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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
There’s quite a bit of construction on the highways...

I wanted to see Lake Brienz, but even normally it’s 1 hour 20 minutes, and now Waze says 1 hour 40...

My partner’s starting to get fed up with driving...

Even farther on to Lake Lucerne, it’s still a 1-hour drive.
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Today we visited Thun! Of course, the weather was nice when we left, but it clouded over when we arrived 🤦 Then the sun came back out.

A lovely town! Less impressive than Lucerne (but the bar is high), but less crowded too!

We climbed up to the hilltop belvedere for a view of the Alps, strolled along the quay, explored the old town, and took in the views from the church and the castle...

We stopped at the local Nespresso store for some purchases that came with a tasting—perfect for a coffee break!

Then we ended the day in Oberhofen, known for its castle on the water, a bit like Chillon. It was mainly for the view. The park was nice!

A village of chalets—what a change!

We found a tavern with almost no one around (we were the only ones inside) to enjoy some homemade local dishes.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
From Thun, Lake Brienz wasn’t too far away.😉

On the other hand, if you go another day, don’t stop in Interlaken. This little town is super touristy—it feels like you’re in Asia.

Giessbach Falls is a must (multiple tiers and you can walk behind the waterfall), and you absolutely have to stop at the historic hotel for a coffee.

For the view and an easy hike on a good trail, I recommend heading up to Männlichen and walking to Kleine Scheidegg. During the whole walk, you’ll have Switzerland’s three iconic mountains right in front of you (Eiger, Mönch, and Jungfrau).

Have a great trip!
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
That’s sweet, but we won’t have time... We’re going to focus on Lake Lucerne (Lac des 4 Cantons). I would’ve loved to stay longer, but we need to free up the apartment.

I can’t find any other exchanges...

I’ll probably book 3 nights somewhere for the Rhine Falls and Stein am Rhein, and that’s it 🤷‍♂️

Switzerland is a gorgeous country—you need time (and money 💰) to explore it!
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
One question though: do you Swiss folks find your country too expensive?

The hosts for my first exchange told me that even for them, visiting Switzerland wasn’t cheap...

At least when you travel, everything else seems affordable! 😊
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
I skipped a few days of visits in this travel journal, but since I'm on my smartphone, it's a real pain to find the photos (sorted by date), and since you can only select one at a time...

We had gone to see the Lavaux terraces, with the villages of Grandvaux and Saint-Saphorin. In the fine rain...

It's still pretty, though! !
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Berne
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Mixed weather today

We returned to Lucerne because it's the closest...

We hadn't climbed the ramparts or seen the lion, so that's done now.

Lots of people.

The plan is to take a funicular and see the view from the Gutsch belvedere, but we'll see depending on the weather.

It's not a great summer...
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RU Rudovfer Regular ·
Should’ve gone to Ticino.

We’re heading back Sunday, but so far in 10 days, just one rainy morning. But it’s hot...🤪
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Oh well, it's not better!
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
The view!

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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
So pizza instead! !
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
I also like Lungern—it’s a bit closer than Brienz.

It’s my husband who’ll decide; he’s the driver (and he’s a little tired of driving...).
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Still, a question: do you Swiss find your country too expensive?

The hosts for our first exchange told me that even for them, visiting Switzerland wasn’t cheap...

At least when you travel, everything seems affordable!

It’s true—even for many Swiss, visiting the country is expensive. That said, I get the impression that a lot of people are more willing to spend big on trips abroad than in their own country.

Plus, I don’t think everything is *that* much more expensive than elsewhere. When I see the prices for boats or ski lifts in France or some regions of Italy, it’s pretty much the same.

We were in Peru in April-May. We had to pay to visit churches in Cusco, and it wasn’t cheap. The train to Machu Picchu and the site itself are also quite pricey. Same in Southern Africa—accommodations are very expensive, some national parks too, and car rentals as well. Norway and Iceland? Don’t even get me started.

