... je confirme : les cartes Olizane au 1/150000° sont très bien faites et suffisent largement à ton projet ...
... puisqu'on en parle, je suis à la recherche d'une carte topo exploitable pour la région qui part du Tsomoriri plein sud jusqu'à Kyber/Kaza (en dehors des cartes de l'armée américaine s/un site tchèque dont il est question plus haut ...)
... comme tu dis si bien : à voir sur le terrain ...
par expérience personnelle de cette région, je préfère avoir un petit topo avec moi que me fier aux indications de vieilles cartes approximatives : sur la partie qui m'intéresse, il y a tout de même un petit col avec glacier à 5600 m ...
Je n'ai pas de carte de ce coin, mais il me semble avoir en magasin un descriptif assez précis de trajet de trek entre tso moriri et kaza (avec carto faite à la main). Si ça t'intéresse, je peux vérifier et te faire parvenir ça. Enfin, si ça correspond au parcours que tu veux faire : l'ennui avec les descriptifs de trek, c'est qu'on a le trajet précis, et rien autour...
Tu as effectivement tout compris, et dans ce genre de coin comme tu le sais, rien ne ressemble plus à un chemin qu'un autre chemin, à un col qu'un autre col, ... et à une vallée qu'une autre vallée !
... et c'est comme ça qu'on se retrouve avec une rallonge de 2 jours de marche prévus ni dans l'itinéraire ni dans le calendrier !
Mon chemin sur cette partie-là du trek est très classique :
Kyangdam (village sud Tsomoriri) puis 3 jours et 3 camps dans la vallée de la Parang Chu (Norbu Sumdo, Gyapshanglung et Tarang Yongma) avant de franchir le Parang La et redescendre vers Jukstak, Dumla, Kyber et Kaza ...
Si ce que tu as te paraît plus exploitable que la carte NI 44-13 des séries U502 de l'armée US, dis-moi en messages privés sous quel format tu peux me l'envoyer et je t'enverrai mes coordonnées ...
Bonjour à tous,
je viens peut etre trop tard pour cette discussion, mais je peux vous renseigner sur le trek tso morriri kibber
je l'ai fait l'an passé. A Leh on me l'avait décris comme l'un des plus beaux à faire, et force est de constater que c'est incroyable
l'arrivée sur kibber est gravée dans ma mémoire a tout jamais
alors comment faire tout ca
je l'ai fait avec deux autre personne que j'ai rencontré à leh, donc on était trois, avec deux muletiers, cook... et 4 chevaux
petite caravane trop sympa ralié au bout de deux jours par un vieux nomades qui allait vendre sa laine dans la vallé
il faut environ huit jours pour faire le trek
départ de Korzok, un jour de marche en longeant le lac pour arrivé a kiangdom, puis ca part pour 4 jours de marche tranquille, à plat, en montant réguliérement mais pas de gros dénivéllé ( 4600m -> 5200m), attention, des gués à franchir donc impossible de les passer le soir, d'ou certaines fois des étape courtes (4h) mais pas possible des les doubler
puis ensuite le 6 eme jour c'est la parang la, mieux vaut pas le faire avant le 14 juillet kan meme ( se renseigner sur l'enneigment) départ super tot ( 4h du mat), sur les topos ils est annoncés comme glaciers mais aucun problème pas besoin de matos spécifiques, chaussur de montagne suffisent
puis redescente sur kibber tres facile, passage dans un canyon incroyable, est arrivé sur le spiti, so beatiful,
on peut finir le trek en autant de jour que l'on veut puisqu'il y a des villages
par contre de korzok jusqu'au passage de parang la, autonomie complete obligée
tsampa et thé suffiront!!!
enfin je raconte ca vite fait, dsl,
ms si vous voulez des infos, des photos, ....
hésitez pas, j'aurais plus de temps ds la soirée
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francois
Alors si j'ai une petite carte ou il y a tout les itinéraires de treks, mais vraiment pa détaillé, c'est une carte qui est vendu dans leh avec un guide . Mais il y a un petit topo qui est assez explicatif, je vais essayer de te le scanner si tu veux et de le mettre en ligne. Ca indique vite fait sur quel versant il faut marcher, ou traverser les gués de la meilleure manière ...
Sinon, il faut voir comment tu veux faire le trek. Seul ou avec des chevaux et des horses mans?
Je pense que c'est vraiment plus intéréssant de partir avec des chevaux, contact plus faciles avec les nomades...
