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Quel vélo de cyclocamping choisir pour environ 800 euros?
by Malokoxice
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous!
Je compte partir dans quelque temps avec un ami pendant un peu plus de 6 mois autour de l'europe, voire un peu plus. Se pose donc le problème du choix du vélo.
J'aimerais trouver un vélo équipé (portes bagages) pour un budget d'environ 800 euros. Je ne veux pas de VTT! Pouvez vous me renseigner sur les choix possibles, et me donner vos avis? Même si se n'est qu'en europe j'aimerais un velo robuste!
J'ai trouvé ces modèles: - Intec R-T-RO4 Deore http://www.meilenweit.net/shop/product_info.php?products_id=99553
- Fahrrad T400 Deore 24-Gang http://www.fahrradmanufaktur.de/T400_Deore_24Gang_167.html (pas de porte bagage avant...)
- Raleigh Magelan 400 LX http://www.lucky-bike.de/.cms/Raleigh_Magelan_400_LX/19-1-843
- Gitane vision http://www.gitane.com/fr/VTC/Vision, 101.html
Que pensez vous de ces velos et quels sont les autres choix possibles dans cette gamme?
Merci d'avance!
Robin
PS: désolé si la discution existe déja, je n'ai pas trouvé dans le forum!
PS: désolé si la discution existe déja, je n'ai pas trouvé dans le forum!
2pairesderoues.blogspot.fr
Je ne connais pas les 4 vélos que tu cites, mais un, le Fahrrad T 400 pour l'avoir essayé en Allemagne.
cadre en acier, éléments robuste, marque de qualité,
Je le considère comme un excellent produit, juste rajouter des freins Magura, une selle brooks et un tubus à l'avant!!!
Le vélo parfait ... de mon point de vu!
bon shopping
bon shopping
Pédaler ça aéré les Neurones !!!!! (citation de Michel)
PS: désolé si la discution existe déja, je n'ai pas trouvé dans le forum!
Bonjour. Tu as effectivement pas mal de sujets à propos du Fahrrad T400, et aussi (un peu moins) sur le Intec R-T-RO4. Le Raleigh est pas trop mal équipé, c'est juste le 48-36-26 qui me parait un peu gros. Le Gitane...pas beaucoup de renseignements sur la fiche technique.
Des 4, je partirais plus sur le Intec R-T-RO4. Plutôt bon rapport équipement/prix et déjà avec les 2 portes bagages.
Bonjour. Tu as effectivement pas mal de sujets à propos du Fahrrad T400, et aussi (un peu moins) sur le Intec R-T-RO4. Le Raleigh est pas trop mal équipé, c'est juste le 48-36-26 qui me parait un peu gros. Le Gitane...pas beaucoup de renseignements sur la fiche technique.
Des 4, je partirais plus sur le Intec R-T-RO4. Plutôt bon rapport équipement/prix et déjà avec les 2 portes bagages.
Deore, Deore lx : minimum recommandé pour moyeux, pignons, plateaux, dérailleurs, pédales, chaine, freins
jante : double paroi , avec 1 ou 2 oeillets, avec rayon inox 2 mm
nombre de rayons 36 recommandé
pignons : taille 11-34 recommandé
plateau : taille 22, 32, 42 reccommandé
les vélo qui se rapproche le plus du vélo de cyclo-camping : ceux avec des roues de 559 mm (26") mais il ne faut pas en faire un point de fixation. en europe je choisirai plutôt des 622 mm (28") mais les 2 tailles sont valables
taille des pneus pour du 622 mm : 35 à 42 mm pneu semi-slick pour l'Europe
à toi de voir
jante : double paroi , avec 1 ou 2 oeillets, avec rayon inox 2 mm
nombre de rayons 36 recommandé
pignons : taille 11-34 recommandé
plateau : taille 22, 32, 42 reccommandé
les vélo qui se rapproche le plus du vélo de cyclo-camping : ceux avec des roues de 559 mm (26") mais il ne faut pas en faire un point de fixation. en europe je choisirai plutôt des 622 mm (28") mais les 2 tailles sont valables
taille des pneus pour du 622 mm : 35 à 42 mm pneu semi-slick pour l'Europe
à toi de voir
bonjour,
j'ai acheté le farhad manufaktur t400 24 vitesses il y a 11 mois. plus de 3000 km au compteur dont 500km de pistes marocaines. Il est équipés de swalbe marathon XR, lourds, collant à la route, mais passe-partout ! Selle brooks flyer "pré rodée" guidon papillon
IDEAL pour mon programme et aspirations : véloboulo. qques balades en Europe + pistes maroc !
