Poids du vélo?
by Jani
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour a tous, pour commencer c'est vraiment un site très chouette, une belle mine d'informations et plein de passionné(e)s!J'ai le projet de voyager un peu à vélo cet été mais j'ai quelques appréhensions, du notamment à la machine en elle mème.C'est mon vélo, je l'aime mais il pèse 24 kilos a vide(ancien vélo de facteur), c'est pourtant avec lui que j'aimerais me promener.est ce vraiment trop lourd?J'aimerais aller en Slovénie ou Roumanie en partant d'Angers, si vous avez quelques pistes pour un itinéraire, en vous remerciant sincèrement!
Latcho Drom a tous
Par les soirs bleus d'été j'irais par les sentiers...
salut jani
même si il est convenu que pour un vélo de voyage il ne faut pas trop s'occuper du poids, là avec 24kg a vide, tu atteins quand même des records! 😮 😏
maintenant, rien n'est impossible, et s'il est trés confortable... pourquoi pas!
tu comptes quoi dans les 24kg? avec portes bagages AV AR et sacoches vides j'imagine?
Salut,
Mon expérience du vélo n'est pas énorme non plus, en plus je voyage avec un tricycle couché, ce qui est encore bien différent mais la ou mon expérience rejoins la tienne, c'est au niveau du poids. En effet je tire une remorque dans laquelle se trouve mon fils, comem beaucoup de famille qui voayage a vélo, au total pas moins de 22kg à tracter plus le vélo lui même qui doit avoisiner les 15kg. Malgrès cela je regarde toujours la question du poids quand il s'agit d'équipement (bivouac etc.) histoire de ne pas aggraver la chose.
Je crois que tu trouvera la réponse à ta question au travers de ta philosophie du voyage à vélo. De notre côté nous ne nous fixons aucun objectif kilométrique et allons à notre rythme et ce en raison entre autre du poids. Donc si voyager avec ton vélo est un point clef, alors conserve cette solution...
Après tout pourquoi pas.
Mon expérience du vélo n'est pas énorme non plus, en plus je voyage avec un tricycle couché, ce qui est encore bien différent mais la ou mon expérience rejoins la tienne, c'est au niveau du poids. En effet je tire une remorque dans laquelle se trouve mon fils, comem beaucoup de famille qui voayage a vélo, au total pas moins de 22kg à tracter plus le vélo lui même qui doit avoisiner les 15kg. Malgrès cela je regarde toujours la question du poids quand il s'agit d'équipement (bivouac etc.) histoire de ne pas aggraver la chose.
Je crois que tu trouvera la réponse à ta question au travers de ta philosophie du voyage à vélo. De notre côté nous ne nous fixons aucun objectif kilométrique et allons à notre rythme et ce en raison entre autre du poids. Donc si voyager avec ton vélo est un point clef, alors conserve cette solution...
Après tout pourquoi pas.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
24 kg, mais c est énorme!!!!
moi, je dsuis plutot dans l autre extrémité: vtt 10 kg à vide, total des bagages: 4.5 kg!!
Tous les chemins ne mènent pas à Rome
Salut,
Total des bagages : 4, 5 kg ?? Comment fais-tu ? Pour voyager en autonomie, pour moi, c'est 12-15 Kg mini (en été) : tente (2 à 4 kg) + duvet (0.8 kg) + réchaud + popotte (2 kg) + gourdes (2 x 1, 5 L = 3 kg !!) + vêtements (2-3 kg) + nourriture (1 à 5 kg) + outils (1 kg) + les saccoches en elle-même (2-3 kg).
A+ Fred
Total des bagages : 4, 5 kg ?? Comment fais-tu ? Pour voyager en autonomie, pour moi, c'est 12-15 Kg mini (en été) : tente (2 à 4 kg) + duvet (0.8 kg) + réchaud + popotte (2 kg) + gourdes (2 x 1, 5 L = 3 kg !!) + vêtements (2-3 kg) + nourriture (1 à 5 kg) + outils (1 kg) + les saccoches en elle-même (2-3 kg).
