J'avais prévu faire (en Octobre) 2 jours de trek dans les alentours de Sapa (avec Sapatrek), suivi de 2 jours dans les alentours de Bac Ha (samedi au marché de Can Cau, Ta Van Chu , marché de Bac Ha, etc).
Suite à la mauvaise nouvelle voulant que Sapatrek doit fermer boutique, je dois trouver un plan B.Je voulais faire un trek avec eux sachant qu'ils ne suivent pas les hordes de touristes, voyagent en très petit groupe, connaissent la région et les cultures , etc. Je n'ai pas envie de me ramasser dans un groupe d'un TO de Hanoi...vraiment pas mon genre.
Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait un autre guide à me suggérer qui offre des tours de qualité, loin de la cohue, en petit petit groupe?
Sinon, je pense à ne pas aller à Sapa, et passer mes 4 jours autrement (ex. à partir de Bac Ha). Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait des suggestions à me faire, sachant que je voyage seule (donc pas de location de 4x4 avec chauffeur..).
J'ai vu que quelqu'un avait fait la boucle Bac Ha-Ha Giang-Meo Vac en 4 jours à moto, et avait trouver ça merveilleux, mais ça semble un peu serré non? (et afin de voir le marché de Bac Ha, je devrais sérieusement réorganiser mon horaire, car présentement je passe jeudi-vend-sam et dimanche dans le nord).
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Je lis tous les messages du forum Vietnam religieusement :-)
J'ai vu que vous recommandiez sapapathfinder, et que olivier a confirmé que c'est une bonne agence. mais il y avait peu de détail sur le 'sytle' de cette agence. Je les ai contacté, mais j'aimerais bien avoir 2-3 options .
J'ai eu la réponse de Sapa Pathfinder, et le problème, c'est que le fait que je voyage seule..
Il me dise que pour me joindre à un petit groupe, c'est limité aux zones touristiques (Cat cat - LaoChai - Ta Van - Taphin),
et que pour faire un trek à l'écart de ces routes (ex. Ta Van - Seo Trung Ho - Ban Ho - Nam Toong), il faut que j'organise un tour privé. Je vais essayer de trouver des gens intéressés, mais c'est pas vraiment facile sur le forum.
Du côté de l'agence Ethnictravel, il peuvent me joindre à un groupe, si bien sûr ils y en a un. leur trek de 2jours passe par Thanh Kim, Sin Chai, Suoi Thau
des commentaires sur ces 2 options?
d'autres suggestions?
J’ai fais mes petites recherches pour les options de trek autour de Sapa version à l’écart (le plus possible..) des groupes de touristes.. et je crois que je penche pour cette option, avec un guide local (agence recommandée par Abalone, merci :-).
Que pensez-vous de ce circuit? Est-ce que ces villages/route sont hyper touristique, ou c’est sympa?
Jour 1 au départ de Ta Van, trek vers Giang Ta Chai et Seo Trung Ho (nuit chez l’habitant)
Jour 2 : trek vers Ta Trung Ho, et Ban Ho, puis retour en jeep vers Sapa
D’autres suggestions d’itinéraire sinon? Des villages à vraiment éviter (etc Cat Cat)?
Merci!
eBen oui, plus de Cedric et ses pistes sans troupeaux de touristes! Ceci dit, pas besoin de plan B; vous me contactez et je vous donne les coordonnees de guides certifies independants qui se feront un plaisir de vous balader en toute legalite, que j'ai contactes suite aux "evenements". Ceci dit, je vous signale qu'il y a du trekking fabuleux a Bac Ha, et garanti sans touristes. D'ailleurs, VOILA !
BAC HA
Alors, j’ai été soufflé ! Rien à voir avec Sapa pour un tas de raisons :
- Pas de touristes en semaine, à part quelques aventuriers. Ils arrivent le samedi soir ou le dimanche vers 10-11h pour le marché du dimanche (et repartent vers 14-15h).
- Des paysages époustouflants, complètement différents de ceux de Sapa. Les montagnes sont beaucoup moins hautes (point culminant 1800 m alors que le Fansipan est à 3148 m), donc, à perte de vue, leurs flancs sont couverts de terrasses à riz et maïs. J’ai passé 3 jours stupéfait du travail de Titan réalisé par les H’mong Fleurs ; quel peuple admirable de courage !
- Le marché du dimanche. Je m’attendais à un Disneyworld avec un touriste pour deux h’mong ; pas du tout ! C’est tout simplement renversant ! Imaginez des milliers de femmes habillées d’un costume époustouflant : ample jupe tout en minces bandes de tissu multicolores, corsage en tissu chatoyant mauve ou noir, et gilet/turban avec les mêmes bandes multicolores (plus des bijoux de toute sorte en argent) ; le gilet de certaines est couvert de perles de verre et/ou de paillettes. Il faut de 4 à 6 mois pour faire un costume complet. Les hommes sont bien moins attrayants : habillés tout en noir, et beaucoup ont de sérieuses têtes d’alcoolique, ce qui ne m’a pas étonné du tout après avoir goûté à l’excellent alcool de maïs local (meilleur que l’alcool de riz de Sapa), qui doit faire au moins 40°. Donc, il y a beaucoup de touristes, mais ils sont noyés dans la masse. Gigantesque marché où on vend de tout. C’est surtout pour les locaux une occasion de se retrouver (il faut voir les ripailles dans les immenses restaurants ; ayant auparavant vu les étals de boucherie, je me suis abstenu !). Parmi toutes ces H’mong, vous verrez quelques très belles femmes, grandes, minces, élancées, au fin visage, et habillées d’un très élégant pantalon noir, veste noire avec une mince ceinture rouge, et une petit turban multicolore à dominante rouge : ce ne sont pas des H’mong, mais des Dao Kim Mien.
