Lombok, Indonesia: A Forgotten Paradise?
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Lombok, Indonesia: A Forgotten Paradise?

We’ve just returned from 3 weeks (yes, only that!) in Lombok, an island next to Bali, just a few miles away. Since I found very little information before leaving—except about the Gili Islands and organized Rinjani treks—I’ve tried to gather some details that might be useful for a Voyage Forum member looking to explore the area. Nothing exhaustive, but maybe a few great tips.

For those considering a Lonely Planet *Bali & Lombok* guide, be aware that the prices are wrong (expect a 30% increase, especially due to rising fuel costs), much of the info is outdated (the latest edition must be at least 2 or 3 years old), and the real good deals aren’t included. In short, don’t bother weighing down your bag (we already had 17kg of luggage for two—we’re getting soft!). A good map will be far more useful.

Climate: We went in late August to mid-September, so the weather was ideal in this region (best from June to September). It was pleasant, not too hot, with a light breeze keeping the Bintang cold in the evening—pure bliss!

Getting There: The cheapest way is to fly to Kuala Lumpur (Malaysia Airlines), then switch airports (getting to the LCC terminal costs 1.5 ringgit by bus) and take an AirAsia flight to Bali (booked in advance online). Once in Bali, to reach Lombok: either another flight—around 30 €—on a small propeller plane (probably a Dutch legacy); or by boat, but since you have to get to Padangbai in eastern Bali to catch the ferry, you “lose” (a very relative term when traveling) a lot of time (at least 6 hours total) to save a few euros. Since we were already mid-afternoon and didn’t want to spend a night in Bali, we opted for the “tuk-tuk with propellers” 😉. It was the first time I was weighed with my bag before boarding a plane! I know I’ve put on weight lately, but still…

After arriving in the late afternoon in Mataram, Lombok, we decided to find a bed nearby. Headed to Senggigi, Lombok’s main beach resort. We ended up at the first guesthouse, “Lina Cottages,” for 75,000 IDR a night. Exhausted, we headed straight to dreamland. I woke up around midnight, thinking I heard Massimo!??!! I hadn’t even had too much Bintang—was the jet lag giving me hallucinations ? No, I really did hear Massimo belting out a song! After a few seconds of “lost in translation,” I realized the Marina, Senggigi’s trendy bar, had—like every night—a live band playing, and these guys were covering that French classic (sic) you’ve probably heard at least once. Coming all this way just to hear “Massiiiimooooo, Massiiimmoooo, Massiiimmooomooooo…” blasting in your ears like you’re at a campsite in Juan-les-Pins—enough to depress anyone! Anyway, we left ASAP. Just enough time to check out Senggigi: its 4 or 5 bars, 10 restaurants, 3 or 4 luxury hotels—still far from Kuta Bali, but not really our scene anyway. We quickly realized there’s very little organized transport (except for a few Perama bus routes, almost all passing through Senggigi) in Lombok. To avoid spending our 3 weeks in bemos, we quickly opted to rent a car (too old for a two-person motorbike, though we’d done it in Bali… Turns out we made the right call—the roads in Lombok are way too rough for bikes). Senggigi is one of the few places on the island where you can rent a car and withdraw cash. After some tough negotiation, I got a Suzuki Katana for 120,000 IDR/day (instead of the usual 200,000 IDR). I was a bit frustrated—thought it was expensive. A local on vacation in Lombok (he’s lived in Australia for years) later told me he couldn’t even get that rate, saying prices had jumped with the fuel hike (from 2,500 IDR/liter two years ago to 5,000 IDR now).

Anyway, we left Massimo to his interplanetary success and headed south. I was curious to see if we could stay on a small island off Lombok’s southwest peninsula. After 60km and 1.5 hours, we arrived in Taun, where we found a “captain” willing to take us to Gili Nanggu. There seemed to be a guesthouse on the island. After some *very* tough negotiation, we got a round-trip price of 150,000 IDR for two days later (a guide taking tourists to the island for the day later told me he pays 185,000 IDR for the same trip). The island is barely a few hundred meters across, and the only guesthouse, “Gili Nanggu Cottages” (165,000 IDR/night), offered us a charming bungalow in traditional Lombok style. No negotiating possible—we were stuck on the island anyway! By mid-afternoon, the day-trippers (often from Senggigi) left. There were about ten of us staying overnight. The sand was white, the water crystal-clear with fish, and the sunsets stunning… but the coral was pretty damaged.

Next, we headed south to Kuta Lombok. The most direct route via Sepi was marked as “small” on the map… mmm… The Lonely Planet—this was the *only* time it was “useful” (sic)—had a special warning saying many readers had been robbed in the area. Wanting to clear this up for my Voyage Forum friends, we took the plunge! The road was *completely* wrecked—potholes everywhere, and if you ignore the rain-carved ravines, it was like a pothole per square meter! I was searching for tarmac to park my wheels! After 80km and 3 hours of bone-rattling driving, with stunning views of Lombok’s arid southern countryside and deserted turquoise bays, we arrived in Kuta Lombok. On the way, instead of robbers and thieves, we only met schoolchildren with big smiles shouting cheerful “hellloooo’s.” We didn’t see a single other car the whole trip.