We just got back from Slovenia and made a detour to Austria to visit Vienna. We went in our camper, so I can’t say much about lodging. But life in Vienna *seems* really expensive. Drinks, entry fees for castles and other attractions—everything’s super pricey. We wondered how Austrians manage. Public transport is cheaper than in Switzerland, but the trams in the city are from another era. Though I think they’re renovating some lines and replacing the trams.

Same for Slovenia—never seen a country where you have to pay so much to access waterfalls, gorges, some of which aren’t even developed. On top of that, parking is also very expensive, as are campsites. Meals are cheaper than in Switzerland, and so is public transport.

We visit Switzerland often, and I think you can do plenty of things there without spending a cent. But we love hiking—maybe that explains it.😉

One thing’s for sure: eating out is expensive, way more than in France. But no more than in Iceland or Norway.

Another thing’s for sure: the Swiss get less state support than the French. Social benefits are much more developed in France. When I compare with my sister-in-law or brother-in-law, I don’t think they’re worse off financially. With them, it’s more about different spending mindsets. We think it’s normal to pay for certain things, while they always try to pay as little as possible. They have good salaries, though. But you can’t generalize…
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Oh yeah, one thing that’s clearly cheaper in Switzerland compared to a lot of European countries is the roads. The highway vignette is really not expensive, and the tunnels (entirely in Switzerland) are free. Sometimes I think the Swiss are totally crazy for spending billions to build tunnels and not charging tourists or transport companies who use them.
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Some countries really overcharge for tourist spots (I’m thinking of Slovenia, for example).

We do a lot of things on foot—yeah, the goal is to wander around, pretty much like everywhere else.

I was in Vienna at the end of 2023, and I found cafés and restaurants more expensive in Switzerland. Compared to Paris, though, cultural spots are *very* pricey—I think they overcharge because it’s touristy.

I was in Copenhagen before coming to Switzerland. Castles are expensive there too, museums aren’t much pricier than elsewhere, I’d say, but restaurants were a bit cheaper—though I mostly went to nice places with fancy dishes...

Yeah, Norway is expensive. It’s on my list too! 😄

But something I noticed: in Paris, cappuccinos are among the most expensive in Europe, especially compared to local salaries.

The prices relative to Swiss salaries don’t shock me as much. In France, salaries are much lower, so we have less purchasing power even at home...

But yeah, paying for nature? That’s not something we have in France. We were talking about that... At worst, parking is paid, but not the actual spot.

As a French person who hates paying for parking (oops), we mostly stuck to *zones bleues* (blue zones).

I paid in Gruyères (not too expensive in the end) and on the first day in Fribourg because I had no choice. On Sundays, it was free. Free zones on Saturdays in Lausanne.

Otherwise, *zone bleue* everywhere.
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
We might get there once at the Gothard... 😛 😏
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Oh, for cable cars, actually I’ve only done it once in my life.

Yeah, it’s all so expensive.

The Jungfraujoch is especially outrageous 😲 but it attracts all the Asian tourists.

I’d love to come back for a more mountain-focused trip if possible...
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Oh, one thing I noticed: you can find free public restrooms pretty much everywhere, generally clean with toilet paper. France could take a page from their book!

Of course, everything’s clean—what a change from Paris.

And in terms of safety, you feel much more at ease.
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
We might make it to the Gotthard once... 😛

I think I’d vote for it. But it won’t pass.
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
A day full of breathtaking sights!

I convinced my partner to take a road trip to Brienz.

We passed by Lake Sarmen, then Lungern, before ending up in Brienz.

It’s so beautiful! I spent the whole day in awe!

Sure, it’s very "postcard-perfect," but it’s nice every now and then 😄

Fewer people than in Lucerne, so that was a nice change too.

We had our first rösti in Brienz! Good, but so filling that I couldn’t finish it 😅 Big diet when we get back 😅

Switzerland is truly a stunning country. I really hope to come back to this area to explore more!
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Next up, with a few photos of Brienz

This country is so beautiful it’s gonna be tough to leave...