- Les balades à faire aux alentours.
En règle générale, se balader en moto dans les montagnes, c’est magique. Mais ce n’est pas pour tout le monde dès que l’on sort des routes, les pistes étant souvent très dures à négocier. J'ai fait en moto une partie de ce qui est offert en trekking.
Voici le tour que j’ai fait le 1er jour : prendre la route qui monte sur Si Ma Cai (aucune pancarte indiquant « Can Cau », SMC est la principale bourgade avant la Chine) ; à 6km sur le long col montant sur Can Cau, piste avec panneau indicateur sur la droite montant au village de Lung Phin : elle est bonne sur 800m, après, c’est la galère. J’ai donc continué la route. Quelques kilomètres plus loin, nouvelle piste à droite avec panneau « Xa Lung Sui – 5km » : prenez-la, elle est bonne et les paysages ont magnifiques. Retour sur la route. Vous verrez sur la gauche une sorte d’esplanade avec un immense panneau en béton « Welcome to Si Ma Chai » : une piste prend sur la gauche : vous la prenez au retour pour un « trek » époustouflant. Continuer la route jusqu’à Can Cau (moche, mais il paraît que le marché du samedi est très chouette). Continuer ensuite jusqu’à Si Ma Cai –les panoramas deviennent extraordinaires. Curieuse ville où la vietnamisation va bon train (contrairement à ce que prétendent certains, qui doivent être aveugles vu que, où que vous alliez en pays H’mong, tous les business et l’administration sont au main des Viets, à part quelques locaux-potiches dans l’administration, pour la forme et sans aucun pouvoir de décision, ). Grosse bourgade avec un énorme développement immobilier en train, destiné à y installer tous les Viets possibles et imaginables. A noter un hôtel presque fini, le Hong Ngung (tel : 0974 384 044), élégant si on en juge par le lobby de faux marbre blanc : chambres à 160 000/200 000 et 300 000 ; il faudra acheter un permis à Bac Ha pour y séjourner. Retour sur Can Cau et prendre la piste à droite du panneau en béton (petit panneau « Ta Van chu 2 km »). Alors là, j’ai été soufflé ! Vous continuez la piste après Ta Van Chu, jusqu’à ce que vous arriviez à un T : tout de suite avant, tourner à gauche au coin d’une maison avec 2 côtés en mur blanc ; la piste retourne sur Bac Ha parmi des paysages presque aussi époustouflants que ceux de Dong Van-Mao Vac, mais je vous préviens, certains passages sont très durs, complètement défoncés dans les descentes. C’est tellement extraordinaire que j’ai remis ça le lendemain !
Les hôtels et restaurants de Bac Ha
- Le Sao Mai, longtemps le seul hôtel de Bac ha, est très bien. Dormir dans l’aile originelle 1, avec de grandes chambres à $20 ; il y a 2 autres ailes, l’une avec des chambres aux fenêtres opaques –une sale habitude au Vietnam, car ni vue ni lumière ($25) - et une toute neuve, complètement impersonnelle (($35). Internet, location de moto ($7), restaurant triste.
Le Sao Mai organise des treks super de 1, 2 et 3 jours où je suis allé en moto. Pour 1 jour, je recommande le Bac Ha-Lung Phin-Ta Van Chu ($20) ; pour 2 jours, le Bac Ha-Ta Van Chu-Lu Than en semaine ($45) et le Bac Ha-Can Cau-Ta Van chu-Bac Ha le samedi (pour le marché de Can Cau - $50).
- Le Cung Fu, tout neuf, et que je n’ai pas visité (pas eu le temps). Il parait qu’il est bien aussi, mais il donne sur des terrains vagues utilisés le jour du marché pour la foire aux animaux : buffles, chevaux, chiens, et oiseaux.
- Budget : Le Ngan Nga, en face du marché. Chambres correctes pour $10, et surtout patrons super sympas, mignonnes serveuses parlant anglais, et le meilleur restaurant de Bac Ha (terrasse sur la rue pour admirer les H’mong Fleurs tout en se régalant).
- Autre restaurant : le Hoang Nge, juste en face du Sao Mai, dans une jolie maison en bois avec petite terrasse. Le patron, M. Nge, se présente comme l’Office du tourisme de Bac Ha. Il vous fait les résas de train et de bus, notamment le Bac Ha-Lao Cai -50 000 dong : 9h, 12h, 14h 9 (prendre ce dernier pour le train de nuit Lao Cai-Hanoi, mais il y a 4 heures rasantes à passer à Lao Cai avant de se battre à la gare. Taxi : $40).
Je vous signale qu’il y a un bus de nuit tout moderne Bac Ha-Hanoi (180 000 dong) qui part à 21h dans les 2 sens.
