Autumn trip from Puglia to Naples via Basilicata...
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BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Thanks, and for the photos too!

Have a great day.
Brigitte
MI Mick013 Veteran ·
hi there before they were Roman, Puglia was Greek; there’s still a small area (I’ve been there) near Lecce called Grecìa Salentina. You’ll see a few official bilingual signs (Greek-Italian), and according to my guide (Michelin) the locals supposedly speak a Greek dialect. I think it’s mostly folklore though—the old guys playing cards in a bar (I doubt they were tourists) were speaking Italian.

Hey Mick, I never got past Latin... thanks!

Have a great day.
JO Jourdes Regular ·
Thanks Mick013

Based on my research, this is what I found!!
Marie-Benoîte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
A few days to catch our breath! Beach stay in Maratea, on the Tyrrhenian Sea.

We haven’t left Basilicata yet: from Matera to its coastal counterpart and near-homonym, we had the choice between two routes—one via Altamura and the Gravine, and the other heading south, not far from Aliano and Craco, which served as the setting for Carlo Levi’s novel. He even requested to be buried in Aliano. That’s the route we took: we headed straight down to Pescheria and from there, took the small road crossing the Calanchi. The landscapes are absolutely stunning!





The Calanchi are fragile clay mountains rising from farmland, olive groves, and fields. In the middle of this arid, almost lunar landscape, Craco stands atop a mountain. Frequent landslides and earthquakes explain the many warning signs along the road, and Craco’s site can only be visited on a guided tour.



Even farther from “civilization” lies the village of Aliano, now a museum-village dedicated to Carlo Levi... The only tourists we met—aside from a few utility vehicles driven by locals—were a motorhome with two couples from northern Italy. They parked behind us, eyes wide, when Craco appeared on its mountain. They were peacefully discovering regions of their own country they barely knew and were surprised to meet us there. It was a lovely moment of connection!

We continued along a road flanked by mountains and greenery toward Lagonegro, then a narrow path with a thousand twists and hairpin turns—until the reward: Sapri... and the blue sea!

See you soon!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Here’s the sea again, and we’ve switched coasts: we chose this spot as the perfect relaxing interlude, based on those enchanting photos we found online. A quick geographical description, inspired by Wikipedia or its equivalent: Maratea hugs the Tyrrhenian Sea and occupies a stunning location; its coastline is a patchwork of small bays, beaches, and rocks, while the mountains of the hinterland, covered in pine forests, plunge straight into the sea: the views are breathtaking.

Take my word for it—it’s even better in real life! A picture’s worth a thousand words:





I’ll spare you the historical details: countless churches, isolated villages, and high-altitude trails. If we’d stayed longer—and if we hadn’t been so exhausted from the steep walks in Puglia’s villages and then nearly *finished off* by Matera’s stairs—you’d have gotten the full rundown! We slept and ate each evening at an idyllic hotel where we were pampered. It was the very end of the season, around September 27th, and most Italians were back at work... Too many people would’ve been unpleasant, but too few felt a little... gloomy. There was a bit of a crowd one weekend evening, though. View from the terrace:



And from our room:



Still, I can’t even imagine our disappointment if the sun hadn’t been out! The town of Maratea isn’t really a town at all—it’s a collection of hamlets scattered over 30 km, with no seaside strip of shops or restaurants. It’s made up of many small settlements, some closer to the water than others; a few have charming little ports like Marina and Porto, while others sit higher up, like Acquafredda, where we stayed. Important heads-up: the Saturday morning market means the road is closed! A 20 km detour is mandatory...

Our only daily dilemma was picking *the* beach to spend a few hours at—based on sand vs. pebbles, whether there was a bar, and... how easy it was to get there! Let me explain: along the Gulf of Policastro, where we were, there’s only one road, and it’s dizzying and packed—one side the sea, the other the mountain. The coast has over twenty beaches, and access usually involves a sharp turn and a steep descent... The first route the GPS suggested was often a rocky, uphill trail that our car couldn’t handle, and after all the blind U-turns, my husband—exhausted—asked me to keep it simple!

I’d recommend our first pick: ‘o Macaro beach, a mix of sand and gravel, for its (relatively) easy access, its stunning setting between two rocky cliffs, its umbrellas (12 € for two, with two sunbeds), and its bar—you’ve got to go!





Its parking lot (5 € for the day) is worth the trip, nestled in a forest of umbrella pines!



This beach is below Acquafredda, under the towering Christ the Redeemer statue that overlooks the coast. In the evening, you can wrap up your day with a fantastic seafood meal at Osteria 1999 in Porto, right by the little harbor, of course!!!



These were the three days of ‘Luxury, calm, and pleasure’ on our trip... Tomorrow, if you’re still with me, the final chapter in Campania...
Brigitte
PA PapJ59 Globetrotter ·
Good evening Brigitte,

and what a job you’ve done again...

