What's the best touring mountain bike for a woman?
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My partner wants to change her touring bike because it’s not quite the right size for her. We don’t want touring bikes that are too heavy. Travel shouldn’t mean hardship—it’s not a punishment. I’ve had just one bike myself: a Specialized mountain bike for ages, with plastic mudguards, and I’ve ridden through 14 countries with it, plus our weekend trips. It’s super sturdy. My wife would like a mountain bike that’s lightweight but tough enough to add a rack, with a rigid front fork, 26 inches, smooth-rolling, not too expensive, and that’s about it. Anyone have good feedback or recommendations on a brand? Thanks
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CB Cbandiera Globetrotter ·
There are plenty of good mountain bikes, hybrid bikes, and touring bikes for traveling. Good bike shops and good sellers make a difference. After that, it all comes down to budget. First tip: get a bike that fits your size and feels comfortable to ride—everything else depends on that. I think I’ve got something on that (no guarantees): http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/premier-velo-tableau.php Claudio has a Trek that originally cost 400 € and was later refurbished. The price went up after that. http://cbandiera.free.fr/matos/fanette.php But originally, it was 400 €— a solid frame.

The downside of this mountain bike is that the bottom bracket axle is a bit higher than on a hybrid bike.
Claudio de la Faverges. Bonjour amis cyclotouristes, claude passionné de voyages à vélo favergien et défenseur du cycliste. plus la carte bleue est foncée et plus le bagage est léger en anglais "the more the card is blu the less the luggage is heavy"
DO Doyouphil Regular ·
Whatever. If you have that much experience, you don’t need this forum. You should know that a touring bike’s frame is specifically designed for travel. Form follows function—don’t mix everything up, even if anything is possible.
LE Lethieu Globetrotter ·
Hardtail mountain bikes with no rear suspension and rigid forks don’t really exist anymore... You might still find that kind of bike second-hand (we’re keeping our "old mountain bikes"—they were Lapierre titanium frames... probably won’t find a better frame). But there are limits: for example, I can’t fit disc brakes, which is the only "upgrade" I’d happily make.

If you can’t find one, there are some great XC/trail hardtails with no rear suspension, and you can still find "rigid forks" to replace the hydraulic fork (maybe you could negotiate a trade-in for the hydraulic fork when buying new?). Personally, that’s what I’d consider if I had to replace mine. The "bike touring" bikes on the market are a bit pricey for my taste, and often way too heavy.

Good luck with your search!
michel mathieu www.lethieu39.fr
SA Sagel Regular ·
An Uber-like ride instead? Personally, with my lightweight touring bike (13 kg all in, including the Tubus racks), it's awesome and still nothing to report after over 30,000 km. And yet it's not even a touring-specific bike—I just heavily customized it to my liking.
MA Mandolpierre Veteran ·
hi

Here’s the link to the parts I bought to build my touring bike:

http://mandolpierre.wordpress.com/2014/11/06/liste-de-pieces-pour-monter-un-velo-de-randonnee/

Personally, since I also ride trails, I prefer a hydraulic suspension fork. Plus, I wouldn’t even save a kg with a rigid fork. And actually, I use 7005 aluminum frames, but I bought them back in 2012—same with the forks—so I could have V-brakes.

My partner’s bike for Africa was almost the same, but with a chromoly steel frame from Specialized if I remember right, and the fork was assembled with the top part second-hand from one place and the bottom from another shop, because a high-end hydraulic fork with V-brake mounts is impossible to find these days.

Happy trails, Pierre
tout le monde prétend que la Terre est ronde, mais ne le croyez pas, en fait elle est plate bien sûr! http://mandolpierre.overblog.com
KA Kangoo72 Veteran ·
Hey Nounours!

First, give us a max price and weight. That’ll help narrow down what you need.

++ and happy commemoration ;)

Bru
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DJ Dji25 Regular ·
Any mountain bike from the 80s would do the trick since they had rigid forks and rim brakes. You should check out old Decathlon steel frames—they were solid. If you live near Germany, the second-hand market there is way bigger. A good frame with sturdy wheels is what matters; the rest is less important, I’d say. Trek used to sell (or still does?) the Trek 820, which was their entry-level model and made a great touring bike with a few tweaks. The new version, unfortunately, has a hydraulic fork.
AM Amarok88 Regular ·
Surly Troll All the mounts are designed for all kinds of accessories, brake systems, and drivetrains—it's a real Swiss Army knife. I don’t own one, but I’d love to! Though for me, it’d be its big brother, the Ogre.

