Prendre des photos?
by Wara
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salut à tous
Une réflexion légère sans se prendre la tête (hé ho je reviens de vacances!!). J'ai rencontré il y a peu en hongrie une fille qui voyageait autour du monde sans prendre une seule photo: "elles sont dans ma tête". Et j'ai aimé sa façon de voir. Il est vrai que moi non plus je n'en prends pas beaucoup en fait, plutôt des images insolites ou des plans qui me plaisent pour leur incongruité ou leur humour - je trouve que les monuments et autres superbes plans on les retrouve un peu partout... J'ai demandé à une amie de me montrer ses photos de ses 2 mois au sénégal, elle me détaille avec amour une centaine de photos de visages en gros plans, personnes croisées ou connues, et j'ai adoré son album d'un sénégal vivant. Il y a tant de manières de faire un album d'un voyage, que prenez-vous en photo? et qu'en faites-vous ensuite? Les miennes sont éparpillées au gré de mes humeurs au mileu de carnets de voyages remplis d'écrits, de tikets de bus et autres, de plantes ou de croquis..que je ressors certains soirs d'hiver pour me faire rêver. Que sont vos photos pour vous? surt aujourd'hui à l'heure du numérique où des milliers de photos se classent sur l'ordinateur... (ne suis pas du tout une adepte..je sais je sais tjs en retard sur la technologie..😛)
Wara
j'adore la photo, je rêve d'être une artiste en la matière (j'ai énormément de travail à faire), j'essaie souvent de capter une lumière, une sensation (un peu difficileà exprimer tout cela) avec un rendu plus ou moins heureux, j'adore photographier les enfants et les animaux, les paysages lorsqu'ils sont dorés par le soleil couchant, j'ai plus de mal avec les êtres humains adultes ne souhaitant pas les déranger ni leur voler leur image.
Je stocke mes photos et finalement les regarde peu, j'agrandi mes préférées et les affiche au bureau ou à la maison, j'en ai sur mon ordi et les regarde quand j'ai envie de m'évader au bureau, ...
Bien sûr, les plus belles images sont dans la tête.
Bien sûr, on ne couche pas les sensations et les ambiances sur du papier glacé.
Mais tout de même, figer les images, c'est se donner une opportunité de faire ressurgir plus tard les émotions.
J'adore faire des photos, des photos de tout et de tous, mitrailler au petit bonheur la chance. Parfois un des clichés s'avère "juste", il me raconte une histoire, cristalise une sensation... alors celui là je le garde, et je jette les autres.
Faire des photos n'est pas l'objectif de mon voyage. J'ai un tout petit appareil numérique que j'utilise sans me prendre la tête, à la volée. ça ne monopolise pas mon attention, je regarde, je sens, je vis avant tout. Au retour, je trie les photos, isole les plus parlantes, les plus belles. Je les fait tirer sur du vrai papier photo et fais des albums. Au cours des mois et des années, je me replonge dans mes albums. L'objet est important, j'achète de beaux albums, bien lourds, qui mettent en valeur les images. Et ensuite je les contemple comme un livre... Moi non plus je ne suis pas fan de la photo sur l'ordi. Ce que le numérique m'apporte par rapport à l'argentique, c'est la possibilité de trier, de faire des centaines de clichés et de prendre le temps ensuite de les examiner et de choisir ceux qui me parlent...
Et en même temps que j'écris ça, je me rend compte que les 4000 photos de mon petit tour du monde m'attendent sur CD depuis bientôt 1 an... Trop d'émotion encore pour les manipuler ? Besoin d'encore un peu de recul pour pouvoir les redécouvrir ?
Faire des photos n'est pas l'objectif de mon voyage. J'ai un tout petit appareil numérique que j'utilise sans me prendre la tête, à la volée. ça ne monopolise pas mon attention, je regarde, je sens, je vis avant tout. Au retour, je trie les photos, isole les plus parlantes, les plus belles. Je les fait tirer sur du vrai papier photo et fais des albums. Au cours des mois et des années, je me replonge dans mes albums. L'objet est important, j'achète de beaux albums, bien lourds, qui mettent en valeur les images. Et ensuite je les contemple comme un livre... Moi non plus je ne suis pas fan de la photo sur l'ordi. Ce que le numérique m'apporte par rapport à l'argentique, c'est la possibilité de trier, de faire des centaines de clichés et de prendre le temps ensuite de les examiner et de choisir ceux qui me parlent...
Et en même temps que j'écris ça, je me rend compte que les 4000 photos de mon petit tour du monde m'attendent sur CD depuis bientôt 1 an... Trop d'émotion encore pour les manipuler ? Besoin d'encore un peu de recul pour pouvoir les redécouvrir ?
Cyrille
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Plus de photos... Fini !
Je préfère écrire. Je suis un mauvais photographe. Par contre j'aime bien le bic et le papier. Lire ce que j'ai écrit, à chaud, à un auditoire concerné à plus d'un titre par le sujet, c'est du bonheur !