Bravo, it’s really interesting and detailed. I now understand why I should plan 2 full days in Matera, plus all those earlier tips.

My Belgian and Swiss friends are my travel guardian angels!

Best wishes to all of you (B.D.M.S) Jean
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MG Mguibentif Globetrotter ·
We stayed at Hotel Martino in Marina di Maratea. We went up to Maratea. Parked at the bottom of the town and walked up—there’s still a pretty big built-up area around Piazza Buraglia. Didn’t get around to visiting the surrounding hamlets.
Mathilde
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi there, I just saw your question while re-reading my post: yes, that’s exactly it! As soon as we picked them up, he left... We wouldn’t have been able to carry them back comfortably, even though just one suitcase was left in the car...

Have a great evening!
Brigitte
HI Hiacinthe Globetrotter ·
Hi Brigitte,

The coastal scenery is stunning 😎

Thanks so much for all the info and the amazing photos 😏

Cheers,

Christine
Hiacinthe
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hey there, I was worried you’d dropped off! In a few days, I’ll post some practical info and, most importantly, the highlights (and lowlights...) of the trip—let me know what lessons you’ve learned afterward!

I’m back in my role as Ms. Weather: in Brussels, it’s bright sunshine—the trees, still leafy and russet, are glowing! Cheers!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Mathilde, I’m adding a few photos of Maratea just for you—I was wondering if anyone knew this place! I read (about your hotel) that May isn’t ‘in season,’ and neither is September! It must be tough for people who rely on tourism to make their yearly income in just 3 months! The day after we arrived, we went to Maratea (the town). We drove around wondering where to park and opted for ‘outside the town center’—we got lucky: just 100 meters away. The road to get there,



under the Christ the Redeemer statue:



It was a weekday morning, and we walked through the alleys around the square: pastel-colored facades, no tourist shops at this time of year but grocery stores, butchers... and lots of small local shops with old-fashioned window displays showing only textiles—dish towels (or ‘torchons’ as the French say), doilies, and table sets. We figured there must be a factory nearby—and sure enough, there is! Along the cobblestone streets, the sidewalks are inlaid with ceramic tiles:



I’m including a photo of a bag I bought there, featuring Maratea’s iconic ‘lighthouse’ design...



A quick question: what route brought you to Maratea? It’s such a hidden gem, barely known to ‘outsiders’ like us!

Have a great day!
Brigitte
MG Mguibentif Globetrotter ·
On the way back from Sicily by car (we had taken the ferry on the way there), exactly on May 10, 2013... 😉

https://voyageforum.com/discussion/sicile-malte-retour-par-italie-continentale-avril-mai-2013-d5993939/
Mathilde
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi there, It was a great adventure too!

I really liked: " We're on the SS18, we turn at the Marina di Maratea junction, and we end up at the beach, a dead-end road. Okay, my paper map must not be accurate... We head back up to the road, we go to the Port of Maratea to ask for directions..."

Same for us, it was something we rarely see, and we thought it was just age... but not only that: phew!!! and also " Off to Sapri...: Small road, we're not moving fast... Spectacular views. Not recommended for those who are afraid of narrow, winding roads..."

We weren’t scared at all... but don’t push it!!! That explains why we didn’t move around much in Maratea!

I’ll continue... on the flat; have a great day!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
A truly beautiful spot, indeed—lesser-known (almost a hidden gem!) and less crowded, but just as stunning as the Amalfi Coast! I’d also compare it, depending on the views and hikes, to the trails of the Cinque Terre: best explored on foot, not just 'in passing.' You’ll want to set aside at least three days to really soak it in...

Have a great day, cheers.
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
If you're reading this, thanks for sticking around! We're leaving Basilicata for Campania, destination: Paestum, which will be the last stop on our journey before heading back...

From Maratea, we head back up to Sapri via the winding road you know (hello, Campania!) and from there, we make our way to Agropoli. To our surprise, we're no longer following the coast but taking a highway, and we arrive in Paestum by midday.

Why the rush? Well, in Paestum, besides the famous Greek temples, there's a wonderful museum we want to revisit... but of course, it's closed on Mondays. Tomorrow, we'll find something else to do on our last day before returning!

A cultural stop: absolutely! But this is an exceptional site that combines history and the beauty of a natural landscape!

We let ourselves be guided to a parking lot—owners take advantage of the influx of travelers to rent out their land at a premium! The site is now enclosed by a walled perimeter, and you enter through two gates: to the south, the Gate of Justice, where we are now.

On Sunday, we won’t be alone—all the walkers are out with kids, strollers, and... dogs, along the Via Magna Grecia, which leads north to the Porta Aurea. The landscape is typical, arid and scorched by the sun, with a few umbrella pines providing some shade.