Kuta is nothing like its Balinese namesake. It stretches just a few hundred meters along a beautiful round-sand bay (yes, round—it rolls under your feet). About ten deserted restaurants and just as many guesthouses (5% occupancy, I was told—we only saw about ten Westerners in 3 days). No guesthouses face the beach; they’re all on the other side of the road in an inner garden. A bit of a shame. Still, the bay is gorgeous, and a few fishing families live in very basic huts on the beach. We decided to check out the Novotel to get a feel for the area. The lush vegetation contrasted with the surrounding aridity, two pools… all that fresh water being used, plus the Accor flag, made me want to head back to the fishermen’s huts. Finally, we found a guesthouse on the beach at the eastern end of Kuta Bay, just before the Novotel: “Lombok Baru.” It’s the only one on the beach. The bungalow was spotless, right by the sea, for 105,000 IDR/night. The Chinese-Indonesian family running the place told me they’d only been open for 3 years and were growing slowly as they saved up. A new bungalow was under construction, and the “garden” was still a work in progress.

The Tanjung Aan bay, a few kilometers east of Kuta, is stunning—huge, white sand, and almost no one except a few persistent sarong sellers. The bay is definitely worth a visit (if not a sunburn). A toothless old man even tried to sell us a coconut, improvising a song (after my girlfriend started singing to ignore them 😉). With his three words of broken English, he sang: “Coconut mist’errrr… mister coconuttttee… If no coconut, no monyyyy… Coconut mister…” for at least 10 minutes! A rare moment, a beautiful encounter. The song stuck with us for the rest of the trip—even now, I hum it to avoid getting too depressed about being back home. One evening, a Balinese waiter who’d been living in Lombok for 7 years gave us lots of info about the area, the culture, and the people. He talked about the security issues in Kuta—yes, there are frequent thefts (money, cars, etc.). For him, it’s due to the lack of education among many locals, who don’t see beyond their immediate needs and risk scaring tourists away (which is why Kuta is so deserted). After a few days there, you do get the sense that you shouldn’t tempt fate by flashing money or jewelry amid such poverty in southern Lombok. But calling it a “dangerous area” is a stretch! That won’t stop me from going back, though!

Next, we headed east—northeast, actually. I was curious about the small islands on my map, and I hadn’t found *anyone* who’d been there to give me tips. So we drove to Labu Pandan (115km, 3 hours—I may have pushed the Katana a bit…). What looked like a small village was actually just a guesthouse and a few fishing boats on the beach. The “Pondok Gili Lampu” guesthouse also sold basic supplies to locals and had a simple restaurant with 5 or 6 basic bungalows (60,000 IDR/night) and a beautiful deserted black-sand beach. They offered snorkeling trips to Gili Lampu and camping there (organized by the guesthouse), but there were no facilities or water on the island. The strong wind made us decide to stay on the beach—poor visibility for snorkeling and sand in the sleeping bags didn’t sound appealing… The owner, Yanto, didn’t speak a word of English but was absolutely lovely. Another heartwarming encounter that did us so much good. Life was sweet, and we let ourselves drift to the rhythm of faraway relaxation.

Then we headed to Sembalun Lawang, the least crowded starting point for the Rinjani trek (most people start from Senaru). The southern route was fine—we crossed a 1,700m pass. The only person we met was an ice cream vendor on a motorbike overtaking us on the climb—he must’ve been in a hurry, which is ironic for an ice cream seller! After 65km and 1h15 of winding roads, we arrived in Sembalun Lawang and parked our trusty Katana at “Sembalun Nauli,” which had 4 standalone bungalows (90,000 IDR/night) in the middle of nowhere. There was nothing around—just the Rinjani looming ahead, our goal for the next 3 days. The guesthouse arranged our gear (sleeping bags, tent), hired two porters, and bought food. I got a price of 1,400,000 IDR for 2 people for 3 days. I think you could get it down to 1,000,000 or 1,200,000 if you did it yourself, but we hadn’t seen a single person in SL (not a restaurant in sight—even the Rinjani Trekking Center was closed, the guy was supposedly napping…). I didn’t feel like stressing over it. It was a far cry from the 170 USD/person quoted in Senggigi!

The 3-Day Rinjani Trek was a unique experience—not just for the scenery but also for the (relative) “sharing” with the porters: Mister Adi (who spoke a little English) and Mister An (who only spoke Sasak and Indonesian). On the first day, we went from Sembalun to base camp: 1,700m elevation gain under the sun, 6 solid hours of hiking (not counting breaks). My shared backpack, weighing around 10kg, felt heavy on the climb. We took breaks to drink, while our porters smoked!! I don’t know how they did it! The next day, we left at 2:30 AM to reach the summit (1,500m elevation gain) by 6 AM for sunrise. The last 300 meters were brutal—a 35/40° slope, straight up in sand and small stones. Those who say you move a meter forward and slide 50cm back haven’t seen the slope! It’s more like 20cm forward and sometimes 20cm back… tough stuff. But we made it to the summit (3,726m)—not everyone does. A word to the wise: you’d better be in good shape and, above all, have the right mindset! More beautiful than the sunrise was the moonrise—almost full and reddish—around 4 AM. It was stunning! As for vertigo, sure, you’re walking along a ridge, but even for someone like me who’s not a fan of heights, it was fine. Back at base camp, Mister An had made delicious banana pancakes—a local ritual, apparently, and a treat for us! Then we descended to Segara Anak Lake in the crater. It was steep, and with our legs like telephone poles, it wasn’t easy: “Adeng adeng, Mister An!!!” We enjoyed the hot springs (40°C!) and I even swam in the lake itself—the water must’ve been around 20°C, incredibly pure. I was alone facing Gunung Baru, the active volcanic cone: unforgettable! On the third day, we climbed back out of the crater, then descended 2,000m to Senaru, where ojek (motorcycle taxis) were waiting to take us back to Sembalun to retrieve our car, still parked at Sembalun Nauli. Then we drove to Senggigi (2 hours, flat out), where this time we stayed at Dharmarie (150,000 IDR instead of 300,000 IDR)—spotless room, nice bathroom, much quieter than Lina! We returned our Suzuki Katana 3 days late (I thought they’d have a heart attack—they’d been looking for us everywhere, even going to Kuta!). Anyway, I paid for 2 extra days out of the 3, and we headed to catch the Perama boat directly to Gili Air from Senggigi (70,000 IDR/person).