Par contre, a tout prix éviter les anes ( plus petit, donc plus de mal à traversé les rivières...) enfin je ne sais pas si tu as déja fait des treks au ladakh ou ailleurs de cette facon mais c tjs les memes précautions à prendre.
Je pense qu'il n'est pas nécéssaire de passer par une agence de voyage. Si tu as un peu de temps, il faut aller à Korzok et à partir de la bas traiter avec des gens locaux pour qu'il trouve des chevaux et des horse mans. Il n'y a pas besoin de guide selon moi ni de cook. Les cooks mans sont souvent géniaux, ils se débrouillent bien, connaissent parfaitement l'itinéraire. Par contre c'est à toi de monter la tente, de faire la vaisselle, chacun participe. Enfin je considère cette option bien mieux que d'etre assisté et ne rien faire pendant 8 jours. A noter, les étapes peuvent paraitre tres courtes ( 4-5h par jour jamais plus) mais en plus du prolème des gués, il ne faut pas négliger l'altitude. Meme avec une tres bonne acclimatation, il ne faut pas trop en faire pour etre en forme au moment du passage du col.
Je m'égare un peu
Donc à Korzok demander des horses et des horses man, le tarif est d'environ 200 Rs par jour et par chevaux, donc c'est vraiment rien comparé a ce que demanderais une agence de voyage. Ensuite il faut acheter soi meme la nouriture et un cooker et hop c'est parti.
Point important, bien fixé les conditions avec les horse men pour le retour
en effet eux ils faut qu'il retourne sur Korzok ensuite. Souvent ils te font payer deux jours supplémentaires memes si ils ne reviennent pas à vide.
Les nuits sont assez fraiches en été, mais c vraiment génial, en plus ce trek est proposé nulle part, dc vraiment seuls au monde, tu croise des nomades et leur troupeaux de yaks, une tente une famille et pres de 200 chèvres.... un régal
Encore une chose
Pour aller à Korzok, les jeeps prennent pres de 6000 RS pour une jeep, a partager selon le nombre de passager. Mais contrairement à ce qui est écrit sur certains guide, il y a bien des bus qui vont à Korzok.
Les bus partent de Leh le 1, le 10 et le 20 de chaque mois, c 200Rs l'aller. Et c'est génial!!!! Pour ceux qui veulent juste voir Tso Moriri, ils repartent de Korzok le lendemain donc ca laisse le temps de passer l'apres midi au lac et la nuit la bas, c'est une solution.
Donc je conseille le bus pour aller à Korzok, par ailleurs, il y a aussi des guest house a korzok, spous forme de tentes collectives, 50 RS la nuit, des grosse couvertures toute chaudes, tu mange tes noodles au lit.....hum
A raconter tout ca j'y retournerais bien ce soir!!!!
Bref, posez des questions, c'est un plaisir de partager tout ca
Je joint quelques photos, dans l'ordre, le camping au bord du lac a kiangdom, la remontée dans le vallée avant parang la, les drapeux a prière à 5800m et enfin le bijoux de gompa à Ki en dessous de Kibber
d'ailleurs, je ne vous parle meme pas du spiti car il me faudrai encore cinq pages pour décrire combien c'est beau la bas!!
... pour le descriptif scanné, je t'envoie mon adresse e-mail en messages privés (voir "mes messages privés" en haut d'écran sous le bandeau VoyageForum, et à côté de Mon profil) ...
... pour l'organisation sur place, tout est déjà prévu : nous faisons le maximum par nous-mêmes hors agence et serons partis à pied d'Hémis 15 jours plus tôt avec muletier, chevaux, matériel et toute la bouffe pour un début de trek du côté de la Markha puis descente plein sud vers le Yar La avant remontée nord/nord-est vers Spanchen, Thukje, le Tso Kar et le Tso Moriri ...
Salut
Non finalement je ne suis pas allée ds le Ladakh car apparemment en mai toutes les pistes de trek n'étaient pas encore ouvertes. Pa contre, je suis allée dans le Sikkim, petite enclave entre le Nepal, la Chine et le Bouthan. Magnifique! Je te le recommande. C'est un endroit très préservé, la nature à l'état pure. Tu te promènes ds les rizières, la petite jungle, les champs de maïs, les bambous, les rhododendrons, ... je ne suis pas montée au-delà de 3000m parce que je n'étais pas équipée mais il y a vraiment de super treks à faire!
Bon voyage
Dey
Bonjour.
Merci pour le tuyau. J'ai effectivement lu que le Sikkim est un endroit lui aussi extraordinaire.
