Tente 4 places light ou haute + cherche remorque bagage
by Thiebin
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonjour à tous,
J'ai pas mal navigué sur le forum mais besoin de conseil pour une tente 4 places avec 2 petits enfants pour un périple de 3 semaines à vélo :
1/ Vaut il mieux privilégier le poids, moins de 5kg, qui veut dire pas tenir debout à l'intérieur (avec 2 petits pas autonomes)
2/ ou vaut il mieux privilégier l'espace et la hauteur mais avec un poid de 13/15 kg ?
Qui a eu des expériences pour me conseiller ?
3/ On cherche aussi une remorque monoroue bagagère d'occasion, env 100euros, qui a des propositions à me faire ?
Merci de vos retours.
Hello,
Privilégier le poids à moins de 5 kg ne veut pas dire ne pas pouvoir tenir debout et ne pas avoir de volume. Nous avons un tipi mono-parois de 5 à 6 places qui regroupe toutes ces qualités. Sauf qu'elle ne fait que 4 kg.
En revanche c'est moins discret, pas autoportant et surtout cher. Mais un tipi à monter en fin de journée avec des enfants je vous garantis que ça les motives.
Privilégier le poids à moins de 5 kg ne veut pas dire ne pas pouvoir tenir debout et ne pas avoir de volume. Nous avons un tipi mono-parois de 5 à 6 places qui regroupe toutes ces qualités. Sauf qu'elle ne fait que 4 kg.
En revanche c'est moins discret, pas autoportant et surtout cher. Mais un tipi à monter en fin de journée avec des enfants je vous garantis que ça les motives.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
Merci pour l'info mais c'est quoi cher car budget moyen ?
Je peux eventuellement la trouver d'occas, quelle est la marque et le modèle ou cas où ?
Merci pour l'info mais c'est quoi cher car budget moyen ?
Je peux eventuellement la trouver d'occas, quelle est la marque et le modèle ou cas où ?
C'est vrai tout est relatif. Cher pour moi cela veut dire > à 400€/$ voir même bien avant...
Après, sans entrer dans un long débat qui de toute manière divise, c'est comme bcp de choses : tout dépend de ses priorités, de la fréquence d'utilisation etc etc...
J'utilise un modèle de chez tentipi.com mais il y a aussi des modèles chez Golite.com mais il y a encore beaucoup d'autres constructeurs. C'est assez difficile à trouver il faut bien le dire aussi.
C'est vrai tout est relatif. Cher pour moi cela veut dire > à 400€/$ voir même bien avant...
Après, sans entrer dans un long débat qui de toute manière divise, c'est comme bcp de choses : tout dépend de ses priorités, de la fréquence d'utilisation etc etc...
J'utilise un modèle de chez tentipi.com mais il y a aussi des modèles chez Golite.com mais il y a encore beaucoup d'autres constructeurs. C'est assez difficile à trouver il faut bien le dire aussi.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
Après plusieurs voyages à vélo avec enfants, je suis particulièrement satisfait des tentes décath pour le bivouac: la t4 ultralight pro est spacieuse et bien faite mais pas autoportante: 170 euros env.et 4 kg.
bon voyage
bon voyage
Merci, beaucoup conseil aussi cet T4 ultralight.
J'ai lu un avis défavorable sous la pluie as tu eu la "chance" de tester ?
Effectivement pas d'occas pour le tipi...et pas d'occas non plus pour la remorque bagagère Bob Yak... pas de chance !
Merci quand même.
bonjour,
oui je l'ai utilisé pendant 11 nuit dans le massif central:
meteo: neige grèle pluie tempête. Aucun problème.
popote dans l'abside sans problème de sécurité( très spacieuse).
bref rapport qualité prix poids imbattable.
Nous avons scotché (superduck), 2 épaisses couvertures de survie pour mettre sous la tente (ça tombe pile poil), cela protège le sol de la tente et isole du froid.
Dans le temps peut-être qu'elle s'usera plus vite qu'une tente de même gabarit 3 fois plus cher.
Si tu veux la voir en action tu peux survoler notre film sur youtube: tu cherche "GTMC partie 1" il y a 2 autres parties.