Une curiosité à voir à Bac Ha : le « château » du Roi-Chat (Vua Meo). Contrairement à ce qu’écrivent le LP et le Routard, il n’a pas été « construit par les français pour complaire au chef H’mong Hoang A Tuong » (ils n’ont pas dû lire les explications en anglais hilarant), mais par ce dernier, un Tay, après avoir hérité de la fortune de son bandit de père, Hoang Yen Chao. Celui-ci, ayant compris qu’il y avait de gros sous à faire dans le coin, a acheté des terres qu’il faisait cultiver par des ouvriers agricoles H’mong Fleurs exploités à mort, et s’est lancé dans tous les trafics possibles et imaginables, dont les armes et l’opium. Le fils s’est fait construire ce grand palais baroque de plus de 10 000 m2, très bien restauré et en passe de devenir un musée local (entrée gratuite).
Pour aller à Bac Ha
- Train de nuit Hanoi-Lao Cai, puis bus public Lao Cai-Bac Ha (ou vous louez une moto chez M. Hai)
- Bus de nuit tout moderne Hanoi- Bac Ha (180 000 dong) qui part à 21h dans les 2 sens.
- Bus Sapa-Bac Ha (ou excursion organisée pour le marché du dimanche, départ de Sapa 7h30)
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
Je suis finalement partie avec la belle soeur de Olivier, pour passer la nuit chez la belle-mère. Je n'ai eu que très peu de contact avec Olivier, qui semblait être sur un lendemain de fête et trèèèès relax. Je suis partie avec la dites belles soeur, hyper sympathique, mais qui parle peu anglais. J'aurias eu des tas de questions, masi en même temps, ça faisait partie du dépaysement. Je n'ai croisé personne - sinon 3-4 touristes qui descendaient avec un tour guidé à Ta Phin, alors que je mangeais avec les femmes qui font de la broderie dans l'arrière boutique. C'était vraiment super d'être avec elles, et je n, ai aps été harcellée, probablement l'entente avec la guide. Je n, ai acheté qu'à sa copine qui a fait un bout de chemin avec nous, a ma guide, et à sa mère.
On se sent seul, et vriament dépaysé, c'est certain. La maison, un genre de grange avec un sol en terre battu, un feu pour la cuisine et une bassine comme bain avec un semblant de rideau. C'est vraiment les conditions réelles, pas une habitation pour touriste. Le lit dans un coin de la pièce commune (je me suis fait réveillée par un beau frère qui a garé sa motocyclette à côté de mon lit haha). C'était ce que je cherchais, mais ce n'est pas pour tout le monde, c'est certain. Il faut être à l'aise avec les long silence, l'observation, être un intru chez quelqu'un quoi, et des conditions très sommaires. Mais leur accueuil est vraiment très chaleureux, ce sont des gens hyper sympa.
un conseil, pense à apporter gravol, immodium et tablettes pour désinfecter l'eau (discrètement) .. j'avais oublié tout ça, et je me suis sentie un peu mal durant la nuit. peut-être l'eau, peut être le bain médicinal..
Je suis restée une nuit, ce qui était suffisant pour mon aventure solo, peut être qu'à deux je serais restée un jour de plus, faire d'autre balade, mais tout dépend comment on se sens à l'aise dans ce genre d'environnement. Perso, ça m'a permis de vivre quelque chose de nouveau, assez dépaysant, et c'était chouette.
Sinon, je ne suis aps vraiment restée à Sapa. Je suis partie en minibus pour BacHa, la veille du marché. je recommande vraiment cette option. Bien qu'il n'y ait pas grand chose à faire la veille du marché, ça permet d'être au marché avant els bus de toursites qui arrivent vers midi de Sapa. Et j'ai vriament ADORÉ le marché. C'était vraiment très beaud e voir tout ces costumes, et ça ne faisait vraiment pas attrape touristes. Les femmes sont vêtues comme elles le sont tous les jours, et font leur courses et lerus achats de vêtements. c, est tellement coloré! bien sûr, il y a des touristes, mais je n'ai pas trouvé ça "trop" touristiques. C, est certains que les premières heures sont les plus le fun. Et avoir un bon zoom pour prendre des photos à la dérobée, c'est super. vraiment, un de mes moments préférés.
La maison, un genre de grange avec un sol en terre battu, un feu pour la cuisine et une bassine comme bain avec un semblant de rideau. C'est vraiment les conditions réelles, pas une habitation pour touriste.
Je doute que cette maison ait l'habilitation pour vous recevoir.
En venant dormir, vous mettez en difficulté la famille devant la loi.
Olivier pour qui j'ai une certaine affection, le sait d'ailleurs. Il s'est probablement dérobé pour ne pas vous servir de guide.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
J'espère ne pas causer de problème à cette famille, qui m'a gentilement accueillie
En cas de nécessité absolue, vous trouvez toujours un logement d'accueil, il faut s'adresser au chef du village.
Votre passage était ni vu ni connu, tout devait bien se passer, sinon, vous aurez passé un bon moment au post pour justifier votre présence nocturne, souvent avec des amendes.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Tout établissement qui reçoit des touristes doit avoir déclaré son activité commerciale, en présentant un dossier d'hygiène et de salubrité ....
Je pense qu'il doit y avoir une exception de faîte pour les logements chez l'habitant notamment ceux qui se trouvent en montagne sur les parcours de trekking.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
L'hygiène fait partie des critères pour avoir l'autorisation: l'équipement, la sécurité pour les clients, une formation de l'hôtelier, une déclaration d'entreprise commerciale ...