Personnellement, après le Ladakh, j'irai cherché un autre coin "typé" mais différent, pour changer.
Following your recommendations, I’m starting this thread because I’m planning to do the Central Circuit in 5 days in the Rwenzori Mountains, aiming to reach Margherita Peak.
I’ve been in touch with Rwenzori Mountaineering Services, who’ve offered me a deal for $1300 with 2 guides, 1 cook, and 3 porters.
A bank transfer is required upfront.
I’d love to hear from anyone who’s done this trek or others in these mountains.
Hi everyone, we’re traveling by bike, but the same question comes up for hiking: what simple products can we find in towns or villages to eat/cook and get enough nutrition for physical effort, all while keeping costs affordable? Otherwise, where can we find inexpensive dietary supplements? Since I’m on cortisone, I have to be careful about what I eat. Thanks in advance, Aichatou
I know there are plenty of discussions on VF about the Poon Hill trek, but most seem outdated and/or don’t provide info specific to February. That’s why I’m bringing this topic back up.
Here’s my plan:
- Spending about two weeks in Nepal in the first half of February.
- Maybe extending by a few days to a week if needed.
- Heading to Pokhara—first time for my partner, second for me (I was there in September/October 1982!).
- Doing a relatively easy 4- to 5-day trek. We’re not exactly spring chickens anymore (though we’re in pretty good shape for our age).
- We don’t want to go above 3,000–3,500 meters, deal with difficult sections if there’s too much snow, or face daytime temperatures below 10°C. No problem if it drops to 0–5°C at night since we’ll be sheltered somewhere.
So, I’m wondering if the Mardi Himal trek might be too demanding for us, and if we’d be better off sticking with Poon Hill.
What do the experts think?
We're planning to go at the end of November/beginning of December to visit (with a rental car) and hike on La Palma and El Hierro for 15 full days, including 1 day for inter-island ferry transfers. What’s the best split between the two islands—8 days on La Palma and 6 on El Hierro, or even more time for La Palma? Should we have one or two home bases on La Palma? Thanks for your tips!
Annie
Hi there,
I’m looking for a family-run guesthouse in Cachaco. I read that the Monte Gordo guide service provides addresses. Does anyone have any guesthouse addresses or contact info for the natural park’s visitor center?
Thanks
Hi there,
We’re planning an 8-day backpacking trip on the island of São Nicolau. We’re torn between taking the boat from São Vicente or an inter-island flight. I’ve heard the boats don’t always run?
We’d like to make three homestay stops to travel in a star pattern from each of the three points.
First stop around Juncalinho, second stop near Cachaco, and finally a third leg near Tarrafal. We’re looking for simple but authentic guesthouses (no hotels). Any suggestions?
Thanks
Hello,
In mid-November, we’ll be in Mindelo and Santo Antão.
We’ve booked transportation with Kapverden Tours.
One trip is from Porto Novo to Ponta do Sol, including the hike from Corda to Coculi.
What’s the trail like?
Then we’ll be staying in Ponta do Sol,
Here’s what we’re planning:
A hike to Fontainhas—what’s the best direction, considering we’re not great with climbs? No problem with flat terrain or descents.
Take an aluguer to Ribeira Grande and continue along the coastal road.
With the agency:
An excursion to Cruzinha with a short walk.
Return to Porto Novo via the path from Cova to… I’m not sure where yet, to pick up the car for Porto Novo, since we’ll be taking the ferry that evening.
We’ll have a guide for this hike.
We’d love to spend a day in Tarrafal, but getting back requires a boat or taxi, and it’s really expensive!
We’re a couple, 78 and 76 years old.
What do you think of this itinerary?
I’m planning to do the Mercantour crossing following the Randoxygène route in mid-July.
I’m used to hiking in the mountains, but I sometimes get vertigo, for example on ridges with drops on both sides. I wanted to check if there are any T4 or T3-T4 sections and find out if there are any very exposed passages—and if so, where—so I can plan an alternative route.
Can anyone give me some info on this?
Thanks!
hi how can I get internet when I arrive at Haneda? I mean in areas without free wifi. Is it more interesting to buy a SIM card? If so, at the airport? thanks for your help
Hi there,
I’m planning to cross the Gourgs Blancs Pass at the end of the month, from La Soula Refuge to Portillon Refuge. On this section near the pass, I don’t have any trail marked on my IGN map. Is the path well signposted, or should I use a compass?
Also, beyond the physical effort, are there any technical, exposed, or vertigo-inducing sections on this part?
