...... Ce qu'il faut savoir avant de partir en visite
- Le village que tu visiteras s'il est "réel" au sens où des gens vivent là sont visités chaque jour par des touristes.
- Les hommes sont la plupart du temps absents car ils gardent leur troupeau de chèvres ailleurs
- Les jeunes sont partagés entre vivre la vie de leurs ainés (nomadisme, élevage) et la vie que l'on peut vivre aujourd'hui (maillot d'équipe de foot, gsm, casquette NYC, etc...)
- Les femmes sont plus sujettes à perpétuer les traditions......
Je suis d'accord avec toi sauf sur la dernière phrase .....
Les femmes sont peut être un peu plus malignes et ont compris qu'en continuant "un peu" les traditions, elles pouvaient le monnayer auprès de riches touristes, en farine de maïs (c'est moins dur que d'écraser le maïs avec une pierre) tabac et autres....
mises à part, celles qui monnaient leurs photos vers le supermarché d'Opuwo et vont ensuite se défoncer à la bière mais c'est peut être aussi une tradition .....
Désolé, là non plus je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi. Il suffit de se documenter un peu pour comprendre que ce sont des femmes qui se battent au quotidien pour préserver leurs traditions, faire capoter le projet de barrage qui noierait la région d'Epupa, etc. Katjambia en est l'archétype…
Pas toutes évidemment, celles qui posent à Opuwo pour taper aux touristes de quoi se payer des bières existent bien… 🙁
Désolé, là non plus je ne suis pas d'accord avec toi. Il suffit de se documenter un peu pour comprendre que ce sont des femmes qui se battent au quotidien pour préserver leurs traditions, faire capoter le projet de barrage qui noierait la région d'Epupa, etc. Katjambia en est l'archétype…
Pas toutes évidemment, celles qui posent à Opuwo pour taper aux touristes de quoi se payer des bières existent bien… 🙁
j'avais mis "peut être" dans mon commentaire. Si tu dis vrai, et je le souhaite, elles rejoignent les nombreux combats des femmes africaines et si l'Afrique change un jour, je pense que ce sera grâce aux femmes. (pour la France, aussi 🏴☠️..... réflexion après un défilé du 14 juillet bien militaire ......qui n'ont quand même pas grand chose à voir avec la prise de la Bastille !!!!).
Super. Nous serons une tribu de 3 4x4 de la même famille. Nous partons ds 2 jours pour fuir ce temps pourri....enfin du ciel bleu. Bon voyage à toi aussi.
nous partons le 21/7 sur Jnb puis continuation sur le cap. Nous traversons ensuite l'Afs pour rejoindre la Namibie puis le botswana, le zimbabwe et retour à jnb le 16/8.
A bientôt peut-être.
Cdt.
Salut, j'y suis !!!
Donc je vais essayer de relater mon circuit au gré des connexions. Ne prenant pas de photos, caméram plutôt, ne me les demander pas.
Bon courage à ceux qui sont en France et encore merci à ceux qui m'ont aidé.
J1 :
Départ de Lyon pour Francfort avec Lufhtansa puis vol sur Windhoek avec Air Namibia. L'enregistrement des bagages malgré deux compagnies différentes a pu se faire à Lyon jusqu'au terminus sans avoir à les reprendre à Francfort. Cela paraît idiot, mais quand l'avion a du retard au départ, et cela a été le cas (je les collectionne les retards d'avion), cela évite de courir durant le transit.. Apparement ce n'est pas systématique, cela dépend de la personne au comptoir d'enregistrement du départ.
Vol sans soucis .
J2:
Arrivée à Windhoek. Un chauffeur de Camping Car Hire nous attend. La prise de possession de véhicule est longue car nous vérifions tout, mais aucun souci. En route vers le premier supermarché juste à côté. On trouve tout sauf un adaptateur avec une prise de terre. Je ne sais pas si cela existe du coup. Finalement avec un peu de bricolage on arrive à faire quelque chose qui va permettre de charger tout le matos.
On se fait à la conduite à gauche peu à peu. Direction le sud avec comme but Bagatelle Lodge dans le Kalahari. On arrive pour le game drive de 15h organisé par le lodge. C'est super, cela vaut le coup car cela permet de voir comment procède un guide pour pister des animaux et en plus c'est une bonne entrée en matière avec le règne animal. Le repas est bon et les chambres sont excellentes surtout après une nuit blanche en avion; On tombe comme des masses.
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Salut à tous. J'ai internet, donc je peux continuer à distiller ça et là des petites infos au gré de mon humeur.
J3:
Nuit à Bagatelle Kalahari Game Ranch : Extraordinaire !
La nuit a vraiment été bonne. Un copieux petit déjeuner, un petit tour vers les guépards de la Cheetah Foundation (bof!) et c'est la route vers Mariental. Beaucoup d'arrêts photos au gré des rencontres animales. La route vers Maltahohe est assez monotone. Je pense que c'est encore plus droit qu'aux USA. Un arrêt à Maltahohe pour faire trois courses, et un premier choc culurel. On prend vite conscience de l'écart qui nous sépare. C'est une sacrée remise en question sur soi.
Route ensuite vers les montagnes Tsaris, avec encore pas mal d'arrêts pour des animaux ( des nouveaux). Arrivée au Zebra River Lodge. Très bon accueil, une petite promenade avec encore des observations d'antilopes. Un apéro, puis le repas dehors près du feu, en compagnie de nos hôtes. C'est sympa, c'est vraiment les vacances
J4:
Nuit à Zebra River Lodge : Le lieu est sympa, mais il nous paraît avoir une atmosphère d'apartheid au niveau des relations entre les propriétaires et les employés qui nous met mal à l'aise. Donc nous avons un sentiment mitigé sur le lieu.
