
We’ll be doing a self-drive trip using public transport in May 2026.
On Day 6, we’ll arrive in Hakone by train from Tokyo in late morning. We’ll spend the night in Hakone before heading to Kyoto.
The main goal of this stop is clearly the view (no hiking) of Mount Fuji, not so much exploring Hakone, where the sights seem limited. I’ve read on the forum that the view is great from Gotemba, but it also takes a good hour by bus to get there. And, apart from that view, there’s nothing else to see in Gotemba!
So, I’m not sure what to choose. Any thoughts? Or alternatives to suggest? Maybe some spots in Hakone or Gotemba for a great view?
Thanks in advance.
Hi everyone, I’m Julien!
This summer, from late June to late July, I’m planning a one-month solo trip to Japan—my first time!
I’d love to hear your thoughts and advice on the itinerary I’ve put together to explore this amazing country.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Here are the routes I’m considering:
**Option 1: More mountain and nature-focused**
Tokyo: 8 nights, with day trips to Nikko and maybe the Izu Peninsula Kawaguchiko (Lake Kawaguchi/Mt. Fuji): 1 night. The place looks stunning, but I’m worried Mt. Fuji might not be visible due to the weather Kyoto: 6–7 nights (including a trip to Nara) Osaka: 1–2 nights, where I’d like to drop off my things to make the Kumano Kodo easier Kumano Kodo: 3 nights—an experience I haven’t seen much elsewhere, but I thought it sounded really interesting Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Takayama: 3 days Kanazawa: 3 days (From what I understand, the Osaka–Takayama–Kanazawa–Tokyo route is convenient for transport) Tokyo: 1 night (return)
**Option 2: More varied but a bit vague in parts**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Kobe + Himeji: just passing through—I’m not sure if it’s worth a night Naoshima: 1 night—still pretty unclear for me Takamatsu: 2 nights. An interesting city, but I’m not sure how long to stay Shimanami Kaido: biking from Imabari to Onomichi, then heading to Hiroshima Hiroshima: 2 nights Miyajima: 1 night Kyushu road trip (Aso + onsens + Fukuoka): 5 nights (also pretty vague—I could fly from Fukuoka back to Tokyo) Tokyo: 1 night
**Option 3: More balanced/simplified**
Tokyo: 8 nights Kawaguchiko: 1 night Kyoto: 7 nights (+ Nara) Osaka: 2 nights Koya-san: 1 night Kumano Kodo: 3 nights Takayama: 3 nights Kanazawa: 3 nights Tokyo: 1 night
A few key points: I haven’t made any reservations yet, except for the flight tickets. I know my plans are too packed and will need to be adjusted. I’m specifically looking for advice on which stops to cut or shorten.
Hello everyone,
Like Cedric13600, I’ve booked a flight ticket for 30 days / 29 nights in September 2026, from Beijing to Shanghai. We’re a couple in our sixties who love independent road trips.
I’d like to draw inspiration from the following private itinerary suggested by a travel agency:
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Day 1: Arrival in Beijing Day 2 to 4: Beijing Day 5: Datong Day 6 & 7: Pingyao Day 8 to 10: Xi'an Day 11: Luoyang Day 12: Dengfeng flight Day 13 & 14: Chongqing flight Day 15 & 16: Lijiang Day 17: Dali Day 18: Kunming Day 19: Jianshui Day 20 & 21: Yuanyang Day 22: Travel via Guilin Day 23 & 24: Yangshuo Day 25: Guilin Day 26 & 27: Zhangjiajie flight Day 28 & 29: Shanghai Day 30: Departure from Shanghai
But to do this itinerary independently: 1. This schedule seems very ambitious to me—what do you think? 2. If it’s too packed, what would you remove as a priority? Thanks so much in advance for your help.