Relire pour moi-même ce que j'ai écrit il y a quelques temps, le relire même longtemps après, et les couleurs n'ont pas vieilli, ni les odeurs, ni l'air du temps, ni les sons, ni le vent, ni la lumière.
A+ Sam 🙂
Plus de photos... Fini !
Je préfère écrire. Je suis un mauvais photographe. Par contre j'aime bien le bic et le papier. Lire ce que j'ai écrit, à chaud, à un auditoire concerné à plus d'un titre par le sujet, c'est du bonheur !
Relire pour moi-même ce que j'ai écrit il y a quelques temps, le relire même longtemps après, et les couleurs n'ont pas vieilli, ni les odeurs, ni l'air du temps, ni les sons, ni le vent, ni la lumière.
A+ Sam 🙂
Salut,
Pour les gens en photo c'est rare, et seulement avec accord...ça me gêne, j'ose pas toujours non plus... ce serait plutôt les paysages, des animaux ... En fait ça ne fait pas longtemps que j'ai un bon appareil et meme avant quand j'en emmenais un dans mon sac, je n'avais pas le réflexe photo...aujourd'hui encore j'y pense pas toujours...Je rêve...J'en ai beaucoup aussi qui sont encore mélangées dans différents cartons! Mais c'est vrai qu'un album de belles photos par la suite c'est tellement sympa à regarder...
Pour les gens en photo c'est rare, et seulement avec accord...ça me gêne, j'ose pas toujours non plus... ce serait plutôt les paysages, des animaux ... En fait ça ne fait pas longtemps que j'ai un bon appareil et meme avant quand j'en emmenais un dans mon sac, je n'avais pas le réflexe photo...aujourd'hui encore j'y pense pas toujours...Je rêve...J'en ai beaucoup aussi qui sont encore mélangées dans différents cartons! Mais c'est vrai qu'un album de belles photos par la suite c'est tellement sympa à regarder...
Choucarde
J'en prends peu. Pas très doué, même si je m'améliore. Pareil je prends rarement de photos de gens, sauf pour leur envoyer (ce que je fais), ou alors de loin. Ce sont presque exclusivement des photos de paysages, je n'aime pas trop me balader avec l'appareil en main quand je suis en ville, du coup je ne le sors pas souvent
En fait ce que je préfère avec mon appareil, c'est prendre des petites séquences vidéos. Une vingtaine de secondes suffisent. Dans les transports par exemple, ou bien une pensée, un commentaire, ou simplement un 360° splendide. Puis au retour s'il y a suffisemment de séquences intéressantes, je fais un montage. J'y glisse quelques photos au passage, les moins ratées.
En fait ce que je préfère avec mon appareil, c'est prendre des petites séquences vidéos. Une vingtaine de secondes suffisent. Dans les transports par exemple, ou bien une pensée, un commentaire, ou simplement un 360° splendide. Puis au retour s'il y a suffisemment de séquences intéressantes, je fais un montage. J'y glisse quelques photos au passage, les moins ratées.
Salut Wara,
J'ai longtemps été un photophile, comme Gilda, prêt à trimballer un vieux boîtier mécanique et deux objectifs dans tous les coins où je mettais les pieds. Aujourd'hui, je ne prends plus de photos ou presque, je pars la plupart du temps en voyage sans appareil en tous cas. Comme pour la fille que tu évoques, les photos sont dans ma tête : j'aime toujours la photo, mais finalement pas assez pour reprendre l'appareil et reperdre la part de liberté que j'y ai gagné en l'abandonnant. Après je suis conscient que chacun réagit à sa façon, mais personnellement je me sens plus libre sans, j'ai l'impression que prendre certaines situations en photo ne me permettait pas d'en jouir pleinement en même temps. Maintenant, je fais comme Sam : un cahier, et un stylo. Ecrire, on le fait quand on est seul et posé, à froid, pas quand des amis nous entourent ou que des choses fascinantes se déroulent sous nos yeux...
A+
En fait j'ai cette impression que plus on voyage, moins les photos deviennent nécessaires... Comme si l'objectif de l'appareil empêchait de profiter vraiment de ce qu'on voit ou ressent. Ou bien on se rend compte que finalement on ne les regarde pas vraiment une fois rentrés? Pourtant combien j'aime les beaux portraits ou paysages, les albums de professionels ou de ceux qui savent capter l'instant. Mais je n'en ressens plus le besoin, comme si la photo mettait une distance entre moi et le "sujet"...
Je ne suis pas vraiment d'accord, et je ne trouve pas que la photo mette un distance entre le sujet et moi... Mais à chacun sa façon de faire !
Je ne fais pas des photos par nécessité, je sais que je pourrais me procurer des images bien plus pro des endroits que j'ai aimé. Mais, tout comme l'écriture, c'est une activité en soi. Et l'un n'empêche pas l'autre...
le désir de capter l'instant me semble légitime, et tout à fait conciliable avec le désir de vivre son voyage, de profiter des instants sans chercher à faire des cartes postales de chaque image qu'on grave dans sa tête.
c'est pour ça que je fais des photos sans y penser, c'est un peu automatique, et ça ne monopolise pas mon attention.