You can also find just the frame-and-fork kit if you already have gear.
WA Walzou ·
Hi Nounours,

Personally, I went for a Koga World Traveller 29, and I swapped the original handlebar for a butterfly one, changed the pedals to Shimano with one side for SPD cleats and the other side flat (so I decide when I want to clip in), and replaced the saddle with a Brooks B17. Sure, it’s not a cheap bike, but I don’t regret the investment at all.

First off, you should tell us what kind of trips you’re planning! Long-term travel or just day rides in the area?

I’ve been passionate about bike travel since this summer but haven’t done any long trips yet. However, I’ve done several rides of over 150 km a day on my old entry-level MTB, and let me tell you, spending 8 to 9 hours a day pedaling becomes almost unbearable with all the back pain and saddle soreness. If your partner is thinking of long rides, I’d really recommend not skimping on comfort.

First, some bike shops offer ergo-scanners that adjust your position on the bike to the millimeter based on your body shape. I went that route myself, and I have zero regrets. Also, when you’re talking durability, that often means a steel frame, so the bike will be relatively heavy. My Koga weighs just over 17 kg fully loaded, but it rolls so smoothly that I ride faster than I did on my old bike, which must’ve weighed around 10–12 kg. The Koga World Traveller 29 has a triple-reinforced aluminum frame, a rigid fork, and comes with two water bottles.

Why insist on 26 inches? A 29er requires less effort to maintain the same speed as a 26-inch bike, absorbs bumps and vibrations better (a real plus for comfort), and these days almost all manufacturers are switching to 29 inches, so finding tires anywhere in the world isn’t an issue. The only downside compared to a 26" is slower acceleration (not a big deal—you don’t need to sprint on a touring bike).

Will the bike be heavily loaded with the rider’s weight plus luggage? If so, the World Traveller has hydraulic brakes, which are a real advantage over V-brakes when descending with a heavy load. It also comes with a dynamo hub and a 40-lux front light (a proper headlight) for those who want to ride at night sometimes.

I’m not here to push Koga—I’ve only tested their trekking bikes—but they’re designed for travel (though they also make road bikes). These bikes are built to be sturdy, easy to repair, with parts that are relatively easy to find anywhere in the world. Paired with the ergo-scanner, they’re super comfortable. The butterfly handlebar is also a big plus for comfort since it lets you change positions frequently, which really reduces back pain. The Brooks B-17 saddle is legendary—it requires regular maintenance during the break-in period, but it pays off after a few hundred kilometers. I’d advise against starting a long trip before it’s properly broken in, though for me, it was comfortable from my very first rides.

To sum up, I’d recommend starting by asking yourself the right questions:

- What will the bike be used for (weekend rides or long-term travel)? - A lot of luggage or just a little? - Rides of 3–4 hours a day or more like 8–9 hours? - Capable of handling all types of terrain or mostly asphalt? - Traveling self-sufficiently or not (dynamo hub or not)? - Etc....
NO Nounours Veteran ·
Thanks to everyone who replied—I just need to make my final choice now! I should’ve started with the basics, you're right.

So: For long-distance trips—7 hours a day on the bike Budget: max 1500 € Under 16 kg No dynamo in the hub (we ride enough during the day, no need to add to it at night) She’ll use butterfly handlebars All types of terrain, but mainly roads Average load for a woman (she’s not bringing her ironing board or vacuum cleaner, and of course the heaviest thing is her handbag 😜)

I’m chivalrous—I’ll carry more! See you later
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NO Nounours Veteran ·
Hi! They look great. Where can you find them? Isn’t there a site in French? Thanks
http://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr
MA Mazzzz Veteran ·
hi everyone, I think when you're looking for a travel bike, the key criteria are: 1) reliability, 2) comfort, and 3) efficiency.

1) Reliability: because when you're traveling, you won't necessarily find a mechanic at every trail turn, and besides, you've got other things to do! so steel frame because it's virtually indestructible and can be repaired. simple and repairable drivetrain with 8 or even 9 gears at a push rim brakes because disc brakes are way too fragile and really hard to repair (even mechanical ones) clincher tires (no tubeless) a rigid fork is more reliable and can even be relatively comfortable on a touring bike if it's good quality.

2) Comfort: again, a steel frame (quality one!) beats aluminum. leather saddle, but that's really a personal choice... multi-position handlebars.

3) Efficiency: even when you're touring, a bike with a bit of efficiency is still nice. Again, a well-made steel frame is ideal.