Hello everyone,
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
I’m planning a 5-week trip between Yunnan and Sichuan from mid-October to the end of November 2026: Arriving in Kunming, I’ll do a loop in the far south of Yunnan via Thonghai, Jhiansu, Zhemi, Yuanyang, Nafa, Jinping, Mengzi, and Shilin (visiting markets, villages, and hiking), then head to northern Yunnan/southern Sichuan on the same theme (passing through Kunming again) via Dongchuan, Huize, Qiaojia, Puge, Xichang, Lanba, Butuo, Huolie, Dimo, Riha, Niuniuba, Meigu, Mabian, and Leshan, before arriving in Chengdu (where I’ll take my return flight to Paris). This would be a trip with a strong ethnic/rural focus. Since I’ve never traveled in China, I’d love to hear your thoughts on doing this solo. Are there public transport options in the region? What tips do you have for traveling through this area as smoothly and enjoyably as possible? I’ve done quite a bit of backpacking in the mountains of northern Vietnam and really enjoyed using local motorbike drivers. Is something like that available in this region (through local tourist agencies or hotels)?
What should I be cautious about? Are local tourist agencies (or hotels) offering tours and guides reliable? If you know of any specialized sites sharing tips or experiences, or names of local agencies, hotels, etc., please don’t hesitate to share them! :)
In short, all your advice (on any topic that comes to mind!) is very welcome. Thanks so much!
Hi,
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
While researching South Korea, I came across the term "templestay," which refers to a Korean program that lets you stay in a traditional temple to discover Buddhism and Korean culture by living like the temple residents and doing activities like making lanterns. A templestay isn’t just for foreign tourists—on the booking site, I saw that some temples are more geared toward foreigners, with English-speaking monks.
I was wondering if it’s still worth it, especially in temples where the monks don’t speak English?
I'm 69 years old and heading to China, where most tourist sites are free or discounted for me. However, trip.com either refuses to let me book because the sites are free or doesn’t apply the discount. Does WeChat apply this discount if I book through them? How can I just reserve without paying and pay on-site? Is that possible?
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
How do I upload my passport to WeChat?
Thanks for your tips. Elisabeth
Hi there,
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
I’d love to get some feedback on our 30-day / 29-night itinerary in China. We’ll be there in September as a family with two kids (6 and 10 years old). Do you think I should cut a few nights between Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) and Yangshuo? I’ve planned 15 nights total there. We’ll be on a round-the-world trip starting May 2026 and will need to do schoolwork with the kids. Hoping to fit it in during train rides!! Ever since I started planning this China itinerary, I’ve been discovering completely mind-blowing places I’d never heard of before—30 days feels way too short for China!!!
Here’s our itinerary:
Beijing - 4 nights Forbidden City Great Wall of China Temple of Heaven
Xi’an - 3 nights Terracotta Army Muslim Quarter & Great Mosque
Chengdu - 3 nights Zoo - Research Base of Giant Panda Breeding Wenshu Yuan Temple
Wulingyuan (Avatar Mountain) - 3 nights "Avatar Mountains"
Zhangjiajie - 2 nights Tianmen Mountain
Furong Town - 2 nights
Fenghuang - 2 nights
Guilin - 2 nights Chuanshan Park Guilin Yaoshan Scenic Attraction Reed Flute Cave
Yangshuo - 4 nights Biking along the Yulong River Moon Hill Ruyi Peak Xianggong Hill
Shanghai - 4 nights Shanghai Disneyland Yu Garden / Yuyuan Garden Yuyuan Bazaar
Thanks! Cédric
Hi there,
We just got back from a 2-week trip to China as a couple, and before we left, the budget was the hardest thing to picture concretely. We found plenty of info on visas, apps, transport, and itineraries, but way fewer detailed breakdowns of what you *actually* spend on the ground.
So, we took the time to share our real budget for 14 days. In our case, we spent around 1,800 € per person, with a big chunk of that going toward round-trip flights at about 600 € per person. We were also pretty surprised by how affordable China can be once you’re there—transport is often cheap, and a lot of everyday expenses stay reasonable.