Et parfois, ce petit objectif acroit ma vision : en me concentrant sur la scène que j'ai photographiée, j'apperçois des détails qui m'avaient échappées en "live"...
Nous percevons tous le monde à travers nos différents sens, mais ils n'ont pas tous le même poids chez tout le monde. On peut être plutôt auditif, plutôt sensible aux odeurs, plutôt tactile... et c'est l'importance de la nature de nos perceptions dans la capacité à générer de l'émotion qui détermine comment on se souvient des moments qu'on a vécu.
Moi je suis une visuelle : mes souvenirs sont avant tout des images. Donc la capture d'images est importante, dans toutes mes activités.
Cyrille
Oui, je perçois bien que nous puissions être tous différents vis-à-vis du ressenti "prendre des photos ou pas". La preuve : je suis moi aussi très visuel, je ne me souviens quasiment que par les images (même pour l'écrit) ; donc (😛), c'est pour cette raison que je les capture directement dans ma tête, ainsi je m'en souviens et pas besoin de support matériel 🙂.
Penserais-je autrement si j'étais capable de prendre des photos sans y penser, comme toi ? Je ne sais pas, je crois que c'était le cas avant, mais ça a changé : alors, perte de la fibre photographique ou évolution à force de voyager comme le dit Wara ? Je pencherais plutôt pour la deuxième solution : je crois que la photo est devenue au fil du temps une quête vaine, probablement parce que je ne suis pas assez doué ou que ma perception a changé. Mais bon, tout ça est très personnel : encore une fois, je conçois que d'autres aient un ressenti à l'opposé, personne ne fait le même voyage que le voisin.
Penserais-je autrement si j'étais capable de prendre des photos sans y penser, comme toi ? Je ne sais pas, je crois que c'était le cas avant, mais ça a changé : alors, perte de la fibre photographique ou évolution à force de voyager comme le dit Wara ? Je pencherais plutôt pour la deuxième solution : je crois que la photo est devenue au fil du temps une quête vaine, probablement parce que je ne suis pas assez doué ou que ma perception a changé. Mais bon, tout ça est très personnel : encore une fois, je conçois que d'autres aient un ressenti à l'opposé, personne ne fait le même voyage que le voisin.
Faites attention les amis du numérique, sachez que le support ne tient pas dans le temps, vos souvenirs s'envoleront ainsi dans 1, 2, , 5 ou 10 ans.
Donc gaffe.
Filtoche
ça dépend du support. Si tu fais tirer tes numériques sur du papier photo chez un photographe, ça tient mieux quand même.
Et puis tu as toujours tes supports numériques (CD par exemple) pour stocker tes fichiers source.
Cyrille
Salut
Au fait reste-t-il encore quelques dinosaures comme moi à ne prendre que des photos argentiques?
Il est vrai que pour moi lors de la plupart de mes voyages le choix n'existait pas... de plus ma compagne de voyage préférée adore les albums 'papier'...
Michel
Au fait reste-t-il encore quelques dinosaures comme moi à ne prendre que des photos argentiques?
Il est vrai que pour moi lors de la plupart de mes voyages le choix n'existait pas... de plus ma compagne de voyage préférée adore les albums 'papier'...
Michel
"L'Angleterre est une île, c'est là son unique défaut." attribué à Napoléon
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Pesrsonellement je pense que c'est important de prendre des photos, surtout pour le futur. Au bout de plusieurs année, sans photos on oublie trop de choses. Et même avec les photos on oublie, alors je crois que c'est bien d'en prendre qques unes, rien que pour le bonheur de se replonger dans l'ambiance bien longteps apres.
En voyage, je mitraille, tres souvent, meme si les 3/4 sont a jeter, je trie ensuite. J'adore essayer de restituer une ambiance, tant bien que mal, c'est un art, et c'est passionnant.
La plupart des photos seront vraiment des photos souvenirs, plus ou moins réussies, généralement elles n'ont rien d'exceptionnel ésthétiquement, mais elles rapellent tant de souvenirs... Et puis, j'attends toujours de pouvoir les faire partager au retour du voyage, c'est extra.
Et sinon, le plus possible, j'essaie de faire de belles photos, des photos artistiques, en essayant de trouver un sujet intéressant. Le plus difficile est de trouver un sujet "qui parle pas lui meme", avoir une scène dans la photo, une histoire qui ressort sans avoir besoin de commentaires. Ensuite il faut reussir sa photo : cadrage, lumiere, angle, et ne pas laisser d'elements perturber le regard, celui ci doit etre orienté tout de suite vers LE sujet et y etre capturé. C'est tres difficile, on a tout le temps des rattages, mais il faut continuer pour s'améliorer et apprendre a voir plus rapidement ce qui derange dans le cadre, sous quel angle on doit prendre tel sujet, et repérer tout de suite les sujets interessants. C'est pour ca que je mitraille, je prend meme plusieurs fois une meme photo, sachant qu'une toute petite partie des photos seront a conserver. Mais meme les grands photographes ont 1000 photos de jetées pour 10 de bonnes !!!