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
Il me semble que vous ne me lisez jamais sur VoyageForum
C'est votre philosophie d'égo-vie de faire ce genre de remarque?🤪
C' est ca; c' est exactement ca. De façon générale, les viets sont des gens qui ne se prennent pas pour de la ....., mais ils prouvent tous les jours qu' ils en sont!🙂
Est-ce que quelqu'un aurait un autre guide à me suggérer qui offre des tours de qualité, loin de la cohue, en petit petit groupe?
Il me semble que vous ne me lisez jamais sur VoyageForum🙂
Je suis allé, suite à vos conseils, dans une agence de voyage à Hanoi. Malheureusement je n'ai pas pu faire avec eux, faute de place aux dates souhaitées... En tout cas vous êtes connu comme le loup blanc la bas 😉 un grand spécialiste de la région de SAPA !!
vous êtes connu comme le loup blanc la bas 😉 un grand spécialiste de la région de SAPA !!
J'essaie d'être équitable avec tout le monde et je ne privilégie personne.
Je connais Olivier depuis les premiers temps, il a été toujours très sage, j'ai pu rencontrer aussi Cédric qui a maintenant du recul dans sa vision et j'apprécie.
Je connais aussi les autres guides Hmongs, Dzao et Kinh.
Lucky that we have a home/Our Home is Nha May Man/Passing rain and dry seasons/In a full-of-love atmosphere/Besides my new family/I have brothers and sisters/The sun shines over the skies/Let's stay here, with all of us,
J'essaie d'être équitable avec tout le monde et je ne privilégie personne.
Je connais Olivier depuis les premiers temps,
Ah bon, ça doit être la raison pour laquelle vous écrivez cela avant, qui est entièrement faux 🙁
Je doute que cette maison ait l'habilitation pour vous recevoir. En venant dormir, vous mettez en difficulté la famille devant la loi. Olivier pour qui j'ai une certaine affection, le sait d'ailleurs. Il s'est probablement dérobé pour ne pas vous servir de guide.
Méfiez-vous de la vie, car les ratés ne vous rateront pas!
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Hello everyone,
Not long ago, I used to travel as a couple, but my husband has since passed away, and I’ve decided to set off again. The trip I took to Cambodia in January 2025 did me a world of good.
I’m now considering Thailand, a destination we never included in our plans because even 15 years ago, people said it was too touristy. Still, I’m thinking about the itinerary below, but I don’t feel up to arranging buses, trains, or guides on my own while I’m there. I’m looking for one or more drivers and have been in touch with an agency, but their offers are just copy-paste group tours that I don’t want.
So, if you have any contacts, experiences, or advice, I’d be so grateful if you’d share them with me. Here’s my rough plan:
Arrival in Bangkok
Ayutthaya (2 nights)
Kanchanaburi (2 or 3 nights)
Sangkhlaburi/Sai Yok (3 nights)
Sukhothai (2 nights)
Lampang (I’ve planned 3 nights, but that might be a bit much—it depends on what time I arrive in the city)
Chiang Mai
Chiang Dao
Pai
Chiang Rai
I was thinking about the Mae Hong Son loop—thoughts?
What do you think about staying overnight at the Golden Triangle?
When I look online, of course, I can find agencies that organize tours to national parks, etc.
I’m retired but in great physical shape. I’d rather go hiking than sit in hot springs with crowds of tourists who’ve all arranged meet-ups. I don’t want to spend a day at an elephant camp, and I don’t want to visit Karen villages.
I’d love to hear your advice.
Thank you all,
Hi,
On September 1st, we're heading to Kalimantan for six weeks, probably from Pontianak to the Derawan Islands.
I've scoured this site, which is usually my go-to 😉, and others like VoyageForum, but recent info is pretty scarce.
I'd love any tips on places you've visited—our itinerary is still a work in progress.
We're two couples traveling with backpacks, using buses, boats, guesthouses, and homestays.
Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
Could you share your thoughts on my 3-week itinerary?
We’re a small group (family + friends) of 12 people, planning to leave around January 21, 2027.
Here’s my itinerary:
3 nights in Bangkok
4 nights in Chiang Mai
3 nights on Koh Samui
3 nights on Koh Phangan
4 nights in Krabi
4 nights in Phuket
I’m also open to any great tips you might have...
Thanks, everyone! Alain.
Hi,
From Malacca to get to Jerantut, is it better to go back to KL and take a bus from there, or take a bus to Tampin and then a train? Any feedback on the "Jungle Train"? (duration, price, comfort, etc.). Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning a 3-week family trip next summer with our three kids, who’ll be 8, 8, and 7 years old.
After some research, we’re leaning toward Malaysia to combine nature/forests and paradise beaches. The idea is to introduce our kids to the country’s culture, nature, and wildlife.
We want a great trip but without splurging on luxury options like high-end lodges and resorts. We’re looking for comfort with a touch of authenticity—basically, a good middle ground.
I’ve started putting together an itinerary and would love your expert advice and tips to help us build this amazing trip with our little ones.
Day 1: Departure from France
Day 2: Kuala Lumpur
Stay at a hotel near the airport or KL Sentral.
Just one night.