Cordialement.
Si tu veux la voir en action tu peux survoler notre film sur youtube: tu cherche "GTMC partie 1" il y a 2 autres parties.
Cordialement.
Effectivement, au niveau de la météo vous avez été plutôt gâtée !
Au passage, super film, souvenir formidable pour votre enfant.
La tente semble bien pratique.
J'ai aussi vu les sacoches Vaude ou Ortlieb? et impermébles je suppose ?
il s'agit de sacoches ortlieb back roller plus, montées sur des portes-bagages Tubus en inox. Elles sont légères, étanches et résistantes (cordura). J'ai tout acheté sur des sites allemands: -30%.
Cordialement. Alexis.
Cordialement. Alexis.
Je veux bien l'adresse du site si tu as.
Merci
Hello,
La notion de pratique et de confort dépend de chacun. La T4 est à mon avis une excellente tente avec un très bon rapport qualité/prix. A mon avis elle sera d'autant meilleure le jour au décath mettra les guides des arceaux sur le double toit et que la tente intérieure pourra se monter à l'abri. C'est son plus gros défaut. Nous l'avons testé une saison complète. Monter sa chambre intérieure sous la pluie est un moment de grande frustration. Néanmoins elle est très fonctionnelle, il faut bien le dire.
La notion de pratique et de confort dépend de chacun. La T4 est à mon avis une excellente tente avec un très bon rapport qualité/prix. A mon avis elle sera d'autant meilleure le jour au décath mettra les guides des arceaux sur le double toit et que la tente intérieure pourra se monter à l'abri. C'est son plus gros défaut. Nous l'avons testé une saison complète. Monter sa chambre intérieure sous la pluie est un moment de grande frustration. Néanmoins elle est très fonctionnelle, il faut bien le dire.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
Salut,
C'est son plus gros défaut. Nous l'avons testé une saison complète. Monter sa chambre intérieure sous la pluie est un moment de grande frustration.
j'envisage de prendre cette tente, il semble que maintenant la chambre soit pré-montée. C'est en tout cas ce qui est montré sur la vidéo du fabricant. Donc bon rapport qualité/prix je pense.
A+
édit; j'ai lu et parlé trop vite, le poste évoque une tente 4 places et moi de la 3 places... toutes mes confuses 😊
C'est son plus gros défaut. Nous l'avons testé une saison complète. Monter sa chambre intérieure sous la pluie est un moment de grande frustration.
j'envisage de prendre cette tente, il semble que maintenant la chambre soit pré-montée. C'est en tout cas ce qui est montré sur la vidéo du fabricant. Donc bon rapport qualité/prix je pense.
A+
édit; j'ai lu et parlé trop vite, le poste évoque une tente 4 places et moi de la 3 places... toutes mes confuses 😊
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bonjour
une autre tente que nous recommandons: la Fjellheimen camp 4 de Hellsport. C'est celle que nous utilisons en cyclo-camping avec nos 4 enfants qui ont entre 2, 5 et 10 ans. en fait c'est la leur nous les parents en avons une petite 2 places de montagne. La Fjellheimen est spacieuse, avec une très grande abside, qui nous a permis d'y cuisiner et d'y manger à 6 en cas de mauvais temps. Le montage est simple et rapide, avec la tente extérieure qui se monte avant, il suffit ensuite d'y clipser la tente intérieure. C'est très pratique quand il pleut car on monte au sec, idem pour démonter sous la pluie, on range la tente intérieure et on a ensuite un immense abri où on peut tranquillement tout plier et organiser dans les sacoches sans se faire tremper. Avec des petits enfants c'est non négligeable. elle est très légère au vu de son volume: 3, 4 kilo. Pour nous à vélo et en étant 6 c'était un critère important car nous trimballons déjà pas mal de poids. Les inconvénients: elle n'est pas autoportante, donc difficile à mettre si le terrain est très, très dur, et elle est très chère : 600 euros. Après tout dépend de l'usage que tu veux en faire, si c'est juste pour une balade, ce n'est peut être pas la peine d'investir autant d'argent. Si c'est un équipement pour du long terme, cela vaut probablement le coup, sachant qu'en famille les hébergements reviennent vite très chers et qu'une D4 ne tiendra probablement pas aussi longtemps en terme d'étanchéité (d'après ce que j'ai pu lire sur différents forums). Quel que soit le choix, il est effectivement prudent de mettre une petite bâche ou couverture de survie sous la tente pour protéger le plancher.