Why shouldn't aluminum be used in a bike frame? the only reason manufacturers use this material is that it can be welded on automated assembly lines, or manually with less skill than required for welding a steel frame with 0.5mm tubes. Since this metal has no elasticity, the frame undergoes heat treatment after manufacturing. It comes out with interesting mechanical properties but they don't last. (messenger cyclists in the 90s used 2 aluminum frames per season because after a few months, the frames lost their responsiveness) to attach a rack, you need eyelets on the frame. On an aluminum frame, the threading is obviously in aluminum, so it's very fragile. Finally, aluminum production is incomparably more polluting than steel. And to finish, the weight argument doesn't hold up for a second. the difference between aluminum and steel of equivalent quality for touring doesn't exceed 500-700g. So it's a very marginal difference on a bike that, when loaded, will easily exceed 30kg!!!

What wheel size? 26" is still by far the most common size worldwide. Then 700c can be a good choice for those who don't go too far off-road, and hybrid bikes are quite common now. As for 27.5" and 29", their distribution is still limited.

Now you just need to find a good quality steel frame and fork that isn't a worn-out second-hand one or junk made from heating pipes. And that's not easy!

In France, you should look at custom builders. Otherwise, Germany or England still have manufacturers working with this noble metal.

good luck
ME Meg2 Globetrotter ·
Finding tires is no longer a problem just about anywhere in the world.

Good luck finding a tire that isn’t 26 inches (and apparently a Chinese brand) in quite a few countries where bike touring is practically nonexistent!
WA Walzou ·
It's no longer a problem to find tires almost anywhere in the world.

I wish you good luck finding a tire that's anything other than 26 inches (and apparently Chinese-made) in many countries where bike touring is practically nonexistent!

It's true that in some countries it's more complicated than others, but I think it's also a matter of organization. Almost every long-distance bike tourist travels with spare tires. Personally, when I set off on my world tour, I plan to bring a set of winter tires and another all-terrain set that can handle any type of surface.

I've read tons of books about people who've cycled around the world, and it's clear that a good touring bike—even if you pay more—means minimal damage compared to a low-end bike. I know someone who's been traveling for over two years now on a Koga, and aside from the chain, they haven't had any breakdowns. Punctures are rare. I read somewhere (can't remember where) about a couple who rode over 10,000 km without a single flat. The World Traveller 29 has rims with 40 spokes, and believe me, that's solid... On my cheap bike, I messed up a turn on a descent and ended up in a field—result: the rim was completely wrecked, and about 125 € in costs for a new one. I guarantee that with the Koga, the damage would've been minimal, if any.

Otherwise, yes, steel frames are easier to weld than aluminum ones. On my Koga, it's reinforced aluminum, just as strong as steel. Just look at the finish to see it's built to last—there are almost no welds (the frame is practically one piece), except near the pedals and the rear rim. You'd really have to try to damage the frame. Of course, we're not immune to accidents, but in that case, whether it's aluminum (reinforced or not) or steel, I think the frame would be toast either way...

Koga has a lot of experience in designing bikes made for travel. Many well-known bike tourists trust them (like Marc Beaumont or Tilmann Waldthaler, among others).

That said, everyone has their own choices—I'm not disputing Mazzzz's advice, as it's good. I'm just sharing my experience and the comparisons I've been able to make in practice. And I'll say it again: for me, covering 150–160 km in a single day on my old bike versus my Koga is just absolutely incomparable in terms of comfort.

Now, as they say, two opinions are better than one. It's up to Nounours to decide. :) But anyway, with their budget, a Koga isn't an option.

Best regards,

Walzou
8X 8xc Veteran ·
Hi

Regarding the steel vs. aluminum debate, I’d still love to know why this metal—so criticized and almost considered dangerous based on some arguments (I had a good laugh reading that pros needed 2 frames per season in the aluminum era, while in the steel era they needed 4)—is used for stems, handlebars, seat posts, and wheels. In short, components that need to be strong, rigid, and durable. But I’m not waiting for or asking for an answer—these debates are bottomless pits best avoided.

Nounours, setting aside these useless controversies (steel vs. aluminum; 26"/700/27.5/29; touring bike vs. MTB vs. hybrid, etc.), but to answer your question: there’s an importer in my department (Vaucluse) who sells steel frames or bikes in 26", with a rigid fork (or suspension fork if you ask for it), or even e-bikes. He’s a German guy based in Méthamis—I don’t know him personally, but his ads sometimes pop up on leboncoin. His website is here.

Example of what he builds in the touring MTB style:

Pas de deuxième vague en Europe : https://tinyurl.com/y5ytqzej
WA Walzou ·
Yeah, 8xc, I think you're right—it's one of those bottomless debates.

The bike you just posted looks really good. That said, I have some doubts about disc brakes... Everyone has their own preference, but it’s still something to think about.