Day 3: Morning flight to Sandakan (Borneo).
Stay in Sepilok
Day 4: Sepilok:
* Orangutan Center
* Malayan Sun Bear Center
* Rainforest Discovery Centre
Day 5: Depart for Kinabatangan.
Boat safari in the late afternoon.
Day 6: Sunrise safari.
Jungle walk.
Evening safari.
Day 7: Final safari.
Return to Sandakan.
Flight to Kuala Lumpur, then to Kota Bharu (or overnight transit depending on schedules).
Day 8: Transfer to the port.
Boat to the Perhentian Islands.
Days 9 to 13: Perhentian Besar
5 full days.
* Snorkeling
* Hiking
* Turtle watching
* Wild beaches
* Relaxation
Day 14: Return to the mainland.
Bus or private car to Taman Negara.
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Flores and then Bali at the end of September.
We’ve already visited both but this time, once we’re in Labuan Bajo, we’d like to take a boat to the Komodo Islands to see the famous Komodo dragons.
I don’t want to sleep on the boat—just a day trip would be perfect.
Does anyone know a reliable and friendly provider to recommend?
Thanks in advance, and have a great summer!
Summer seems to be the best time weather-wise for Bali.
And since summer’s when we can take a long trip, let’s go for Bali... even though we know it’ll be *packed* with people!
So we’ll steer clear of the island’s south...
Our current plan (19 days on the ground, 7 stops):
- 4 Nights (3 days) in Ubud
2 days for rice terraces / activities (Tegallalang, Campuhan Ridge, Monkey Forest, Bird Park, coffee plantation, market (?), dance "pestacle," cooking class and/or spa)
1 day with a driver for the Temples (Pura Gunung Kawi, Tirta Empul Spring, Pura Mengening, Goa Gajah...)
- 2 nights in Sidemen (1 day for Pura Kehen + Batur Caldera + Pura Besakih and 1 day to relax in the rice terraces)
- 3 nights on Gili Meno (Rest and beaches) from Padangbai
- 2 nights in Amed (1 day from Padangbai with the Abang rice terrace and Tirta Gangga baths, and the next day a boat tour in Amed)
- 4 nights in Pemuteran (1 day for transfer and rest, 1 day to visit Kawah Ijen, and 2 days of snorkeling at Menjangan Island)
- 2 nights in Munduk (1 day with the Dayang rice terrace and the 3-waterfall hike, 1 day at Pura Ulun Danu Bratan)
- 2 nights in Jatiluwih (1 day in the rice terraces, and on the last day, we’ll stop by Pura Taman Ayun in Mengwi and Pura Tanah Lot before catching our red-eye flight).
Accommodations in homestays or hotels.
Transportation to be arranged on-site with the lodgings (?)
Boat to Gili Meno to book in advance (?)
Kawah Ijen excursion to plan ahead (?)—check with the homestay (?)
Thanks for your thoughts/comments to help us explore this destination...
After reading and researching, we're planning the following stops in Cambodia in January 2027:
- Phnom Penh
- Kampong Cham
- Kratie
- Siem Reap
- Battambang
- Kampot (round trip)
I'm wondering about the direction of these stops, which could also influence our international flights.
Either a round trip from Phnom Penh in the order above.
Or landing in Siem Reap with the following order:
This second option would save us the Battambang - PP - Kampot trip but means doing a round trip to Battambang from Siem Reap and placing the "highlight of the trip" (Angkor) at the beginning of our stay.
We’ll be arriving in Phnom Penh this coming January and we’re thinking of starting our trip with a stop in Kampong Cham, then Kratie.
After Kratie, we’re considering heading toward Siem Reap with a stop in Kampong Thom.
However, I’m not quite sure how long the Kratie–Kampong Thom journey might take or how complicated it is.
Does this stop on the way to Siem Reap seem like a good idea to you?
If we don’t visit the Sambor Prei Kuk site, are there still some walks and/or things to see in Kampong Thom?
Hi there,
We’re planning to travel from Chiang Rai to Luang Prabang next November.
We’d like to take a slow boat from Chiang Khong—or rather from Huay Xai in Laos—with an overnight stop in Pakbeng.
Could you let us know if the boat still leaves Huay Xai in the late morning? If so, what time roughly, and what’s the price for the trip?
Thanks for your help!
Alod
We (3 adults: 68, 65, and 25 years old) are just back from a short trip to the Philippines, and I’d like to share a little summary of our journey. First of all, I’d like to thank everyone who contributes to this forum about this destination and answers the questions of those who aren’t familiar with it. I should also mention that my comments are personal and don’t reflect anyone else’s opinions. Since I don’t have any literary or photographic talent, I’ll stick to the facts and share a few details about the sights, hotels, and restaurants.
Preparations:
We chose this destination in December and quickly booked our flight tickets (540 € with Turkish Airlines) for a departure on February 16 and return on March 5, 2019. We then contacted two French-speaking tour operators based in Manila, asking them to put together an itinerary based on our wishes (places to visit, type of accommodation) and our budget. We wanted to see the rice terraces in northern Luzon, the hanging coffins in Sagada, before flying to the Visayas (Bohol, Siquijor, etc.), and the Taal Volcano, while limiting our nights in Manila as much as possible. In the end, we opted for Alize, whose itinerary and quote matched our request almost perfectly. Our exchanges helped us refine our circuit.
