Voyage à Berlin avec un passeport périmé? (urgent)
by Clemouberlin
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Salut a tous j'ai lu bien des messages sur le sujet mais rien ne collais vraiment a mon cas !
Voici mon problème :
Y'a 4 jours je prend un billet pour Berlin ( voyage prévu depuis 6 mois avec d amis )
Je me rend compte que mon passeport est périmée depuis 1 an et j'ai jamais eu de carte d'identité ( j'ai 19 ans, on s'en fou mais je précise ) je vais dans plusieurs préfecture tout le blabla demande de carte mais elle arrivera au plus tôt le 23 juin or je pars le 14 dans 10 jours.
Je peux passer avec mon passeport périmée ou bien on m'as parler d'un justificatif d'identité qui pourrait marcher mais je ne sais pas comment l'obtenir aidez moi svp. Énorme stress.
un passeport périmé de -5 ans suffit
pour rentrer dallemagne je pense que oui !malheureusement pour y aller ils sont hyper chiants au niveau des papiers appremment mais c'est l'UE punaiiiiiiise
et il y a beaucoup trop dargent en jeu pour que je prenne le risque de me toler a orly :(
normalement il n'y a pas de problème administrativement, mais c'est simplement la compagnie Air Berlin qui peut être tâtonnant.
le mieux c'est demander à l'ambassade : 28 Rue Marbeau 75116 Paris, France +33 1 53 83 45 00
le mieux c'est demander à l'ambassade : 28 Rue Marbeau 75116 Paris, France +33 1 53 83 45 00
Bonsoir,
A Roissy, une amie s'est vue refuser l'embarquement pour Milan, pour cause de carte d'identité périmée. 🤪 Un passeport peut se faire en une semaine. Choisir la mairie qui va bien. 🙂
A Roissy, une amie s'est vue refuser l'embarquement pour Milan, pour cause de carte d'identité périmée. 🤪 Un passeport peut se faire en une semaine. Choisir la mairie qui va bien. 🙂
Les concours photos VF
ok merci bcp je les appelerai *je croise les doigts*
arfffff jai fais une demande de carte didentité car on mas dis que cetait plus rapide malheuresement la nana qui me recevait mas dis quil etait impossible que je l'ai dans les delais ( dossier hyper complet avec billet davion et tout le tintouin )
je suis desesperee si je suis seule a ne pas reussir a passer mes amis vont etre bloqué... et je perdrai 470 euros impossibleeee ! je suis sure quil existe une solution mais easy jet est vrmt une compagnie hyper stricte😕
je suis desesperee si je suis seule a ne pas reussir a passer mes amis vont etre bloqué... et je perdrai 470 euros impossibleeee ! je suis sure quil existe une solution mais easy jet est vrmt une compagnie hyper stricte😕
Désolé pr vous mais si vous voyagez avec Easyjet le controle de la piece d identite est la norme.
En l occurence ca ne passera pas pour vous si vous ne faites pas refaire vos papiers d ici là....🤪
de toute façon allez à l'aéroport vous verrez. au pire faites le voyage en train et retrouvez vos amis à Berlin ensuite
Désolé pr vous mais si vous voyagez avec Easyjet le controle de la piece d identite est la norme.
En l occurence ca ne passera pas pour vous si vous ne faites pas refaire vos papiers d ici là....🤪
Pas tout à fait exact. Easyjet accepte les passeports échus de - de 5 ans ou une CI en cours de validité pour un vol dans l'UE.
Pas tout à fait exact. Easyjet accepte les passeports échus de - de 5 ans ou une CI en cours de validité pour un vol dans l'UE.
Faby
Avec quelle compagnie voyages-tu ?
Si c'est Easyjet, tu n'as pas de soucis à te faire, ton passeport est ok même s'il est échu depuis 1 an.
Si c'est une autre compagnie, vérifie auprès d'eux.
Faby
Avec quelle compagnie voyages-tu ?
Si c'est Easyjet, tu n'as pas de soucis à te faire, ton passeport est ok même s'il est échu depuis 1 an.