We chose Gili Air based on the posts I’d read on Voyage Forum (thanks 😉). Somehow, we ended up with a French friend at Hotel Gili Air (yes, I know—after our Rinjani adventure, we treated ourselves…) on the north side of the island, where we negotiated the room down to 225,000 IDR/night from the listed 38 USD. The included breakfast was huge, and the seawater pool was a nice touch (if not the hotel staff…). The island was pretty nice—white sand, pretty fish, turtles—but the coral was damaged in many places. Hammock, snorkeling, grilled fish, and Bintang—a simple pleasure

After 3 days, the travel bug bit us again. We wanted to reach Komodo by boat. Two agencies offered 4-day one-way trips to Flores: Perama (1,400,000 IDR/person for deck sleeping) and another (name forgotten) for 850,000 IDR. Couldn’t negotiate with Perama—the next departure was in 5 days (every 6 days, I think). We went with the other one. Everything seemed fine (the boat actually left from Labuhan Lombok, east of Lombok, which we reached by bus from Gili Air) until the agency told us there were only 2 flights a week from Labuan Bajo in Flores back to Bali, which would leave us stuck for 3 days in Flores and make us miss our return flight to Kuala Lumpur. To top it off, the agency lady said we were only 6 people signed up, and the boat wouldn’t leave with fewer than 8… so it fell through. We decided to end our trip with a few days in Bali to see how the island had changed since our last visit in 2003.

I won’t go on about Bali—it’s much better known than Lombok—but here are 3 great spots: - Ubud: So much construction since 2003! You’d think you were in a French city center with all the shops! “Nick’s Pension,” near the top of Monkey Forest—take a small alley to the left as you go up, all the way to the end. A green paradise in the middle of rice fields, quiet, just 50m from Monkey Forest. Nice pool. 300,000 IDR/night, negotiated down to 150,000 IDR. - Amed: “Wa Wa We We II” (120,000 IDR/night)—gorgeous infinity pool, charming bungalows, “relax” vibe. - Jimbaran: “Villa Puri Royan” (from 120,000 IDR)—like a hacienda on 3 levels with a pool in the middle. Right next to the beach warungs. *The* good deal in Jimbaran.

When you go from Lombok to Bali, you notice a clear difference. First, in terms of development. In Lombok, cars are rare outside Mataram/Senggigi. Development is far behind Bali—probably what Bali was like 20 years ago! I heard that construction on an international airport in Praya, central Lombok, started on August 1, 2006… Even if it takes 5 or 10 years to build, maybe it’s time to go. Then there’s the “people” factor—culture or religion plays a role. It’s true that it’s less easy than in Bali (which is so unique…), and relationships can be tougher, even tense at times. Maybe it’s just less accessible for “whirlwind travelers” like us. The car also saved us from many hassles (negotiating bemos, ferry arrivals, etc.). Still, we had some amazing encounters and never felt unsafe. I imagine other experiences could be different, especially if you’re easily intimidated.

I hope you’ll find some useful info in this post. When you visit this part of the world, try to get off the beaten path of the Gili Islands or Senggigi. Lombok and its people are well worth a detour.

Selamat Jalan
Happy !
AL Alan Globetrotter ·
Trip reports on Lombok are rare...... I can't believe I explored it by bemo and taxi. It's a shame you didn't make it to Tetebatu, but hey, to each their own journey. I'm happy to see that Kuta Lombok is still so quiet......

Do you know if the Matahari is still open in Kuta Lombok? It was right there, turning right at the village crossroads on the way to the Novotel......

I also remember my first trip to....? The Gili Air Hotel with its pool practically on the beach—so nice. You can still eat with your feet in the water in the evening......? An Italian guy ran it back then, and another Italian runs Vila Almarik on Gili Trawangan, which I prefer.... You can party late into the night there..... 😉

Won’t take much to get me back there again..... 🙂 And let’s hope this little paradise stays forgotten for a while longer......

Thanks to you,
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Hello Allan,

Yes, I’d read your travel journal on Indonesia carefully before leaving. One of the few about Lombok! Tetebatu was a bit of a regret for us on Lombok, but going there would’ve meant a big detour, so we opted for a few days in Bali, which our friend hadn’t seen yet. Maybe next time!