Il était prévu le matin de faire l'Olive Trail, mais nous devons être trop cool, car il nous semble que les temps de route annoncés par Google Map sont trop courts par rapport à notre façon de vivre le voyage!!! Du coup, nous faisons une promenade dans les Tsaris Mountains, d'environ 2 heures, magnifique, et cela nous permet de gagner un peu de temps sur la suite du programme. Route vers Sesriem, et là encore on met plus de temps que prévu. Ce n'est pas grave, car on se régale. Arrivée au camping à l'intérieur du parc, achat du ticket d'entrée, pour une nuit, et donc cela va nous permettre de visiter aujourd'hui et demain. Ensuite, route vers Sesriem Canyon. C'est assez sympa, c'est frais, et nous ne sommes pas nombreux. Ensuite nous choisissons d'aller voir le coucher de soleil, sur la dune Elim, d'après ce que ce qui était dit, était assez simple !!! Mauvaise pioche, car surement que nous sommes partis un peu tard, mais le soleil se couchait plus vite, que ce que nous marchions. Au bout d'un moment, voyant que nous n'arriverions pas à voir ce satané coucher de soleil, nous nous sommes arrêtés, et en bon français que nous sommes, avons sortis l'apéro de nos sacs, et avons trinqué sur cette dune qui s'était refusé à nous. Cela reste, ma foi, un bon souvenir. La descente, tout droit dans la dune a été très sympa. Ensuite, rapidement, nous avons rejoint notre campement, et pour la première fois avons monté les tentes. Bon, il faisait nuit, et on n'a pas été les meilleurs, mais enfin on y est arrivés. Au départ, j'avais promis un resto avec un buffet plein de viandes, mais oubli du nom du dit resto( Sossusvlei Lodge, juste à côté du camping à pied, mais à l'extérieur du parc) et on s'est retrouvé au restaurant du camping. Finalement pas si mal, mais un temps d'attente qui dépasse les records établis. Ensuite direction les tentes pour un premier dodo en camping ( je rappelle que c'est une première pour nous!!!)
J5 :
Nuit à Sesriem Campsite : Difficile de donner un avis objectif sur ce camping, car cela a été nuit blanche. Qu'il est dur de changer certaines habitudes !!!!!
Du coup, à 5h47, la grille du parc était franchie et fissa vers la dune 45. On était parmi les premiers un peu involontairement !! Une escalade assez rapide du tas de sable (aurait dit ma fille) et le spectacle commença. Waouh les changements de couleurs ! La descente n'est pas mal non plus. Chacun son style (tout droit, avec un planté de bâton, en roulé-boulé, sauts de cabri, etc …), mais en tout cas il ne faut pas hésiter. Le petit déjeuner au pied de la dune n'est pas mal du tout.
Route ensuite vers Sossusvlei et Dead Vlei et le fameux passage en 4x4. Encore une première pour moi! Au gré des rencontres, chacun m'avait donné son avis, dégonfler les pneus, faire ci, faire ça. J'y suis allé, j'ai vu et j'ai vaincu. Ce n'est pas la mer à boire, je ne me permettrai pas de donner un conseil technique, mais par contre il ne faut pas hésiter. ( le retour a d'ailleurs été encore plus simple). Marche ensuite vers Dead Vlei et là, le choc. C'est splendide. A l'origine du voyage, je voulais voir les dunes les plus hautes du monde. SERVI ! Je crois que je n'ai pas assez de vocabulaire pour décrire les lieux. Tout le monde est conquis. Le fait de commencer tôt permet d'éviter la chaleur, car cela tape très vite. Le retour vers Sesriem permet d'admirer le paysage avec des couleurs différentes et de faire quelques arrêts photos, dont la classique de l'oryx devant une dune. Route vers Camp Gecko, avec la pause à Solitaire. Du classique apparemment au vu des carnets de voyage, mais c'est sympa.
Installation du campement à Eagle Tent avec une vue du tonnerre de feu. Toilettes ouvertes sur la savane ainsi que la salle de bain. Il faut demander cet emplacement. Après un barbecue de qualité, en avant pour une deuxième nuit en camping. J'ai aperçu gorgui 78 et sa famille, mais pas assez de temps pour faire connaissance en direct live.
J6:
Nuit donc Camp Gecko; Cadre fantastique, mais c'est dur de dormir en camping !! On ne peut pas dire que l'accueil de Heidi ait été très amical. Au vu des carnets de route précédents, je m'attendais à mieux. C'était client/affaire: rien à redire mais sans plus !!
Route vers Walvis Bay, très très longue et monotone, si ce n'est une crevaison au Tropique du Capricorne (au moins c'est original). Arrivée dans la station balnéaire et promenade le long de la lagune. De très belles villas, mais point de flamands roses, dommage.
Repas au resto Lyon des sables tenus par des français, dont le chef vient d'être élu meilleur cuisinier de Namibie. Très grande qualité, à un prix normal. Nous avons ensuite beaucoup discuté avec lui et c'est vraiment un passionné.
Retour au lodge et dodo (avant un peu d'internet, c'est si rare)
Voilà, c'est tout pour aujourd"hui et c'est déjà pas mal
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Merci pour ton récit. Que de souvenirs remontent à la surface!! Bon courage pour les nuits suivantes en camping. Ca a l'air dur pour vous mais lorsque vous rentrerez, il n'en restera aucun mauvais souvenir. 🙂🙂
J' imagine assez bien vos états d' âme de campeurs itinérants néophytes avec la nuit noire à 18h , pour y être passés peu de temps avant ... 🤪
Mais c' est comme les coups de marteau sur la tête , qu' est ce que ça fait du bien quand on arrête 😉 , et qu' on se dit que le prochain soir on sera dans un lodge , avec un petit -déjeuner sympa tout prêt au réveil !
