Trip to Japan in autumn 2025 with a child
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GA Gange Regular ·
Hello,

Let’s spare the surprise effect...

Okay, I did a bit of research online—maybe I’ll just avoid Sundays😛

Nothing unforgettable and not a place I’d call a must-see in my opinion, but hey, if you and your daughter feel like it, skipping it would be a shame

I don’t expect it to be a must-see either, and knowing me, I probably won’t like it at all—but I think my daughter will. Plus, with 6 days in Tokyo, I’ve got time to check it out...
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MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
I won’t like it at all, but I think my daughter will

Yeah, you’ve gotta go at least once. And on Sundays, it’ll be packed—it’s an experience you’ve gotta have!
CI Cilce59 ·
Hi, Just checking in about your trip to Japan—did you take out extra insurance to cover any medical expenses while you're there?

Thanks in advance for your reply!

Ccil
GA Gange Regular ·
Hi! I never take out insurance beyond what I have with my card (my card’s insurer is Europ Assistance—I declare the trip online and download an insurance certificate before leaving). And since I’ve never needed it so far, I can’t really say if it’s enough or if it works well. Yesterday, friends asked me the exact same question—twice in two days—so maybe I should look into this more closely. 😛
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CI Cilce59 ·
Thanks for your reply! I no longer have the Carte Première, but I know that with this card, you get easier access to medical care abroad. I’ll check with my bank or simply with my insurance.

Have a great trip!
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

It’ll depend on your card, actually. With standard cards, coverage can range from 0 € to 11,000 € depending on your bank. For example, with Premier Visa cards, it’s 155,000 €, but you’ll need to have purchased your flight ticket either partially or in full to be covered. The trip shouldn’t exceed 90 consecutive days. Check your bank’s app—it should explain everything.
Cordialement, Patrick.
MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
you’ll need to have bought your flight ticket either partially or in full to be insured.

No, that’s a common mistake. The mandatory requirement is for insurance—like delayed or canceled flights, or unfulfilled reservations, etc. Medical care or repatriation falls under assistance, which is covered even if you don’t use the card. That said, the level of assistance does depend on the type of card, and it’s still highly recommended to have a premium card, even if it’s free.
PA Patrick91230 Globetrotter ·
Absolutely, the devil’s in the details.
Cordialement, Patrick.
GA Gange Regular ·
Sure enough, after this discussion, I checked my coverage and terms, etc., and that’s exactly how it is. But I still hope, as always, that I won’t need it...

Unrelated, but I managed to get tickets for the Ghibli Museum (sales for October just started last night). From what I gathered, don’t expect something mind-blowing given the hype around the tickets (which, by the way, are already sold out for the month, just minutes after going on sale). But I’m still happy we’re going—I’m a huge fan of the studio’s films, and my daughter is too. We’ll also take the opportunity to spend some time in Kichijoji. I had noted down (thanks to Toth): - Kichijoji Petit Mura - Inokashira Park and of course the museum in the mid-afternoon. If there’s anything else to plan while we’re there, let me know ;) ...and maybe a good place to have lunch😛

Thanks
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GA Gange Regular ·
Hi there, I’m finalizing my trip for October and have a few questions:

Car rental - I’m returning the rental car at Shinagawa (I need to drop it off by 1 PM, but I’m aiming to be there before noon). After that, I’ll head straight to Osaka. Can I buy 3 Shinkansen tickets to Osaka on the same day, or is it risky (it’s a Monday)? Or if I buy a train ticket in advance and end up being ready to leave earlier, can I change it easily? Since I have no experience renting a car there, I’m not sure if returning the vehicle is quick or if I should allow extra time...

Osaka I’ll spend 3.5 days in Osaka. Here’s my plan: - Arrival day in Osaka in the afternoon. Not sure which neighborhood is worth exploring in the late afternoon (Shinsekai?), since I’m arriving on a Monday. - 1 day in Nara - 1 day at Universal Studios - 1 day for the aquarium, various sights (castle, Shitenno-ji Temple, shopping, etc.). Himeji will be for my next trip. I’m debating which neighborhood to stay in to be well-located for transport (and also have good restaurants nearby). Any recommendations for a neighborhood (or even a hotel)? (The one Girrardinpho mentions in their travel journal is closed according to Google.) During my 2013 trip, our hotel (whose name and neighborhood I unfortunately don’t remember) was really out of the way and not convenient for transport, so I’d love to do better this time.