Si c'est une autre compagnie, vérifie auprès d'eux.
Etes-vous sur de ce que vous avancez?
en lisant les CGV d'Easyjet:
"13.1.3 Tous vols internationaux Les obligations documentaires pour les passagers à bord de Vols internationaux (y compris au sein de l’UE) sont un passeport valide ou, dans certaines circonstances, une carte d’identité nationale, à condition qu’elle soit complétée par un autre document officiel telle que des visas, le cas échéant. Un passeport expiré ne constitue un document d’identité valide à bord d’aucun Vol international."
Etes-vous sur de ce que vous avancez?
en lisant les CGV d'Easyjet:
"13.1.3 Tous vols internationaux Les obligations documentaires pour les passagers à bord de Vols internationaux (y compris au sein de l’UE) sont un passeport valide ou, dans certaines circonstances, une carte d’identité nationale, à condition qu’elle soit complétée par un autre document officiel telle que des visas, le cas échéant. Un passeport expiré ne constitue un document d’identité valide à bord d’aucun Vol international."
en lisant les CGV d'Easyjet:
"13.1.3 Tous vols internationaux Les obligations documentaires pour les passagers à bord de Vols internationaux (y compris au sein de l’UE) sont un passeport valide ou, dans certaines circonstances, une carte d’identité nationale, à condition qu’elle soit complétée par un autre document officiel telle que des visas, le cas échéant. Un passeport expiré ne constitue un document d’identité valide à bord d’aucun Vol international."
Ceci est incorrect car si tu voyages dans l'UE, une CI (de n'importe quel pays de l'UE) en cours de validité sera toujours suffisante, sans nul besoin d'un Visa. Dans certains pays hors UE on peut aussi voyager avec une CI uniquement, à condition d'avoir acheté un pack (vol + hôtel).
J'ai vécu cette situation il y 2 ou 3 ans pour un vol sur Barcelone. Sur mon billet d'avion il était clairement indiqué la validité d'un passeport expiré depuis moins de 5 ans. Et l'administration suisse me l'avait confirmé à l'époque.
Les conditions peuvent toutefois avoir changé depuis, en effet. Essaye tout de même de vérifier si ton e-ticket ne mentionne pas qqch à ce sujet (c'est dans le bla bla que peu de personnes se donnent souvent la peine de lire).
"13.1.3 Tous vols internationaux Les obligations documentaires pour les passagers à bord de Vols internationaux (y compris au sein de l’UE) sont un passeport valide ou, dans certaines circonstances, une carte d’identité nationale, à condition qu’elle soit complétée par un autre document officiel telle que des visas, le cas échéant. Un passeport expiré ne constitue un document d’identité valide à bord d’aucun Vol international."
Ceci est incorrect car si tu voyages dans l'UE, une CI (de n'importe quel pays de l'UE) en cours de validité sera toujours suffisante, sans nul besoin d'un Visa. Dans certains pays hors UE on peut aussi voyager avec une CI uniquement, à condition d'avoir acheté un pack (vol + hôtel).
J'ai vécu cette situation il y 2 ou 3 ans pour un vol sur Barcelone. Sur mon billet d'avion il était clairement indiqué la validité d'un passeport expiré depuis moins de 5 ans. Et l'administration suisse me l'avait confirmé à l'époque.
Les conditions peuvent toutefois avoir changé depuis, en effet. Essaye tout de même de vérifier si ton e-ticket ne mentionne pas qqch à ce sujet (c'est dans le bla bla que peu de personnes se donnent souvent la peine de lire).
Faby
Merci de prendre la peine de me répondre !!
Il n'y a que des avis contradictoires ..^^
Qui croire ? Héhé
Bonjour,
Comme il t'a été dit, cela ne coûte (presque) rien d'aller à l'aéroport et d'essayer. J'ai déjà pris l'avion pour Berlin sans aucun papier d'identité, ni CNI ni passeport -méme périmé. Coup de chance sans doute mais je suis passée. J'ai pris mon air le plus malheureux.