Mais l' aventure , c' est l' aventure ... 😏 Et en compensation " dormir à la belle étoile" prend sous ces cieux tout son sens ! 🙂
Merci bien pour les encouragements. Enfin il faut relativiser, on a connu des moments plus durs 😛.
Je ne sais pas si je vais parler de mauvais souvenir en évoquant le camping.
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Tu décris bien le truc, mais comme on sait vite s'adapter et s'organiser, les apéros barbecues vont nous faire oublier les quelques petits désagréments. Le ciel est tellement beau la nuit que le reste importe peu
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Qu'est ce qui vous gêne le plus ? l'inconfort du lit ? le froid ?
Ma femme ! Non je rigole
Je pense que c'est le froid car le matin, après une nuit pas très bonne le sentiment de froid rajoute une couche, mais on va y arriver, seulement on va consommer un peu plus en alcool, car tout lemonde le sait que cela réchauffe bien.🙂
Sinon, voici la suite de nos aventures, avant très longtemps je pense, puisque cela va être 7 nuits sous la tente, dans des contrées plus paumées les unes des autres.
J7:
Très bonne nuit à Lagoon Lodge, établissement tenu par des lyonnais. Ils sont super sympas, content de rendre service( Wilfried s'est chargé de ma roue crevée et tout et tout). C'est vraiment une excellente adresse, dans un cadre magnifique au bord de la lagune. Je recommande.
Aujourd'hui c'est une journée excursion croisière d'observation des mammifères et 4x4 dans les dunes de Sandwich Harbour.
Situé à 3 min du lodge, la société Mola Mola nous prend en charge, avec tout d'abord le spectacle de l'otarie qui monte à bord du bateau, puis c'est « la route » vers les dauphins. Il y en a un certain nombre qui nagent autour de nous pendant longtemps. Ma femme est ravie, ces bestioles sont vraiment son truc . Ensuite navigation vers Pelican Point et l'observation d'une immense colonie d'otaries. Cela sent pas mal, j'imagine donc à Skeleton Coast ! Au gré des flots nous voyons d'autres bestioles, dont beaucoup d'osieaux.Toutes ces observations d'animaux sont décrites par notre commandant de bord avec moultes explications sur leur mode de vie. Une de notre groupe parlant excellement l'anglais, c'est très instructif, sans avoir à forcer !!!
Le bateau nous dépose ensuite sur un ponton où nous attend Nico, son pote et les deux 4x4 pour la suite des aventures. A la première impression, je me dis, que ces gars là doivent complètement fous (dans le bon sens du terme) et qu'on va passer une journée d'enfer. La suite va me donner raison. Après une longue route au bord de la mer, avec plein de squelettes d'otaries mangées ou non par les chacals, après une observation de flamants roses, c'est un arrêt au point de départ de la piste entre dunes et mer, là ou les dunes géantes se jettent dans l'océan. Pas possible de passer aujourd'hui, mer trop haute, du coup Nico nous dit qu'on va observer par en haut. Là la folie commence, il se met à accélérer vers les dunes, les prendre de face, nous les faire descendre à toute allure, les sauter, tout un tas de trucs qu'on voit à la télé mais qu'on sait même pas que c'est possible. Un vrai fou !! Il nous dit que c'est son bureau ( le plus grand du monde), je pense plutôt que c'est vraiment son terrain de jeu. Après plusieurs moments d'émotion, il nous amène au lieu d'observation de Sandwich Harbour, et là c'est un autre choc. P..... que c'est beau ! Les dunes, l'océan, je ne m'en lasse pas. Ensuite re gymkhana dans les dunes pour se retrouver dans un endroit complètement désert, avec des dunes à perte de vue sur 360 °, le désert dont je rêvais. Là en 3 temps, 3 mouvements, il nous sortent tables chaises, champagne, huitres et diverses salades pour un repas dans un cadre d'une beauté sans nom. Boire une coupe de champagne sud af en plein milieu du désert …..ça fait quelque chose. On a presque envie de faire la sieste, mais on n'a pas le temps car Nico nous promène une nouvelle fois dans les dunes avec son style de conduite … un peu particulier. Tout au long de ce périple et sur le chemin du retour, nous observons plein d'animaux ( chacals, springboks, autruche, etc …) Comment vivent-ils dans ce désert ???? Mystère. Le retour passe par les marais salants de la plus grosse production d'Afrique.
Conclusion : Une chouette excursion, bien dans ce que nous recherchions.
Route ensuite vers Swakopmund après avoir récupéré ma roue au lodge. Wilfried s'est chargé de tout. Arrivée dans notre nouvelle pension, Cornerstone House est son nom. Nos amis sont logés un peu plus loin et le patron leur dit « Pas de soucis, vous allez faire waouh en voyant le lieu » Cela même été triple waouh. Un appartement de 80m² minimum, avec trois chambres, salon, salle à manger, bar, cuisine équipée, etc... On aurait pu tous tenir ici !!! Tous les matériaux utilisés sont d'un luxe incroyable. Qu'il est bon l'apéro que nous prenons avant d'aller au resto tout proche. Il s'appelle, La Jetée, se trouve au fond d'une jetée (!) en bois et sert beaucoup de sushis, tapas ou des poissons divers et variés. Une nouvelle fois, c'est très bon et peu onéreux dans un cadre splendide.
Retour au lodge, un peu d'internet avant longtemps et dodo
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Notre avion décolle dans 4h pour rejoindre la Namibie... Un vrai plaisir de lire vos post en direct live! Nous nous croiserons surement à Etosha, à priori nous y serons aux mêmes dates!
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March or May 2027.
Around 15 days in the Western Cape,
then 15 days in the southern KNP.
