Après avoir traverser le l'Iran et le Pakistan avec notre véhicule, nous sommes actuellement sur Katmandou au Népal dans l'attente des 2 mois d'intervalles obligatoire pour l'obtention de nos nouveaux visas Indien, ensuite nous projetons la suite de notre périple sur la Malaisie.
Donc je suis à la recherche de toute infos récentes sur les transfert de Calcutta ou Chennai pour l'Asie du sud-est, ou toute personne qui serait susceptible de le faire début d'année 2013 .
Le cargo sera une première pour nous donc je voudrais savoir à quoi nous attendre et surtout comment ça se passe ?
1ere chose : depuis tout récemment tu n'as plus besoin d'attendre 2 mois pour revenir en Inde (remonte la file "inde" sur 10/15 jours tu y retrouveras l'info
Deuxio : pour l'envoi vers la Malaisie il est hautement préférable d'utiliser un container ( il se peut qu'un 20' suffise ) - A toi de choisir entre Calcutta et Chennai , perso j'ai poussé jusqu'en bas...prévoir de laisser ton véhicule 4/5 jours avant le départ (si tout va bien...) , 5/6 jours pour la traversée et 3/4 jours pour le récupérer ( si il y a pas un WE au milieu ) - Au niveau tarif j'ai payé en juillet 1650 dolls pour un 40' auxquels tu rajouteras les billets d'avion ( 100€ si tu t'y prends à l'avance , le double si tu les prends qqes jours avant ) + l'hotellerie/resto pendant env 3 sem + env 300/400€ pour récupérer ton véhicule en Malaisie
en 2008, nous avions envoyé notre véhicule dans un HC, de Chennai en Malaisie.
Nous étions passés par 2 transitaires qui nous ont donné entière satisfaction :
WINSTAR SHIPPING SERVICES
78 ARMENIAN STREET
CHENNAI 600 001
EMAIL : winstar@vsnl.com
ANR Freight services
N° GA 1st floor
lorong Berangan
Port klang selangor
EMAIL :jetpklg@jets.com.my
je ne sais pas si ces adresses sont toujours valables,
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ha ! voilà des nouvelles bien fraîche !
Tuture, pourrais-tu me donner l'adresse de ton transitaire ? merci.
Merci pour le reste, je vais m'empresser de les contacter.
Je pense que pour notre cas un 20' devrait coller, il faut que je prenne les mesures exact mais je ne pense pas que notre TOY fasse plus de 5.9m de long, tout ce que je sais c'est qu'il pèse 3400kg !!!
je viens aux nouvelles ... car nous hésitons entre le container et la traversée par la Chine (une agence nous le propose pour 4000€, sachant que le devis est largement diminuable ... j'ai redemandé un devis en allant au plus court et plus rapide) pour faire Inde / Laos.
Alors ? galère ou pas ? quel prix ? combien de temps ? vous avez fait les papiers tout seul ou passer par une agence pour vous aider ?
Merci d'avance ...
PS : Vous nous aidez vachement vous faite le même trajet que nous avec de l'avance ! Nous nous voulons aller jusqu'à l'Australie !
Salut,
le toy est sur le bateau à l'heure ou je vous parle.
Je confirme qu'on m'a encore déconseillé de passer par la chine via le Népal, beaucoup trop cher et le planning que l'on vous fournis est express genre 400km par jour sur des routes de montagne !!!
Chennai aucun problème mais beaucoup d'attente chez les customs et pour le chargement, notre transitaire c'est occupé de tout mais il fallait être présent pour les signatures et il y en a ...
Question prix, la part du shipping n'est pas cher 300$ pour un 40" et 200$ pour un 20" mais il faut additionné à cela, taxes douanes, taxes portuaire, mise en conteneur, transport du conteneur au port et chargement sur bateau.
Pour notre part nous avons négocié un 40'' pour 2 voitures à 1550$, partager en 2 cela reste largement correct je pense. Un 20" seul sera guère moins cher car tu n'auras que 1 taxe douanière en moins, dans les 1300$ peut être ?
Attention, il faut pensé qu'il reste les taxes portuaire à l'arrivé ! je ne les connais pas encore mais ça doit se tabler sur 500$.