A+ Fred
Plus haut, oui plus haut ! (les What4)
mes voyages se déroulent exclusivement au soleil en afrique, donc:
pas de tente, pâs de duvet (juste un drap en soie, pas de réchaud (je fais un feu), pas de popote( je prends juste un boite de conserve pour chauffer l eau et j ai un tupperwar.
vetement: une tenue pour le jour, une pour le soir pas de pull, pas de polaire, juste un maillot manche longue), 1 pantacourt et 1 paire de tongs.
pour les outils, je ne sais pas trop: 1 chambre à air, 1 mini pompe, des rustines, 1 recharge de freins, 1 cable, des rustines.
dans le poids annoncé, je ne compte pas l eau: 2 bidons sur le le cadre + 1 bidon (5 litres) sous la selle. ce dernier n est pas tjs rempli.
pour la nourriture, svt je prends 3 sachets de purée (c est la nourriturre hyophisé la moins cher que je connaisse) + 2 ou 3 petits dejeuners hyophilisés. cesz sachets sont des reserves au cas où; sinon je m approvisionne dans les villages au jour le jour
la pharmacie est légère et complete.
j ai aussi: un appereil photo, un gps, une moustiquaire 1 chargeur solaire et des cartes
Tous les chemins ne mènent pas à Rome
Merci pour vos différentes réponses, qui ne me rassurent pas forcément, est ce quelqu'un est déja parti avec un vélo ausi lourd?je me rens compte qu'une fois chargé je pèserais plus de kilos, la moindre cote va me paraitre une montagne...
Par les soirs bleus d'été j'irais par les sentiers...
Bonjour Jani.
Je n'ai pas d'experience au delà de 240Km à vélo en 5 jours, donc pas un vieux routard, mais il me semble que la meilleure réponse tu la trouveras en faisant un gallop d'essai sur un WE + ou - prolongé. Rien ne vaut ses propres expériences et sensations. Et puis comme te le disait un autre vélociste: si ton amour de ce vélo est le + fort, les contraintes de poids et donc d'efforts supplémentaires passeront au second plan. C'est ce que je te souhaite en tt cas. Si non, la raison impose de voyager léger: "Les fénéants" sont une mine d'intelligence!
bonjour compatriote maugeois!
je suis allée en irlande avec un vieux VTT de 17 kg (sans les sacoches) à peu près, ça l'a fait! mais un tour de monde est prévu, donc j'en ai acheté un autre un peu plus léger et confortable
si tu te sens bien sur ton vélo, pourquoi pas le garder! il faut voir avec le poids des sacoches, et ton rythme de croisière!
"Et parfois il me prend des mouvements soudains
De fuir dans un désert l'approche des humains"
Molière
Salut Jani, avec mon expérience perso je peux te dire que le poids du vélo n'est pas un handicap suivant ta façon de voyager.
Le plus important c'est surtout d'être très bien installer et d'avoir les développements qui te permettent de passer partout malgré le poids. Pour ma part j'ai une randonneuse faite sur mesure et qui pèse à vide + antivol(1, 5kg) de 19kg et je te raconte pas avec les bagages! Si j'ajoute le bonhomme +100kg je te laisse imaginer. Ca ne m'empêche pas de me taper 80 à 100km et + par jour sans m'épuiser outre mesure.
Alors si ton vélo te convient n'hésite plus vas-y! Et quand tu seras de retour tu seras le premier à savoir si c'était le bon choix ou non.
Bon voyage!
Le plus important c'est surtout d'être très bien installer et d'avoir les développements qui te permettent de passer partout malgré le poids. Pour ma part j'ai une randonneuse faite sur mesure et qui pèse à vide + antivol(1, 5kg) de 19kg et je te raconte pas avec les bagages! Si j'ajoute le bonhomme +100kg je te laisse imaginer. Ca ne m'empêche pas de me taper 80 à 100km et + par jour sans m'épuiser outre mesure.
Alors si ton vélo te convient n'hésite plus vas-y! Et quand tu seras de retour tu seras le premier à savoir si c'était le bon choix ou non.
Bon voyage!