Arrival either in PE or George.
The pros know I’m somewhat familiar with the area... that I don’t camp... that my accommodations can be simple and remote, self-catering but with basic comforts... that I’m looking for spots that are a bit off the beaten path... in a relaxed mode...
From George:
Late arrival... need some rest... Herolds Bay from George to the N1.
Tsitsikamma is catching my eye (Storms River)... with or without a stop in Knysna.
Question:
What’s the current condition of the pass from Knysna to Uniondale? R339.
And while I’m at it, the condition of the R340.
Tsitsikamma, Knysna, and my questions still apply if arriving in PE.
Is the Swartberg still closed?
Any recommendations for accommodation in Prince Albert?
If I cross the escarpment, I’ll continue via Anysberg NR, Touwsrivier... any thoughts?
From there... Tankwa Karoo or Mount Cedar (or both).
Then heading back down to the coast... the highlands of Hermanus or Kogelberg NR (any opinions on the latter?).
Or,
A more classic route along the coast...
If I arrive (fairly late) in PE... any ideas for accommodation in that little area?
Given that Nyathi Camp is winking at me...
(For context... a while back, I stayed at Riverbend (same Addo sector, private concession)... and I visited the ruins of that abandoned lodge at the time, which has clearly been renovated since... located in a very quiet part of Addo...).
Any feedback from the pros?
Well, that’s about it...
I’m open to any other tips or advice!
I’m reaching out with a question about which park to choose for a 3-day safari in Kenya.
After 20 days in Uganda, I’m meeting up with my dad for a 3-day safari (that works for him). We’ll be meeting in Nairobi and have a full day to travel to a park (preferably the farthest from Nairobi to avoid crowds?) and spend 4 nights there before heading back to the capital for our flight to France.
I’d love to hear your recommendations since I’ve read so many great tips on this forum.
Hi there,
I’m considering camping in Nyungwe Park with my family (2 adults, 2 kids) at Uwinka campsite. Problem: the park rents the tent but without any gear (mattresses, blankets). We don’t have a car. Is it possible to rent or buy mattresses and blankets near the park, please?
Thanks for your help
Hi, I'm looking for information on the road conditions in Moremi. We're leaving in 15 days, and from what I've heard, the roads are pretty tough to drive on. Any advice?
Thanks
I’m planning a potential trip to Namibia for a classic circuit in April 2027.
I’m surprised by how expensive the accommodations inside the parks are—really steep! Is it possible to stay outside the parks but still close enough to enjoy the game drives?
Do you have any recommendations for more reasonably priced lodging? I’m okay with spending 200 to 250 € per night.
No camping—the friend I’m traveling with absolutely refuses 😉, but maybe upgraded tents would work.
Hello,
We’re planning a route from Maun to Kazane and Victoria Falls for May 2027 in a Toyota Hilux 4x4, staying in lodges (no camping). Here’s the rough outline:
- Maun: Arrival likely from Johannesburg, 2 nights
- Khwai: 2 nights
- Return to Maun
- Need to decide on a stop between Maun and Sepopa?
- Sepopa: 2 nights
- Cross into Namibia: Bagani, 2 nights
- Kongola: 2 nights
- Katima Mulilo: 2 nights
- Kasane: 3 or 4 nights
- Victoria Falls: 1 or 2 nights
- Return to France from Kasane or Victoria Falls
What’s the road condition like between Maun and Khwai? The stop names are approximate based on accommodations.
Thanks for any feedback on this plan!
Ailleurs 64
At the end of July, we’re heading to Namibia with a group of five for a three-week road trip and visit to the national parks.
We’ve read conflicting info about buying entry tickets—either online (where?) or at the gate when we arrive?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the agencies you used to plan your trip to Uganda.
There’s the whole issue of gorilla permits, which need to be booked in advance and involve a significant financial commitment. That’s where I’m at with my trip planning. Between checking lutb.go.ug/ and reading online reviews, it’s hard to move forward with confidence.
I contacted the French Embassy, but they don’t provide any recommendations. I almost booked with an agency that had a really bad review from February specifically about the permit process.
How did you go about choosing your agency? Given the large sum involved, I’m this close to booking through a travel agency in France for this part.
From what I understand, no matter which agency books the permit, you’re ultimately guided by professionals trained for gorilla trekking based on the permit itself? I’m assuming that’s how it works.
Thanks for your feedback, and I’m really happy to see the forum’s new energy—it’s been super helpful to me in the past.
We’re heading to Uganda next summer for three weeks with our two kids, who’ll be 7 and 9 years old.
We’ve been to Southern Africa before but not East Africa, and after a trip to South Africa two years ago, the kids wanted to return to Africa, while we wanted to explore a new region while staying independent... Uganda’s been catching our eye for a while, and with Rwandair offering relatively attractive prices, we’re going for it!
We’ll be traveling in a 4x4 (self-drive) with roof tents. I don’t have any 4x4 driving experience, so it’ll be a first for me, but we’ll manage 😉 No great apes for us—kids need to be 15, and we don’t want to do that experience without them.
I don’t usually ask the forum much for trip planning, but this time, I’d love your thoughts and advice!
First question: Karamoja or not? At first glance, if we want to add it to a "classic" loop in the southwest, it doesn’t seem realistic—too packed, too much driving. We could consider doing the full loop via Kidepo and then heading down to Murchison, but I’m worried the trip might feel less varied and less kid-friendly. That said, the region looks stunning, and I’m struggling to accept not going at all... What do you think?
If we skip Karamoja, we’d do a loop: Murchison/Fort Portal/QENP/Bunyonyi/Mburo, which seems pretty comprehensive and would let us take our time, which is nice. A few random questions:
- How much time should we plan for the Fort Portal area? I was thinking at least 3 days to visit Bigodi Swamp, walk around the craters, and maybe do a community walk (any thoughts on that?).