Avec mon appareil a la main, je suis toujours a l'affut d'une scene a prendre, d'un bel eclairage, quand je me promene j'observe partout, je guete tous les recoins. Ensuite soumettrai mes photos aux gens d'un forum de photo "artistiques" sur Internet.
Je voudrais faire reference au membre qui a dit qu'il photographiait surtout les paysages. Je voulais preciser que ma facon de prendre les photos a changé il y a qques temps. Avant, comme lui, je prenait presque toujours les paysages, je voulais EVITER les gens, supprimer toute personne du cadre.
Maintenant, c'est l'inverse, je recherche les gens, le plus possible, et meme les gros plans. J'essaie de capturer l'instant, les gens au naturel, des scenes banales, quelque un qui marche dans la rue par ex. J'essaie aussi de capturer le mouvement. il peut y avoir des photos ou on ne voit pas la personne en entier, tete coupée, mais on ressent l'ambiance, le mouvement, la scene est suggerée. Par exemple, il faut a tout pris eviter de centrer le sujet, car la photo en sera plate (bien sur, on peut centrer le sujet dans certains cas, ca depend aussi de ce qu'on recherche).
A tous ceux qui prennent les paysages (ce qui est tres interessant aussi, simplement un autre type de photo), je recomande d'essayer de photographier aussi les gens. Bien sur, pas facile de prendre les gens " a la volée", car il faut les respecter et respecter le droit a l'image. Quand j'ai des photos avec des gens de trop pres je ne les duffuse pas sans leur accord.
Mais c'est bien plus interessant a realiser, plus dur aussi. (a mon avis). Mais comment rendre une photo vivante et qui restitue une histoire sans un etre vivant dedans ? C'est possible mais il faut etre un pro. Et un homme dans une photo attire toujours le regard tout de suite, c'est plus vivant. Et pourquoi les eviter alors qu'ils font partie de l'ambiance, de l'instant. Par ailleurs, on peut TOUT photographier. L'objet, le sujet le plus anodin peut etre magnifique et raconter toute une histoire, si la photo est travaillée. J'ai decouvert recemment Edward Waston (les gens calé en photo doivent connaitre). Il arrive a rendre un POIVRON magnifique et tres, tres sexy !! Alors tout est possible... Ne pas se cantonner aux photos de la plage ou au mec qui pose au centre de la photo.
Par ailleurs, pour repondre a l'un des themes abordés, je suis d'accord avec le fait que l'objectif met une certaine distance avec ce que l'on vit. Je veux dire, aussi passionant soit-il de prendre des photos, on ne vit pas vraiment la scene directement, on n'est pas present a 100 %, on a une visoin globale, on observe, et on vit le moment a travers l'objectif, ce qui lui fait perdre quelque chose, un peu de naturel peut etre. L'appareil photo est une contrainte, il faut s'y concentrer, on profite dont moins de l'instant, a mon avis.
Alors, de temps en temps, c'est bon d'aller marcher sans appareil photo, les mains dans les poches, on savoure la liberté d'etre la simplement, c'est tout. Et apres, on aura a nouveau plaisir a reprendre la machine a photos en main...
Merci a Wara pour cette discussion.
Ciao tout le monde !!!!!
En voyage, je mitraille, tres souvent, meme si les 3/4 sont a jeter, je trie ensuite. J'adore essayer de restituer une ambiance, tant bien que mal, c'est un art, et c'est passionnant.
La plupart des photos seront vraiment des photos souvenirs, plus ou moins réussies, généralement elles n'ont rien d'exceptionnel ésthétiquement, mais elles rapellent tant de souvenirs... Et puis, j'attends toujours de pouvoir les faire partager au retour du voyage, c'est extra.
Et sinon, le plus possible, j'essaie de faire de belles photos, des photos artistiques, en essayant de trouver un sujet intéressant. Le plus difficile est de trouver un sujet "qui parle pas lui meme", avoir une scène dans la photo, une histoire qui ressort sans avoir besoin de commentaires. Ensuite il faut reussir sa photo : cadrage, lumiere, angle, et ne pas laisser d'elements perturber le regard, celui ci doit etre orienté tout de suite vers LE sujet et y etre capturé. C'est tres difficile, on a tout le temps des rattages, mais il faut continuer pour s'améliorer et apprendre a voir plus rapidement ce qui derange dans le cadre, sous quel angle on doit prendre tel sujet, et repérer tout de suite les sujets interessants. C'est pour ca que je mitraille, je prend meme plusieurs fois une meme photo, sachant qu'une toute petite partie des photos seront a conserver. Mais meme les grands photographes ont 1000 photos de jetées pour 10 de bonnes !!!
Avec mon appareil a la main, je suis toujours a l'affut d'une scene a prendre, d'un bel eclairage, quand je me promene j'observe partout, je guete tous les recoins. Ensuite soumettrai mes photos aux gens d'un forum de photo "artistiques" sur Internet.
Je voudrais faire reference au membre qui a dit qu'il photographiait surtout les paysages. Je voulais preciser que ma facon de prendre les photos a changé il y a qques temps. Avant, comme lui, je prenait presque toujours les paysages, je voulais EVITER les gens, supprimer toute personne du cadre.
