Nous envisageons de faire cet été le tronçon Passau-Orléans de l'eurovélo6. Pour cela, il nous faut rejoindre Passau (via Munich ?) de préférence en train en emportant nos vélos. Nous partons de Nantes.
Quelqu'un a t-il déjà fait ce trajet ?
J'ai vu un post de 2010 à ce sujet, mais sans réponse vraiment satifsfaisante.
Sur le site de la deutsh bahn, il semble que l'on peut trouver un train de nuit Paris-Munich, mais je crois comprendre qu'il n'accepte pas les bicyclettes. Pouvez vous confirmer ?
Peut être y aurait-il d'autres solutions ?
Merci de vos réponses
bonjour,
Au vu des complications de mettre des vélos dans le train, je ne vois que 2 manières de l'embarquer, soit prendre des train type TER ou intercités qui acceptent les vélos tel que, ce qui implique beaucoup de changements. Soit démonter les 2 roues, enlever les pédales puis l'emballer dans un film plastique ou une bâche, et le prendre comme bagage, très encombrant et lourd certes plus les sacoches (surtout ne pas en oublier une sur le quai), au moins il n'y a pas de complications pour la réservation et les disponibilités des trains autorisés.
de plus avec le vécu et les lectures forum les chose ne vont pas en s'arrangeant
je ne suis pas sûr que la solution ferroviaire soit la plus pratique .... et quitte à emballer son vélo, Nantes-Munich doit se faire en aérien sans problèmes (même si NDDL n'est pas encore construit !!!) - pour nos "voyages retours cyclo", nous avons testé la solution aller "par avion" avec les montures dans un carton récupéré chez un vélociste, carton démonté, plié et jeté sur place ... - et, de notre expérience, cette solution s'est avérée être la moins onéreuse !!!
Merci pour vos réponses.
Une solution envisageable : Nantes - Mulhouse avec les avions oranges (35€ de supplément par vélo) puis le train de Bâle à Passau. ça a l'air faisable.
Quand à un vol direct Nantes Munich, il n'y en a pas. ça impose donc un changement et le supplément qui va avec.
Sur le plan du principe, prendre l'avion pour aller faire du vélo ne nous enchante pas particulièrement, mais il faut vivre avec ses contradictions....
à priori, une compagnie sur Nantes-Munich (direct - mais seulement certains jours...) VOLOTEA .... à voir evt. avec eux pour les conditions de transport des "équipements sportifs" .... bonne recherche ...
Pour le bilan carbone, finalement, il est parfois plus utile de se pencher sur ses habitudes quotidiennes que sur un seul vol "de loisir" (et puis 2.000 kms en vélo pour le retour, ça compense !!!)
bonne préparation
Je ne pense pas effectivement que ce soit très facile par Münich. Je conseillerai plutôt Strasbourg - Stuttgart - Nürnberg - Passau, en train de jour. Les trains express allemands ont des emplacements vélos. Evidemment c'est une question de temps car je pense qu'il vous faudra passer une nuit dans un hotel ou camping pour repartir (bon pied, bon oeil) le lendemain.
Sur le site de la deutsh bahn, il semble que l'on peut trouver un train de nuit Paris-Munich, mais je crois comprendre qu'il n'accepte pas les bicyclettes. Pouvez vous confirmer ?
bonjour,
j'ai fait une recherche sur bahn.de: de Paris à Munich, en juillet, avec transport de vélo. Ca a l'air possible, même si les places sont limitées et qu'il faut reserver.
cf capture d'écran.
personnellement, j'ai fait deux fois Nantes Strasbourg direct, en TGV. C'est très pratique, ça coute 30 € par personne plus 10 € pour le vélo. Tu as le compartiment de tête de la voiture 1 réservé aux vélos.
le voyage dure 5 h.
après, pour rejoindre Passau, il y a pas mal de possibilités, surtout à base de "TER" allemands, qui ne nécessitent pas de réservation. ils sont très fréquents et très pratiques et suivent les cours d'eau. en plus ils s 'arrêtent partout, pratique pour les randonnées. Notamment tout le long du Danube, j'en ai pris à trois reprises quand j'en avais marre de prendre la flotte.
ne pas hésiter à faire tourner le site de la Deutsche Bahn très pratique quand on a compris comment il fonctionne.
dernière précision utile : sur les TER (en fait, l'équivalent, c'est à dire ni TGV ni intercity), il faut parfois payer une taxe pour le vélo. D'abord elle n'est pas très élevée, mais surtout elle est valable au moins 24 heures sur le réseau. Donc si vcous avez des changement, s ne pas la racheter une deuxième fois...
J'ai passé du temps à expliquer ce que je voulais à la gare de Munich, mais j'ai fini par obtenir un billet (enfin, quand je dis 1 billet, y'en avait 7 en fait!). Il s'agissait bien d'un train de nuit, et les vélos y étaient acceptés.
J'en ai eu pour 180 euros et 23 heures de trajet. C'était plutôt long et scabreux, mais bon, c'est possible en train.