The further we go, the more souvenir shops and bars pop up. We quickly agree: first, we’ll grab something to eat, and then—off to explore the site! Near Naples, the choice was obvious...



Let’s enter the archaeological site: first, note that these temples are the best-preserved Greek temples known, and all three are in the Doric style—the most classic and simple. Just look at the column sculptures and capitals! The names they’ve been given date back to the 18th century and don’t match reality at all... To keep it simple, I’ve arranged the photos in chronological order, which doesn’t match the order of the visit.

First, the oldest: the Temple of Hera, also called the Basilica, dating back to around 550 B.C. Next to the other two, it gives off a certain heaviness due to its dimensions and the thickness of its columns. The pediments, called metopes, are missing—some are on display in the museum.







Next, see the Temple of Athena, also called the Temple of Ceres: its architecture is more harmonious, and it dates back to 500 B.C.





Finally, we reach the Temple of Neptune, the best-preserved of them all! It was built around 450 B.C. Its proportions follow the Golden Ratio, like the Parthenon in Athens, and it exudes perfect harmony and power. At sunset, the effect is stunning, enhanced by the beautiful golden light...



A note from the math enthusiast in me: the Golden Ratio is a remarkable number, especially for architects. Using it gives a building an obvious balance. For those unfamiliar, the length of the building equals the width multiplied by 1.62... (the approximate value of the famous Golden Ratio!). Between the temples, a modern sculpture stands out beautifully against the backdrop!



I’ll skip the other remains of the ancient city, and we head straight to the museum—some lovely surprises await us there!
Brigitte
DO Dominike Veteran ·
In my opinion, you're going to love Brigitte's gorgeous travel journal about Puglia and more—it's packed with great tips and stunning photos ;) After you've read Sissi's too ;)

Matera: we absolutely fell in love with it too—definitely worth spending 2 days there!!!

Happy planning😎

Dominike
DO Dominike Veteran ·
Darn, that’s really not my kind of road (Maratea)! I’m *terrified* of roads like that 🤪! But it’s so gorgeous in photos—I can at least imagine what it’s like 😎😎😎
FR Frampton37 ·
Hi there,

I’m still following along from my snowy Quebec! What a beautiful trip you had—so well summarized! We’ve been wanting to visit southern Italy for a long time. Your tips will be super helpful for planning.
Josiane
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Josiane, I’m so glad my story gave you some travel ideas for Italy!

You mentioned it won’t be your first time there—what have you already visited? Puglia isn’t the first region people think of, but after this trip, we loved it!

We don’t know Quebec at all, which is a shame. On the other hand, we usually go to the U.S. once a year (family reasons) and know some areas pretty well: the Southeast, the American West (5 times), and cities like New York and Washington...

When you come back to our continent, let me know—we can talk about so many countries!

Have a great day! !
Brigitte
FA Fabiepot Regular ·
Hi Brigitte, and thanks for these new photos! I’m reading the rest of your trip carefully. About Carlo Levi, I had looked into visiting the village where he was placed under house arrest and where I think he’s buried, but it was too far from where I was staying in Puglia at the time. That forced stay inspired him to write *Christ Stopped at Eboli*—a beautiful book I highly recommend if you haven’t read it. He describes the life of the people in this very poor region at the time and their pain at being forgotten by the Italian government. He also mentions Matera in the book.
fabienne
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi there!!! We crossed the road and headed toward the Museum... Early afternoon, we were strolling in the sun and admiring the temples from the outside: I really wanted to highlight the geographical aspect of Paestum. Now’s the perfect time to share a bit of its history: Paestum is a Greek colony, founded in the 7th century BCE. It was one of the most important centers of Magna Graecia—the regions under the economic and cultural influence of Ancient Greece! The city thrived until around 450 BCE before declining: the surrounding area became marshy, and the stagnant water led to malaria.

So, what’s so remarkable about this Museum that we had to come back? Well, it’s a fascinating place: it has rooms dedicated to prehistory, and on the first floor, you can see the famous metopes (decorative panels with sculpted reliefs) depicting mythological scenes from various sites in Magna Graecia. They date back to the mid-6th century BCE. You’ll also find some metopes from the temple known as 'the Basilica,' which are more recent than the previous ones. They once decorated its pediment. Here’s one:



Now, let’s talk about the Museum’s treasure: until 1968, painting was the only Greek art form we had no surviving examples of. That year, the Tomb of the Diver was discovered in Paestum, dating back to the 5th century BCE.... Its paintings, preserved from air and light, are nearly intact and are the only remaining examples of Ancient Greek pictorial art! The painted walls of the tomb are, without a doubt, the highlight of the Museum and are reason enough for our return! Instead of describing them, I’ll show you—the lid that gave the tomb its name:



And the walls: check out the banquet scenes!