Comme il t'a été dit, cela ne coûte (presque) rien d'aller à l'aéroport et d'essayer. J'ai déjà pris l'avion pour Berlin sans aucun papier d'identité, ni CNI ni passeport -méme périmé. Coup de chance sans doute mais je suis passée. J'ai pris mon air le plus malheureux.
Bluequark
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Carnets : Namibie, Laos-Perhentias-BKK, Ouest US, Lanzarote, New-York, Berlin, Cuba, Bardenas Reales, AFS -Lesotho-Swaziland, Japon et le dernier né Colombie: https://voyageforum.com/discussion/ete-2017-trois-semaines-en-colmobie-en-famille-d10108246/
La Suisse fait donc partie de l UE si je suis ton raisonnement.
Et y a si peu de soucis a se faire qu aucun souciS....me laisse perplexe....😠
La personne qui pose la question semble être française. Cela s'applique donc à elle.
De plus, la Suisse faisant partie de Schengen, les Suisses peuvent en effet sans autre voyager dans toute l'UE avec leur CI. Quant aux passeports suisses, ils bénéficient du même traitement que les passeports européens, dans bcp de pays du monde, dont entre autres ceux de l'UE.
Voilà pour les précisions.
De plus, la Suisse faisant partie de Schengen, les Suisses peuvent en effet sans autre voyager dans toute l'UE avec leur CI. Quant aux passeports suisses, ils bénéficient du même traitement que les passeports européens, dans bcp de pays du monde, dont entre autres ceux de l'UE.
Voilà pour les précisions.
Faby
Reprends en main ton e-ticket et lis toutes les conditions, ça devrait être marqué.
Faby
Si je reprends les fait : cette personne est Française et se rend en Allemagne (donc vol international). Elle n’a pas de carte d’identité mais uniquement un passeport périmé.
Le problème n’est pas tant de pouvoir aller en Allemagne (espace Schengen) avec un passeport périmé, mais de pouvoir embarquer avec Easyjet en ayant un document d’identité non valide.
Donc la seule source d’information objective qui fasse foi sont les conditions de transport d’Easyjet qui demandent une pièce d’identité valide pour les vols internationaux. Donc pour moi, il y a un réel risque de ne pas pouvoir embarquer.
Maintenant, la personne peut toujours tenter sa chance…
Pour l’anecdote, j’ai fait un Paris-Mulhouse en 2004 en ayant oublié tous mes papiers chez moi et j’ai pu embarquer en présentant la carte de membre de mon club de sport (seul document en ma possession sur lequel il y avait ma photo). Il a fallu négocier un peu et c’était un vol domestique, mais je crois surtout que j’ai eu beaucoup de chance.
Le problème n’est pas tant de pouvoir aller en Allemagne (espace Schengen) avec un passeport périmé, mais de pouvoir embarquer avec Easyjet en ayant un document d’identité non valide.
Donc la seule source d’information objective qui fasse foi sont les conditions de transport d’Easyjet qui demandent une pièce d’identité valide pour les vols internationaux. Donc pour moi, il y a un réel risque de ne pas pouvoir embarquer.
Maintenant, la personne peut toujours tenter sa chance…
Pour l’anecdote, j’ai fait un Paris-Mulhouse en 2004 en ayant oublié tous mes papiers chez moi et j’ai pu embarquer en présentant la carte de membre de mon club de sport (seul document en ma possession sur lequel il y avait ma photo). Il a fallu négocier un peu et c’était un vol domestique, mais je crois surtout que j’ai eu beaucoup de chance.
En cas de doute, le train est peut-être la meilleur solution.
Mon blog à Berlin
https://aberlin.fr
C clair malheureusement je n'aurai pa de quoi acheter un billet de train
Donc pa de vacaciones !:(
Oui il faut une pièce d'identité valide.
Un passeport périmé depuis moins de 5 ans fait office de pièce d'identité pour aller à Berlin pas de problème si tu es Française.
