Je dois transporter trois vélos enfants, un vélo adulte et une "3e roue" (pliable) en plus des trois enfants, des deux adultes et des bagages dans une Citroën Berlingo sur 750 km.
J'hésite entre placer les vélos sur le toit ou sur le coffre, d'autant plus qu'aucune de ces solutions ne semblent pas adaptées a priori aux vélos pour enfants et à la 3e roue.
il faut une boule et que en installer une sur une voiture qui en est dépourvue, cela coûte très cher.
Entre le coût de l'installation d'une boule et le coût du Berlingo il n'y a pas photo. Pour ma part le préfère investir dans un attelage que de bousiller ma voiture. En effet un système d'attelage basique + coût de la pose env=à 100 à 150 euros (évidemment éviter les centre autos et les concessionnaires).
il faut une boule et que en installer une sur une voiture qui en est dépourvue, cela coûte très cher.
Entre le coût de l'installation d'une boule et le coût du Berlingo il n'y a pas photo. Pour ma part le préfère investir dans un attelage que de bousiller ma voiture. En effet un système d'attelage basique + coût de la pose env=à 100 à 150 euros (évidemment éviter les centre autos et les concessionnaires).
de plus en plus de porte velo se fixe sur une boule d'attelage c'est largement plus securitaire que les sangles sur le coffre surtout pour plusieurs velos
les portes velos plateforme sont les plus simples à utiliser car il est parfois difficile d'accrocher les velos sur ceux ci surtout pour les cadres enfants qui se sont pas longs
pour les prix on est encore loin des 1200 euros ....
avec plusiuers velos il faut souvent une solutions mixtes : porte velos + toit
De toute façon, quatre vélos + la 3e roue ne tiendront pas sur votre berlingot, donc il vous faudra bien investir sur autre chose , ou bien abandonner la solution vélos !
Poser un attelage , faire jouer la concurrence, voir ensuite pour les différents portes vélos sur rotule ( voir sur internet ), ou louer , ou se faire prêter une remorque pour les vacances. Peut être pourriez vous également vous faire prêter un porte vélo sur rotule. Mais , il semble qu'au départ , la pose d'une boule d'attelage serait le début de la solution....
Ou bien louer un utilitaire....
La location semble toute indiquée, d'autant que tu dois avoir pas mal de matériel à transporter ne plus de vos montures.
Si tu ne souhaites pas opter pour la location, l'attelage semble la meilleur solution pour un nombre aussi important de vélos; peut être à voir d'occasion et le faire monter chez un petit garagiste mais avec le poids et le déplacement du centre de gravité, ça risque de te coûter un train de pneu sur un long trajet.
Pour les portes vélo à sangles, j'ai en ai 1 monté sur l'équivalent du berlingo et bien qu'il soit conçu pour 4 vélos, je suis déjà moyennement serein sur les longues distances chargé à 2.
Je crois que finalement je vais opter pour un porte-vélo à placer sur le hayon pour les deux vélos les plus grand (adulte + 20 pouces enfant) et un coffre de toit où je placerai les bagages. Du coup je placerai les petits vélos dans le coffre.
Salut nesdnuma
T'as pensé a vérifier que tu ne dépassais pas le poids autorisé transportable, avec ton véhicule.
Parce que avec tout ce que tu dis devoir emmener , personnel compris , ça craint un peu .
Je ne sais pas si tu le sais, mais en France , pendant les vacances, les gendarmes contrôlent souvent ce genre de choses. Surtout en période de grands départs . Vaut mieux vérifier avant, non !
Bon voyage !
Possède seulement ce que tu peux transporter avec toi ;
Connais des langues, connais des pays, connais des personnes.
Laisse ta mémoire être ton sac de voyage ( Alexander Solzhenitsyn )
si c'est pour transporter tout cela une seule fois, je n'ai pas de solution. Par contre, si c'est pour une utilisation régulière (au moins une fois par an), voici ce que nous utilisons depuis cinq ans: une boule d'attelage, une remorque Saris (modèle Arba Classic) et cinq porte-vélos (thulé) montés sur le toit de la remorque. Bien sûr que tout cela coûte un os ! Mais quel plaisir, quel confort et quelle sécurité avec cet attelage dans la mesure où tout est bien réparti (les bagages dans la remorque) et bien fixé (les vélos). Nous nous sommes ainsi rendus en France, en Suisse, en Espagne, en Italie sans le moindre problème. Et la semaine prochaine, cap vers la Pologne et Berlin au retour.
Pour ma part, j'ai opté pour une boule et un porte-vélo sur la boule pour 4 vélos adultes.
Fiat Doblo avec un coffre un poil plus grand que le Berlingo que j'avais avant.