Following further excavations, other tombs also revealed their paintings, dating from a century later.



Some of them seemed quite influenced by Egyptian art: chariot races, hunting scenes, battles, and more.





Six o’clock in the evening: time to head back to the parking lot, find our carriage... and try to locate our hotel amid the unbelievable—and inexplicable—chaos of cars!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Good morning, everyone! I left you yesterday at the start of the evening, hoping to reach our booked guesthouse as quickly as possible for our last two nights. Here we are, stuck in a traffic jam... incomprehensible: getting out of the parking lot already seems unreal; an argument between another driver and the owners, two cars at a standstill, nose to nose, and everyone refusing to move... Suddenly, the situation clears up, the exit barrier is lifted, and we pass through. We take the only possible road, to the right: almost no one, and we’re driving... In the opposite direction, we realize a crowd of visitors is trying to park in front of the site, which will close in a quarter of an hour!

Beforehand, we had entered our destination into the GPS—twice, in fact: GPS coordinates and a detailed address. Both predicted a half-hour drive and over 12 km, even though we had chosen a hotel in Paestum, supposedly 'close' to the site??? We understood once we arrived: two neighboring towns are merged under this name; Capaccio - Paestum, and of course, the hotel was in the first one! The winding road starts to climb when a sign appears: it’s the Borgo La Pietraia, which we’ll reach after a few more kilometers!

This Borgo is a little haven of tranquility in the middle of nature (cork oaks and ancient olive trees), completely isolated and built on the side of a steep cliff. The brand-new, very modern buildings are constructed from stone and concrete by an architect who loves the place; they blend perfectly into the landscape, and you can spot them thanks to a few bright splashes of color... We didn’t regret our choice: a beautiful, bright, and tastefully simple room with a furnished terrace opening onto the scenery.

Tonight, the setting sun illuminates it: in the distance, the plain and the sea! A little miracle that explains the unexpected crowd down below: this weekend, Paestum is hosting a hot-air balloon festival, and they’re rising one by one into the sky, much to our delight. Quick, a photo!!!



Given the time, it’s fortunately possible to have dinner on-site, and it’s lovely to settle in front of a beautiful fireplace (even without a fire!) while enjoying an aperitif...

I’d recommend this place without any hesitation if it weren’t so far... from everything. Of course, the ads suggest Naples and the Amalfi Coast are nearby, as well as Vesuvius and Pompeii... Sure, they’re in the area... but in the broadest sense! I’d suggest travelers spend a few days here by the magnificent pool after those discoveries...

Tomorrow morning, breakfast will be served on the terrace: a cool, dynamic young team, a varied buffet, and, on request, delicious buffalo yogurt to your preferred taste. Did I mention that down below, in the plain and fields, they raise many herds of these peaceful animals? Paestum and its region are a renowned center for mozzarella di Bufala, known even in Belgium.



After this rather busy day, we head back to the room to finalize tomorrow’s plans... Good night, see you soon!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Final day: Seeing the sea up close before heading home!

We set off quietly towards the south, heading for Castellabate: we’d spotted a little stretch of coastline that wasn’t too built-up just before the town—it’s Santa Maria di Castellabate.

Not too built-up... and not too lively either, let’s be honest, at the end of September! We nearly had to leave to find dinner! Santa Maria di Castellabate is right by the water (no surprise there!) and—yet again—you reach it after a very steep descent. It has just one main shopping street with a few small bars. It’s not exactly bustling: a handful of older men sipping espressos on the terrace. Below, a path runs along the beach, sand and rocks. We’re too lazy to change, so we walk the little road from one end to the other, soaking up the sun. We sneak a peek at the facades: it’s nearly noon, and nothing’s moving or opening... We stroll along the small harbor, where a colorful little boat is parked for the photo op!



There’s not a single waterfront restaurant open except for one in a closed hotel and another at a big Lido at the far end of the village, which doesn’t appeal to us. We head back to the main street: a terrace is open, hosting a group of seniors. The plates they’re served don’t exactly make our mouths water—huge portions of fries! Back at the parking lot on a small square, the menus at the restaurants look more local and tempting. But there’s not a soul inside—it’s 1:30 PM! We settle into the coziest-looking one, and within 10 minutes, 6 or 7 tables are occupied. Our decision seemed to be the trigger for the hungry folks who couldn’t make up their minds... It turned out to be an excellent choice!



Time to head back to the hotel and pack our bags: one last dip in the pool, one last meal, and one last yogurt. We’re off!