Pour le tarif négocier, c'est tout compris ? (taxes, douanes, ...) sauf frais de débarquement évidemment !
quelle est la fréquence des bateaux qui partent pour ce trajet ? quel est votre port d'arrivée ? (je ne sais plus si vous le dite dans les post précédents ...)
et une question stupide : ou avez vous trouver une compagnie pour ce trajet ? je veux dire, sur place, vous allez où ? au port je suppose mais ce sont des boites qui ont pignon sur rue ? dsl mais beaucoup disent : à voir sur place ! mais, même en France, je sais pas où j'irai pour demander un shipping ! j'ai rarement mis les pieds dans un port me direz vous ! dsl pour mon ignorance !
par contre je ne savais pas qu'il y avait des retours négatifs sur ces trajets en chine ! je n'ai vu ça nul part sur le net ! mais je n'ai pas vraiment cherché non plus !
Vous avez traversé le Pakistan ? Nous hésitons aussi pour passer d'Iran en Inde : cargo du su de l'Iran à l'Inde ou passage par le Pakistan d'Iran en Inde (Quetta Lahore Srinagar) ou passage par la Chine depuis le Kirghizistan à Sost au Pakistan puis Inde (ce qui nous fait prendre la Karakorum Highway qui semble t'il est magnifique ! Nous avons eu un devis de 1700€ pour ce passage par la Chine ...
Je sais qu'il y a d'autre post où ces sujets sont abordés mais tant que je vous tiens, je vous pose directement la question, vu que vous venez de faire un trajet semblable à celui que l'on prépare semble t'il.
Nous voulons faire le trajet pour l'Inde début septembre et le trajet Népal / Laos début janvier 2014. Pour le trajet pour le laos ils nous propose 4800 pour un véhicule, 5700 pour 2 et 6700 pour 3 véhicules !
je peux vous faire suivre les devis en privé si vous souhaitez ?
Quelles dates vous intéressent ?
oui ! c'est une question que je me suis posé et que je leur ai posé ... pas de réponses ... on verra bien ... Mais c'est la raison qui fait que nous allons surement prendre un cargo, comme ça on fera un passage au Myanmar pendant le transfert ... mais ça tombe pendant les jeux du sud est asiatique donc on se méfie pour les logements ...
j'attends de voir ce qu'ils me réponde pour jauger de la confiance qu'on peut leur attribuer !
Mais merci de nous avertir ! mais on s'en rend compte ! a vrai dire j'ai percuté après la demande de devis, par hasard ! j'ai percuté un peu tard mais j'ai percuté !
Oui, les devis m'intéresse. Mais nous ne passerons pas par là avant le printemps 2015. Nous prévoyons 1 an Mongolie et route de la soie avant ça.
Tuture, je crois que tu avais suivi le passage de Magicbus. Te souviens-tu par où il était passé et avec quelle agence?
Il avait fait Népal/Mongolie/Chine/Laos mais je ne sais pas avec quelle agence , le mieux c'est de le contacter directement - Des agences , y'en a pas des masses et Voyageautibet regroupe plusieurs dénominations mais en fait c'est la même équipe ( Voyageautibet pour les Français , Panorama pour les Allemands , etc...) -En tout cas ils sont clean , on avait versé l'accompte pour passer Tibet/Chine/Laos en juillet et 1 mois avant ça avait été annulé pour cause de fermeture du Tibet aux étrangers - Ils avaient remboursé rapidement cet accompte -
Navo est réputée plus chère
Pour info , on était neuf équipages à passer et la facture était de 20 000€ , pas croire que parce qu'on est plus nombreux que ça coûte rien...
ok, et vous êtes passés par où du coup?
Si c'est dans les 2000-2500e, ça reste faisable pour nousmême si ça fait chier de payer.. Ça se vaut avec un shipping, en PL pour nous et je préfère la route....
A voir le moment venu...
Si tu es en PL y'a pas photo , la Chine est plus avantageuse , à 2 ou 3 équipagages tu y trouveras on compte - Que tu sois en mobylette ou en 40 tonnes tu payes la même chose pour traverser la Chine
After 40 years of traveling in Morocco, I want to explore a new area by 4x4—the Western Moroccan Sahara, which I don’t know very well.
I have plenty of tracks and itineraries, but I’d love some info to help me decide on the best route:
Part 1:
I want to do the ASSA - SMARA crossing. Basically, I have two options: the first follows the Draa River and goes through M’SIED, and the second is much further south, passing through LABOUIRAT and heading straight to SMARA.
If you have any details on road conditions, driving restrictions, etc., I’d really appreciate it.
Part 2:
SMARA - BIR ANZERANE - DAKHLA – here, I also have two routes.
The first heads west from Smara toward Sidi Kathari.
The second goes east from SMARA and gets pretty close to the border at one point (about 10 km away).