I think the Matahari Inn is still there, yes. We stopped by to use the internet (only 2 places in Kuta!) and the connection had been down for a month! Kuta Lombok really is the middle of nowhere...

Gili Air Hotel is really nice, but we were a bit disappointed by the welcome and the friendliness of the staff... It always said "Italian Management," so I guess that’s a yes, but in any case, our Italian friend didn’t come to greet his French guests (maybe afraid of a headbutt? 😏)

All over Lombok, there was almost no one. In total, we probably crossed paths with about a hundred Westerners outside of Senggigi and the Gilis...

Surely still a slice of paradise for a little while longer...
Happy !
TY Tylassin Veteran ·
Hi,

I spent a little over a week in Lombok about twenty years ago. It was on an NF trip that lasted just under three weeks in Sulawesi, two days in Bali, and the rest in Lombok.

There were six of us (three couples) plus the guide. Pretty quickly, the other two couples realized they’d made a mistake—they thought a trek in Sulawesi would be a beach vacation. Long story short, when we got to Bali, the guide split the money with them, and they stayed behind to relax on the beach.

So, it was just the three of us left for Lombok. First night at the hotel, I take a shower. I’m lathering up, and—bam—power cut, no electricity, and no water either. After fifteen minutes, my friend had to grab the flashlight and fetch water from the pool so I could rinse off. 😎

We went to Lombok mainly for the volcano, Gunung Rinjani. The next day, we set off in the back of a truck for the start of our climb (I’ve forgotten the name of the village). Since the *Kapela Decah* had left for Hajj in Mecca, it was the local schoolteacher who put us up for the night and found us a guide for the ascent.

The NF guy had gotten info from a group that was *supposed* to have done it the year before. We’re a little skeptical now. 😎

So, according to the info, we were supposed to start via a path behind the power plant. Our guide, who didn’t speak English, seemed surprised by our interest in the *ruma electrika*. Fair enough—there was no path behind it. 😮

Anyway, we followed him to start the climb the right way. Gear-wise, we were a bit of a mess. Just three water bottles (the info said we could refill at waterfalls along the way, but there weren’t any), ultra-light sleeping bags, no tent, just a survival blanket. It was scorching hot on the way up, and our water supply dwindled fast—nothing to refill with.

That evening at the higher camp, dinner wasn’t exactly a feast—just dehydrated food. 😛 Luckily, we still had some rice wrapped in banana leaves that the teacher had given us.

At night, it gets *freezing* up there. Our guide was doing this climb for the first time too, and he wasn’t prepared for the cold either—even less equipped than we were. We shared socks, t-shirts, and other clothes to layer up. By morning, there was frost on the survival blanket, which helped quench our thirst a little. 😄

A final bite of rice to keep us going, and the summit—which *is* a bit steep from that side. The view into the crater is stunning.

We head down. When we reach the lake, we fill our bottles, drop in some purification tablets, and wait half an hour. The tablets had a slight menthol taste, and I can’t say the mix with the sulfurous lake water was exactly harmonious. 😛

Alright, we finally eat. 😎

Then, we climb back up the other side—a better-marked path with wooden steps for the descent. Again, we misjudged the time and ended up using our flashlights until we reached a village where we spent the night in a rice granary, downing several liters of the coffee they served us.

The next morning, our legs were *heavy*, but we had to walk to a slightly bigger village to catch a minibus to Gili Air. At one point, the minibus stopped, and we continued on a small path in carts pulled by buffaloes until we reached the sea. A little outrigger canoe, and we were on Gili Air—which, at the time, had just one guesthouse with four rickety bungalows on stilts by the beach.

Two days of rest, and we were off again to catch the small plane to Bali.

Such amazing memories—thanks for making me relive them! 😄
AL Alan Globetrotter ·
🙂 .... super thesamy for opening this travel journal on Lombok, because now other traveler friends are sharing their memories, and everyone’s reminiscing... so awesome, thanks to you tylassin! ........ 🙂

The little carts to get to the pirogue at Bangsal, which connects to the Gili Islands, are still there, and by the way, we also get around in these horse-drawn carriages...... it was actually in one of these that I left a good chunk of my hair (back in the day...... 🏴‍☠️), after tossing my bag in just as I was climbing aboard—the horse reared up, my head slammed into the roof full of metal, and an old lady already inside picked up a bloody piece of my scalp and handed it to me with a big toothless smile...... 😏

Adventure is adventure.......... 😉
CA CanadaGoose Veteran ·
Love your story! I’m heading to Indonesia next year, so this’ll really help... I’m not sure where I’ll end up yet (I’m still weighing my options), but I’ll definitely hit the Gilis. And a solid week in Bali too.

One thing’s bugging me though... Money-wise, how does it work? Can you easily withdraw cash from ATMs? Are they widely available? Do you pay in rupiah or USD like I’ve heard sometimes? I’m a bit lost here... 😊
CA CatherineGil Globetrotter ·
So great to read from you all! A real treat! Thanks everyone :)
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TH Thesamy Regular ·
No problem withdrawing money, especially in Bali where there are ATMs (almost) everywhere.