Attention : vu le poids des machines ( vélo + remorque extra wheel + moteur;) ) il faut faire de la patience une religion, de la lenteur un art de vivre !
bonnes balades les yeux ouverts
Yves
j'ai acheté le farhad manufaktur t400 24 vitesses il y a 11 mois. plus de 3000 km au compteur dont 500km de pistes marocaines. Il est équipés de swalbe marathon XR, lourds, collant à la route, mais passe-partout ! Selle brooks flyer "pré rodée" guidon papillon
IDEAL pour mon programme et aspirations : véloboulo. qques balades en Europe + pistes maroc !
Attention : vu le poids des machines ( vélo + remorque extra wheel + moteur;) ) il faut faire de la patience une religion, de la lenteur un art de vivre !
bonnes balades les yeux ouverts
Yves
pas de vent favorable pour celui qui ne sait où il va
Confucius
bonsoir
pour infos
j'ai un triban de chez DK qui a fait pas mal de kms.....acheté 399 euros
regarde le riverside 5 pour 449 euros et mieux le riverside 7 à 749 euros , tu rajoutes une bonne tige de selle de chez cyclo randonée et te voila prêt pour ton voyage. mais tu as du DK et les puristes vont raler....
bonne route
gérard
gérard Vergnes
Pour ma part j'ai un vélo proche de celui de poney par exemple
Un VTT trek remasterisé costaud
revient à 1800 euros avec la totale (sauf sacoche que j'avais dejà) mais on peut faire moins cher en le montant soit même
Il m'est revenu cher mais en 6600 km aucun incident ni crevaison sur des routes + voies dites vertes (terre battue) et quelques portions chemins caillouteux
http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/fanette.php
(le trek de base , valait 400 euros !, mais un peu léger en fiabilité, d'autant plus que mon poids est de 90 kg !, mais si on esy plus léger on peut se contenter d'un vélo moins costo)
a 1000 euros
ya cela http://www.rando-cycles.fr/basic.html
revient à 1800 euros avec la totale (sauf sacoche que j'avais dejà) mais on peut faire moins cher en le montant soit même
Il m'est revenu cher mais en 6600 km aucun incident ni crevaison sur des routes + voies dites vertes (terre battue) et quelques portions chemins caillouteux
http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/fanette.php
(le trek de base , valait 400 euros !, mais un peu léger en fiabilité, d'autant plus que mon poids est de 90 kg !, mais si on esy plus léger on peut se contenter d'un vélo moins costo)
a 1000 euros
ya cela http://www.rando-cycles.fr/basic.html
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
Bonjour,
Pour la gouverne de tous les maximalistes du forum, j'ai atteint Constantza sur la mer noire en partant de Saint-Nazaire avec un VTC gitane à 300 euros dont je n'avais changé que le pédalier pour avoir un 52 dents pour ne pas me trainer sur le plat. Quand je suis parti, le vélo avait déjà fait plusieurs fois le tour de la Bretagne (il avait environ 3000 km dans les roues)
Pour ceux qui connaissent la Valachie (sud roumanie) ça vaut largement le Maroc quertions pistes et routes défoncées. Chargé de 30 kilos de bagaes, juste un ennui: une rupture de porte-bagage avant sur une piste pourrie (zefal, entrée de gamme).
Les dérailleurs, de gamme Tourney, nécessitaient de les bricoler au tourne-vis tous les 2 jours. J'ai cassé deux rayons sur une roue arrière à Vienne.
L'important, c'est l'envie de faire du vélo. J'ai rencontré en Bretagbne un gus qui venait de la région parisienne pour passer des vacances avec un vélo de femme à pignons fixes!