Both routes meet up about 150 km later and are nearly identical from there to BIR ANZERANE and DAKHLA.
Hi,
For next summer’s vacation, I’m thinking of returning to the Sahara after visiting Tamanrasset and the Hoggar, which was stunning—not to mention the Tuareg hospitality.
I’d like to explore the sandy desert this time since the Hoggar was 80% rocky.
So, I’m wondering which city I should prioritize if I want to go there in late July–early August for the landscapes, extreme heat, and guides offering 4x4 and camel treks. Also, if there are any recommended guides for those in the know and a decent hotel.
I’m torn between Djanet, In Salah, Adrar, Ghardaïa, and Timimoun.
I’m of Algerian origin, so no visa or other formalities to worry about.
Thanks.
Hello, I’m preparing for a Tunisia-Algeria road trip.
I need to know if we can cross the Sahara to reach Djanet and Tamanrasset by road freely,
After that, obviously off-road in the desert with a guide.
What do the authorities say?
My trip: northern and southern Tunisia, a stroll in the desert.
Crossing the Tunisia-Algeria border via the Taleb Larbi customs.
I’ve already done this route through an agency, but this time we want to do it on our own.
Then heading down to Djanet for eight to fifteen days in the desert with Mouloud, a local guide.
Direction Tamanrasset: road and tracks, the mountains of the Assekrem, the Hermitage of Père de Foucauld.
Return via the Trans-Saharan Highway.
Visit to northern Algeria, then back by boat from Oran to Spain.
Dates: late December to mid-February.
We’ve got plenty of time.
If another crew is interested, we’re already two vehicles.
Looking forward to your replies.
Hi there,
I’m planning a trip to Russia and Mongolia, starting from France.
Crossing the border at Poland/Belarus or Georgia/Russia—other borders seem either closed or complicated.
Tourist visas for 3 months with multiple entries.
Do you have any info on Russian companies that cover a 4x4 vehicle for 3 months, and what prices in rubles or euros you’ve paid?
Which bank did you use for expenses? (EuroMastercard and Visa cards no longer work.)
Regarding Russian SIM cards, a new system called "Gosuslugi" has been introduced. How long did it take you to get one, and what steps did you follow?
Hi there,
We’ll be traveling in January 2027 in a 4x4 with a rooftop tent with our three kids, from Johannesburg to Cape Town. We’ve already booked several campsites in national parks (Golden Gate / Mountain Zebra / Addo Elephant / Garden Route).
We still need to reserve the stretch between De Hoop Nature Reserve and Cape Town. Any suggestions?
We’d love to stay around Cape Town for 5 days to explore the wine route, the peninsula, and do some hikes in Table Mountain.
Any camping recommendations? Or, on the contrary, places to avoid?
Also, we have 2 nights left near Wilderness National Park / Knysna. Any recommendations?
Thanks so much for your help!
For my 60th birthday (yes, I’m jumping the gun a bit!), I’m starting to plan a self-drive trip to Tanzania (in June).
I also considered Zimbabwe but I’m worried it might be a bit chilly at night in June.
I’ve revisited an itinerary I’d thought about before, tweaking it since I’ll have more days to dedicate to this trip. Still no big northern classics for the same reasons as before (too expensive, too crowded, too many tour operators).
Here’s what I’ve got so far:
(Arrival/departure from Kilimanjaro Airport)
Night 1: Arusha
Night 2: Arusha
Night 3: Lake Manyara
Night 4: On the way to Iringa (any ideas???)
Night 5: Iringa
Nights 6–8: Ruaha NP
Nights 9–10: Mikumi NP
Night 11: Bagamoyo
Nights 12–15: Beach
Nights 16–17: Lushoto
Nights 18–19: Mkomazi NP
Night 20: Toward Marangu – eastern Kilimanjaro
Night 21: Western Kilimanjaro
End of trip
All your ideas, tweaks, info, and suggestions on this route are welcome!
I could move one beach night somewhere else if needed.
Also, if you have a car rental company to recommend or thoughts on the bandas rented in the parks, I’m all ears!
Finally, what are the roads like in Ruaha in June? The rental company I’m looking at seems to allow this park with a small 4x4. (Off-limits: Serengeti and Natron)
We’re planning a long-term trip starting in April with our 4x4, beginning in the USA.
We’re still looking for car insurance that covers Canada and the USA.
We’ve read quite a few forums, but we’re hoping for some help (from fellow travelers).
Hi,
we’re planning to visit a park again.
Could you point us toward the camps in Gonarezhou Park?
>We’re traveling completely self-sufficiently.