International flights:
The round-trip flights went smoothly. Turkish Airlines, while not at the level of Asian or Gulf airlines, does the job just fine.
Day 1:
We landed on time (6:15 PM) on Monday, February 16, at Terminal 3. We exchanged our euros (near the car rental counters), and I can confirm the exchange rate was very good. On the way to the St. Giles Hotel (decent and affordable for a transit night), we got our first glimpse of Manila’s dense traffic. The Makati district, where our hotel was located, offers a wide choice of restaurants, so we grabbed a quick bite to recover from the trip.
Day 2:
This day was dedicated to transferring to Banaue. Fortunately, we had a comfortable van and an excellent driver for this journey, which took all day (8 to 9 hours with stops). We got a taste of driving in the Philippines—and it’s terrifying. You wouldn’t want to drive on these roads. The first thing that struck us was the relatively good condition of the roads and the cleanliness (a change from other Southeast Asian countries). This impression lasted throughout our trip. Around 6 PM, we checked into our room at the Banaue Hotel (large, charm-free, but with a beautiful view of the rice terraces).
Day 3:
With the help of a local guide, we took a jeepney to Batad. And then—wow! The rice terraces form an amphitheater overlooking the small village. Under the sun, it’s simply spectacular and breathtaking! Even though we’re familiar with rice terraces (Sapa, Bali, Thailand, etc.), we were dazzled by so much beauty. We spent the day walking along the terrace walls. This place is timeless and fully deserves its UNESCO World Heritage status. However, we returned to the hotel exhausted (due to our ages and lack of exercise). We had dinner with our driver at the Las Vegas restaurant in the center of Banaue. The meal was decent, cheap, and the Filipino owner played the guitar to accompany our dinner.
Day 4:
Today, our driver took us to Sagada. The mountain road offered spectacular landscapes (about 1.5 to 2 hours). Along the way, we stopped in Bontoc to visit the small but interesting anthropological museum. It features old photos and various objects from the Ifugao tribes, as well as a reconstruction of primitive dwellings.
We then went on a short hike in Sagada with a very friendly local guide who explained the region’s funeral rites. The walk started at the communal cemetery before reaching “Echo Valley,” where we saw the first coffins hanging on the cliff. We continued to the “Underground River” and a small waterfall, ending our journey in the “Lumiang Cave” burial cave. All in all, this day was very interesting. On the way back, we made a few photo stops.
In the evening, on our driver’s recommendation, we ate at the “Bistro,” a French enclave in the center of Banaue (good pizza, roasted quail, homemade fries).
Day 5:
Today was a transfer day. To limit fatigue and nights in Manila, our tour operator arranged a flight from Clark to Tagbilaran (Bohol), saving us 2 to 3 hours of driving. But to catch our flight, we had to leave very early: 5:30 AM. Our kind driver dropped us off on time at the airport. To use it, we had to pay a 150 PHP tax per person. The Philippine Airlines flight (15 minutes) left early and was far from full. Upon arrival, we were taken to the Loboc River Hotel, on the banks of the river of the same name. A very charming lodge lost in a tropical garden. We stayed in a stilt cottage overlooking the river. We relaxed a bit in the lovely pool. This place is really great—the staff is charming, and the food is excellent for a reasonable price.
Day 6:
This day was dedicated to exploring Bohol. The program was classic, starting with the tarsier sanctuary. We saw a few specimens in a small garden, each pointed out by a staff member. It was both good and disappointing because the animals were in pseudo-freedom in a small enclosure. Then we went to the “Chocolate Hills” and climbed 240 steps to admire the panoramic view of the hills—but by 10 AM, it was crowded. On the way back, we stopped at the butterfly garden, which was uninteresting: tiny, with few butterflies. We consoled ourselves by photographing beautiful flowers. To please our teen, we stopped at the Loboc Eco Tourism Adventure Park and crossed the river lying down, suspended from a steel cable (300 PHP). Finally, we had the traditional lunch-cruise on the Loboc River. It was a factory-like experience, and the meal was unremarkable. The only good thing was the singer on each boat and the lush vegetation. Afterward, we visited colonial churches and the cathedral, remnants of the Spanish presence, before returning to the hotel for a well-deserved dip in the pool. Note that for those interested, there’s an arena near the hotel where cockfights are held every Sunday—something Filipinos are passionate (if not obsessed) about.
Day 8:
Very early departure for the port. We boarded a *banca* in search of dolphins. After about an hour of sailing, we were lucky enough to spot around a hundred dolphins. Our boat then headed to the small and charming island of Pamilacan. After a walk through the little village, we came across locals traditionally building a boat. They told us it takes about a month to finish their outrigger boat. Then we had to choose our snorkeling spot between the coral garden, the fish park, and the turtle enclosure. Note that a fee is charged for each spot: 150 PHP per place and per person. It felt a bit like we were being ripped off, especially since the spots weren’t amazing—we’d see much better on Apo for much less. We had lunch on the island at one of the many small eateries (350 PHP per person).
Days 9 and 10:
On our return, we were taken to the Bohol Sea Resort on Panglao Island, where we stayed for 2 nights. It’s a small, recent establishment in a quiet corner of the island. It’s relaxing—maybe a bit too much. It has a nice pool and access to Danao Beach, but the view is blocked by a flotilla of boats. We didn’t try their diving school. The meals were good. If we had to do it again, we’d skip this stop to spend more time in Negros.