The trickiest part, in the end, was figuring out how to pay while you’re there, since it’s not always obvious if you’re not prepared. But once everything’s set up and you get the hang of it, it’s really smooth.
If this can help other travelers get a better idea before they go, we’ve broken it all down here:
https://aventures-sans-mesaventure.com/budget-2-semaines-de-voyage-en-chine/
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Happy travels and enjoy your adventure! Hélia
Hi everyone,
I’ve been planning several itineraries for a trip to Japan with my wife but would love your insights before we start booking!
In short, we want to go during Golden Week, see late-blooming cherry trees, and have the freedom to get around with a rental car.
Here’s the plan:
18-day itinerary in Japan (April 25 → May 12)
Goal: freedom, late cherry blossoms, culture & nature
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Days 1–3: Tokyo (April 25–27) Arrival and adjustment (no car needed yet). Neighborhoods to visit: Shinjuku, Asakusa, Meiji Jingu, Shibuya, Odaiba. Suggested activities: Ghibli Museum, Sumida River cruise, izakaya meals. Late cherry blossoms (yaezakura) possible at Shinjuku Gyoen. Pick up the rental car on the morning of April 27.
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Days 4–5: Mount Fuji & Hakone (April 27–28) Route: Tokyo → Kawaguchiko/Hakone (~2 h).
Activities: Lake Kawaguchi, Chureito Pagoda (Fuji views + late cherry blossoms) Onsen baths, Hakone Open-Air Museum. Stay: ryokan with onsen and views of Mount Fuji.
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Days 6–7: Takayama & Shirakawa-go (April 29–30) Route: Hakone → Takayama (~4 h).
Activities: Preserved old town, sake breweries, UNESCO village of Shirakawa-go. Stay: traditional minshuku (thatched-roof house). Cherry blossoms are finishing at this altitude — beautiful mountain/nature contrasts. ---
Days 8–10: Kyoto & Nara (May 1–3) Route: Takayama → Kyoto (~4 h 30).
Activities in Kyoto: Fushimi Inari (red torii gates), Golden Pavilion, Arashiyama, Gion (geisha district).
Day trip to Nara: Free-roaming deer in Nara Park, Todai-ji Temple, Kasuga Taisha Shrine. Stay: Kyoto (3 nights).
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Day 11: Osaka or Himeji (May 4) Route: Kyoto → Osaka (~1 h) or Himeji (~1 h 30).
Option 1: Osaka → modern vibe, street food, castle. Option 2: Himeji → stunning UNESCO-listed castle. Stay: Osaka.
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Days 12–13: Kanazawa (May 5–6) Route: Osaka → Kanazawa (~4 h 30).
Activities: Kenroku-en Garden (gorgeous in spring), Omicho Market, samurai district. Stay: Kanazawa.
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Days 14–15: Northern Japan – Aomori / Hirosaki (May 7–8) Route: Kanazawa → Aomori (~7 h, possible to break via Sendai).
Activities: Hirosaki Castle Park (peak bloom early May). Northern onsen (e.g., Sukayu). Stay: Hirosaki or Aomori.
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Days 16–17: Nikko (May 9–10) Route: Aomori → Nikko (~6 h).
Activities: Toshogu Shrine, Kegon Falls, Lake Chuzenji. Stay: Nikko.
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Day 18: Return to Tokyo & Relax in Kamakura (May 11–12) Route: Nikko → Kamakura (~3 h) → Tokyo (~1 h).
Activities: Great Buddha, Zen temples, seaside at Enoshima. Final night: Tokyo before the return flight.
Thanks in advance for your feedback!
hi! Is it easy to use for paying for all the small purchases at the markets? INSTALLATION AND USE WITHOUT ISSUES—do you also need a VPN for China?
Secondly, for using phone and internet, I have Orange—is it reliable, or should I go with Airalo instead?