I’ve got a pretty unpleasant anecdote to share to wrap up the travel journal, but don’t worry—it all ends well! I mentioned when we left Naples that picking up the car was a long and complicated process. Despite the car’s rather unappealing appearance, it didn’t let us down during the trip and got us everywhere without a hitch. I’ll also give a little shout-out to my everyday driver for their ease at maneuvering (especially in reverse), navigating hairpin turns, and finding our way despite the often frustrating help from a GPS that kept acting up... So, we’re calm and carefree as we head to return our trusty Fiat to the Europcar agency at Naples Airport that morning. Our flight leaves in 3 hours... We park, take out the luggage, check that everything’s in order, and call over the inspector. Quickly, he walks around the car, doesn’t even glance at the sides or back, and rushes to the front. He bends down UNDER the bumper and triumphantly shouts: "You had an accident!!!" to the tune of ‘la la la, la la laire.’ Outraged, I say no. He sends us to the rental office. No matter what we say, no dialogue—we fill out a form with our version of events, i.e., nothing at all. That same evening, at Brussels Airport, I see an email notifying me of a debit from our bank account for the amount claimed for the alleged damage (385 €). Of course, we had full insurance with no excess, and of course, after sending a dozen scanned documents and three emails, we were fully reimbursed within a week. Still, (I don’t like using this word, as it’s often thrown around without reason) it was a MAJOR SCAM, and it took a lot of persistence on our part!

Despite a slightly bitter memory, all’s well that ends well!

In a day or two, after some reflection, I’ll post a little recap with the HIGHS (and the LOWS...) of the trip, along with some practical tips. See you soon?
Brigitte
MI Mick013 Veteran ·
hi there fun fact: the Italian version of Dany Boon’s film *Welcome to the Sticks* is set in Castellabate. In Italian, it’s the opposite: *Benvenuti al Sud*
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hello Michel, I had no idea there was an Italian version!!! Though my ‘patois’ is actually Ch’ti—from Picard Wallonia! I really enjoyed the film, and so did my family, after a few explanations...

The ‘authentic’ house you visited in Matera is the same one Sissi saw (we swapped photos by email!). She says it’s the one open to individual visitors... For once, we had a guide! That house is like a real ad: come live here, we’ve got a fully equipped kitchen!!!

Have a great evening!
Brigitte
PA PapJ59 Globetrotter ·
In a day or two, after some thought, I’ll post a little catalog with the HIGHLIGHTS (and the LOW POINTS...) of the trip, along with some practical info. See you soon?

Of course!!!

and for your info (and that of my other "travel buddies"), I got the green light from my government and the prime minister (wife and son...) to head to Puglia in spring 2021 (so I’m pushing Morocco back). For 2020, it’s Cap Corse and then Mont Ventoux (1+1 week).

Cheers from our place. Jean
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BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hello, If you're not the prime minister, what’s your role then? Or do you rule over an absolute monarchy—travel-related, of course? 😉 Cheers, see you soon!
Brigitte
PA PapJ59 Globetrotter ·
Well then... OH MY GOSH 😂😂😂
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BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Bravo!!!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hey everyone,

I found it magical to rediscover Paestum, in such great condition and thus accessible to all, with such well-preserved architectural and painting treasures... Unfortunately, I see with regret that I’m probably the only (and last!!!) person on the forum who studied Ancient Greek in high school (it’s not necessary!) and who, as a result, is captivated by the history and mythology of Ancient Greece...

I was hoping you’d be won over by these temples: under a sparkling sun and in this beautiful countryside dotted with pine trees, they’re not too... academic, are they?

Finally, the ONLY traces of pictorial art (i.e., paintings and drawings!!!) from Greek civilization, dating back to the 5th or 6th century BC—it’s impressive and magical. Remember that this entire civilization greatly influenced Roman culture (Rome: the Colosseum, the forums, etc.) and, from there, OUR civilization... See you soon for the full recap, which will be totally subjective!
Brigitte
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
Hi there, It might sound a bit odd, but not having studied ancient Greek is one of my regrets. At the school I went to, it was a rare option, and I realized it a year too late—they didn’t really promote it. I loved learning Latin for 7 years, but Greek would’ve been a great addition. I picked up a bit of modern Greek a few years later... but I didn’t get very far.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
JO Jourdes Regular ·
No, I stuck with Latin, but my "other half" studied Greek. That’s why they’re so into ancient Greek mythology and Egyptian history...

They’re totally hooked on recording any show about it.

As for me, looting the tombs of those famous figures and displaying them in museums? Not my thing...
Marie-Benoîte
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
Have you visited Etruria? We took a trip in October a few years ago to the Tarquinia area, and whether in the museums or the Etruscan tombs that you can visit, the emotion is just as strong. Plus, at that time of year, there was practically no one around.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
OUCH!!!: "looting the tombs of these illustrious figures to display them in museums"!!!

Don’t get it wrong—this isn’t about looting like in Egypt, where the British, Italians, and French under Napoleon opened tombs out of curiosity, found gold and jewelry, then removed the mummies without a second thought... and immediately thought about the interest it would spark, the money, and the fame they’d gain.