Bonjour ,
si je résume il y a pas mal de possibilités en train :
- Nantes Paris en Train puis train de nuit pour munich et train régional pour Passau (merci Montvelorouge)
- Nantes Strasbourg en TGV puis trains régionaux jusqu'à Passau (Merci Bouaye)
- Succession de trains divers (merci Esaracco, bien le blog... et Lotrichien qui propose un autre trajet)
- Une autre succession de trains mais par Mulhouse en intercité (merci 178Jules)
et en avion
- Nantes Bâle avec easyjet (supplément 35€ pa vélo) puis train jusqu'à Passau
- Nantes Munich avec Volotea (+ 30€ par vélo) merci Lethieu
Ben voila, y a plus qu'à étudier tout ça en fonction du temps disponible et du budget.
Merci à tous
Alain
Salut
J'ai pris plusieurs fois le train de nuit Paris-Munich avec mon vélo, la dernière fois c'était en 2009 mais je doute qu'ils n'acceptent plus les vélos! En tout cas j'ai trouvé que c'était la solution idéale, en s'y prenant à l'avance c'est pas trop cher (60+10 euros pour le vélo mais comme on ne peut pas acheter le billet vélo sur internet, il faut l'acheter à la gare ou dans le train), il y a plein de place pour les vélos vu que c'est un train de la DB en plus l'espace pour les vélos est plutot bien foutu. Après en effet tu peux enchainer sur un train régional pour Passau, ca te fait arriver vers midi à Passau et tu peux déja rouler une demie-journée. Franchement ca me semble bien supérieur à l'avion, rien à démonter, pas besoin d'aller à l'aéroport, etc...
J'ai fait Munich paris l'an dernier en TGV (train mixte DB / SNCF).
Deux vélo avec sacoches sans réservation pour les vélo (et donc sans payer le supplément ...).
On avait juste démonté les roues, les pédales on on avait emballé avec du sac poubelle et du scotch marron de déménagement en deux colis par vélo(un colis roues et un colis cadre).
Pas le moindre soucis, pas de suppléments, train direct jusque gare du nord!
En tout cas bien plus simple que de l'avion !
Nous souhaitons partir en famille en rando vélo de Passau à Vienne en aout prochain. Nous avons la meme question pour nous rendre à Passau train, avion, voiture? quelles solutions aviez vous retenues.
Merci de votre réponse.
Nous envisageons de faire cet été le tronçon Passau-Orléans de l'eurovélo6. Pour cela, il nous faut rejoindre Passau (via Munich ?) de préférence en train en emportant nos vélos. Nous partons de Nantes.
Quelqu'un a t-il déjà fait ce trajet ?
J'ai vu un post de 2010 à ce sujet, mais sans réponse vraiment satifsfaisante.
Sur le site de la deutsh bahn, il semble que l'on peut trouver un train de nuit Paris-Munich, mais je crois comprendre qu'il n'accepte pas les bicyclettes. Pouvez vous confirmer ?
Peut être y aurait-il d'autres solutions ?
Merci de vos réponses
Bonjour,
Nous allons aussi parcourir l'euro velo 6 cet été de Passau à Budapest. Nous habitons Nantes et en train, c'est à priori impossible ou alors super long et peut-etre assez cher aussi surtout à 4 (nous avons aussi 2 enfants).
Nous avons plus ou moins décidé de partir en voiture, à moins que quelqu'un nous propose "THE" solution.
Donc si vous avez des infos, je suis preneur moi aussi.
A bientôt,
Olivier
Bonjour,
en fait on l'a fait 2 fois.
- Une première fois nous sommes allés en voiture à Passau, de là nous avons rejoint Vienne à vélo. Retour à Passau par le train (pas cher, et bien équipé pour le transport des vélos. Mais ça fait déjà 5 ans)
- Une deuxième fois il y a deux ans. Nous sommes allés en train de Nantes à Paris (TGV avec résa pour les vélos). Puis en train de nuit de Paris à Munich (Deutsch Bahn) et enfin de Munich à Passau en train régional. Ensuite vélo jusqu'à Orléans et retour en train de Orléans à Nantes. J'ai cru lire quelque part que le train de nuit de Paris à Munich n'existe plus, mais peut être est ce une erreur... à vérifier)
Cordialement
Merci pour vos information. laquelle des 2 solutions est selon vous la plus facile. Nous partons avec ma fille de 10 ans. En voiture je suppose que vous avez fait une ou des étapes. La route est elle facile à faire. Était il facile de laisser la voiture à PASSAU. En train j'ai l'impression qu'il y avait beaucoup de changement et aussi sur Paris Montparnasse Gare de l'est?
comment avez vous fait. au niveau du coût global savez vous estimer la solution la moins onéreuse.
Je vois que vous recherchez vous aussi quelques infos. J'aurai voulu vous demander ce qui avait guidé votre choix de préférer plutôt Vienne Budapest à Passau Vienne car nous hésitons encore. en combien d'étapes pensez vous faire cette partie?
La solution la plus facile est sans nul doute la voiture. Moins cher aussi si on part à 4 ce qui était notre cas. Nous avions laissé la voiture dans un camping dont j'ai oublié le nom à quelques kilomètres à l'ouest de Passau. Assez cher , 3 ou 4 € par jour pour le parking, mais il faut bien le dire, solution confortable.
Le train : changement à Paris (Montparnasse - Gare de l'est) et à Munich
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025.
It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border.
We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure!
Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food
I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics
Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads
The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route
I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.