For Lombok, it's a bit more complicated—you can only withdraw in cities like Mataram, Praya... or in Senggigi. No ATMs on the Gili Islands, so make sure to bring enough cash, especially since places that accept cards are rare!

Pay in Rupiah, and avoid vendors who start quoting prices in dollars—they’re often 100 times higher than in Rupiah! Some hotels (mid-range to high-end) display prices in dollars, but keep in mind they’re ALWAYS negotiable, and you can also pay in Rupiah.

Personally, I never travel with traveler’s checks or anything like that—just my international card, and I withdraw cash when I arrive at the airport (like 100 €).
Happy !
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Oh, reading you makes me laugh so much! I can just picture you frozen and dehydrated at the summit well, we usually laugh about it afterward! It’s true that it’s freezing up there—must be close to 0°C, and if you add a bit of wind, you’ll quickly feel like it’s below zero...

Starting from Sembalun Lawang (you did start from Sembalun like me and descend toward Senaru with those wooden steps in the jungle), you need a guide who knows the area well because the path isn’t easy to find (it passes slightly above the power plant). The guide will also help you find sources of clean water along the way—there aren’t many in September during the dry season, so it’s best to have one!!!

Our guide told us there have been many deaths on Rinjani: not many tourists (though accidents happen, like falls now and then), but locals who come to fish in the lake and lack food, warm clothes, and, weakened, die from hypothermia due to rain (wet season) and the cold after nightfall...

Anyway, it’s best to be at least minimally equipped to enjoy this amazing trek!

Gili Air has developed a lot since your visit, but it’s still pretty quiet...
Happy !
TY Tylassin Veteran ·
When leaving from Sembalun Lawang (you did start from Sembalun like me and went back down to Senaru via the wooden steps in the jungle), you need a guide who knows the area well because the path isn’t easy to find (it passes a bit above the power plant). The guide will also help you find sources of pure water along the way—there aren’t many in September during the dry season, so it’s best to have a guide!!!

For our guide, it was his first ascent. He probably wasn’t briefed enough about the water sources. 😕

The path we took was quite far from the power plant, if I remember correctly. But your message helped me do justice to people I’ve never met, even though I wrongly accused them of being mythomaniacs for 20 years. 😎
CA CanadaGoose Veteran ·
Alright, thanks! I’ll do what I always do in Malaysia—just withdraw cash with my card and that’s it. 😎

For the visa, no need to bother getting it in France, right? We can just get it on arrival at the airport, can’t we?
TH Thesamy Regular ·
For the visa, no need to bother in France—you can easily get it on arrival at the airport, right?

No problem at all, at least in Denpasar. You can pay in US dollars or even with your credit card.
Happy !
RI Richardt Regular ·
Hello,

Thanks for this detailed account... we were waiting for it!

We’re planning a family trip (kids aged 12 and 14) to Lombok and Flores for 5 weeks in July 2007, but everything we’ve read had put us off. Because of safety concerns, the welcome... so much negativity. The complete opposite of what we saw from Allan in Marseille.

Could you confirm there’s no problem with our kids? We avoid Club Med and similar places because we love the reality of life, but we steer clear of danger.

Thanks

Richard and his family

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TH Thesamy Regular ·
Hello,

It’s always hard to give a "100% definite" opinion, but my experience—however limited—of Lombok doesn’t make me think the destination is particularly dangerous.

Personally, I never felt unsafe in Lombok, even if it’s true that interactions can be a bit more "direct" (that’s not the right word, but I can’t think of a better one) than in Bali, for example.

It seems there have been some thefts in Kuta, but nothing to panic about in my opinion—just a few basic precautions any savvy traveler should take...

That said, you’re never completely safe anywhere. Naps rightly pointed out that a few guesthouses and Catholic-owned businesses were burned (no deaths, I think) a few years ago... but hey, there are murders every day in France, and we don’t feel unsafe because of it ;-)
Happy !
PA PartirOu Regular ·
Thanks for your story.

The part about Lombok really interested me. I was in Lombok, but I only visited the "Gilis"! I have a flight to Kuala Lumpur for September and I’m still not sure whether to stay in Malaysia (with Borneo) or go back to Indonesia. I’d like to complete my Indonesia trip with a Rinjani climb and maybe Komodo... I saw you’ve been to Malaysia... Do you have any thoughts on the two destinations to help me decide?

Thanks, Gilles
Le Paradis n'est pas sur terre... Mais il y en a des morceaux ! Jules Renard
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Hard to compare...

Malaysia is way more developed than Indonesia, especially Lombok. If you rent a car and start touring Lombok, there’s a good chance you won’t run into almost any tourists. The Rinjani ascent is absolutely stunning, really. And as someone from the Alps, I’m not easily impressed 😉

Malaysia also offers some great hiking options, especially in Taman Negara. It’s much more jungle-like and not too mountainous, but still interesting. There are also gorgeous beaches in Malaysia (the Perhentians, for example).

The ideal plan: go for 2 months, 3 weeks in Malaysia and the rest in Lombok/Flores 😛
Happy !
PA PartirOu Regular ·
Thanks for your reply.

I’m only going for 4 weeks (September/October 2007), so it’ll be tough to visit both countries!

The jungle is what’s drawing me to Malaysia... The beaches and islands are also better in Malaysia...