Since I’m finding very little info, I’m being thorough with my questions.
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Not very well known: Hokkaido Island has national parks that rival those in North America. Hiking there is free (even many mountain huts) and requires no formalities. These treks are described in the LP *Hiking in Japan* guide—you can just buy the Hokkaido PDF. It’s way better than Mount Fuji. Of course, everything depends on the weather, which is very unstable in the Japanese mountains (frequent strong winds). The trails are often obstacle courses.
The Daisetsu Zan traverse is a stunning hike through volcanic terrain with a remote section in the middle that requires at least one night of camping (there are basic huts for the rest, which is popular with Japanese hikers): 4 to 6 days.
The Shiretoko traverse takes 2 days with views including an island in Russia, but the ridge is brown bear territory—there are even more here than in Denali National Park in Alaska (brown bears and grizzlies are the same). I ran into 7 in just 6 hours of hiking!
Hi everyone,
I’m leaving on Monday, August 3rd for my very first long-distance trek: the GR223 from Coutances to Mont Saint-Michel, over 6-7 days (~11-14 miles/day), solo.
I’m looking for tips from people who know this section well (Coutances → Regnéville-sur-Mer → Hauteville-sur-Mer → Bréhal → Granville → Genêts → bay crossing):
Budget-friendly accommodations: I’m struggling to find affordable stopover lodgings (a lot of what I find online are expensive vacation rentals, not really suited for a solo hiker). If you have any great spots (hostels, hiker-friendly B&Bs, nice campgrounds), I’d love to hear them!
Bay crossing: Any feedback on guides/providers leaving from Genêts for the final crossing?
General tips for a first long-distance trek: What you wish you’d known before your first time, pitfalls to avoid, etc.
Hi,
We’re planning to do the 4-day trek from Mestia to Ushguli without an agency. The descriptions mention that there are accommodations at each stop, but we can’t find any details about them. Has anyone got info or feedback on this route?
New to this forum, I’m planning a pretty big project for 2028.
I’m heading to Nepal to do a trek from Kathmandu all the way to Everest Base Camp (a cool 5,300 m 😄).
This trek is a bit special because even though I’ll be part of a group, I’m going solo (so far, no problem—I’m used to it). But it’s my first real trek, and it’s also a humanitarian one: once I reach base camp, I’ll stay an extra week to help clean up the waste left by tens of thousands of climbers! Since I’m originally from South America, from two countries that share the Andes, I have a deep respect for mountains—they fascinate me. So Everest… it’s kind of the trip of a lifetime!
So, a little question for those who’ve done treks to Everest before… any tips for good mental preparation (I’m already working on the physical side)?
We're planning to trek in Peru and Bolivia and would love to find some local agencies.
If you know any, could you share details on prices and, of course, the names of the agencies?
Which trek would you recommend?
Elocine
I'm heading out on a fully self-sufficient trek in Morocco (10 days) from Imilchil to Aghbalou.
Can I find screw-on gas canisters (Coleman, Primus) in Marrakech (any addresses?) or in villages between Imilchil and Aghbalou?
If not, are Butagaz canisters for camping gas (small 230g size) available?
Thanks in advance for your tips!
Hello, I’d like to embark on a little trip in my home country, Switzerland. I’ll start walking from La Cure, heading toward Le Noirmont first, then I’ll improvise my route—but it’ll probably follow the French border... at least as far as Lac de Joux.
I’ll decide day by day how much farther to go after that. My goal is to stay in nature as much as possible, wander around for as long as I can, and restock food in villages or towns along the way.
I’m thinking of mostly camping, but we’ll see if I end up in a hotel or another campsite depending on my route.
I’d love to reach La Chaux-de-Fonds on foot... maybe even Delémont.
The whole thing should take about a week, give or take.
I’ll be bringing my dog, and I’m preparing for this as soon as I’m ready.
Any tips to make sure everything goes smoothly for us? Things I should know—or avoid? What about shepherds with their flocks of sheep? And isn’t hunting season open right now?
I’m not sure if what I’m planning is even doable, which is why I’m asking around.
This’ll be my first time doing something like this—wandering in nature *and* with a dog. I’m really excited for this adventure... and I need it. Thanks!
We’re really keen on ecosystems and want to hike in "natural" ancient forests—not planted woods or areas heavily degraded by human activity. Travel guides (like Lonely Planet) don’t provide much info on this. Could you point us to the most interesting spots?
Thanks in advance for your tips.
We wish you happy holidays and a fantastic 2026, full of discoveries!