Maintenant, j'ai opté en France pour un vélo de course des années 90, cadre acier, porte bagage et sacoches avant, pneus top speed kevlar 700X28. Avec ça, il n'y a pas de chemin normalement carrossable qui me résiste, et je réalise des bonnes moyennes. Si on veut que le vélo soit réellement iun moyen de transport, il faut au moins pouvoir avaler ses 100 bornes par jour, tout en gardant du temps pour visiter. Avec ce type d'engin, tu les avales en 5 heures de selle. (entre temps, bistrot et bière à chaque arrêt, la vie est courte).
En bref, il n'ya pas de pb de vélo ou de prix, Tout dépend du cycliste et u programme. Ce qui est sur, c'est que plus tu bricoles et moins tu as besoin d'un vélo haut de gamme. C'es ten pratiquant que tu trouves le matériel qui t'est personnellement adapté, c'est pourquoi, au départ, je ne forcerai pas sur le prix, quitte à rééquiper peu à peu le vélo au fur et à mesure des besoins et des manques.
Philippe
Pour la gouverne de tous les maximalistes du forum, j'ai atteint Constantza sur la mer noire en partant de Saint-Nazaire avec un VTC gitane à 300 euros dont je n'avais changé que le pédalier pour avoir un 52 dents pour ne pas me trainer sur le plat. Quand je suis parti, le vélo avait déjà fait plusieurs fois le tour de la Bretagne (il avait environ 3000 km dans les roues)
Pour ceux qui connaissent la Valachie (sud roumanie) ça vaut largement le Maroc quertions pistes et routes défoncées. Chargé de 30 kilos de bagaes, juste un ennui: une rupture de porte-bagage avant sur une piste pourrie (zefal, entrée de gamme).
Les dérailleurs, de gamme Tourney, nécessitaient de les bricoler au tourne-vis tous les 2 jours. J'ai cassé deux rayons sur une roue arrière à Vienne.
L'important, c'est l'envie de faire du vélo. J'ai rencontré en Bretagbne un gus qui venait de la région parisienne pour passer des vacances avec un vélo de femme à pignons fixes!
Maintenant, j'ai opté en France pour un vélo de course des années 90, cadre acier, porte bagage et sacoches avant, pneus top speed kevlar 700X28. Avec ça, il n'y a pas de chemin normalement carrossable qui me résiste, et je réalise des bonnes moyennes. Si on veut que le vélo soit réellement iun moyen de transport, il faut au moins pouvoir avaler ses 100 bornes par jour, tout en gardant du temps pour visiter. Avec ce type d'engin, tu les avales en 5 heures de selle. (entre temps, bistrot et bière à chaque arrêt, la vie est courte).
En bref, il n'ya pas de pb de vélo ou de prix, Tout dépend du cycliste et u programme. Ce qui est sur, c'est que plus tu bricoles et moins tu as besoin d'un vélo haut de gamme. C'es ten pratiquant que tu trouves le matériel qui t'est personnellement adapté, c'est pourquoi, au départ, je ne forcerai pas sur le prix, quitte à rééquiper peu à peu le vélo au fur et à mesure des besoins et des manques.
Philippe
salut malokoxice
comme dit velosaintnaz qu'importe le flacon, pourvue que l'ont est l'ivresse j'ai vue un vélo à 600 euros http://www.poison-bikes.de/Trekking-Fahrraeder/City-Fahrraeder/ il est bien équipée, mon prochain vélo...
bon pédalage
comme dit velosaintnaz qu'importe le flacon, pourvue que l'ont est l'ivresse j'ai vue un vélo à 600 euros http://www.poison-bikes.de/Trekking-Fahrraeder/City-Fahrraeder/ il est bien équipée, mon prochain vélo...
bon pédalage
pour rester dans la rubrique "loin pour pas cher" voir le Blog d'Alibaba qui a rallié Essaouira au Maroc depuis la Belgique sur un vélo acheté qques euros aux puces, sacoches de récup, ...
http://michel-en-velo.over-blog.com/
yves
yves
pas de vent favorable pour celui qui ne sait où il va
Confucius
..., sacoches de récup, ...
La Bobyak?
La Bobyak?