PS: I still wanted to bring up dynamos. Good lights aren’t just for nighttime—being visible in thick fog is always a plus for safety. Plus, it gives better autonomy for the E-Werk setup. Of course, a solar panel could work too... Anyway, everyone has their own travel style—the main thing is to have fun!

Best,

Walzou
ME Meg2 Globetrotter ·
Almost every long-distance cycle tourists carry spare tires.

Personally, I'm "small-framed," so for me, the question of 29-inch wheels doesn’t even come up—they’re too big. But even if I had the choice, I’d stick with 26-inch wheels because I often travel in less touristy countries, with a preference for mountainous regions, so I really need to limit the weight of my gear. Not only do I not want to carry spare tires, but there’s no way I’d bring spare rims either. After all, you’re never safe from an accident, even a minor one, that could bend a wheel. I know that with 26-inch wheels, I’ll be able to find repair parts at least in big cities wherever I go.

Reinforced aluminum is just as strong as steel.

Yes, it’s rare for a good frame to fail, and Koga bikes are well-made. But watch out for racks—they’re much more fragile. I was able to get a steel rack welded at a body shop in the middle of Kyrgyzstan; with an aluminum rack, I would’ve had to redistribute my luggage into other panniers until the next big city—it wouldn’t have been practical at all! (I probably would’ve had to leave some stuff behind, I think)
WA Walzou ·
Yes Meg2, I get your point. That said, I'm not very tall either (5'8"). For my part, I plan to travel relatively heavy since I carry a lot of gear, but I still try to go for the lightest weight possible for each piece of equipment (without breaking the bank, though). I also love the mountains, but I live in northern Switzerland in a pretty hilly region, so I'm fairly well trained for climbing passes (though I train without any load). As for rims, we agree! I'm definitely not bringing any with me.

Regarding the rear rack, my Koga is equipped with the famous Tubus Logo in CrMo steel. So no big issues with welding it back together.
NO Nounours Veteran ·
Thanks for the info! This bike looks great—do you know the price? I’d also like to know if it comes without disc brakes. Cheers!
http://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr
LU Lucbertrand Globetrotter ·
Hi Michel, I didn’t take the time to read all the replies—I just skimmed a few. Here’s my quick take.

I have a mountain bike and a Trek with 700c wheels. On rough terrain, I’m almost as comfortable on my Trek as on my mountain bike, but as soon as I hit the road with the MTB, I feel like I’m glued to the ground. Even in the Vosges forests, I tend to take my Trek instead of the MTB. On the Trek, I’ve got Mavic rims—the most expensive part of my bike. It performed amazingly in the Atacama, during 4,000 km of easy riding around the Mekong, and crossing the Alps or the Pyrenees...

Price: aluminum Trek frame, super-solid Mavic wheels, good Shimano bearings, front and rear racks—max 1,200 €, 13 kg. (Rear rim alone cost 250 €.) I won’t dive into technical details since I’m not a bike mechanic at all. The sloped frame makes it a unisex bike (works for men and women). In short, against popular opinion, I’m a huge fan of 700c wheels no matter the terrain. From November 6 to 9, I did my Lyon-to-Vosges crossing in 4 days without tackling too many mountains—the weather was threatening. I rode through the Ain gorges, the Jura vineyards (it climbs!), a bit along the Doubs, the Chaux forest, across Haute-Saône, and Cornimont in the Vosges. 377 km, 3,950 m of elevation gain in 4 days—but I chickened out and stayed in hotels every night, even though I had all the gear to camp. I discovered *poulet à la concoyotte* with a *poulsard*—absolutely sublime!

PS: Here’s a photo of my bike—this was in the Canary Islands.

Luc
LE Lethieu Globetrotter ·
Totally agree with you on the poulsard and chicken with cancoillotte!!!! When it comes to wheel sizes, the debate never ends: sometimes the differences in performance are just a matter of feel... but most often and most likely, it's about the wheel's inertia (the moving masses, etc.) which depends on several factors—the wheel diameter, of course, but also the weight of the tires, rims, tire efficiency (inflation pressure, tread pattern...). In short, even if when traveling you might choose more inertia (less crisp acceleration but better speed retention), wheel size isn't the only factor... But hey, what really matters is the trip and the joy it brings us!!!
michel mathieu www.lethieu39.fr
NO Nounours Veteran ·
Hey Luc, there are so many great suggestions on this site that we’re even more undecided now. Sylvie rode through Vietnam, Paraguay, and Turkey on a hybrid bike, but the problem came when we headed to Cameroon—out of 1,200 km, over 800 km were rough tracks. The Schwalbe Marathon tire on the front wheel didn’t fit (it rubbed against the frame).