Tu en es sur ??? ( espoiiiiiir :D )
En fait il y a des compagnies aériennes qui exigent un passeport ou C.I en cours de validité comme easyjet, je ne sais pas avec quelle compagnie tu
pars mais le mieux est de leur téléphoner et c'est pour cela que certaines personnes vont te dire que c'est ok et d'autres non.
Remarque ça t'aura servi de leçon pour la prochaine fois et j'espère que tu pourras partir quand même, tiens nous au courant.
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Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Some French friends are visiting NYC (4/5 days around mid-May) from Montreal, Canada. They’ve got their eTA and ESTA approved!
Round-trip transport by bus.
Question: Is the I-94 form required, mandatory, and should it be filled out on the bus or in advance???
Thanks for your RECENT experiences!
See you, Jean.
Hello,
We’ll soon be moving to Madagascar long-term.
As a French national, I need to obtain a short-stay visa that can be converted to a long-stay one. To do this, I have to send the required documents to the Madagascar embassy in Paris.
No issues with that procedure so far.
If I get this visa, once I arrive in Madagascar, I’ll need to provide the same documents to the Ministry of the Interior in Anosy. I’m trying to find an email address or website for the Ministry to check which documents I need to submit (I think they ask for additional ones).
If you have any info on this, I’d appreciate your replies.
Best regards,
M. Buisson Eric
Hi there,
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I’d like to know if anyone has already applied for a private visa to Russia with an invitation from a Russian resident. I traveled earlier this year with an e-visa, but since I want to stay longer, I’ll be visiting my friend who lives in eastern Russia. For the visa application, does the invitation need to be on an official paper form issued by the Russian ministry? And most importantly, do I need to present the original for the application, or is there an electronic version that can be sent directly to the consulate in France? Thanks for any info if you’ve gone through this process before!
Best regards,
Gilles
I filled out the B2 form to apply for a visa, created an account on Atvis to pay the visa fees and schedule a meet-up, but every time I try to pay with my Boursobank Visa 1st card, they refuse the payment with a message telling me to check my details (address), even though everything is correct. Does anyone know why this is happening, or maybe they don’t accept Visa cards? Are you aware of this?
Thanks for your feedback!
Elisabeth
Hi,
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
There are rumors going around about the ETA: it must absolutely be on your smartphone in the "ETA" app.
Paper documents might not be accepted. Is this real or just a hoax? Thanks, I’m leaving in 3 weeks. My passport is good to go and my ETA is still valid for a year, but I only printed the email I received. Thanks everyone.
Hi there,
We need to apply for a B2 visa because we visited Iran in 2018. It currently costs $185, but they’re planning an additional $250 fee per person for the same visa—it’s been approved but not yet implemented. Does anyone know when this fee will take effect?
Thanks in advance!
Elisabeth
Hi there,
In November, we're heading off on a 4-month trip. We'll be landing in China and plan to leave the country via a land border into Vietnam.
I’ve read that China may ask for proof of exit within 30 days (flight ticket or other reservation). Since we’d be leaving by land, I’m wondering how this works in practice.
Has anyone here been in this situation recently?
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Did the airline ask for an exit ticket before boarding? Did Chinese authorities require proof upon arrival? Is a train/bus ticket to Vietnam sufficient? Is a cancelable or flexible reservation accepted?
Thanks for sharing your experiences! 😊
Hi there,
Just a question that’s probably been asked before (though usually the other way around for my situation :))
My wife and I are heading to the US.
On her ticket, it only has her maiden name (e.g., Martine DUPOND).
On her passport, it’s written as Martine DUPOND épouse AVRY.
No issues for travel, I hope I did the right thing with the ticket?
Then for the ESTA, is just Martine DUPOND enough, or do I need to include the "épouse AVRY" part like on the passport?
Thanks in advance!
Hi there,
I’m spending a few days in San Pedro de Atacama (Chile) and would like to cross the Argentine border to make a loop toward Salta and then return to Chile to drop off the rental car.
I’ve heard that crossing the border can be tricky!
Is it possible with a rental company’s authorization? Which company, and at what cost?
Thanks for sharing your experiences!
Best regards,
Arnale