We love wildlife.
Thanks for any tips you can share!
JP
Hi there, we’ll be in Mozambique in early December 2026 and we’d like to travel from Vilanculos to Beira by car or bus to reach Beira airport. After that, we’re planning to visit Gorongosa National Park before flying back to France from Beira. From what we’ve heard, the road to Beira is tricky, especially at this time of year (start of the rainy season). Could anyone share their thoughts or suggest a solution? Thanks so much for your help!
Anne
Hi there,
I’m heading to Lesotho in a few days and I’m struggling to find info on the best route between Katse Dam and Sehlathebe National Park. There’s a fairly "direct" route from Thaba Tseka, but the roads seem rough, and we’re not exactly 4x4 pros. Anyone have any tips to share? Thanks!
Hi everyone,
We’re heading to Mozambique in October and are looking for either a 4x4 or 4x2 rental in Maputo, or a driver transfer option to reach:
- Ponta Do Ouro
- Tofo
- Vilankulos
The idea is to be self-sufficient for sightseeing and stops while still being able to access certain lodges or beaches that require a 4x2.
Do you have any contacts, addresses, or ideas to share?
Thanks in advance,
Hello,
We're hitting the road again in 2027 to discover new countries and cultures.
Could anyone give me some tips on driving from Ulaanbaatar to Lake Baikal and the route to take?
Thanks, and safe travels to those who are setting off!
We’re planning a 4x4 trip from Belgium to Central Asia, passing through Georgia, Russia, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, and Kyrgyzstan.
For these countries, our national insurance obviously doesn’t cover the vehicle, so we’ll need to get local insurance.
Will it be a problem if the vehicle is registered under person A and the national insurance is under person B? Both A and B will be in the vehicle, and both will be listed as drivers on the insurance.
When we get the local insurance, if we again list A and B as drivers, does the order matter? Could we get stuck at the border for this reason?
Hi,
For those who’ve driven on Iceland’s gravel roads in their own or a rented Duster, could you tell me what tires were fitted on the vehicle?
Were they All Terrain tires or more "standard" ones like all-season tires, for example?
Follow-up question: if they were "standard" tires, did that cause any issues on the gravel roads and rough terrain?
Thanks so much for any info you can share.
Best,
Marc
Hi there,
I'm planning a 4x4 road trip from Darwin to Broome with a rooftop tent in July 2026.
I'd like to know if I need to book overnight stops in advance or if I can just wing it and stop wherever I feel like it?
Some evenings, we'd like to stop and make use of campsite facilities (restaurant, shop, showers, toilets).
What do you recommend?
Do I need a permit?
My rough itinerary looks like this:
Darwin - Kakadu
Kakadu - Nitmiluk
Nitmiluk - Kununurra
Kununurra - Purnululu
Purnululu - El Questro
El Questro - Mt Elizabeth - Bell Gorge - Broome
I’m planning a trip to Iceland for next July-August, with a car and tent, and I’m wondering about booking campsites.
From your experience, is it necessary or even essential to book campsites in advance, or do you always manage to find a spot to pitch your tent?
We’ll also have the option to sleep in the car without pitching the tent.
Does that give us the flexibility to stay outside a campsite for a night here and there?
Hi,
I’m planning a road trip in the Middle Atlas, starting and ending in Fez and heading down to the south of Midelt, the Assoul Massif.... We’ll be traveling with two small 4x4s.
I’m looking for detailed maps of this region that include small roads and tracks.
Last year, we had a fantastic road trip in the Anti-Atlas and High Atlas using Erfahren maps, but unfortunately, they don’t cover the area we’re interested in this year.
Thanks for your suggestions!
Dominique
We’re planning a 13-day family road trip in Morocco this July, with six people in a Toyota Prado 4x4 (renting in Marrakech).
We’ll alternate between bivouacking and small hotels/riads depending on the stops.
Here’s the planned route (in this order):
Marrakech
→ Ouarzazate
→ Draa Valley
→ Zagora
→ Erg Chegaga
→ Lake Iriki
→ Foum Zguid
→ Tata
→ Tafraoute
→ Aït Mansour
→ Tiznit
→ Mirleft
→ Taroudant
→ Back to Marrakech
Our goal:
Atlas Mountains + desert + dunes + plateaus + valleys + a bit of coastline.
We’ll cover about 1,700 km in total.
We’re planning:
Bivouacking in the Chegaga/Iriki area
Flexible for the rest (booking the day before or same day)
Sand gear: traction plates, compressor, tow strap, roof rack
Questions:
Is the Zagora → Chegaga → Iriki → Foum Zguid crossing in July doable on our own (single vehicle, no guide)?