But apparently, the weather’s better in Indonesia, the people too, and it’s also cheaper... For volcanoes, Indonesia wins...

Can you confirm what I’m saying, especially about the budget and the people?

Is it just as easy to get around by scooter/motorcycle in Malaysia as it is in Indonesia?

Were you in Borneo?

Thanks in advance, Gilles
Le Paradis n'est pas sur terre... Mais il y en a des morceaux ! Jules Renard
TH Thesamy Regular ·
It's true that Indonesia, even Bali, is cheaper than Malaysia. Lombok is really inexpensive.

The jungle is nice, but I doubt you'll spend 2 weeks there!

In terms of people and hospitality, personally, we met some really friendly folks in Lombok. Malaysia might be more touristy, so less natural? It all depends on the encounters you make, I guess...

Scooters/motorbikes: didn’t try them in Malaysia—we used public transport for everything. It’s great for long distances but not very practical. In Lombok, I’d recommend a small 4x4; the roads can be really rough.

Check out some photos online—maybe that’ll help you decide... Otherwise, ask Alan, who knows both places well. I think he’s planning to go back to Bali/Lombok this year.

Four weeks in Malaysia might feel long, whereas in Indonesia, it’s ideal for Lombok, the boat to Komodo and Flores, and finishing in Bali... But hey, that’s just my take! 😇
Happy !
TH Thesamy Regular ·
4 weeks in Malaysia was "long"—okay, I’m really exaggerating... but it might just show that I’d prefer to head back to Lombok/Bali, as beautiful as the Perhentian beaches are...
Happy !
PA PartirOu Regular ·
But have you been to Malaysian Borneo?
Le Paradis n'est pas sur terre... Mais il y en a des morceaux ! Jules Renard
TH Thesamy Regular ·
No, unfortunately...
Happy !
SO Sowhat67 ·
Hey, I read your Indonesian story about Lombok with a lot of attention and pleasure! For my part, I discovered Lombok last August and went back in April this year, drawn by I don’t know what—like I was struck by love at first sight for this little island!!! So I just wanted to say, for anyone reading my reply, that Lombok is a wonderful place where the people are incredibly kind and sincere, the landscapes are stunning, all wrapped in a calm and "zen" atmosphere. To be honest, I’ve fallen so hard for Lombok that I’m planning to move there in the next few years. Anyway, if you want to chat more about it, I’d love to!
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Ah! It’s so nice to read that one more person loves Lombok!!!

I think I feel the same way you do—happy to be there, wandering Lombok’s trails without really being able to explain why. Wild, spicy, colorful, Lombok is a beautiful adventure for those who know how to stray from the well-trodden path of Lembar / Senggigi / Gili...
Happy !
AL Alan Globetrotter ·
😉 ..... there are at least three of us ..... and I’m going back at the end of the year ..... 🙂
TE Teamten Globetrotter ·
and I’ll be going back at the end of the year ... 🙂

Hi. Is this the right season to go? I thought that, like Malaysia or Bali, it was the (more) rainy season... That summer was better for visiting Lombok.
AL Alan Globetrotter ·
...... my last trip was back in October 2003 and it was nothing but bliss ..... great weather, not too hot, beautiful sea, not too many people, and easy to find places to stay .....

No, honestly no issues at all, and on the contrary, a lot of tranquility to really enjoy it at that time .... this time I’m thinking of going in mid-November ......

In the summer, for example, in the Gilis it’s hell trying to find accommodation, and sometimes the last pirogue brings a bunch of travelers who often end up having to spend the night on the beach before they can find a guesthouse the next day ..... but there are no problems like that here ......
TE Teamten Globetrotter ·
Really? 😮 I’d never have thought there’d be so many people in these parts…😕 Even in summer. Grrrr !
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Alan, what a pleasure! And lucky you, heading back! If the trails lead you there, let yourself be tempted by the journey to the roof of Rinjani—it’s a beautiful experience with a magnificent panorama...
Happy !
TH Thesamy Regular ·
We were there in September and honestly, we didn’t suffer from crowds at all!

Hardly anyone in the south of the island, no one in the east, and no one in Sembalun Lawang for the Rinjani.

The few tourists we did run into were actually on Gili Air and in Senggigi... But absolutely no trouble finding accommodation, though
Happy !
TE Teamten Globetrotter ·
it’s on our plans to go there maybe next summer (July-August 2008), we’ll see...
JC Jcbeaudry ·
Thesamy,

Your experiences in Lombok are really interesting. Have you done the same kind of trip in Bali, and do you have any tips on what to do there?

Cheers, Jc

TH Thesamy Regular ·
Yes, same trip to Bali, before and also at the end of the stay in Lombok (see the end of the travel journal), but I never took the time to go into detail—there’s already quite a bit of info on Bali, especially on the forum. Try using the "search" function.

Personally, I really like Ubud (at August’s place!), Amed, getting lost on the volcano road, heading toward Lovina, and continuing along the northern coastal route to the east—the one that circles Mount Agung after Amed to loop back eastward…

No real "must-do" activities, just a few destinations and a couple of temples planned in advance, but I mostly try to improvise as much as possible, explore, take the scenic routes, and get lost as much as I can 😉
Happy !
PA PartirOu Regular ·
Looking forward to hearing from you all—I might just stick to Lombok and Bali (3 weeks).