une autre tente que nous recommandons: la Fjellheimen camp 4 de Hellsport. C'est celle que nous utilisons en cyclo-camping avec nos 4 enfants qui ont entre 2, 5 et 10 ans. en fait c'est la leur nous les parents en avons une petite 2 places de montagne. La Fjellheimen est spacieuse, avec une très grande abside, qui nous a permis d'y cuisiner et d'y manger à 6 en cas de mauvais temps. Le montage est simple et rapide, avec la tente extérieure qui se monte avant, il suffit ensuite d'y clipser la tente intérieure. C'est très pratique quand il pleut car on monte au sec, idem pour démonter sous la pluie, on range la tente intérieure et on a ensuite un immense abri où on peut tranquillement tout plier et organiser dans les sacoches sans se faire tremper. Avec des petits enfants c'est non négligeable. elle est très légère au vu de son volume: 3, 4 kilo. Pour nous à vélo et en étant 6 c'était un critère important car nous trimballons déjà pas mal de poids. Les inconvénients: elle n'est pas autoportante, donc difficile à mettre si le terrain est très, très dur, et elle est très chère : 600 euros. Après tout dépend de l'usage que tu veux en faire, si c'est juste pour une balade, ce n'est peut être pas la peine d'investir autant d'argent. Si c'est un équipement pour du long terme, cela vaut probablement le coup, sachant qu'en famille les hébergements reviennent vite très chers et qu'une D4 ne tiendra probablement pas aussi longtemps en terme d'étanchéité (d'après ce que j'ai pu lire sur différents forums). Quel que soit le choix, il est effectivement prudent de mettre une petite bâche ou couverture de survie sous la tente pour protéger le plancher.
moi aussi je suis a la recherche du miracle concernant une tente 4 places, légère, pas cher, grand abside ...
en gros impossible d'avoir tous ces critères réunis, mais je désespère pas !!
pour l'instant je m'oriente sur l'un de ces modèles
Une tente de chez Vango ou de chez husky
ou si j'ai un peu plus d'argent j'irais effectivement chez helsport pour une tente tipi ou tunnel !
voila ca fait pas beaucoup avancé les choses ...
Nous n'avons pour l'instant pas eu de problèmes avec les arceaux malgré des petites mains qui ne sont pas toujours très délicates mais nous connaisson une autre famille qui a cassé un arceau. Par contre, un kit de réparartion (arceau + toile) est inclus et dans le cas cité, hellsport leur avait envoyé un jeu d'arceau de rechange. Ils voyagent eux depuis maintenant un an à vélo autour du monde avec 2 tentes Fjellheimen et ont donc une quantité de nuit considérables sous la tente. Ils en sont ravis et reprendraient la même si besoin.
Nous n'avons pour l'instant pas eu de problèmes avec les arceaux malgré des petites mains qui ne sont pas toujours très délicates mais nous connaisson une autre famille qui a cassé un arceau. Par contre, un kit de réparartion (arceau + toile) est inclus et dans le cas cité, hellsport leur avait envoyé un jeu d'arceau de rechange. Ils voyagent eux depuis maintenant un an à vélo autour du monde avec 2 tentes Fjellheimen et ont donc une quantité de nuit considérables sous la tente. Ils en sont ravis et reprendraient la même si besoin.
Merci pour ce témoignage, un lien vers le site ou le blog de cette famille ?
Simon.
Merci pour ce témoignage, un lien vers le site ou le blog de cette famille ?
Simon.
Bon voyage,
Simon.
oui, ce sont les bicylettons: 2 adultes et 3 enfants en balade depuis mai 2008:
http://5-bicyclettons.over-blog.com
En raison du budget, je vais sûrement m'orienter sur la D4 ultralight.
En tout cas vos conseils sont précieux. Merci à tous.
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Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.