Days 11 and 12:
We took a fast ferry (Ocean Jet) from Tagbilaran port to Dumaguete and were taken to the Thalatta Resort, about 20 km away near Zamboanguita. We stayed there for 2 nights. Let’s just say it was our favorite. It’s a small place facing Apo Island. The rooms are simple, and the pool, nestled in a magnificent tropical garden, is fantastic. The staff is friendly, and the meals are very good. The hotel has its own diving center (snorkeling gear provided) and its own boats. We booked the Apo Island excursion: 1,350 PHP per person, including lunch. It was incredible: magnificent corals, colorful fish, and turtles of all sizes. The crew was endlessly kind and didn’t hesitate to dive to guide us to the best spots. In short, a perfect day. This site is ranked among the top 5 diving spots in the Philippines.
Since we were lucky enough to be there on a Wednesday morning, we explored the surprising Malapay Market, a 10-minute walk from our hotel. You’ll find numerous stalls selling vegetables, fruits, live or dried fish, and handicrafts. Enclosures are set up for selling livestock (calves, zebu, pigs). There are also restaurants. We were lucky to see two pigs roasted traditionally on a spit. There are few Europeans, and the people are warm. A great moment.
We left this beautiful place with regret because we didn’t have time to visit the island or go swimming with whale sharks.
Days 12 to 15:
From Dumaguete port, we took a short crossing (1 hour with Ocean Jet) to Siquijor Island to reach the Coco Grove Beach Resort. A beautiful hotel nestled in a spacious tropical garden. Several restaurants and bars, 4 pools. Despite the size of the place, it remains intimate. You can snorkel (corals and fish) right in front of the beautiful beach. We stayed in a very pleasant duplex suite. For those interested, there’s a spa and a diving center. You can also take the Apo Island excursion (offered at 1,950 PHP).
We spent our days relaxing between the pool and the beach. In the evening, the sunsets over Negros and Apo were stunning.
We booked an island tour with a comfortable tricycle from the hotel (1,500 PHP). The circuit was classic and allowed us to go around the island. We discovered beaches, the famous 400-year-old ficus tree with its enormous roots, and its equally famous foot bath with its cleaning fish. Then we visited the St. Isidore Convent before heading to the Cambugahay waterfalls and their four pools. The setting is idyllic, and the water is surprisingly good—we had a lot of fun swimming. We had dinner at a restaurant overlooking the island, where you can see Apo, Cebu, and Negros. In the end, Siquijor turned out to be a real little tropical paradise.
Since the hotel restaurants were expensive, we dined at nearby establishments: Fuego (clean, good—excellent raw fish—and quiet), Chekesch (louder), and the very pleasant Baha Bar, which brews its own beer and offers more refined cuisine.
Days 15 to 16:
We left at dawn to return to Dumaguete and its airport by ferry. We had breakfast at the Coco Grande Hotel, an annex of the previous one. The Philippine Airlines flight went smoothly. A driver took us to the town of Taal. We stayed at Paradores Del Castillo, right in the heart of the old town. It’s a charming old house with only 6 rooms. The various rooms are decorated with antiques—a real little museum. The garden is pleasant and opens onto the town.
It’s an old early 19th-century house converted into a hotel, beautifully arranged with 6 rooms in the heart of the city. The restaurant in the garden is very pleasant and offers a panoramic view.
We visited an old Spanish house before heading to the beautiful Basilica of St. Martin of Tours, one of the most beautiful religious buildings in the Philippines. A mass was in progress, allowing us to gauge the Filipinos’ fervor before we could visit. When we left, it was dark, and we could admire the illuminated building. We ended our evening by exploring the night market with its many fruit and skewer stalls. A nice surprise.
In the morning, we were taken to the shores of Taal Lake, an ancient caldera where a second volcano has formed in the middle of the lake, which in turn contains another lake. We boarded a *banca* to reach the island in the middle of the lake. This was followed by an uphill walk, made difficult by the high temperature (36°C) and the dust on the path. The dust was worsened by the many horses carrying (or bringing back) the less courageous. To illustrate the difficulty of the climb, the trail is marked by the Stations of the Cross and its 14 stations. We were panting while our guide trotted far ahead. Our effort was rewarded when we reached the summit and its viewpoints over the inner lake and the surroundings. The wisps of smoke seen here and there confirmed we were on an active volcano. Inside the lake, there are supposedly 45 small volcanoes, one of which emerged during its last eruption in 1911.
On the way back, we had lunch by the lake before returning to Manila and the Bayleaf Hotel, whose main merit is its location in the Intramuros district. In the late afternoon, we walked along the walls of the old city.
We had dinner on the hotel’s panoramic terrace overlooking the city and the bay.
Day 17:
Last day! Our tour operator joined us for a tour of the Intramuros district. He enriched the visit with comments on the history, geopolitics, and economy of the Philippines. We visited the Manila Cathedral, destroyed 7 times in the past (6 earthquakes and the 1945 bombing). It’s beautiful, and its stained glass is magnificent. We couldn’t enter the San Agustin Church, the oldest Catholic building in Manila. We passed by the memorial to the Battle of Manila, which claimed over 100,000 lives. We visited the area around Casa Manila, which was closed on Monday, and had a drink at Barbara’s cabaret, located in a historic house. A very enriching morning.