Gilles
Le Paradis n'est pas sur terre... Mais il y en a des morceaux ! Jules Renard
TH Thesamy Regular ·
When you say "contenter" you mean "to be happy," I assume 😉

Three weeks for Bali/Lombok is a tad short, but it’s doable without rushing too much!
Happy !
PA PartirOu Regular ·
Hey thesamy!

Can you give me some advice on two things for Lombok (or Bali): beautiful hikes in the forest (jungle) with maybe a bit of wildlife, and great snorkeling spots with preserved coral reefs!!!

I could also fly to Komodo and then sail back down to Lombok with stops for snorkeling (apparently, the snorkeling sites are amazing), but that would shorten my time in Lombok. What do you think?

Gilles
Le Paradis n'est pas sur terre... Mais il y en a des morceaux ! Jules Renard
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Lombok is a beautiful getaway, and you definitely shouldn’t miss Rinjani! The view is stunning, it’s quite arid on the Sembalun Lawang side, and you’ll trek through a tropical forest on the way down to Senaru at the end (I recommend doing it in that direction). The night by Segara Anak Lake on the second evening is truly magical—after reaching the summit in the morning, you can relax in the hot springs in the evening and enjoy the friendly vibe with locals fishing in the lake, right in the middle of the crater, under the stars... pure bliss! 🙂

For snorkeling, you’ll find some preserved spots on the Gili Islands, though I think many are damaged. I’m sure there are great deals in the south, west, and east of Kuta Lombok, but like anywhere, you’ll need to take the time to discover the best spots...

I’ve heard a lot about boat trips to Flores (and back) with some really nice snorkeling stops! Around Komodo, there seem to be great diving spots too. I still regret not being able to go further because of the limited return flights to Bali (only two per week—double-check before you go!) and not having enough people for the trip... If you head straight to Flores, returning to Lombok by boat is more relaxed, but there’s no guarantee a boat will be available at that time. Even though the Peramam seems to sail frequently, you might have to wait a few days. It also depends on the season you’re planning to go. Worst case, since I think you’ve already been to Bali, just enjoy Flores, Komodo, and Lombok—it’ll still be amazing in 3 weeks!

One thing’s for sure: 3 weeks is already short for Lombok + Bali... The minimum to really enjoy both is 4 weeks, in my opinion.

It’s hard to go back to the area and not stop by Bali, isn’t it? 😛
Happy !
PA PartirOu Regular ·
Thanks thesamy for this great reply!

Last week, I was torn between exploring Lombok further or traveling through Flores (or even Sulawesi). But since I’ve read some negative reviews about Flores and not many about Lombok, I’m now thinking Lombok might be what I’m looking for in my trip (friendly people, nature, etc.).

If I do Flores, I think I’ll stick to the far west—Rinca (for the dragons, but mostly for the snorkeling). Am I missing out on something by skipping Flores???

Yes, I can confirm—I need to spend some more time in Bali During my first trip, I only planned to pass through Bali, but in the end, I loved the island and stayed for 10 days (and I only saw northern Bali). Now, I want to discover a bit more of it. I’m also considering Nusa Lembongan, an island near Bali.

I have a question about climbing Rinjani (in the direction you mentioned). Is it doable without reaching the summit?

Thanks again, Gilles
Le Paradis n'est pas sur terre... Mais il y en a des morceaux ! Jules Renard
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Nusa Lembongan is nice, but not exceptional in my opinion. It's true there are some beautiful white-sand beaches, but it doesn't compare to the Gilis, and I felt like it was missing a little *je ne sais quoi*. Maybe it's too touristy and not enough Balinese spirit? Honestly, I couldn't say. During our second trip to Bali, we didn't go back to Nusa Lembongan—I prefer Amed, it's wilder.

The trek I'm telling you about for Rinjani (from Sembalun Lawang to Senaru) is totally doable without summiting. On the first evening, you sleep on the crater rim, and the summit is just a point on the edge. Since you descend the same way you came up, either you skip the summit and head straight down to the crater lake, or you let your partner sleep at base camp 😛 while you bravely tackle the 1,000 meters of elevation gain to the summit to bring back some great photos for them. Either way, you'll be back at camp by 8 a.m. Personally, my girlfriend really struggled (and so did I, for that matter!) toward the end, but she still made it. Today, she's really proud of it 😉

I recommend bringing at least some basic gear—no need to go full Himalayan expedition, but bring hiking shoes, a fleece, a Gore-Tex-type jacket, and a beanie. That said, I saw an Australian in button-up shirts (I say "shirts" because he had at least three layered on), and he wasn’t so cocky once he reached the summit... he didn’t linger up there 😉

To meet nice people in Lombok, you’ve got to get off the beaten path—avoid the touristy spots like Lembar, Senggigi, and the Gilis. It’s in the east and the center (including Rinjani) where we had the best encounters.

For Flores, I can’t really help—I’ve had to make tough choices too, it’s brutal
Happy !
TH Thesamy Regular ·
The plan is pretty rough, but it might give you an idea 😉
Happy !
TH Thesamy Regular ·
and a few other photos from the Rinjani trip to whet your appetite 😇
Happy !
PA PartirOu Regular ·
Love this photo/map!