Maintenant, c'est l'inverse, je recherche les gens, le plus possible, et meme les gros plans. J'essaie de capturer l'instant, les gens au naturel, des scenes banales, quelque un qui marche dans la rue par ex. J'essaie aussi de capturer le mouvement. il peut y avoir des photos ou on ne voit pas la personne en entier, tete coupée, mais on ressent l'ambiance, le mouvement, la scene est suggerée. Par exemple, il faut a tout pris eviter de centrer le sujet, car la photo en sera plate (bien sur, on peut centrer le sujet dans certains cas, ca depend aussi de ce qu'on recherche).
A tous ceux qui prennent les paysages (ce qui est tres interessant aussi, simplement un autre type de photo), je recomande d'essayer de photographier aussi les gens. Bien sur, pas facile de prendre les gens " a la volée", car il faut les respecter et respecter le droit a l'image. Quand j'ai des photos avec des gens de trop pres je ne les duffuse pas sans leur accord.
Mais c'est bien plus interessant a realiser, plus dur aussi. (a mon avis). Mais comment rendre une photo vivante et qui restitue une histoire sans un etre vivant dedans ? C'est possible mais il faut etre un pro. Et un homme dans une photo attire toujours le regard tout de suite, c'est plus vivant. Et pourquoi les eviter alors qu'ils font partie de l'ambiance, de l'instant. Par ailleurs, on peut TOUT photographier. L'objet, le sujet le plus anodin peut etre magnifique et raconter toute une histoire, si la photo est travaillée. J'ai decouvert recemment Edward Waston (les gens calé en photo doivent connaitre). Il arrive a rendre un POIVRON magnifique et tres, tres sexy !! Alors tout est possible... Ne pas se cantonner aux photos de la plage ou au mec qui pose au centre de la photo.
Par ailleurs, pour repondre a l'un des themes abordés, je suis d'accord avec le fait que l'objectif met une certaine distance avec ce que l'on vit. Je veux dire, aussi passionant soit-il de prendre des photos, on ne vit pas vraiment la scene directement, on n'est pas present a 100 %, on a une visoin globale, on observe, et on vit le moment a travers l'objectif, ce qui lui fait perdre quelque chose, un peu de naturel peut etre. L'appareil photo est une contrainte, il faut s'y concentrer, on profite dont moins de l'instant, a mon avis.
Alors, de temps en temps, c'est bon d'aller marcher sans appareil photo, les mains dans les poches, on savoure la liberté d'etre la simplement, c'est tout. Et apres, on aura a nouveau plaisir a reprendre la machine a photos en main...
Merci a Wara pour cette discussion.
Ciao tout le monde !!!!!
"Le plus beau voyage, c'est celui qu'on n'a pas encore fait."
(Loick Peyron)
Au fait reste-t-il encore quelques dinosaures comme moi à ne prendre que des photos argentiques?
Oui, et même sur VF ! Je continue à utiliser majoritairement la diapo en voyage même si j'ai depuis deux ans opté pour le duo "numérique-argentique", le numérique étant plutôt utilisé pour les scènes qui "bougent" (fêtes, défilés, mariages, sport, ...) et l'argentique pour les portraits statiques et les paysages ou monuments. Je n'imaginerais pas partir en vacances sans l'intégralité de mon équipement photo (en général deux boitiers reflex, trois objectifs, un flash, un mini trépied et une cellule photoélectrique = 6 à 7 kilos !) mais il m'arrive assez souvent de laisser les boitiers au fond du sac et de regarder avec amusement les autres touristes mitrailler tout ce qui bouge à moins de cinq mètres d'eux, sans souci de cadrage ou de composition. La photo de voyage, pour moi, ce n'est surtout pas de refaire à l'identique ce que l'on trouvera dans toutes les bonnes librairies au retour (...et le développement du tourisme s'accompagne de plus en plus de livres de voyage où les photos sont pitoyablement médiocres ), ni immortaliser narcissiquement sa propre présence dans tous les coins du monde (dérisoire !) mais seulement capter des moments très forts de son voyage pour pouvoir les garder en mémoire au fil des ans. Lorsque je sors le boitier du sac c'est parce que je pense qu'il y a une opportunité de faire une bonne photo (peut-être pas plus d'une !) et que, celle-là, je n'ai pas le droit de la rater...
En quelque sorte un échantillonnage très personnel d'impressions de voyage, mais surtout pas un catalogue exhaustif et ennuyeux de mon parcours. Je l'ai déjà dit lors d'une précédente discussion, l'argentique m'aide à me limiter en quantité donc à soigner la qualité (même si j'ai encore beaucoup de travail pour ne faire que de l'excellente photo). Le tri draconien des photos numériques au retour (ou même chaque soir de vacances) fait le reste... De cette manière, à l'issue de chaque voyage, seules environ cinquante photos échappent au massacre et leur nombre réduit fait que j'ai toujours autant de plaisir à les regarder de temps en temps.