Salut
Mon vélo plus de 8000km au compteur 5500 en amèrique du sud cadre specialized d'ocas le reste équipé en shimano deore les roues à l'avant shimano à l'arrière mavic pneus "schwalbe marathon plus" sacoches ortlieb porte bagages fabrication perso l'ensemble pour 600 euros préparation perso et toujours 0 problème. Je repars en janvier en argentine avec ce vélo. Il faut jouer dans le registre solide et simple.
Mon vélo plus de 8000km au compteur 5500 en amèrique du sud cadre specialized d'ocas le reste équipé en shimano deore les roues à l'avant shimano à l'arrière mavic pneus "schwalbe marathon plus" sacoches ortlieb porte bagages fabrication perso l'ensemble pour 600 euros préparation perso et toujours 0 problème. Je repars en janvier en argentine avec ce vélo. Il faut jouer dans le registre solide et simple.
pm67
Bravo
pour aller ds le sens : c'est l'envie qui prime j'ai rencontré un couple de chinois au bord du léman venus de chine à vélo, sur des bécane style le vélo de ma mère pour aller acheter le pain ils semblaient heureux claude
pour aller ds le sens : c'est l'envie qui prime j'ai rencontré un couple de chinois au bord du léman venus de chine à vélo, sur des bécane style le vélo de ma mère pour aller acheter le pain ils semblaient heureux claude
Claudio de la Faverges.
Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste.
plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger
en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
J'arrive peut-être trop tard, as-tu déjà fait ton choix ?... En ce qui me concerne, sur les conseils d'yvesvan, j'ai acheté mon vélo à Bruxelles, dans un magasin spécialisé dans le vélo de rando.
J'ai commandé le Fahrrad T400 jaune, cadre acier, j'ai fait changer la selle pour une brooks B17 et j'ai changé également le porte bagage arrière pour un "tubus", j'en ai également fait installer un à l'avant. J'ai aussi acheté un compteur sans fil. Le tout pour 1 100, 00 euros. Bon je n'ai fait que 80 km depuis que je l'ai reçu, mais j'en suis pour l'instant très satisfait.
Si ça peut t'aider...
A plus Greg
Si ça peut t'aider...
A plus Greg
Je compte également acheter un Fahrrad dans 2 petits mois! Le T-300.
Greg1501, j'ai une petite question, a combien était ton vélo au départ? et combien as tu payé ta selle...?
Merci bien!
Escapop
Escapop
Salut Escapop !
Au départ mon vélo le Fahrrad T400 était entre 800 et 900 euros (je n'ai plus le prix exact en tête). La selle brooks B17 avoisinait les 100 euros.
Tiens!
Escapop!
Après le Vélotaf, des envies de voyages à vélo? Bienvenue ici !
Après le Vélotaf, des envies de voyages à vélo? Bienvenue ici !
"La parfaite raison fuit toute extrémité, et veut que l'on soit sage avec sobriété".
Salut Molokoxice,
un site intéressant pour toi http://www.mundubicyclette.be/
De mon côté, un T400 qui va fêter ses 4 ans dans les jours qui viennent: environ 20-25.000 km sur les pavés bruxellois, et toujours que du plaisir !
Question matos:
- les pneus, des Continental, à remplacer trop souvent à l'arrière (+-4-5.000 km) pour déchirures le long de la jante. Pour le moment, je teste les Schwalbe.
- la chaîne et la K7: sans problème pour +- 5.000 Km. En plus, il faut changer la K7 et la chaîne. J'ai fait le test de "tourner" sur deux chaînes en les changeant alternativement (après nettoyage et huilage) tous les mois (merci le clipsage rapide !). Efficace ! 10-12.000 km avant de changer K7 + chaîne.
- le pédalier: nickel même si on le dit "étanche": un jet d'huile l'autorise à rester silencieux.
- les moyeux: des Deore, toujours aussi frais qu'au premier jour. Mais c'est vrai que je les démonte et regraisse (généreusement) une ou deux fois par an.
- le dérailleur arrière: toujours le LX d'origine, que j'ai appris à connaître (sensible à la tension du cable)
- les freins Vbrakes: Deore à l'origine, un peu fatigués après un hiver salé, et remplacés par des XT (merci eBay !) No problem !