Haven’t even left yet and I’m already hoping to come back! It’s the kind of scenery I love... The towns are pretty too! !
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
I just booked 3 nights to extend the stay a bit, see the Rhine Falls, Stein am Rhein, and still take a trip to Zurich.

Gotta figure out where to park!

Originally, I had spotted a place further into Germany that would let me visit Mainau and Tübingen, but the booking request was denied...

There aren’t many accommodations available this season...

Guess I’ll have to come back! !
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
Stein am Rhein to avoid on a Sunday in August... 😛
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Yeah...

Maybe Zurich on Sunday instead...

Well, today it's hot and the driver's had enough of the road 🥵
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Just wrapped up a new swap north of Lausanne!

So, 3 days in an Airbnb in northern Switzerland (well, actually in Germany right by the border), then back to French-speaking Switzerland. Depending on the weather, I might extend my stay. We’d love to take a trip to Sion...
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DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
We'd love to take a trip to Sion...

I really like Valais: Val d'Hérens, Val d'Herémence, I pass through Sion... The city itself? Meh... It's true that when I go to the mountains, I try to avoid cities. From what I remember: It's not easy to park there for free ;)
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Ah...

I took a little look on Street View and I think the town has its charm.

It’s still just an idea...

The mice really want to visit the Gruyères cheese dairy!

And see a bit of the heights around Vevey, and Montreux too!

For a mountain stay, I hope to come back one day with accommodation... in the mountains!

But even in France, I don’t know our mountains very well.

The Vercors looks pretty!

My husband’s dream is Chamonix-Mont-Blanc (well, the Aiguille du Midi). We’ll see depending on the weather...

Right now, it’s too hot—we’re only going out now.
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KU Kurtinet Regular ·
In Sion, Valère and Tourbillon are must-sees.

In the valleys, check out Evolène, Grimentz...
DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
Mr. Dream is Chamonix-Mont-Blanc

It’s really beautiful, but it’s a small town. It’s better to go a bit off-season, like June or September. Otherwise, the area feels too urbanized for my taste.

The Vercors looks so pretty!

It’s not high mountain terrain (it’s the limestone pre-Alps). The few slightly larger towns (in the northern Vercors)—Villard de Lans, Autrans-Méaudre, Lans en Vercors—don’t have much exceptional to offer... except ski slopes in winter for enthusiasts. Outside of these "mini towns," nature reigns supreme, and even in July/August, apart from motorcyclists roaring through our villages, it’s so peaceful! No overtourism here yet!
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
For the Vercors, I’m talking about nature and hikes, obviously!

For Chamonix, the thing is we won’t be far away. We’re not gonna leave just to come back to the area.

It’s mainly for taking the cable cars up for the ascents. But the weather’s pretty unpredictable.
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
For the Vercors, I'm talking about nature and hikes, of course!

For Chamonix, the thing is we won't be far. We're not gonna leave just to come back to the area.

It's obviously for taking the cable cars up for the ascents. But the weather's pretty unpredictable.

35°C today, and next week's looking super hot. But if you wanna make the most of the area, come back later!! 🏴‍☠️
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Well, if we go, it’ll be at the end of August.

And so I don’t have any gear for high-altitude temperatures since it wasn’t really planned...
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Well, if we go, it’ll be at the end of August.

And so I don’t have any gear for high-altitude temperatures since it wasn’t really planned...