Oui, et même sur VF ! Je continue à utiliser majoritairement la diapo en voyage même si j'ai depuis deux ans opté pour le duo "numérique-argentique", le numérique étant plutôt utilisé pour les scènes qui "bougent" (fêtes, défilés, mariages, sport, ...) et l'argentique pour les portraits statiques et les paysages ou monuments. Je n'imaginerais pas partir en vacances sans l'intégralité de mon équipement photo (en général deux boitiers reflex, trois objectifs, un flash, un mini trépied et une cellule photoélectrique = 6 à 7 kilos !) mais il m'arrive assez souvent de laisser les boitiers au fond du sac et de regarder avec amusement les autres touristes mitrailler tout ce qui bouge à moins de cinq mètres d'eux, sans souci de cadrage ou de composition. La photo de voyage, pour moi, ce n'est surtout pas de refaire à l'identique ce que l'on trouvera dans toutes les bonnes librairies au retour (...et le développement du tourisme s'accompagne de plus en plus de livres de voyage où les photos sont pitoyablement médiocres ), ni immortaliser narcissiquement sa propre présence dans tous les coins du monde (dérisoire !) mais seulement capter des moments très forts de son voyage pour pouvoir les garder en mémoire au fil des ans. Lorsque je sors le boitier du sac c'est parce que je pense qu'il y a une opportunité de faire une bonne photo (peut-être pas plus d'une !) et que, celle-là, je n'ai pas le droit de la rater...
En quelque sorte un échantillonnage très personnel d'impressions de voyage, mais surtout pas un catalogue exhaustif et ennuyeux de mon parcours. Je l'ai déjà dit lors d'une précédente discussion, l'argentique m'aide à me limiter en quantité donc à soigner la qualité (même si j'ai encore beaucoup de travail pour ne faire que de l'excellente photo). Le tri draconien des photos numériques au retour (ou même chaque soir de vacances) fait le reste... De cette manière, à l'issue de chaque voyage, seules environ cinquante photos échappent au massacre et leur nombre réduit fait que j'ai toujours autant de plaisir à les regarder de temps en temps.
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Entièrement d'accord pour ce qui est de la nécessité... et du bien-fondé de 'se limiter' en argentique. Et le tri est plus rapide... 50 photos correctes, c'est une bonne moyenne.
"L'Angleterre est une île, c'est là son unique défaut." attribué à Napoléon
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50 photos correctes, c'est une bonne moyenne.
C'est surtout la limite au delà de laquelle on fatigue très vite son auditoire, même bienveillant ! Un film au cinéma, c'est 1h40 ou 1h50. Quand c'est mauvais, on arrive à le supporter (et si le metteur en scène est un copain, on arrive même à lui pardonner !) ... mais quand ça dure trois plombes, il faut que ce soit un grand chef d'oeuvre, sinon on sort de la salle avant la fin ! Pour les photos de vacances, c'est un peu pareil... donc la sélection d'un maximum de 50 prises de vues offertes aux amis reste un excellent chiffre, à mi-distance entre la qualité (vos 5 meilleures photos de l'année, légèrement recadrées si nécessaire, tirage soigné et en grand format) et le somnifère photographique (200 à 500 photos collées en vrac dans un album ou alignées en un diaporama d'une heure ou plus sur ordinateur.. mais si, ça existe, j'ai déjà vu ça !) 😉
Revenons à l'objet du débat : Photographier ou non en voyage ? Ma réponse est donc "OUI ABSOLUMENT, mais avec modération !"
C'est surtout la limite au delà de laquelle on fatigue très vite son auditoire, même bienveillant ! Un film au cinéma, c'est 1h40 ou 1h50. Quand c'est mauvais, on arrive à le supporter (et si le metteur en scène est un copain, on arrive même à lui pardonner !) ... mais quand ça dure trois plombes, il faut que ce soit un grand chef d'oeuvre, sinon on sort de la salle avant la fin ! Pour les photos de vacances, c'est un peu pareil... donc la sélection d'un maximum de 50 prises de vues offertes aux amis reste un excellent chiffre, à mi-distance entre la qualité (vos 5 meilleures photos de l'année, légèrement recadrées si nécessaire, tirage soigné et en grand format) et le somnifère photographique (200 à 500 photos collées en vrac dans un album ou alignées en un diaporama d'une heure ou plus sur ordinateur.. mais si, ça existe, j'ai déjà vu ça !) 😉
Revenons à l'objet du débat : Photographier ou non en voyage ? Ma réponse est donc "OUI ABSOLUMENT, mais avec modération !"
Site photo : https://www.flickr.com/photos/27857697@N05/
Moi je prends des photos car je n'ai pas de mémoire 😛
C'est vrai en plus, combien de fois il m'arrive de revoir des photos et de me dire: mais c'est où ça déjà?
Avant ma période internet, j'ai stocké une montagne de photos papier sans légendes, car j'ai la flemme, mais du coup quand je les sors ça me fait ressurgir des souvenirs qui n'étaient justement... "plus dans ma tête" !
Et vu le résultat, tu as vraiment raison d'en prendre des photos ! Surtout, continue !
Cyrille
Bon, si j'ai la permission 🙂 merci !