So for that trip, we outfitted my old Sun mountain bike for travel instead.

To get clearer answers, I’m going to start a new discussion: Who wants to gift a touring bike to my wife?

😉😎
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KH Kherozenne Regular ·
Hey there,

Your wife’s happiness here? 😎

Otherwise, keep it simple—it’s not the most expensive bike that’ll go the farthest or be the best fit. You can still ride around the world on pre-war clunkers.

Here’s a great gallery of several "fannettes" (that’s for Claudio from Faverges), not exhaustive but it shows all the gear that can be useful for bike touring. Let your imagination run wild—anything goes! :)

And this one is one of my favorites. Hats off—beyond the gear, you still need some serious motivation!

Wishing you both amazing adventures ahead.
Psyclopathe. suffering from an extreme love of bicycles. mais je me soigne ... je deviens autophobe.
NO Nounours Veteran ·
Hey Kherozenne, The latest one really appeals to me, but if I buy it for my wife, I’m afraid she’ll look down on me. 🙂
http://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr
8X 8xc Veteran ·
Thanks for the info! This bike looks nice—do you know the price? I’d like to know if it comes without disc brakes. Cheers!

From what I can tell, it doesn’t come without disc brakes.

The price is currently under 400 €, check it out here. Best to contact the guy who’s selling them.

Happy hunting!
Pas de deuxième vague en Europe : https://tinyurl.com/y5ytqzej
HÉ Hélaine34 Regular ·
I use my Lapierre Race Pro 200: sturdy and lightweight. I'm really happy with it.
"On croit qu'on fait un voyage mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait et vous défait." Nicolas Bouvier. L'usage du monde
HÉ Hélaine34 Regular ·
My partner wants to change her touring bike, which isn’t quite the right size for her. We don’t want touring bikes that are too heavy. Travel shouldn’t be a hassle—it’s not a punishment! I’ve had the same bike for ages: a Specialized mountain bike with plastic mudguards. I’ve taken it through 14 countries, on weekend rides, and it’s still super sturdy. My wife is looking for a mountain bike that’s lightweight yet tough enough to add a rack, with a rigid front fork, 26-inch wheels, smooth to ride, not too expensive—and that’s about it. Anyone have good feedback or recommendations for a brand? Thanks

I use my Lapierre Pro 200: solid and lightweight. I’m really happy with it. There’s also a higher-end model, but it’s pricier.
"On croit qu'on fait un voyage mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait et vous défait." Nicolas Bouvier. L'usage du monde
NO Nounours Veteran ·
Thanks so much! We were waiting for winter to give us some guidance before deciding with all these options, but there’s no winter this year. Still, even if we don’t go with the same bike as you, I hope you won’t throw rocks at us. 🏴‍☠️ See you later!
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HÉ Hélaine34 Regular ·
Awesome! Hope you find the perfect fit! In the meantime, I’ll recommend the Lapierre again. Especially for its weight (around 10kg for my height = 1.61m) and durability. Everywhere I go, bike mechanics tell me: "And never part with that one!" Where are you planning to ride "this winter"? And remember... "A Lapierre that rolls, gathers no...!"
"On croit qu'on fait un voyage mais c'est le voyage qui vous fait et vous défait." Nicolas Bouvier. L'usage du monde
KE Kerouac38 Regular ·
Check out this site entirely dedicated to women traveling by bike—you might find some great tips there. Plus, you’ll improve your English! http://www.skalatitude.com/p/wow-women-on-wheels.html
j'aime le travail, je pourrais passer des heures à le regarder
NO Nounours Veteran ·
Uhhhhh... I'd need to speak English first to improve it! But the site is awesome, plus it has translation! And the photos! The photos are gorgeous 😲 Thanks
http://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr
GR Graimpeur ·
Hi, a 26" steel-frame Reynolds bike, Papalagi Cycletech model—it's a must. Best regards.
merlin
PE Pesca07 ·
For travel, you need something sturdy and rugged. For a good deal, I really like the "postman’s bike": tough, fairly lightweight, with big and very big aluminum racks, hub gears, etc... and obviously the king of the city!! I’ve got two and I’m selling one for 350 €! If interested: phone: 06.66.86.61.07
NO Nounours Veteran ·
For the price, is there the courier with? And the bike, sent as a registered letter?😮
http://curieuxcyclos.eklablog.fr
OU Outwild ·
For choosing a bike for travel, there’s a great article here: https://www.outwild.fr/quel-vtt-choisir-pour-un-voyage-a-velo
Expéditions & Voyages: https://www.outwild.fr/

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