- Between Murchison Falls and the Fort Portal area, is it worth breaking up the drive? I spotted Lake Albert Safari Lodge on the shores of Lake Albert—it’s not too expensive and looks nice.
- I’d love to do some easy walks/hikes at the foot of the Rwenzori Mountains, ideally without a guide, but it doesn’t seem straightforward. Do you know if it’s possible to do nice walks independently? I’ve read about hikes in the hills near Kilembe but nothing very specific. Maybe staying somewhere at the foot of the mountains, like Ruboni Community Camp, would allow that.
- Lake Mutanda looks really cool, and so does Lake Bunyonyi... Ideally, I’d like to see both, but won’t that feel repetitive? Is Lake Mutanda worth the detour?
Last practical question, since we don’t have experience with this: for the car with kids, would you recommend two tents (a bit more space) or a four-person tent?
I’ll stop here—already a lot of questions...
Thanks in advance for your feedback, and looking forward to exchanging ideas!
Gabriel
We’re planning our second trip to South Africa in July 2026. In 2023, we did a loop from Joburg, Golden Gate, Drakensberg, Hluhluwe, St Lucia, Eswatini, Kruger, Blyde River Canyon, and back to Joburg.
This time, we’d like to go to Cape Town and do a road trip to Port Elizabeth, then fly back to Joburg to return to Kruger. At this stage of my planning, here’s what it could look like:
D1 to D4: Cape Town and Cape of Good Hope (Table Mountain, Lion’s Head, Waterfront, Bo-Kaap, Boulders, Cape Point, Chapman’s Peak Drive). I’ve spotted a few places to stay between Camps Bay and Hout Bay (3 nights).
D5 and D6: Either Karoo NP or Hermanus and De Hoop. Any opinions to tip the scales? I’ll admit I’m already leaning toward Karoo (the "wild" vibe of the landscapes and wildlife encounters appeal to me much more than the seaside, which feels less exotic). If we go for Karoo, where should we stay? Inside the park or in Beaufort West? I’ve seen good reviews for Ko-ka Tsara Bush Camp, but maybe it’s better to stay in the Sanparks cottages to make the most of the park? (2 nights)
Option B is to do Stellenbosch (though vineyards aren’t great in winter) and/or the Whale Route—Betty’s Bay, Hermanus, De Hoop (2 nights near Gansbaai).
D7 and D8: Klein Karoo, Oudtshoorn. Staying at De Cango Guest Farm (2 nights).
D9 and D10: Knysna, Robberg Nature Reserve, Tsitsikamma (2 nights in Plettenberg Bay and 1 night in PE).
D11: Flight from Port Elizabeth to Joburg at 7 AM and drive to Marloth Park.
For Kruger, I’ve booked 2 nights in Marloth Park, 1 night in Skukuza, 2 nights in Satara, and 1 night in Talamati, which we loved. I’ll book the last night in Graskop later since we want to revisit the Blyde Canyon area.
I’d love all the feedback you can give on my itinerary, especially for days 5 and 6.
If you have recommendations for accommodations for 4 people, I’d appreciate those too.
Thanks! 🙂
We’re a family of four (two daughters aged 18 and 21) and we’re planning a three-week trip to Tanzania. Zanzibar would be our main base, but we’d also like to do a safari on the mainland.
Could you share any tips on:
- the ideal length for such a safari, the best place to go during this period (and easily accessible by flight from Zanzibar)
- your recommendations for the most suitable type of stay for a family like ours
- reliable local agencies with reasonable prices that could help us with this plan
Hi everyone, I’m here to get some advice on visiting KRUGER Park.
From what I’ve gathered through my reading, I understand there are two ways to visit the park:
- Independently with your own vehicle
=> Do you drive all day?
- By booking with a professional
=> Safari early in the morning and late in the afternoon. But what do you do in between?
When it comes to accommodations, the options are:
- Booking in one of the park’s camps, where the lodging is basic but functional
- Booking in a private reserve, which is more comfortable but prohibitively expensive
- Booking outside the park, which means entering the park every morning. But if you want to stay for 3 days, that doesn’t seem practical to me.
Do you have any advice for accommodations?
To be honest, I’m really struggling to understand how it all works...
Thanks to everyone for your help.
Bidule 27
Hey everyone!
Heading to Namibia in a few days and I just read that the entry fees for all parks in Namibia have skyrocketed. Increases between 86 and 100%, and this has been in effect since April 1st (no joke). Have any of you heard about this, and if so, do you know if it’s actually being enforced?
For example, the fee for Etosha has gone from 150 NAD to 280 NAD per day per person.
Thanks in advance!
I’m really interested in traveling to South Africa in September 2020. My question is whether I should go on an organized tour or plan my own itinerary. Organized trips are pretty expensive $$$$, but the security aspect reassures me. I’d love to hear your thoughts on safety in South Africa and whether it’s easy to arrange activities like visiting vineyards, Cape Town, and going on a safari on our own. Which is better in terms of cost—booking an organized trip or doing it ourselves? It’s definitely less exciting to follow a group for 10 days. We’re a couple in our 50s who love nature.
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We’re heading out in April 2027 with our 4x4 to explore part of Southern Africa. Right now we’re researching all these beautiful countries and deciding where to ship our vehicle. We’re from Le Havre—has anyone here already shipped from that port to South Africa or East Africa?
As for all these countries, is wild camping allowed, tolerated, easy, or difficult?
We’ve already visited a few, but you can read just about anything online, so getting tips from real independent travelers is way better :)
We’re all ears for any hacks, experiences, or spots you’d recommend.