To keep it short, here it’s about the walls of tombs, displayed in a nearly confidential spot, and everything is showcased (walls and drawings) with great respect. Works of art are on display so as many people as possible can enjoy them—it’s not about selling mummies by the roadside like 120 years ago!!!

What you’re saying could be part of a larger debate: a friend and I didn’t see eye to eye about the Parthenon Marbles at the British Museum. Her take was that if Lord Elgin had left them in place, they’d be eaten away by corrosion, and we’d have no trace of them... I just got back from there two weeks ago—fair point! I’m still not convinced, though...

If your husband is interested in Egypt, I could share plenty of anecdotes I’ve learned or seen there—its history is fascinating...

No hard feelings? Have a great evening, best wishes.
Brigitte
JO Jourdes Regular ·
Of course, no hard feelings at all!!

But in Egypt, even today, there are still searches and excavations carried out using laser technology with just one goal: to excavate, catalog, and recover artifacts to offer to the highest-bidding museums...

All these testimonies have survived for hundreds of years, yet we’re the ones damaging them by putting them on display.

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April 18, 2019 – Discovery of a new tomb in Dra Abul-Naga On World Heritage Day, Dr. Khaled el-Anani, Minister of Antiquities, announced—in the presence of the Egyptian Prime Minister—the discovery of a new tomb in Dra Abul-Naga, on the west bank of Luxor. This tomb, dating back to the 18th dynasty [1549/1550 – 1292 BC], is considered one of the largest tombs discovered at the archaeological site. It contains a large number of ushabtis. Read more at http://www.louxoregypte.fr/pages/un-peu-d-histoire/les-dernieres-decouvertes/haute-egypte-2.html#hLmDfSJ5pvJBH7ht.99

“This is the largest tomb on the west bank—we’re talking about 55 meters in height and an inner courtyard of 550 square meters,” explains Mostafa Waziri, Secretary-General of Egypt’s Supreme Council of Antiquities. The burial site, in excellent condition, is believed to have belonged to a nobleman named Shedsu-Djehuty. According to archaeologists, the man was likely a prince or mayor, which is why he was granted such a tomb featuring 18 entrance doors. Egyptian workers began restoring the tomb upon its discovery in 2018, uncovering a vast courtyard, colorful floor tiles, and mural paintings documenting activities like shipbuilding and hunting. “The tomb is filled with collections of pottery, sarcophagi, and everything needed for daily life,” notes Ragab Marae, an antiquities restorer. The west bank of the Nile is home to the Valley of the Kings, where pharaohs were buried in rock-cut tombs. The 18th dynasty was the first of the New Kingdom dynasties. Read more at http://www.louxoregypte.fr/pages/un-peu-d-histoire/les-dernieres-decouvertes/haute-egypte-2.html#hLmDfSJ5pvJBH7ht.99

Discovery in the Dra Abu el-Naga necropolis – April 2017

Eight mummies, brightly colored wooden sarcophagi, and a thousand funerary figurines: archaeologists made fabulous discoveries in Upper Egypt in a nearly 3,500-year-old pharaonic tomb. Read more at http://www.louxoregypte.fr/pages/un-peu-d-histoire/les-dernieres-decouvertes/haute-egypte-2.html#hLmDfSJ5pvJBH7ht.99

March 2017 – Exceptional discovery of 66 statues dating back 3,300 years. Read more at http://www.louxoregypte.fr/pages/un-peu-d-histoire/les-dernieres-decouvertes/haute-egypte-2.html#hLmDfSJ5pvJBH7ht.99

We’ll go see these discoveries in museums… But that’s just my point of view...
Marie-Benoîte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Good evening, no, we hardly know Etruria and the tombs: just the Volterra Museum and the area around Baratti and Populonia, opposite Grosseto...

I’ll get back to you about learning Greek in a private message!

Have a good evening!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi there, I’ll reply to your PM tomorrow: I’ll tell you about that... and other things! Have a good evening.
Brigitte
MI Mick013 Veteran ·
hi there, I studied Latin from 6th grade to my final year of high school, and Ancient Greek from 8th grade to my final year (just in case Belgians and Swiss folks don’t get the French school levels—from the end of elementary school to the baccalaureate). Yet visiting ancient sites isn’t a priority for me, maybe because I’m jaded—school trips were always Vaison-la-Romaine, Arles, Nîmes, the Pont du Gard, Saint-Rémy, Orange, etc...
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
just in case Belgians and Swiss folks don't get it, from the end of elementary school to the baccalaureate)