Are there any truly technical or risky sections between Chegaga and Iriki?
Does the overall itinerary seem manageable in 13 days without rushing?
Any suggestions for great bivouac spots or particularly interesting stops along this route?
The points on the route are provisional overnight stops. Some spots will include two nights in the same area.
We’re used to off-road driving, but not yet in the Moroccan desert.
Thanks in advance for your feedback and tips! 😊
Good evening
I could use some advice 🙂
Our trip to Namibia is planned for June/July 2026.
We’re struggling a bit with timing and choosing activities for the part of the trip between Sesriem and Brandberg.
Day 1: Sesriem to Mirabib
Day 2: Mirabib to Swakopmund – visit Swakopmund, overnight in Swakopmund
Day 3: Sandwich Harbour – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 4: Kayaking with the seals + the living dunes – overnight in Swakopmund
Day 5: Moon Landscape, Henties Bay + Cape Cross – overnight at White Lady Lodge in Brandberg
Does this itinerary seem realistic to you? Is Cape Cross really worth the trip? If I had to choose between Cape Cross and kayaking with the seals, which would you recommend?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hélix
My son and I are heading to Georgia this summer to explore the High Caucasus (Svaneti, Kazbek, and Tusheti regions). For this, we’re planning to rent a 4x4.
However, the rental agencies we’ve found prohibit driving on the tracks to Omalo (Tusheti) and/or Ushguli (Svaneti).
Do you know of any agencies in Tbilisi (local and reliable) that allow rented 4x4s to drive on these tracks? If so, which ones?
Hi everyone,
I’m starting to plan an itinerary for September 2027 focused on Zimbabwe and Zambia. I’d love to visit Gonarezhou National Park—I see there are two sectors: the Mwenezi Region in the south and the area around the Runde River in the north. Should I cover both sectors or just focus on the northern region?
For the parks along the Zambezi River, is it better to visit Mana Pools on the Zimbabwe side or Lower Zambezi on the Zambia side?
Thanks in advance for any tips on the parks in these two countries.
Have a great day, everyone.
We’re spending 18 days in New Zealand from 05/04 to 05/21, arriving in QUEENSTOWN and leaving from AUCKLAND.
Any ideas for a road trip that covers the highlights of both islands but only changes hotels every 3–4 nights?
Thanks.
For our trip to Georgia in July, I’d like to rent a 4x4 starting from Tbilisi.
Do you have any rental companies to recommend?
The traditional rentals like Hertz, Avis, etc. seem way overpriced compared to local companies—what do you think? Are they properly insured?
Has anyone here tried Geo Rent Car, Auto 4 Rental, or Sur Price?
Also, I’m looking for info on the condition of the Ushguli–Lentekhi track—is it passable?
Hi everyone,
A well-prepped 4x4, a travel plan across Africa in stages since I’ve got kids to see regularly and work to earn a living.
I’m leaving in November for about a month with the goal of reaching Senegal via Mauritania. I’d love to share this trip with someone who wants to discover Mauritania and a bit of Senegal... and also experience life on board a 4x4 in the desert or bush, sometimes sleeping in the vehicle or in hostels/small hotels for comfort. I want to share this rediscovery because two’s better than one!
Just traveling, exploring, and living! !
I’m planning to explore Argentine and Chilean Patagonia for a month in December 2019.
I’m looking for a rental company (or several) that offers single-cab 4x4 pick-ups with a fitted camper cell for two people. I’m specifically after a vehicle with an indoor shower for extra comfort ;)
So, no vans—at least not from the rental companies I’ve seen so far.
While browsing the forum, I came across the Chilean rental company Holiday Rent. But do you have any recommendations for Argentine rentals?
Because, if I can’t return the vehicle in the same city as pickup, I’d prefer—and it’d likely be cheaper—to at least return it in the same country.
I’m traveling through Argentina and Chile (as well as Paraguay and Uruguay) with a 2019 Toyota Hilux Euro 6. Could anyone tell me if the local diesel is suitable for its engine, or if I need to take any special precautions (like adding an additive, for example) for these countries?
I’d also like to know if driving at high altitudes is possible, and up to what elevation—or if I should worry about the vehicle going into limp mode?
If that happens, what should I do?
Hi there,
Can you tell me if the road between Zagora and M'Gouna is easy or difficult for a 4x4? How much time and how many kilometers should I plan for? I’m traveling in May.
Thanks!