See you on the road with Doddy
Hi,
I’m starting to plan a great trip for the last three weeks of January 2027 (my first time in South Africa).
After spending a few hours (!) browsing this forum, here’s a rough first draft of my itinerary:
D0 Arrival at JNB
D1, D2 Blyde River Canyon
D3, D4, D5, D6, D7: Kruger
D8, D9, D10: St Lucia and surrounding area
D11, D12, D13, D14: Drakensberg + Lesotho
D15 A very long driving day to the south (hope the AC doesn’t break down!)
D16, D17, D18, D19 southwest coast (so far I’ve noted Oudtshoorn, Robberg Nature Reserve, Wilderness NP, De Hoop Reserve, and a bit of the wine route)
D20, D21 Cape Town (peninsula and a bit of the city) + domestic flight and return flight (departure from JNB at 11 PM)
A few questions before refining this:
- Do you see any major issues with this itinerary?
- We don’t have a choice on dates, and personally, I prefer green landscapes to desert ones anyway, but do you really see far fewer animals in January than in the dry season? Five days in Kruger should give us enough time to spot plenty of different animals despite the tall grass, right? As for the heat, we’re from Réunion, so we’re relatively used to it, even though I know it’s not the same type of heat.
- Can I trust the distances and driving times given by Google Maps?
- Picking up the vehicle in Johannesburg and dropping it off in Cape Town: how much might that cost us? I’m thinking it probably won’t be worse (in terms of time or money, since there are five of us—2 adults + 3 kids) than going back to Joburg after Lesotho, taking a flight to Cape Town, and renting another vehicle... but maybe I’m wrong.
- Finally, wouldn’t it be better to focus on just one of the two regions (either the northeast or Cape Town and the south coast)? If it were up to me, I’d stick to the first part and extend a few stops... but not everyone agrees! And we’re thinking that since it’ll be really hot, a second part of the trip that’s a bit """cooler""" would be welcome.
I imagine many of you have been captivated by the Masai Mara park and/or your safari experience with Tony Crocetta/Melting Pot Safari. Still, I’d like to share my perspective.
First, I’m an avid traveler, especially in love with Africa, which my partner and I have explored a bit (Zambia, South Africa, Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Namibia...).
That said, I want to express my deep disappointment with both the Masai Mara and Tony Crocetta’s camp, Melting Pot Safari, where we stayed last year.
First, about the park: it’s stunning, no doubt. But what a highly touristy place! I can’t find the words to describe the horror of being among 30 4x4 vehicles lined up in front of a lioness hunt, let alone encircling her right after her kill while her prey is still alive in her jaws... no respect for wildlife. The same goes for surrounding a young leopard playing with its small prey, a moment when I counted over 50 vehicles, most with their engines running... sickening. I turned away, both my gaze and my camera. What a disaster to see this natural wonder of Africa turned into a tourist hotspot.
Yes, I loved this place on Earth, but no, I won’t "promote" it anywhere or to anyone.
Next, I also wanted to share my dissatisfaction with Tony Crocetta’s famous camp, Melting Pot Safari: where to begin? We booked a private vehicle for four with two friends, and I have no complaints about the vehicle itself (though it obviously came at a cost). The windows and the vehicle weren’t very photo-friendly, but let’s move on.
The trip between the sisters’ guesthouse (which was fine) and the camp went smoothly, except we arrived a bit too late. Result: "We’ll leave for the safari an hour later today because the driver has to respect his rest hours." Perfect—with park formalities, we only spent about an hour in the park that evening. The safari got off to a great start...
During our 12-day stay, we saw some amazing things. Tony wasn’t at the camp—I don’t know what the atmosphere is like when he’s there, but it was rather cold during our trip. Sylvie, his wife, barely looked at us, never asking how our day, night, or game drive went (I think she spoke to us once during the stay, plus the day we arrived, of course). We felt invisible... (if I were mean, I’d say the money had already been deposited into Melting Pot’s bank account.)
The evening meals, if I may say so, were a joke: not enough dessert (aside from fruit, but the few elaborate desserts—like 10 for 18 guests) for everyone, barely enough meat or sides. If you were unlucky like us and ended up with a group of 15 people who decided to skip the starter, you’d better hurry to get your main course, or there might not be any left—and no refills... We always ate our fill, but sometimes we had to serve ourselves in advance.
Finally, I want to correct something about the quality of the meals: seriously, this buffet was really mediocre and far from the culinary standards I’d read about in my pre-trip research (see their Facebook page).
Anyway, let’s move past the food—after all, the avocados were sublime, and we’re not there primarily to eat.
About the tent: the river views were beautiful, and the beds were very comfortable. No running water, individual showers outside the tent, and dry toilets—but it’s Africa, so we weren’t shocked. However, I’m disappointed that for this "modest" price, I wasn’t warned there’d be no soap (and no, I don’t travel with my own soap—and for the price, a little bar in the tent wouldn’t be a luxury). But let’s move on—the hippo views were fantastic. Oh, and to preserve the Masai Mara’s water (which makes sense) and for hygiene reasons, underwear isn’t washed by the camp staff—fair enough. But then what’s that little sign next to the bed? Oh right, for a hefty sum, underwear suddenly becomes "washable"...
Finally, my biggest gripe is about the essential part: the game drives. In France, they sell you a dream with a "photo safari" (what’s the difference, really? A room with a few more electrical outlets?). They promise guides especially suited for photography (not a given, sorry) and vehicles that can get close to animals and go off-road... but here’s the catch: the guides are bound by park laws and hounded by rangers looking to fine rule-breakers. Result: as soon as a white ranger vehicle is spotted, we have to abandon our spot for a wild chase through the grass. Fun once... The next day, we learned that another group’s guide got caught and had to pay $100 for breaking the rules—a sum he casually asked the travelers in his vehicle to cover... because of course, Melting Pot lures tourists with dreams, the poor rangers try to get close, all while breaking park laws... and they break those laws for Crocetta’s company, which, of course, won’t dip into its profits to pay the fines. Basically, it’s "keep the clients happy, but don’t get fined—or the fines are on you or you’ll have to ask the clients directly." Nice boss! Anyway, there were long discussions about this last year, especially among the guests in the fined vehicle. My partner and I found these practices unacceptable, and we were deeply disappointed by this attitude.