We don’t live in the schoolyard because we’re not in glorious mainland France......
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
MI Mick013 Veteran ·
I don’t have any particular admiration for France, I just don’t know if the jargon used in its education system is understandable for Swiss and Belgian folks, which is why I explained it.
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
We totally get it. We know France way better than the French know our countries, since we watch French TV news and shows every day. I wonder if many French people tune into RTS and RTBF.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Michel, we actually followed the exact same route: I’ll translate it into "Belgian" from back then: from 6th grade Latin to senior year!!! (nowadays, we’ve reversed it; it’d be from 1st grade to senior year...). All the sites you mentioned, I’ve seen them too—on vacation and to show the kids—and revisited them... I totally get why you’d be jaded. What’s exceptional about these temples is how well-preserved they are. If you compare them to the current state of the Parthenon, same era, which has been looted, transformed, (poorly) restored, and redone, you really need a strong imagination to visit it and still be impressed!!! As for the painted tombs (especially the first one), there’s no trace of Greek paintings from that era, the Golden Age of Greece. Nothing. There are the frescoes from Santorini at the Athens Museum, but that’s the Minoan civilization...

Have a great day!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Antoinette, Just a quick note: yes, the French (we have lots of friends who are!) all told us, when we first met: '...but you speak French so well!!!' and were really surprised by my answer: 'it’s our mother tongue!!!'

I think they expected us to speak 'Belgian'??? or maybe have the accent of Mademoiselle Beulemans, or from *Bossemans and Coppenolle*, two hit comedies written in Brussels slang! It’s also true that we know France better than... some French people, and even better than Belgium: we’re kind of over it at this point.

Cheers.
Brigitte
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
Hello, Your comment makes me feel better—I was also told *"you speak French well"*... and that was in Lyon...... On the other hand, in Cuba, about fifteen years ago, while chatting with a young man who had never left his island, he knew we had 4 national languages....
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
HI Hiacinthe Globetrotter ·
Hi Brigitte,

Let’s get to the museum’s treasure: as recently as 1968, painting was the only Greek art of which no trace had been preserved. That year, the Tomb of the Diver, dating from the 5th century BC, was discovered in Paestum.... Its paintings, shielded from air and light, are almost intact and are the only surviving examples of Ancient Greek pictorial art! The painted walls of the tomb are, without a doubt, the highlight of the museum and alone justify our return here!

What a surprise! I really wasn’t expecting that. These paintings are stunning :D

Cheers, Christine
Hiacinthe
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi everyone!

Time to take stock and share the highlights and lowlights of the trip! Some days were a real success, sometimes unexpectedly, while others felt a bit ordinary or even superfluous—but they still helped us enjoy what came next, which kept us hooked until the very end! I’ve grouped all the practical info at the end...

Our top picks (the best!)

*** : The city of Matera. Whether it was for its site, its alleyways, the magical view of the illuminated Sassi, or its moving history, this was THE highlight of the trip. The city, whose inhabitants were once condemned to oblivion, was considered ‘a national disgrace’ 60 years ago. The story ends with well-deserved recognition: it was the World Capital of Culture in 2019!!! We learned a lot because our knowledge was purely book-based at first—there’s still so much to discover and lessons to take away!

*** : The Paestum site and Museum: I’ve already explained why in the post, and more than once! I realize it’s not everyone’s cup of tea, but I hope it might have sparked some curiosity in readers to judge for themselves—Paestum was well worth the detour...

I’m grouping the various Puglia sites under one heading, giving each a star rating:

*** : The city of Lecce: I’m giving it 3 stars partly on ‘faith’ because of what we missed: time. There are still so many neighborhoods to explore, and we’d love to spend a night or two there to enjoy the calm and the view of the illuminated monuments. 3 * also because of the basilica façade, which is a gem and worth visiting on its own. ** : The Trulli villages, which were nothing like we imagined! You have to look past the touristy veneer and wander into the neighborhoods where they seem like part of everyday life to be truly amazed and appreciate them! 2 * for each of the seaside villages in Puglia, where we strolled, visited caves by boat, and took improbable alleyways... to see an endlessly blue sea: magical! I’m thinking especially of Polignano, where we benefited from the great advice of our hotel staff, and Ostuni.

2 * finally for two spots barely known to travelers, found by chance at the end of a guidebook page or during an unplanned detour thanks to the GPS: -- Santa Maria de Castellabate Abbey -- The tiny village of Savelletri, the sea urchin capital, well-known among Italians who love seafood! -- And I won’t soon forget the exceptional meals we had: local dishes, delicious and affordable, with regional wine. Bravo!!!

Now for the less pleasant part: there weren’t any tourist flops, just a few disappointments—and I’ve already thought of ways to improve for next time or for others:

-- An objective flop: trying to visit Monopoli on a weekend. Simply impossible to park... so we didn’t see it! -- A tip: reading the forum, I see some people like and look for typical markets. Avoid the one in Ostuni—big, long... and ugly! -- The Coastal Dunes Park: maybe worth seeing if you’ve never seen dunes! I felt like spending two full days in Torre Canne, 40 km from our first hotel, was a waste of time... Yet the hotel was very nice, and the breakfasts were excellent... We spent a whole half-day in Ostuni, which we could have visited the day before. Exploring the village doesn’t take all day, and we could have gone further south toward Lecce to see Grottaglie (the ceramics) and Galatina without adding too much to the itinerary.