"On ne va jamais aussi loin que lorsque l'on ne sait où l'on va"
Une année lors du festival du CCI j'ai rencontré un type qui a traversé le désert avec un vélo de se conception. le but était de rouler en parfaite autonomie, il avait 180 kg au total dont plus de 110 d'eau !!!!! C'étai un vélo a trois roues et le gars a fait son trip a l'age de 50 ans !!!
hello,
24 kg, pas de probleme!!! le mien fait 23 kg tout nu(porte bagage compris). on y ajoute 20 kg de matos, + eau et bouffe. c'est un vieux velo, mais je l'aime, j'y ai juste mis un systeme de derayeur (de recup!!) avant de partir. ca ne nous a pas empeche d'arriver jusqu'en thailande, la moitier du voyage.
bref vas-y, trop de gens compte les grammes sur leur velos, c'est un style, mais pas le seul. moi, je prefere ne pas mettre d'argent pour mon velo (a part les reparations) et partir plus longtemps, donc plus loin!!!
et puis, ca fait les mollets!!!
fabj
24 kg, pas de probleme!!! le mien fait 23 kg tout nu(porte bagage compris). on y ajoute 20 kg de matos, + eau et bouffe. c'est un vieux velo, mais je l'aime, j'y ai juste mis un systeme de derayeur (de recup!!) avant de partir. ca ne nous a pas empeche d'arriver jusqu'en thailande, la moitier du voyage.
bref vas-y, trop de gens compte les grammes sur leur velos, c'est un style, mais pas le seul. moi, je prefere ne pas mettre d'argent pour mon velo (a part les reparations) et partir plus longtemps, donc plus loin!!!
et puis, ca fait les mollets!!!
fabj
!!!p'a'delante, p'a'riba, siempre!!!
Merci à tous pour vos différents témoignages, l'essentiel étant pour moi de prendre le temps, je suis un peu plus rassuré et vos réponses me confortent dans l'idée que oui c'est possible, mème avec une vieille machine lourde de surcroit, et puis quand on a envie...tout est possible, je vous resolliciterais ultérieurement pour d'autres conseils(types de pneus, dérailleur ect...), le'idée étant de partir d'Angers et de se laisser un mois et demi pour rejoindre les pays de l'Est par exemple, merci encore!!
Par les soirs bleus d'été j'irais par les sentiers...
Une année lors du festival du CCI j'ai rencontré un type qui a traversé le désert avec un vélo de se conception. le but était de rouler en parfaite autonomie, il avait 180 kg au total dont plus de 110 d'eau !!!!! C'étai un vélo a trois roues et le gars a fait son trip a l'age de 50 ans !!!
c'est Jean Naud
c'est Jean Naud

Merci Azero ! T'as assuré ! J'avais peur que l'on me prenne pour un déb !!! J'ai ce livre là également (rangé je ne sais où !) mais pour ma part lorsque je l'ai lu, j'ai bien senti son âge en le lisant ... si tu vois ce que je veux dire !! En même temps le gars apporte des infos techniques qui sont royales pour ceux qui sont fana. Perso je trouve l'expérience unique !!!
Re-salut !! Oui je crois que c'est bien des pneus de citroen, mais je penche plus pour des pneus Michelin car le bonhomme travaillait dans l'usine Auvergnate comme ingénieur-chercheur... On pouvait voir son engin au musée des sports pas loin du Parc des Princes; malheureusement je n'ai jamais eu l'occasion ou l'idée (plutôt) d'y aller ...
Il avait fait ses essais à Emmeronville à la "mer de sable". Et c'est vrai que lorsque tu te penches sur son projet fallait avoir une sacrée motivation. Un peu de vent et une pente à 0.5% ça décourage déjà certains alors le sable !
J'ai fait mes premiers 10 000 km de cyclocamping sur un vieux vélo Peugeot "randonneur" comme on disait à l'époque, avec des pneus de 650 demi ballon (de facteur, quoi....), un poids de 17 kg à vide, des garde-boue en vrai tôle..; J'ai juste fait poser un triple plateau (30-40-50) au lieu du double 52/42 standard de ce temps, et une roue libre à 5 pignons au lieu des 4 d'origine. Le plus petit braquet : 30/28. Les Alpes et les Pyrénées avec les sacoches, le "Parpaillon" cyclo-muletier y compris sans casse ni du vélo ni du bonhomme. Alors vas-y ! C'est l'envie qui compte. Et les cuisses suivront.
Je roule encore dessus pour faire les mauvais chemins en forêt autour de chez moi, toujours avec des pneus demi ballons gonflés à 5 bars et une bande anti crevaison dedans. Je n'ai changé que les consommables depuis (pneus, patins, cables...).