Ce n'est pas une permission, c'est une prière !
ça fait plaisir d'avoir des fans ?😉
Cyrille
Oulala si je considère que la photo est quand même un élement important du voyage et du souvenir qu'on en a, je me refuse de partir avec la pression du genre "faut pas que je loupe mes photos, faut pas que je loupe mes photos"... mais à force tu vas y arriver 🙂
salut citoyen! je viens de me plonger dans tes photos de bolivie - mon pays de coeur - et j'ai coulé direct dans le salar de mes souvenirs, je crois même que tes photos sont encore plus belles que ma mémoire... c'est en partie pour cette raison que j'ai posé cette question car j'ai cet amour de la belle photo (rarement les miennes..) mais je ne ressens vraiment que rarement le besoin de les prendre moi-même.
merci pour les tiennes!
wara
Pour ma part, je m'étais régalée de vos photos et récit de voyage en Mongolie, du coup, j'avais tout visité votre album photo . Et là ! Merveille à nouveau !
Merci, mille fois pour le plaisir que vous nous offrez .
Merci, mille fois pour le plaisir que vous nous offrez .
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Je m'inscris au tableau des dinosaures qui travaillent encore a l'argentique!
En fait depuis peu je fonctionne avec deux appareils. Mon bon vieux reflex argentique monte en diapo pour faire des "photos" et un petit numerique de poche pour prendre des "images".
Je reste malgre tout tres attachee a l'argentique.... peut etre tout simplement accro a la lumiere rouge et au revelateur! Le numerique ne m'offre pas autant de plaisir, meme si le cote tres pratique est attrayant. Parce qu'une belle photo reflete aussi le plaisir de celui qui la saisie.
Numerique ou argentique, a chacun sa maniere de se faire plaisir derriere le viseur!!
Numerique ou argentique, a chacun sa maniere de se faire plaisir derriere le viseur!!
"Quand quelqu'un bouge, les immobiles disent qu'il fuit." J. Brel
salut Wara !
Oulala mon intervention dans ce message ne visait pas à recevoir des compliments 😊 mais bien pour dire que pour moi la photo de voyage entretient le souvenir + que tout !
Mais bon merci beaucoup ça fait toujours plaisir 🙂
Les photos en voyage ?
Très important pour moi, elles me permettent de revivre le voyage : les paysages, les rencontres, de faire partager à mes amis, de garder des contacts avec des gens rencontrés en leur envoyant des clichés pris ensemble ... la photo ne doit pas prendre le dessus sur le voyage, mais elle en fait quand meme grandement partie ...
Et de plus en y rajoutant le journal de bord, cela fait chaque fois un " book de voyage", pour les autres et surtout pour moi-meme ...
Les voyages je les vis avant quand je prépare un trip, pendant par la découverte, le bonheur, l'inconu, les joies, les galères, les rencontres, aprés en montant l'album et bien aprés encore en m'évadant à nouveau assis dans le canapé du salon ....
chris06
N'ayant aucune mémoire visuelle, je prends en moyenne 300 photos par jour quand je suis en voyage. D'ailleurs, j'en mets plein sur le forum.
La photo c'est chouette dans la mesure où ça me permet de: me souvenir de ce que j'ai vu (pour moi c'est vital) montrer ce que j'ai vu à ceux que ça intéresse avoir le plaisir de donner une belle représentation du monde
La photo c'est chouette dans la mesure où ça me permet de: me souvenir de ce que j'ai vu (pour moi c'est vital) montrer ce que j'ai vu à ceux que ça intéresse avoir le plaisir de donner une belle représentation du monde
Si tu ouvres tes yeux d'enfant, le voyage commence au seuil de ta maison
Waouw!!! tu m'impressionnes!!! voyons...si je calcule vite fait 300 par jour, sur un voyage de 15 jours tu stockes 4500 photos!!! entre tes prises tu as encore le temps de discuter avec les gens??😛
Comment tu les gardes ensuite? sur l'ordi? je suppose que tu fais un tri. Je n'arrive pas à regarder mes photos sur l'écran, j'ai besoin de toucher le papier...
merci d'avoir répondu!
Lors de mes 2 derniers voyages en Inde, ce fut 6.000 en 12 jours et 10.000 en 45 jours.
Lors d'un week-end en Espagne cet hiver, j'en ai pris 900 en 4 jours.
Pendant un spectacle, je peux en faire 100 à 200 à l'heure.
Evidemment que je parle avec les gens, surtout avec les Indiens du Sud qui sont adorables et réclament qu'on les prenne en photo.
Je les stocke sur des DVD et des disques durs de poche. J'en laisse pas mal dans l'ordinateur pour y avoir accès plus facilement. Evidemment, je détruis les ratées (environ 10%).
J'imprime les plus belles (environ 10%) en format A4 quand j'ai l'encre et le temps. Il est vrai que c'est plus beau et impressionnant. Les regarder sur l'écran ne me dérange pas du tout. Je mets mon album en écran de veille, et je les vois régulièrement défiler de façon aléatoire dès que mon ordinateur se met en veille...