I know many people adore this park and/or this company—maybe you were luckier... or maybe you’re less demanding than we are when it comes to respecting rules, nature, and clients. But after traveling through much of southern Africa, I can tell you we personally came back frustrated from this experience and aren’t eager to return... You’ve been warned.
Here’s my feedback after a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, months of prep exchanges (over eight months!), and phone calls right up to departure day, the guide didn’t honor the commitments we’d agreed on.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com—who we’d organized everything with—didn’t meet us as promised when we arrived in Addis Ababa. Without any warning, he sent a different guide to accompany us for the entire trip (with a flimsy excuse).
Several parts of the signed quote weren’t respected:
– Services included in the quote but not provided on-site (meals, water),
– Hotels we’d chosen, booked, and paid for were swapped for lower-category places,
– Visits were canceled because the timing wasn’t calculated properly,
– One stop on the itinerary was dropped without any reason or explanation.
We’d paid a deposit for domestic flights, with a promise to refund any overpayment. A month after returning, 150 € per person (there were three of us) still hasn’t been refunded.
I’m sharing this to warn fellow travelers about the importance of solid guarantees to ensure contracts are actually honored. Double-check everything before committing!
Wishing everyone safe and smooth travel prep—Ethiopia is an incredible country!
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Hello,
Feedback following a recent trip to Ethiopia, organized with a local guide.
Despite a signed quote, numerous preparatory exchanges over eight months, and phone calls right up until the day of departure, the guide did not fulfill his commitments.
Haile Haftu FANUAILE, manager of the agency www.charmethiopiantours.com with whom we had organized everything, did not meet us as agreed upon our arrival in Addis Ababa; without warning us, he sent another guide in his place to accompany us throughout the trip (with a bogus excuse).
Several points in the signed quote were not honored:
– services included in the quote but not provided on site (meals, water),
– hotels chosen, booked, and paid for, replaced by lower-category establishments,
– visits canceled due to lack of time, which had not been calculated correctly,
– one stop on the itinerary canceled without reason or explanation.
A deposit had been paid for the booking of domestic flights, with a commitment to refund the overpayment.
To date, one month after our return, 150 € per person (there were three of us) has still not been refunded.
This testimony is intended to alert travelers to the importance of solid guarantees for contracts that are actually honored, so that everyone can be extra vigilant before committing.
Good luck with your travel preparations, everyone.
Ethiopia is an extraordinary country!
Hello,
With so many agencies out there, we're feeling a bit lost. Could you please share your experience—like recommending your agency if you were happy with them—and tell us why, and if possible, what budget we should expect? Feel free to send it in a private message :)
We’re just the two of us, and ideally, we’d like to go in a 4x4 alone or with another couple, or in a very small group.
Hi there,
I’ve reached out to a few agencies for a week-long family safari next summer before heading to Zanzibar.
So far, the itinerary looks like this:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 3: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 4: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 5: Drive to Serengeti and safari in Seronera
Day 6: Serengeti and overnight near Lobo
Day 7: Serengeti and overnight in Seronera
Day 8: Flight from Seronera to Zanzibar
On paper, it covers "everything," but maybe there’s a bit too much time lost on the road... Any alternatives?
To simplify (and cut costs), I was thinking:
Day 1: Late arrival at JRO and overnight in Arusha
Day 2: Arusha National Park with a walking safari and meeting the Maasai (?)
Day 3: Drive to Tarangire, park visit, and overnight in Tarangire
Day 4: Full day in Tarangire
Day 5: Tarangire, drive to and overnight in Karatu
Day 6: Ngorongoro and overnight in Ngorongoro
Day 7: Morning in Manyara or Natron and drive to JRO
Day 8: Flight to Zanzibar
Your thoughts and recommendations are welcome...
Thanks
We have the opportunity to spend about ten days somewhere for Christmas, and I’m really tempted by Zanzibar. I’ve been dreaming for a long time about the Spice Island, Stone Town, diving...
Which hotels could you recommend? Not a big "resort"—we’re more into "boutique hotels" or even an Airbnb house. Somewhere quiet (we’re not party animals).
I’m thinking of staying the first few nights in Stone Town and then moving to a beach, preferably one where we can swim regardless of the tides, without ending up in seaweed and mud at low tide.
I’m a bit lost with all the beaches because apparently, the north is very crowded, the south is very windy, and the east has some good and some not-so-good spots, with big tides or not... HELP! 🤪
I’d like to limit myself to a maximum of 2 different places to stay over the 10 days.
I’m reaching out because I don’t understand how Volcanoes National Park works.
I looked at booking for the gorillas, but there’s just the price listed, and the same goes for the Diane Fossey tomb.
So I contacted a hotel in Kinigi, and they told me that for the gorillas, you need a car to get to the park headquarters, and then once you know your group, you need to get from the headquarters to the trekking start point?? Do you confirm this? Is that really how it works? They say the hotel has a driver and it would cost 100 DOLLARS!!
I just found out that on top of the permit, there are other fees??? Uhh…
Are there other options, knowing I don’t want to rent a 4x4 since I’m traveling alone?
And if I don’t get the gorilla permit but just want to visit the Diane Fossey tomb, is it the same issue? From Kinigi, do you need a 4x4? How far is the tomb from the headquarters? Is it a hike you can do alone OR DO YOU NEED A GUIDE, ON FOOT? By car??