J'ai un hybride Giant de près de 16 Kg maintenant, mais 9 pignons derrière vu mon âge (26/32, c'est un peu plus souple quand même dans les pentes de plus de 14 %....).
Je roule encore dessus pour faire les mauvais chemins en forêt autour de chez moi, toujours avec des pneus demi ballons gonflés à 5 bars et une bande anti crevaison dedans. Je n'ai changé que les consommables depuis (pneus, patins, cables...).
J'ai un hybride Giant de près de 16 Kg maintenant, mais 9 pignons derrière vu mon âge (26/32, c'est un peu plus souple quand même dans les pentes de plus de 14 %....).
J'ai un hybride Giant de près de 16 Kg maintenant, mais 9 pignons derrière vu mon âge (26/32, c'est un peu plus souple quand même dans les pentes de plus de 14 %....).
Heu ton âge c'est 26 ou 32 ......🙂
Luc demi siècle tout frais ....
Heu ton âge c'est 26 ou 32 ......🙂
Luc demi siècle tout frais ....
vu mon âge (26/32, c'est un peu plus souple
C'est bon, tu as encore de la marge: quand tu auras 100 ans, tu pourras mettre du 22/32 .😉
En tout cas ça me rappelle de bons souvenirs: mon premier VRAI vélo NEUF: un randonneur avec pneus de 650 demi ballon, 4 vitesses, gardes boue en alu. J'y ai rajouté par la suite un double plateau 52 X 42 par contre je n'ai jamais connu son poids car cela ne m'était pas venu à l'idée de le peser. Il me semble que sa marque c'était MERCIER.
C'est bon, tu as encore de la marge: quand tu auras 100 ans, tu pourras mettre du 22/32 .😉
En tout cas ça me rappelle de bons souvenirs: mon premier VRAI vélo NEUF: un randonneur avec pneus de 650 demi ballon, 4 vitesses, gardes boue en alu. J'y ai rajouté par la suite un double plateau 52 X 42 par contre je n'ai jamais connu son poids car cela ne m'était pas venu à l'idée de le peser. Il me semble que sa marque c'était MERCIER.
« T'en va le Chburz à vélo qu'à la fin il se casse.»
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Salut Jani, je crois que le plus important est le désir de partir...la force dans la tête, le reste ma foi...suivra ! Je me souviens avoir rencontré en Finlande au niveau du cercle polaire, un cyclo hollandais avec son antique bicyclette hollandaise, 3 vitesses (pas un modèle de légèreté...) mais il avait déjà parcouru des milliers de km avec !....il allait doucement mais sûrement.
Et puis au moins l'interet de ton vélo c'est qu'il est conçu pour les charges et au moins le porte bagage ne cédera pas ! Bonne route.
"Le vrai domicile de l'homme n'est pas une maison mais la route, et la vie elle-même est un voyage à faire à pied." Bruce Chatwin.
vu mon âge (26/32, c'est un peu plus souple
C'est bon, tu as encore de la marge: quand tu auras 100 ans, tu pourras mettre du 22/32 .😉
Pas sympa, Chburz ! Me rappeler qu'à cent ans je n'aurai plus que 22 dents sur les 32 réglementaires !
Hé oui ! nous avons normalement trente deux dents, y compris les dents de sagesse.... mais certains mauvais esprits, cependant observateurs, prétendent que certaines anglaises en ont trente dedans et deux dehors😎.
Bon, je sors avant que Jane Birkin ne me tombe dessus !
C'est bon, tu as encore de la marge: quand tu auras 100 ans, tu pourras mettre du 22/32 .😉
Pas sympa, Chburz ! Me rappeler qu'à cent ans je n'aurai plus que 22 dents sur les 32 réglementaires !
Hé oui ! nous avons normalement trente deux dents, y compris les dents de sagesse.... mais certains mauvais esprits, cependant observateurs, prétendent que certaines anglaises en ont trente dedans et deux dehors😎.
Bon, je sors avant que Jane Birkin ne me tombe dessus !
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Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
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I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
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I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
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So sad.
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hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hello,
Has anyone here had experience using a gas stove in Sardinia and Sicily? I’m wondering if screw-on gas canisters (not the blue Campingaz ones, but brands like Coleman, Primus, etc.) are easy to find.
Thanks for your feedback!
Thanks for your feedback!
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.


Can you take an electric bike on trains in Austria, Germany, and Switzerland?
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.