End of August should be fine—the rush will have passed. But if you want to head up to the Aiguille, stop by Décathlon in Passy (or Intersport in Sallanches) before going up and gear up at least a little. It can get really chilly up there!
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GA Gaura Veteran ·
I live in Haute-Savoie, on the French shore of Lake Geneva, facing the Lavaux vineyards. When I want to show the mountains to people who aren’t familiar with them, Chamonix isn’t my first choice—the town is at 1,000m, at the bottom of a steep valley "crushed" by the Mont Blanc Massif, which peaks at over 4,800m. But if you go up to the Aiguille du Midi (I think it’s 3,800m), it’s absolutely breathtaking! You’re close to Mont Blanc and the peaks, you see the climbers... unforgettable, but super expensive and really crowded (book tickets, park in far-away lots...). I’ve never been there in the middle of summer! So, I take my friends to see the Swiss mountains near Interlaken: the Jungfrau, Eiger, Mönch. We take the cable car up to Männlichen and then hike down to the little train at Kleine Scheidegg while admiring the mountains and glaciers. It’s also pricey, but you get to enjoy the mountain scenery more. But you’ve already been to that area... If you go back to Gruyère, there’s the Pays d’Enhaut, which is lovely, with the largest Swiss chalet in Rossinière. If you’ve got the budget and patience, you could try Chamonix and the Aiguille du Midi—otherwise, the Swiss Alps in Valais, as recommended by our Swiss friends. Have a great end to your vacation.
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MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hi there! Evian’s not bad either ;) Oddly enough, for me the most beautiful view of the valley isn’t from the top of the Aiguille (3842 m, I confirm) but from across the way! From the top of the Brévent cable car (2500 m), the view of the massif is simply breathtaking (when it’s clear). The Aiguilles Rouges are, in my opinion, the best hikes in the area.

You can even catch some festivals! Cosmojazz 2025

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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Very close to Sion, you can walk the Bisse de Savièse. The history of the bisses (mountain irrigation channels) in Valais is fascinating, and the one in Savièse is really nice to do. No need to pay if you walk along the bisse. Here’s some info: https://www.torrent-neuf.ch/

The Val d’Anniviers is gorgeous. The village of Grimentz is really pretty. You can drive all the way to the Moiry Dam. You’ll need to drive to the parking lot at the end of the lake, right at the foot of the glacier.



DJ Djalma Globetrotter ·
The Val d’Anniviers is really beautiful. The village of Grimentz is so pretty

Earlier (I was thinking about Grimentz), I made a mistake—I mentioned the Val d'Hérémence when it’s actually the Val d’Anniviers. I have friends in the Val d'Herens, and I once did a hike with them from Eison to a village whose name I’ve forgotten—near the Grande Dixence Dam. From there, we went to Grimentz, and I was convinced the village was in the Val d'Hérémence. I can confirm Grimentz is a must-see!
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RU Rudovfer Regular ·
In Sion, especially Valère and Tourbillon.

In the valleys, Evolène, Grimentz...

I spent a week of vacation there a few years ago. The Blue Lake of AROLLA... "STUNNING"! Rarely have I seen water so transparent! Even Google photos don’t do the place justice compared to how beautiful it is in real life.

For Sion, free parking for 12 hours (if I remember correctly) behind the Sion stadium. (At the corner of Route d’Herens and the highway on the map side of the stadium)

For Zurich, I can only encourage you to go! I spent some time there, and many days in the city—when it comes to tranquility and safety, it must beat any village of over 2,000 people in Western Europe. That’s how good it feels there!
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Oh well, if we go, it’ll be at the end of August.

And I don’t have any gear for high-altitude temperatures since it wasn’t really planned...

End of August should be fine—the rush will have passed. But if you want to head up to the Aiguille, stop by Décathlon in Passy (or Intersport in Sallanches) before going up and gear up a bit. It can get really chilly up there!

Exactly!

We’re in Zug right now. Cute but small. And it’s way too hot...

So since I extended the stay, I hope it’ll be okay...
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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Hello Evian is pretty nice too 😉 Paradoxically, for me, the most beautiful view of the valley isn’t at the top of the Aiguille (3842m, I confirm) but across from it! From the top of the Brévent cable car (2500m), the view of the massif is simply breathtaking (when it’s clear). The Aiguilles Rouges are, in my opinion, the best hikes in the area.

You can even catch some festivals! Cosmojazz 2025



Yeah, that’s the idea!