- les jantes: des Xplorer, de Rigida. A l'arrière, je viens de la remplacer pour la 2ème fois ( en gardant le moyeu et les rayons); la roue avant, c'est la première fois. Sur les conseils de personnes que je pense qualifiées, j'ai acheté quelques jantes "sun rhyno lite' que j'expérimenterai sur mes prochains montages de roues.
Bon voyage !
ptitgris
Salut!
Merci beaucoup pour vos réponses qui vont bien m'aider dans mon choix.
D'après beaucoup de vos avis le T400 serait un bon choix, et il me tente bien mais le problème est où l'essayer et l'acheter? Je crois que c'est trouvable a Paris mais du coup ça fait le prix d'un aller retour a paris en plus, alors que je peux trouver le gitane a coté de chez moi... On verra!
J'aimerais beaucoup monter moi même mon velo pour avoir exactement ce que je veu à un prix réduit mais j'ai peur de me lancer là-dedant étant donné que je ne suis pas un pro du bricolage de velo; je risquerais d'avoir des problème!
A la prochaine et merci!
2pairesderoues.blogspot.fr
😎 bonjour j etais branchè sur un t800 !!il me prenait 150 euros de frais de transport , je me suis donc redirigè sur un voisin , , pas trop loin de chez moi !!velo allemand fabriquè en allemagne et de tres bonne facture !! je pense que sur CLERMONT FERRAND TU devrais trouver !bonne chance http://www.veloland-isere.com/kalkhoff__velo_image_27-g_slx__p27537.html😏
BERNARD "Aucun conseil n'est plus loyal que celui qui se donne sur le navire en péril.
Voiture : Invention ingénieuse, permettant de contenir 110 chevaux dans le moteur et un âne au volant.
Philippe,
Merci pour votre message qui m'a réconciliée avec mon VTC Peugeot.Il m'a emmenée sur différentes randos et toujours avec beaucoup de plaisir.
Toutes ces discussions techniques m'ont donné le tournis! Je vous cite:" le plus important, c'est l'envie de faire du vélo". Je suis complètement d'accord avec ça!!!!
Que chacun(e) trouve la meilleure monture pour de belles randos!
Dominique
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After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.


I just took a trip in Tunisia from Tozeur to Douz, skirting Chott el Jerid to the south. I’m back with the urge to keep going further south via the 4x4 tracks to connect Douz to Ksar Ghilane. Has anyone driven this route recently or explored southern Tunisia?
Thanks for your tips!
fix
Hi, who can recommend a bike route from Vienne, Isère to Sicily, and what’s the best time of year to go?
Thanks
https://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr/
https://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr/
😎Fellow traveling cyclists or not, all of you who love travel, the pleasure of physical effort, nature, beautiful machines, people with true passions they seek to fulfill, and who also enjoy reading great literature about all this—the *200* magazine is for you just as it is for me. I should mention I have no financial or other interest in this (in an era where we accuse our politicians of all sorts of vile interests, I prefer to take precautions). I’ve been subscribed since the beginning, and every three months, I get my 130 pages of dreams (the magazine just went from 110 to 130 pages).
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
It covers everything from the trans-America route to the TCR (Trans Continental Race) from Belgium to a small town in Turkey, with mind-blowing averages—4,000 km and 80,000 m of elevation gain in 8 days and 15 hours for the winner. Let that sink in, and all of it without assistance—accepting a patch could penalize you. There’s also a story about crossing Iran, encountering one of the world’s most welcoming populations, following in the footsteps of Nicolas Bouvier, as well as retirees leisurely traversing France. The common thread in all these stories? Beautiful writing. Take, for example, a stunning article: *"Passengers of the Cold: From Edinburgh to Thurso, at the very north of Scotland, 550 km of moors, coasts, and icy wind. In Thurso, the road ends at a quay, facing the Orkney Islands. We wanted a November trip, off-season. We wanted to surprise winter. Just before the snow."* A sublime piece on the experience of facing adversity and the chance encounters along the road and in the elements.
Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.