Then we went to the Mall of Asia, the world’s largest shopping mall, to buy some souvenirs (Kultura store) before being taken to the airport. We exchanged our last pesos at the buying rate right after check-in.
The return flight went smoothly. We regretted not being able to use the facilities of Istanbul’s new airport, as its opening was delayed by another month.
Finances:
In the end, we spent 1,640 € for the international flights, 4,200 € for the stay (hotels, visits, various transports) with the agency (whose professionalism we can only praise), and about 700 € for meals, tips, and souvenirs.
Summary:
Luckily, we had beautiful weather throughout our stay, with temperatures between 26 and 35°C. Discovering the Philippines was a wonderful experience. The diversity of the landscapes, the kindness of the Filipinos, the cleanliness, and the truly delicious fruits (especially pineapples and mangoes). We were never harassed, unlike in many touristy countries. On the other hand, the food, though generally cheap, wasn’t exceptional.
Since this country is so vast, we might return in the near future.
Though I’m not a specialist on this destination, I’m happy to answer your questions based on my experience.
So, my flight tickets have just been booked for a trip to Cambodia from November 4th to 27th, 2025.
I’ll be traveling solo and want to explore this amazing country while getting a bit off the beaten path.
I’m arriving in Phnom Penh and also departing from Phnom Penh.
My goal is to travel as much as possible by bus and scooter.
What itinerary would you recommend?
What are the must-do things?
I’m open to all tips and info.
Thanks in advance for your help and responses.
We got back enchanted from a 6-week trip to Cambodia!
Our itinerary: Kampot - Kampong Chhnang - Battambang - Siem Reap - Kampong Cham - Sen Monorom (Mondulkiri) - Banlung (Ratanakiri) - Kratie - Kampong Thom - Phnom Penh.
We traveled by bus, minivan, boat (between Battambang and Siem Reap), overnight bus, scooter, tuk-tuk, and rickshaw for shorter distances. We stayed in guesthouses, homestays, and even in the jungle during a trek.
While the Angkor temples are fabulous, it’s the people you should visit Cambodia for—the "Land of Smiles" truly lives up to its nickname! Tourists gather in Angkor but are quite rare elsewhere, even though the country is easy to travel around.
I won’t describe our trip in detail but instead highlight a few favorite moments.
From Kampot, don’t hesitate to head out around 6 AM to see the fishermen return and their wives selling their catch (just 10 minutes away by the coast). Guaranteed picturesque!
In Battambang, known for its food scene, we discovered a cooking class with Smokin’ Pot (authentic Khmer cooking class). They pick you up from your guesthouse to shop for ingredients (we made fish amok and beef lok lak) at their village market, then cook and eat together. A private class—just the two of us! They also send the recipes via WhatsApp as a PDF. +855 12 821 400
In Siem Reap, I can recommend a francophone tuk-tuk driver who was very attentive to our wishes. We visited tourist spots but also more remote villages and local grilled-pork restaurants with him. He’s a wealth of information about local life, and chatting with him was a real pleasure—we left with regret! You can reach him on WhatsApp: Vung Hem, +855 96 614 0146.
We did a 2-day, 1-night trek in Mondulkiri. Don’t expect a super dense jungle—it looks more like a forest similar to ours. But Nara, our Bunong ethnic guide, made the experience adventurous and ultimately very immersive! WhatsApp +855 86 630 489
Bee Bee’s Chalets homestay: If you pass through Banlung in Ratanakiri, we *loved* this family and their budget-friendly bungalows. Playing Uno, enjoying Nita’s cooking (ask for her fish amok—amazing!), it was a true homestay experience! Contact Nita on WhatsApp: +855 88 818 5525.
In Kratie, rent a scooter and follow the Mekong north for 40 km at your own pace. Being so close to the locals was a treat! Same goes for heading south if you have time.
Kampong Thom: Head 25 km out to visit the pre-Angkorian temples of Sambor Prei Kuk. Around a hundred monuments spread across three sites… and hardly anyone there!
A few practical tips:
Though prices are often listed in dollars, you can always pay in riels (1 USD = 4000 riels), which is what we preferred.
PassApp: An app to book tuk-tuks or rickshaws (and most importantly, know the price upfront).
Virak Buntham: A bus company connecting several cities, bookable online.
Feel free to ask me questions about places, accommodations, etc.—I’d be happy to answer!
We’re planning our second trip to Thailand (2 weeks on-site, late April/early May) as a family with our 5- and 7-year-olds.
On our first trip, we visited Bangkok, Ayutthaya, the River Kwai, Koh Lipe, Koh Phi Phi, and Khao Lak. We especially loved Koh Phi Phi for its limestone cliffs and lush vegetation, as well as Koh Lipe for its crystal-clear waters and snorkeling.
This time, I’m thinking of spending 7 days on the islands. I was considering Koh Tao and Koh Phangan. We’d like some scenery, snorkeling right from the beach, and a bit of atmosphere—but not too much (just enough to grab dinner in the evening).
For the other part of the trip, we’re torn between Chiang Mai and Khao Sok. One or the other… or both? We don’t want to rush, but we’re really nature-focused, so we won’t be hitting too many temples…
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