Claire and Albert
Hi, this might not be the right section, but I’d like to know if it’s possible to start mountaineering with another person without necessarily hiring a guide. We’ve done quite a bit of hiking but not mountaineering—we’ll just do a half-day glacier course. After that, we were thinking of starting with La Grande Motte and the Pointe de la Traversière, which were recommended to us. Honestly, for things like roping up and knots, I’ll learn at home with lots of videos and a book.
I’d love to know if anyone has done treks in the Rwenzori Mountains and how much it costs on average, what the infrastructure is like, the landscapes, and safety in the area. Thanks so much! I’m really looking forward to your replies.
We’re leaving in 9 days for a two-week trip to Madeira, mainly to hike.
From my research, I’ve found that since last year, access to most trails—and systematically for the most popular ones—is now paid. You have to pay an access fee of 4.50 € per person per classified hike in 2026, and even 10.50 € for the most iconic hike: Pico Arieiro to Pico Ruivo. When paying, you also have to choose a day and a 30-minute time slot for your start time. Of course, this reservation is neither changeable nor refundable, even if the weather that day is terrible.
Personally, given the massive influx of tourists to the island in recent years, I don’t mind paying a fee to help maintain the trails. Similarly, setting a limit on the number of people who can hike them per day is certainly preferable to preserve this priceless heritage.
However, what’s much less fair is that in reality, most of the available spots are reserved: 1/ for Madeira residents (which is normal); 2/ for "economic operators" (meaning local tour operators). For example, if you’re a non-resident (independent tourist), no booking is possible for the Pico Arieiro hike for an early morning start before September! So, unfortunately, we’ll have to skip this hike.
It’s the same issue for Ponta de São Lourenço, the 25 Fontes, Pico Ruivo... in short, all the most popular hikes. Oh well, we’ll skip those too!
So my question is: which hikes do you recommend where we won’t face the huge crowds that the others get? And where we can book the day before for the next day, taking the weather into account?
Finally, a quick accommodation question: we’ve booked the first week in Funchal, but I haven’t decided yet for the second week. Do you have any advice on where to stay in the south or north, preferably avoiding overly concrete-heavy and touristy spots?
I’m reposting about the logistics for Samaria Gorge.
I’d love to get recent info, especially about whether it’s possible to park my car in Omalos, do the hike, and then catch a bus back to my vehicle.
In theory, it’s doable, but when you check the KTEL website, there aren’t any feasible schedules listed. If anyone has recently organized this with reliable, verified details, I’d really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
We’re flying from Montreal to Lyon this August to go hiking in the French Alps. We’ve rented a car and will be staying at campgrounds. We’re planning to do day hikes and want to stay a few days in one spot, do a few hikes, then move on to our next camping spot. Could you share your favorite spots or any recommendations for places to spend a few days with great hikes?
A few details:
We arrive in early August and leave in early September.
We’re looking for day hikes (or shorter), moderate difficulty, with a cumulative elevation gain of no more than 1000m, and of course, beautiful scenery!
We’d prefer not to drive too much—maybe it’s best not to head too far south and deal with unnecessary heat?
Along the same lines, if you know of any great campgrounds where we can start our hike directly without needing the car, we’d love to hear your suggestions!
Hi there,
I’m planning to go hiking on this island and would like to know the best time to do it. I visited for a few days in November 2018—not for hiking but just to explore—and the weather wasn’t great, especially in the mountains. So, is a star-shaped itinerary doable if I rent a car and maybe use two different accommodations?
I’m not planning to join an organized group—just traveling with one other person and organizing things ourselves—unless you’d recommend a local agency or guide. Finally, even though I’ll be getting maps, a topo guide, and a GPS, I’d really appreciate your top hiking recommendations.
Thanks so much for your tips!
I’m planning a trip around Cap Corse and the AGRIATES in 2026, from May 8th to 15th (there are still 2 spots left, by the way! Just DM me if you're interested).
I’d love to know which hikes are worth prioritizing in the AGRIATES. We’ll be staying in SALECCIA for two days as our base—what should we focus on from there?
A round trip to IGNHU beach? Any other suggestions?
For Ostricano, I think it’s too far for a round trip...
Thanks for your tips!
Have a great day,
Anie, Toulouse
I’d like to get some info about the GR10 Pyrenees traverse. I need help planning the daily stages and accommodations—my wife isn’t an experienced hiker but walks a lot, so I’d like to schedule shorter walking days and thus a longer overall trip in terms of number of days.
Could anyone give me some help and advice?
Best regards,