Now for the practical info: Recommended hotels and restaurants, guided tours (2!), and some prices!!!

Preliminary note: we’re at that age... you know the one. We’ve traveled a lot and in all sorts of ways—starting with the most budget-friendly... and those days are behind us! We still look for a good quality-price ratio but, I’ll admit, quality now takes priority over price. However, we prioritize the quality and location of our accommodation over the number of restaurant meals. We’ve kept some of our camping habits, like organizing picnics or quick meals (paninis, etc.), and rarely go to restaurants for lunch...

Hotels: In Polignano: Borgo Bianco, borgobianco@greenblue Contrada Casello Cavuzzi, 70044 Polignano a Mare BA, Italy This is an MGallery by Accor: rooms start at 160 €, breakfast included. A splurge but a favorite for EVERYTHING: the room, upgraded to a suite; the food, the view, the service, the incredible kindness, the tourist tips... and the free shuttle to/from the center (just arrange it!).

In Matera: Hotel in Pietra, Via San Giovanni Vecchio 22. 8 rooms (!!!) from 70 and 85 € for a single; 115, 160, 200 € and up per night with breakfast included for a double or more... All different—you can see and choose your room on the site! Breakfast is well thought out, like you’re hiking all day: ready-made paninis, savory quiches, etc.!!! Exceptional...

In Paestum: Borgo La Pietraia. Via Provinciale 13 Snc, Capaccio-Paestum, 84047, Italy - Booked via Booking; 98 € per night with breakfast: highly recommended! However, it’s far from everything...

Restaurants: Many restaurants, snack bars, and enotecas serve perfectly satisfying meals. Here are the ones that really wowed us: -- Polignano: Antiche Mura, Via Roma: in the evening (reserve!) -- Lecce: Something completely different, an enoteca behind the Duomo for a drink, gelato, or a charcuterie-cheese board at lunch: 00 Doppiozero, Via Guglielmo Paladini, 2 Lecce. -- Matera: For an elegant evening: La Gattabuia, Via delle Beccherie, 90-92, 75100 Matera MT, Italy. In the Sassi Barisano, at the back... Reserve!!! We never spent more than 60 to 70 € in the evening with wine, usually around 30 to 40 €... At lunch, no more than 40 €?

Happy reading! I’ll be back with tips on guided tours—a first for us—and the real practical flops!

See you soon!
Brigitte
JO Jourdes Regular ·
A huge thank you for this travel journal with such captivating stories and stunning photos!

So many details in your writing, including History with a capital "H."

It’s so rewarding to research the places you’re going to visit.

Anyway, I know who to ask when we finally decide to head to these beautifully described Puglia regions!!

Marie-Benoîte
Marie-Benoîte
DO Dominike Veteran ·
Loved reading your friendly exchanges 😉😉😉

At our place: I’m the one who plans all our routes, all our trips, figures out all the itineraries thanks to the great tips from kind and sharing travelers and after reading tons of travel journals... I’m also the one who finds and books all the accommodations along our routes, our flights, the rental car, etc. BUT my husband recently got a cute customized mug as a gift from a loved one with this written on it:

"Call me God" (that’ll do)

Dominike (prime minister in charge of our getaways?)
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Dominique, Glad about the photos—so the story continues! Here’s an anecdote that aligns with yours: at home, I handle pretty much everything you listed, and even more... but my husband drives, not me (and hasn’t for a long time!). He takes great photos with a big, beautiful Nikon, complete with interchangeable lenses, and I know how to use it too. I started with Canon Ixus cameras and now use a Fuji X1 (a compact) that’s really high quality. It doesn’t quite fit in my pocket, but almost, and it takes just as good photos as the Nikon—except in extreme conditions like near-darkness or macro shots (for flowers, insects, etc.). Two years ago, ALL my friends, who’d always believed (seriously?!) that women couldn’t take good photos, started praising my husband for the amazing shots... I protested a little (let’s say I was miffed): yes, he takes half of them, but I take the other half *and* crop, straighten, and adjust the colors... In short, we won’t be seeing equality anytime soon!

Hope I made you laugh... Have a great day!
Brigitte
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
I think we could start a club!!! I’m also planning everything, everything, everything. My husband drives the camper van or heads to the airport with only a rough idea of the destination! While I’m preparing, I sometimes ask him for his opinion on a choice, and usually, his answer is pretty vague. But I have to say, I never get any complaints about the choices I make. For photos, we both take them, and he’s the one who puts together the albums afterward, picking from both our photo libraries.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...

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