Onsen When I search for Tsurumaki onsen, I only find super expensive options. I’m looking for an onsen experience (private, since I’ve heard it’s not possible otherwise with a child), but I can’t find anything at normal prices. Around Kawaguchiko or Hakone—or anywhere else (I’ll have a car, so it’s easy)—do you know where I could find a nice ryokan/onsen experience with a child for a max of 300 € per night (which is already a big budget)? Because right now, I’m seeing places for 600, 700 € a night 🏴‍☠️

Thanks in advance! :) !
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MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
Renting a car in Japan is nothing like in Mediterranean countries—it’s a real pleasure! I rented 4 (!) this year. No issues with returns, it’s quick. Though, there can be two cars arriving just before you…

No problem buying a Shinagawa-Osaka train ticket the same day either. You can always take unreserved seats, and at worst (which is very rare), you’ll travel standing up.

A day and a half in Osaka… it *is* Japan’s second-largest city, after all! But hey, it’s not my trip. Ending the arrival day in Shinsekai is nice. Going up to the top of Tsutenkaku is fun. I’ve been to Osaka 4 times, each time in a different hotel, including 3 Toyoko Inns, which I’d recommend—but they apparently don’t have triple rooms. For location, I think Namba is an excellent choice (ideally near Takashimaya).

As for onsens, I’m not entirely sure. Kids can go in the baths. For a baby, it might be trickier, but at 10 years old, I don’t see an issue.

If you find a ryokan with private baths for 300 € including three half-board meals, grab it! !
BE BeneFukuoka Veteran ·
For onsens, I don’t really get it. Kids can go in the baths. For a baby, it might be trickier, but at 10 years old, I don’t see the issue.

It can get complicated in the case of two dads with a daughter—it means leaving her alone to go bathe on the women’s side, since at 10 years old, she can’t come to the men’s side anymore.
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MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
For onsens, I don’t really get it. Kids can go in the baths. For a baby, it might be trickier, but at 10 years old, I don’t see an issue.

It can get complicated in the case of two dads with a daughter—it means leaving her alone to go bathe on the women’s side since at 10 years old, she can’t come to the men’s side anymore.

Of course, but that’s (presumably) not the case here.
GA Gange Regular ·
I rented 4 (!) this year. No problem with the return—it’s quick. Though, there might be two cars arriving just before...

Awesome, thanks a bunch😉! (I don’t know why, but that doesn’t surprise me)

No problem buying a Shinagawa–Osaka train ticket the same day either. You can always take unreserved seats, and at worst (though it’s very rare), you’ll travel standing.

That’s seriously great—it’ll make my planning so much easier. Just a quick question: if, for example, we don’t get seats (which isn’t a big deal, even if I get that it’s rare), will that cause issues with our luggage?

A day and a half in Osaka... it *is* Japan’s second-largest city...

I know, but I didn’t even want to go given how short the trip is. My flight leaves from Osaka—that’s the only reason. We’re spending a full week in Tokyo, which is a huge city... I’m intentionally saving the other big city for our next trip (we’re already planning to return), and I’m worried (maybe unnecessarily) that my daughter will get overwhelmed, hence choosing Nara and Universal instead.

For location, I think Namba is an excellent choice (ideally near Takashimaya).

Thanks—I’ll check out hotels in that area. The Tokyo Inn does have a "Family room" with a 160cm bed and a 110cm bed, but it’s 107,400 yen for 3 nights at my dates 🏴‍☠️. I’ll try to find something a bit cheaper. They also offer kids under 12 sharing their parents’ bed in a double room, but fitting into a 160cm bed is tight (and anyway, no double rooms are available for my dates)...

About onsens—I don’t get it. Kids can go in the baths. For a baby, it might be trickier, but at 10 years old, I don’t see an issue.

I’ve read so many discussions—I must’ve mixed up some info.

BeneFukuoKa

It can get complicated for two dads with a daughter—it’d mean leaving her alone to bathe on the women’s side since at 10, she can’t come to the men’s side.

That’s not our case, but yeah, it could definitely be an issue depending on the family setup. I just misunderstood—I thought kids under a certain age were banned and that you *had* to book a private onsen (no idea where I got that from...).

If you find a ryokan with private baths for 300 € including three half-board meals, grab it!