And these photos—are you in front of the lake? The water’s nice and clean. Where exactly are the hot springs?

It’s making me want to go...
Le Paradis n'est pas sur terre... Mais il y en a des morceaux ! Jules Renard
TH Thesamy Regular ·
Yes, it's me. The water is incredibly pure! This lake is sacred to the Sasak people.

The hot springs are by the lake, slightly downhill, just a 5-minute walk max.

Yes, it makes you want to go back... so badly! !
Happy !
VI Viantricoff ·
Hi TheSamy, Awesome deal on Lombok...!!! It really made up our minds to go...!!! We’re heading to Mt Rinjani in 15 days. Despite your super-detailed descriptions, I’d still like to ask a few more questions: What’s the best way for us to get from the airport to Sembalun Lawang, considering we’re arriving in the late afternoon and there are four of us...??? A taxi, renting 125cc bikes, etc...??? We’re thinking of staying at the same guesthouse as you in Sembalun Lawang—do you know if it’s still around...??? If so, should we book in advance...??? After 3 days of trekking in the mountains, we’ll have one day left before our flight to Singapore... What do you recommend we do... A beach... Kuta...??? Isn’t it too far (even if we’re on bikes)...??? Thanks in advance 😉 ... Vianney.
TH Thesamy Regular ·
So glad this little travel journal is inspiring others to discover Lombok!

To get to Sembalun Lawan, renting a car (a small Katana) is the best option, especially for four people—it’ll even be more economical! The roads can be pretty rough, and on a bike it can be quite a workout... Plus, you cover distance quickly, the climb to Sembalun Lawan is pretty steep, and you’ll be more comfortable in a car (even though I’m a biker...). It’s easier to chat too!

I’m pretty sure the guest house is still there. As for booking, honestly, we were there just a *little* more off-season than you, and we didn’t see a single tourist in Sembalun Lawan! Worst case, there’s another guest house very close to the Rinjani trekking center via the little dirt path uphill, in the middle of a lovely garden (great pasta with homemade tomato sauce!)

One day really isn’t enough, and Kuta means a lot of driving for not much time... Closer to the airport, there’s Senggigi, but personally, I’m not a fan—too touristy. Alternatively, how about a night on one of the Gili Islands (Gili Air, for example)?

Have an amazing trip, and feel free to add more info about Lombok to this journal or another one!
Happy !
AL Alan Globetrotter ·
😉 .... we can start a Lombok fan club .... awesome ....!

I think the best option is still to stay in Senggigi for one night .... it's true that it's very touristy, but the evenings there are beautiful, and it can be a good idea to relax before leaving ..... plus, it's a bit far to go to the Gili Islands for just an evening .....
VI Viantricoff ·
Hey TheSamy, Thanks for your reply... Renting a 4x4 actually sounds like a good idea!!! Do you know if it's possible to rent one in Mataram...??? (If so, do you have an address...???) Do we need to hire a driver or can we drive ourselves (is an international license required...???)...??? Otherwise, for Gili Air: Is it possible to finish the trek by noon and be on Gili Air the same evening...??? Can you take the boat from Bangsal at any time, or are there set schedules...??? For the return trip, how long does it take to get from Bangsal to Mataram (our flight is late in the afternoon)...??? Thanks again in advance... Vianney.
VI Viantricoff ·
Hey Alan, Sorry, I replied to TheSamy before seeing your reply... Okay for starting a fan club... But I still want to see Lombok first...!!! Anyway, how about staying in Senggigi but then wrapping up the trek, crashing on Gili Air, spending the morning at the beach, and heading back to Mataram in the afternoon before finally returning to Singapore in the evening... If you’ve got a great tip for renting a 4x4, I’m all ears 😉 ...!!! Thanks and see you, Vianney.
AL Alan Globetrotter ·
No worries, and Thesamy knows those fantastic islands just as well as I do in many ways.....

Yes, you can do that..... especially since the last pirogue leaves around 4/5 PM, and that’s despite what the touts will tell you—they’ll insist on selling you tickets through an agency.....

Last time, I left Trawangan late morning to catch my international flight from Bali in the afternoon, so it’s totally doable...... but honestly, if you just want to enjoy a great beach moment, Senggigi’s beaches are still more beautiful..... though it’s true that exploring the Gili Islands is worth it, and it’d be a shame to be so close and not go.....

4x4..... no, I got around the islands by shared transport or just randomly ran into taxis that gave me rides..... you should find them easily, but watch out—they’re tough negotiators.....

Happy planning...
TH Thesamy Regular ·
For the 4x4, I rented it in Senggigi, but you can find everything right after leaving the airport without any problem. Be careful, they drive a hard bargain, as Alan rightly said 😉

It’s true that for the Gilis, it does feel a bit short... Don’t you have the option to rearrange things to gain a day or two after the Rinjani trek and just chill on the Gilis?
Happy !
MI MisterThib Regular ·
Thesamy, thanks in advance for your amazing travel journal and your invaluable tips...

I'm leaving in 2 days to spend 10 days exclusively on Lombok... The plan is Mount Rinjani, then Kuta, then a quick trip to the Gili Islands...

See you soon! Thib.
http://www.thibinspore.com -> 5 années de voyages en Asie ! (NOUVELLE ADRESSE !)

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