If someone could explain everything to me… and is the DF Foundation different??
If I decide to go through an agency, is it possible in Musanze (which would save me trips) or is it mandatory to go through Kigali?
Thanks so much for your help…
Best regards
I’m in the middle of planning a road trip in Southern Africa, and I’m specifically working on the itinerary—especially the distances.
I’ve got the time, but I’m struggling with the transfer days (so much driving just to end up spending the whole day on the road). That’s why I’m trying to analyze travel times, even if it means adding extra stops.
My highlights in Zimbabwe would be:
- Hwange
- Victoria Falls (and maybe Matusadona)
- Mana Pools
- Harare
- Gonarezhou
- Great Zimbabwe
But the distances and travel times seem huge (over 4 hours each time), and I don’t see how to make the drives more chill or shorten them—even if it means adding stops (but which ones?) between each leg.
Would anyone be able to estimate the travel time between these highlights and maybe suggest some nice stops to take breaks?
I’ve been to Rwanda twice before, in November 1991 and December 1993, mostly for solidarity work.
I’m looking into going back this November or December for three weeks, but I’m a bit hesitant when I see the tourist offerings—it’s so far from how I like to travel...
I travel solo using public transport and stay in places like guesthouses (GH), or accommodations run by cooperatives, associations, or religious groups. I love villages, markets, hikes, and local crafts.
So far, my searches for these kinds of lodging options haven’t turned up much.
For now, I’m considering visiting (in no particular order):
Butare: Kibeho, Bisesero, Nyanza
Ngenda
Akagera, Kibungo, Lake Muazi
Dian Fossey’s tomb (with the possibility of seeing gorillas)
Kibuye??? Is the political situation stable there? Or Cyangugu?
So here are my first questions:
-Is French still widely spoken?
-Are there lists of the types of accommodations I mentioned above, or places to find that info?
-Is what I’m planning doable using public transport? From the towns, are moto-taxis still available to get to villages, sites, and—most importantly—back?
-Is it possible to go hiking solo?
-Which are the best markets and what days are they held?
I know that’s a lot of questions already, and I really appreciate any relevant answers you can share.
Looking forward to exchanging more!
I’m planning my next trip in September, and after two self-drive trips to Botswana last year, I’d love to explore Kruger. Since I’m used to camping, I’m thinking of renting an equipped van from Kitted Africa (a small Suzuki van—thanks Safari Expert!) to sleep in a tent and occasionally in a hut.
Here’s my provisional itinerary, and I’d love to hear your thoughts if you don’t mind.
I’ve got 13 nights to plan in Kruger. The rental company is based in Nelspruit.
Entering from the south:
14-15-16.09: 3 nights at Crocodile Bridge or Lower Sabie
17-18-19.09: 3 nights at Skukuza
20-21.09: 2 nights at Satara
22-23-24.09: 3 nights at Olifants
25-26.09: 2 nights at Tamboti or Talamati
Exiting the park on 27.09 via Orpen Gate, then heading to Blyde River Canyon for a night in a hotel or elsewhere.
28.09: Return to Nelspruit, drop off the van, and stay in a hotel.
29.09 (midday): Airlink flight to Johannesburg, then an evening return flight to GVA.
What do you think? Too many nights here, not enough there?
I’ll be traveling solo, I love driving, and I enjoy settling in the middle of nature to listen, observe, and take photos (Botswana was perfect for that).
Thanks in advance!
Nicole
Photo: Baines Baobab, Botswana, April 2025
I’d like to return to Africa and stay in a lodge where I can see animals—not necessarily the Big Five—without needing any transport once I arrive at the lodge, and at a price under $250 per day for two people with full board. The week-long stay is planned for late June into early July. I’m looking for suggestions. Thanks in advance!
Hi, I’d like to travel to Ethiopia as a solo 60-year-old woman, backpacking style, between December 2025 and January 2026.
I’m wondering about the current state of the country: unrest, safety concerns, etc.
Government websites advise against going, saying it’s too dangerous.
But I’m skeptical—they tend to be overly cautious.
So I’m looking for reliable information, though I’m not sure where to find it.
Thanks in advance!
Hello,
We’re a group of four seventy-something retirees and we’re planning a 4-week trip to South Africa. We’re seasoned "adventurers" used to multi-week stays (we’ve been to India seven times, Mexico, Thailand, Laos, Myanmar, Australia, etc.).
For South Africa, we’re thinking of covering most of the trip in a private vehicle and taking flights for inter-state transfers.
We’re interested in meeting people, learning about the country’s evolution, exploring major cities, visiting traditional villages, and seeing wildlife.
Here’s the itinerary we’re considering:
Johannesburg – 2 days (we’ll pass through again later)
Pretoria – 2 days
Blyde River Canyon and Graskop – 1 day
Acornhoek – 1 day
Letaba – 2 days
Lobamba – 2 days
Johannesburg – 1 day
Flight to Cape Town
Cape Town – 3 days
Cape of Good Hope – 1 day
Stellenbosch – 1 day
Hermanus – 1 day
Mossel Bay – 2 days
Oudtshoorn
Wilderness – 2 days
Knysna
Port Elizabeth – 2 days
Addo Elephant Park
Flight back to Johannesburg
Johannesburg – 1 day
Return to Paris
Could you share your thoughts on this itinerary? We’ll be renting a vehicle to explore both regions.
We can easily add 4–5 more days to the trip if needed.
We’re looking at traveling either between April and May 2026 or in October/November 2026.
I’ll follow up later to discuss the best safari options and get a rough budget estimate.
Thanks to everyone who takes the time to read this and share their thoughts!