Evidemment que je parle avec les gens, surtout avec les Indiens du Sud qui sont adorables et réclament qu'on les prenne en photo.
Je les stocke sur des DVD et des disques durs de poche. J'en laisse pas mal dans l'ordinateur pour y avoir accès plus facilement. Evidemment, je détruis les ratées (environ 10%).
J'imprime les plus belles (environ 10%) en format A4 quand j'ai l'encre et le temps. Il est vrai que c'est plus beau et impressionnant. Les regarder sur l'écran ne me dérange pas du tout. Je mets mon album en écran de veille, et je les vois régulièrement défiler de façon aléatoire dès que mon ordinateur se met en veille...
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hello to all travelers with their eyes wide open to the desert...
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
I’ve always wondered what I was "doing" on this earth. And why my father, who died a few months after I was born—a former youngest French resistance fighter—joined the First Saharan Motorized Company in Atar and spent the rest of his life repairing army engines in Algeria, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali (which didn’t exist under that name back then), Morocco, and finally Algeria, where my mother was born and raised. (Believe me, it’s not "cool" being the child of a soldier in a country occupied by France, and even less so the child of a "pied-noir.") Of course, I never got an answer: the dead don’t talk, and the army doesn’t either. But here’s the thing—I had photos... So naturally, one day I hit the road. I wanted to see, to understand. It’s thanks to VF that I was able to do a little research on crossing the Morocco-Mauritania border, and I’m grateful to its members, just as I’m grateful to all those who welcomed me on the road for 14 years. For the past few weeks, I’ve been wondering if I should talk about this or not... It turns out the Mauritanians changed my life by asking for my help... And that started as early as February 2012... (Did I owe them something? No answer to that question.) Ah, the irony—they saw me coming. But when you’re handed sick children and begged to do something, what would you have done? I’d worked in a hospital, so I knew a bit about the rules to follow. I didn’t hesitate. And well, over all these years, I met doctors, surgeons, and together we organized care, evacuations of children, training for surgeons—even trying to stop children from having to travel outside their country. It was never easy. I’d like to thank those who supported us, as well as *La Chaîne de l’Espoir*, *La Fondation Face au Monde*, and everyone who built bridges between our two countries. Unfortunately, despite the constant efforts of Mauritanian doctors and surgeons, some children couldn’t be helped in time. Today, I want to talk about four siblings—orphans of their mother—suffering from congenital glaucoma causing irreversible blindness. Their case was entrusted to me in 2020, just weeks before the big lockdown. We couldn’t do anything for them then, but when their father asked me for a gift, I rushed to my computer and wrote a story. Through a tale, the children take a great journey, explore their country, and fulfill a dream. I never thought this book would be published—it was, in 2023. This book pays tribute to Mauritania. It’s a message for those who know nothing about the hardships of life there, carrying both the harshness and beauty of an immense desert where you can travel by 4x4, bike, on foot, or by camel in complete safety. It bears witness to the kindness of Mauritanians toward travelers. As a woman traveling alone in my vehicle—a now-rusted old Mercedes that no longer runs—I had the most beautiful encounters of my life there (I’ve seen other parts of the world...). The blind children of Choum, Atar, Nouadhibou, and Nouakchott will forever be in my heart. Volunteer readers transcribed the book into a free audio version for the visually impaired. It’s available in sound libraries in France, the *Fondation Valentin Haüy*, and the Swiss Romande library. I made my last trip to Mauritania in my old 4x4 to distribute the book everywhere, especially to its heroes and the school for the visually impaired in Nouakchott. After that, I thought it was time to close the chapter because I no longer have the means or the strength to travel. My publishers chose this title for it: *The Blue Eyes of the Desert*. This publication helped a mission of Swiss volunteer ophthalmologists come to operate on glaucomas in Mauritania. I’m thrilled because they come back every year! This adventure is ending, yes—everything must come to an end—but ultimately, it was born here, on the VF site!! So yes, I had to say it: THANK YOU!!!!!
Hi everyone,
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Who’d like to share their best and worst travel memories in a few lines? For me, it’s watching the TAJ MAHAL at sunrise and getting chased by dogs at the top of a mountain pass in GREECE on the way back from ISTANBUL. THANKS GUYS
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi! It was totally by chance that I stumbled upon VoyageForum (an ad online and a story lol), and I’ve been reading some really old posts from 2011 about Thai massage schools—discussions on how to get by, accommodation, prices, etc. It reminded me of my own experience: I kept things simple by staying with a local family during my entire trip. I only shared all the expenses with them, which, I’ll admit, was super cheap… and I often traveled with them, which naturally opened a lot of doors for me. To start, at the school in Salaya, my Thai friend immediately connected me with Teacher Phong (the school’s mentor and teacher of teachers, a former monk). I was supposed to join a group session with other foreigners, but for some reason I don’t know, I got two days of private lessons for free with this expert… incredible! And on top of that, he loved France! It was an amazing experience. I "discovered" massage by chance—the Thai family just told me: "Try it, you’ll see!" (I’d had a pretty intense massage in the capital before 😅… but the next day, I felt unbelievably great!))
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?