Deux adultes, deux jeunes (16 et 15 ans), et un enfant 7 ans.
Dans le coffre, tout le matériel pour trois semaines de voyage en autonomie, deux remorques (une plateau et une carriole), un coffre de rangement pour la remorque, deux tentes (une de 9 kg et une tente rando), un tricycle couché plié et démonté.
Sur la porte-vélo, un VTT 24 pouces, un VTT 26 pouces, un VTC 28 pouces et un vélo couché HPvélotechnik Spirit.
Le tout sans excédent de poids, et des pneus renofrcés bien évidemment.
En photo jointe, notre départ pour le Lac de Constance en Mai dernier :
Et une autre avec tout ce qu'il y avait dans la voiture :
C'est fou ce que l'on peut mettre dans un Doblo...
Je pense que tu dois pouvoir en faire autant avec ton Berlingo :
Exemple d'informations des caractéristiques d'un pneu , inscrites sur les flancs:
195-65 R 15 91H .
Mes pneus sont des 185-65 R 15 92T
195 = largeur de la bande de roulement = 195 mm
65 = pourcentage de la hauteur du pneu = 65% x 195 = 126,75 mm
R = carcasse radiale
15 = diamètre de jante = 15 pouces ( 411 mm )
91 = indice de charge ( croissant avec la charge)
H = indice de vitesse 180 km/h (croissant avec la vitesse)
Comme tu peux le voir, l'indice de charge est de 92 pour moi, cela correspond aux utilitaires et aux 4x4.
Les Picasso par exemple sont en 91 comme la majorité des voitures familiales.
Sur mon Doblo, comme sur mon ancien Berlingo, j'avais cette contrainte, c'est une obligation, il ne fait jamais mettre en dessous de la monte d'origine. En cas d'accident tu n'es pas remboursé.
Dans le cas de mon Doblo, c'est un 7 places d'où je pense l'obligation, pour le Berlingo, c'était un des tout premiers sans porte arrière...
Ces pneus sont donc plus chers mais j'avoue n'avoir jamais eu aucun souci avec (une crevaison en 1à ans).
Et le Berlingo était parfois très chargé.
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Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hello,
Has anyone here had experience using a gas stove in Sardinia and Sicily? I’m wondering if screw-on gas canisters (not the blue Campingaz ones, but brands like Coleman, Primus, etc.) are easy to find.
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August!
Virginie
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires.
I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time).
I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral.
I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough?
And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
After testing it for three years across various modes of transport, I’m sharing this video of a bike packing case. It’s made from recycled cardboard and shrink-wrapped, with adjustable thickness and added bubble wrap depending on the level of protection you want.
Installing spacers at the fork and chainstays makes the packaging compact. With the fifteen-odd euros for shrink-wrapping at the airport, this case travels really well.
https://youtu.be/_GDJi-GqmkM
- Low bulk (1.10m x 0.70m x 0.25m for a large frame), it fits vertically in train luggage compartments and the total dimensions (x+y+z) don’t exceed 2.40m.
- Two carrying solutions for public transport and easy handling by airport staff (no more tears in the cardboard from openings).
- Discreet packaging when dealing with bus drivers and train conductors, as it looks like an ordinary parcel.
- No need to return to the starting point to retrieve the case from your outbound trip, which you’d otherwise have to store somewhere, or deal with a bulky cover to pack in your panniers.
- You can still check tire pressure through the plastic film without damaging the packaging too much.
Drawbacks: Around 3 hours for this lengthy and meticulous process—removing the wheels, pedals, handlebars, and derailleur without misaligning them, then securing all components to the frame.
If you get a chance to test it, send me your feedback for future improvements.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam.
My question is about getting back to Nantes.
Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences.
I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes.
By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains.
We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance!
Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
I’m planning to build a new touring bike.
I want to prioritize lightness.
That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads.
The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper.
I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork.
Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm.
It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring.
And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear.
More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.
It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.
One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.
We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.
Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed
story being posted online soon
1100 km in 11 days
beautiful and varied regions
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena
vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes
Here are his travels
Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné
Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way
Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place
Rural and quite peaceful
A road cycling route created by Serge B...
First of all... happy New Year! Wishing you great roads in 2017!
I’ve been traveling for a few years now with a high-quality mountain bike, but it’s equipped with hydraulic disc brakes. I live (pedal) with the constant worry of a breakdown (leak, air bubble, heat causing the fluid to...). My bike mechanic tells me it’s impossible to switch them out for V-brakes.
What do you all think? Am I taking a big risk continuing (alone) with these brakes? Thanks in advance for your great tips!
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025.
It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border.
We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure!
Thanks in advance.