I’m jotting down everything you’re telling me, but time-wise, it just might work out.

We’ll be north of Lausanne, not in Valais, so we’ll see
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Very close to Sion, you can do the Bisse de Savièse. The history of the bisses (mountain irrigation channels) in Valais is interesting, and the one in Savièse is really nice to walk. No need to pay if you walk along the bisse. Some info here https://www.torrent-neuf.ch/

I went there about a month ago—the bisse was open for two-thirds of the way and then blocked off.

And 10 years ago, I only crossed the first suspension bridge, but my wife was totally stressed, so we had to give up...

Because yes, if you're prone to vertigo, forget this walk. If not, then go for it—it’s really nice! !
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
I actually suffer from vertigo.

I can't do suspension bridges... Even indoor walkways freak me out 🐭
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RU Rudovfer Regular ·
I do suffer from vertigo, actually.

I can't handle suspension bridges... Even indoor walkways freak me out 😅

Definitely skip that bisse then! 😇
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
No way! I checked, never in a million years 😮

I looked up the places suggested on Google, and it really makes me want to spend a few full days in Valais...

We'll see, depending on the weather/accommodation combo. That way, we'll arrive in Chamonix by the end of August—much better 😇
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
No way! I checked, never in a million years

I don’t find it that exposed, honestly. Lots of families do it with kids. Check this one out—it’s way worse 😉 https://www.anzere.ch/fr/experiences/au-fil-de-l-eau/se-balader-le-long-des-bisses/le-grand-bisse-d-ayent-3231

But if you get vertigo, there are other bisses you can do that aren’t as high up.
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There was a bug on VF—I couldn’t upload photos taken at the Aiguille du Midi or delete a message. Today it’s working though! 🙂



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MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
No way! I checked, never in my life

I don’t find it that exposed. Lots of families do it with kids. Check this one out, it’s way worse 😉 https://www.anzere.ch/fr/experiences/au-fil-de-l-eau/se-balader-le-long-des-bisses/le-grand-bisse-d-ayent-3231

But if you get vertigo, there are other bisses you can do that aren’t as high up.

That’s already too much 🐭

A few days in Valais would be nice depending on the weather.

Lake Arolla is really beautiful! Is it less touristy over there?

I’d love to stay in the Bernese Oberland someday, but it seems complicated...

Well, we’ve got to leave the apartment, and it’s hot out—doesn’t make me want to go for a walk 🥵
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TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Lake Arolla is very beautiful! Is it less touristy there, then?

The little blue lake is touristy, but you have to hike to reach it, which still limits the crowds. Maybe go on a weekday instead of the weekend. But it’s far from being super touristy.

As I mentioned in one of my previous posts, Moiry Lake is really nice, and the view is truly stunning. You’re at the foot of the glacier, you can walk around the lakes formed by the glacier, follow the stream, and also stroll along Moiry Lake, which has a gorgeous color. In my photo, those are the lakes formed by the glacier. You can drive there and visit the village of Grimentz on the way back.

If you go to Arolla, stop at the Pyramids of Euseigne to take a photo.

If you have any questions, don’t hesitate—I know the Valais canton well, as well as the Bernese Oberland.

For another trip to Switzerland, if you love mountains and villages with beautifully decorated houses, I recommend the Graubünden canton.

Another stunning canton is Ticino. It’s Switzerland’s version of Italy. ;)

We live near Morges, not far from Lausanne, so if you want tips for this region...

By the way, on a clear day, the view from Dent de Vaulion is lovely.
MI MirandaMouse Globetrotter ·
Alright! How long is the walk to Lac d'Arolla? If the weather’s nice, I’m already thinking we’ll extend our trip to Lausanne. I haven’t looked into accommodations in Valais yet.

I didn’t find any discussions about Graubünden or the Bernese Oberland.

Ticino, yes, but not necessarily this season...

It’s way too hot here right now. We’ll still swing by Olten though.

We took a break in Aarburg for the view.

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