I think that’s mission impossible, but I’ll keep looking😛

Thank you so much! I’m almost ready to go😎 (well, in a month anyway)
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MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
For luggage, it depends... If the suitcase exceeds 160 cm (L+H+W), it's better (or even necessary) to book the last seats in each carriage, so plan ahead.



Though it’s been possible recently to reserve a locked storage space, but I’ve never tried it.

Otherwise, for a carry-on or medium-sized suitcase, no problem.

About the price of Toyoko Inn, that’s odd—they’re business hotels and usually very affordable, with breakfast included. But I noticed the same thing this year. I paid less than 10 k¥ at the Toyoko in Izumo and 22 k¥ in Osaka for an identical room! I thought it was because of the World Expo, but it ends on 10/13...

Today’s tip: the Ferris wheel at Don Quijote in Dotonburi is a must-do...
GA Gange Regular ·
Ouch 🏴‍☠️, yikes, thanks for the info. Otherwise, I’ll look into luggage transfers (takkyubin?) so I don’t have to bother—we’d just travel with a carry-on suitcase, and the rest would catch up with us the next day in Osaka (though I’ll still measure my suitcase).

Honestly, I’m finding hotels *super* expensive... or maybe I’m just searching wrong, but I’m only looking at my dates on Booking. And when I check hotels directly on their official sites, same deal 🏴‍☠️. Here’s the result for Tokyo Inn Namba Osaka (I think it’s the one you mentioned) for 3 nights:



It’s a pretty big room for 4, I think... but that’s all that’s left for my dates—everything else is "No available." My main issue is that since we can’t really sleep 3 in a bed under 180 cm, we always end up with expensive setups (for example, if I check dates in January, I see a standard double room—17m²/1 bed 160 cm—costs 55,000 yen for 3 nights). Airbnbs, on the other hand, are *way* more affordable, even if I’d have preferred a hotel. I booked one in the area you recommended (and the location reviews are *excellent*), 262 € for 3 nights with two proper beds—that’s a *huge* difference. Cancellation is free, so if I feel like splurging later, I can always switch to a hotel😛
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GA Gange Regular ·
Today’s tip: the Don Quijote Ferris wheel in Dotonburi is a must-do...

Thanksss[;]
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69 69Eric Veteran ·
Good evening, We also traveled as a family of three (with our 18-year-old son at the time), and every time, the hotels offered us two rooms, which obviously doubled the budget! In the end, we only booked Airbnbs. Except once—a ryokan, just for the experience—which cost us the equivalent of four nights in an Airbnb... Happy planning and safe travels!
GA Gange Regular ·
In the end, we only booked Airbnbs

Yeah, it ended up that way for us too ;)!

Thanks, we can’t wait! :P!
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GA Gange Regular ·
Hi, I have a little question in case you’ve already experienced this: I found a ryokan with an onsen (not private, but that’s okay) and half-board (kaiseki dinner). Sure, it’s more than 300 €, but I’m celebrating a double anniversary, so I’m done complaining about the price. I’m about to book directly on their site, and weirdly, if I put 3 adults, the total is cheaper than for 2 adults + 1 child. I wondered if it was because they might prepare a special kids’ dinner (though why would that generate extra fees…?). Here’s how it’s presented on the site, with the number specified for each category: Male guests Standard meal(s) (Male) Female guests. Standard meal(s) (Female) Children age 6-12. Children's meal(s)

I searched the forum and the internet in general but didn’t find anything about this. I’m tempted to go with 3 adults, especially since my daughter is more interested in the real dinner than a kids’ meal, but I don’t want to make a faux pas. Have any of you experienced this before?
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MA Masterpo Globetrotter ·
Have you ever experienced this?

Nope!

Is it possible to get the name of the ryokan and the date in a PM, so I can check it out?
GA Gange Regular ·
Thanks, I sent you the info in a PM :)
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GA Gange Regular ·
Hey everyone, Well, I'm behind on my travel journal🏴‍☠️! So without further ado, I just want to thank you all for your invaluable tips, which were a huge help for this trip. I spent 6 days in Tokyo, 2.5 days around Mt. Fuji (by car), and 3 days in Osaka. It was AMAZING. The two big changes I noticed compared to my 2013 trip: - Way more people speaking English in the big cities (in 2013, almost no one, even in tourist spots). - Lots of foreigners living and working in Japan (staff in konbinis, restaurants, tourist spots, etc.). In 2013, honestly, aside from tourists... it was really rare.

See you soon for the full report😛
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