Autumn trip from Puglia to Naples via Basilicata...
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PA PapJ59 Globetrotter ·
Ah... those Belgians!

You’re not making this easy for me.

I’ve already copy-pasted nearly 34 pages lifted from "Voyage Tips" (great site), then added your first comments. A second Word file already has 8 pages with Dominike’s notes, and now I need to add some parts from Brigitte’s post!

And I just got my precious *Guide Vert* (Puglia) which adds even more to the pile.

Of course, Sissi and Mathilde are lying in wait.

Phew, my 2-week trip isn’t until May 2021... thank goodness.

Kisses to you all. Jean.
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MI Mick013 Veteran ·
hi there -for me, the biggest letdown of my trip was Ostuni, which disappointed me compared to the reviews I’d read up to that point. In the area, aside from Alberobello, I preferred Martina Franca and Locorotondo -other highlights for me (places you didn’t go—you can’t do it all!): Bari, the Castellana Caves, and the Gargano -one pleasant surprise compared to what people say: Taranto (at least when, like me, you’re not only interested in old stones but also in places where life happens)
DO Dominike Veteran ·
Hi Brigitte,

Lovely recap, and such beautiful photos too—I really enjoyed following along! 😉 So many great memories came flooding back, and I even discovered some new things for myself 😎.

You might want to think about extending the fun with a round-trip flight from your place to Bari or from Charleroi to Bari 😎 (sometimes there are pretty affordable flights from there on certain dates). There are still so many amazing spots left to explore in that area: Giovinazzo, Trani, Barletta, Bitonto—all worth visiting from Bari—then Monopoli (such a shame you couldn’t stop by in the end; the old town is gorgeous, with stunning buildings, lovely squares, and beautiful churches. We really regretted only having 3 hours there), the tiny village of Cisternino, the stunning seaside town of Otranto, Sant'Andrea, the Grotta della Poesia, the Grotta Zinzulusa, the little hilltop village of Castro right next door, Galatina, Nardò, the beautiful Gallipoli, and more :)....

And about the car: what a bummer you had that big issue on the way back!

I’ve been there before—had a similar problem with a middleman I used to book our rental cars through. So frustrating having to send countless emails, make tons of calls, and scan all our documents after the trip just to get back money that was wrongly taken!

Now we always book a full Sunny Cars package (zero excess for theft, zero CDW excess, and I pick an option that includes reimbursement from Sunny Cars for the small excess the rental company charges upfront in case of damage to tires, windows, undercarriage, roof, etc.). We book this package on Carigami (where you can cancel up to 36 hours before the trip with no fees) because the Sunny Cars deal with zero excess and full-to-full fuel is actually cheaper on Carigami than on Sunny Cars’ own site (weird, but true). All we have to leave is a 200 €–400 deposit via credit card at the rental office (for the small excess on windows, etc., which Sunny Cars refunds, and in case the car isn’t returned with a full tank).

Great customer service when needed—phone calls aren’t overpriced from Belgium, and emails work well too (even when we had a small issue on-site). Same with Sunny Cars.

Back in 2015, after a well-known rental company tried to scam us by charging over 80 € to our credit card for a full tank + fees *more than three weeks after* we got back from Spain (they just took the money without even telling us why), even though we’d filled up the tank right before returning the car at Madrid Airport—I now hold onto all our fuel receipts *and* take photos of the odometer at pickup and drop-off (with recognizable spots in the rental company’s parking lot in the pics). That time, the parent company told us via email that the return form—dated, signed by their employee, and clearly stating the car was returned with a full tank (8/8)—wasn’t proof at all!!!! Seriously, what’s the point of that form then?

They said the *only* way to get our money back was to prove with fuel station receipts that we’d filled up right before returning the car. Their signed return form didn’t count for anything ...

They asked us to send all our fuel receipts more than three weeks after our return, but luckily I still had them all :) ... Believe me, they were *very* surprised :)

I scanned all the receipts, sent them the photos of the odometer at pickup and drop-off, plus the scanned return form, and told them if that wasn’t enough proof, we weren’t letting it go. We had solid evidence and were ready to fight. Like magic, the 80 €+ was refunded to our Visa card right after! But still, what a hassle after we’d followed the contract to the letter.

Another time, in Italy (Bari, 2018), we were missing two hubcaps, and there were scratches here and there on the body and mirror when we picked up the car in the rental company’s parking lot—but they’d made us sign the form *inside the airport* (before even seeing the car) saying everything was perfect!!!

That time, after walking around the car and seeing the missing hubcaps and scratches, I flat-out refused to leave the parking lot (my husband was *not* happy ). I went to find the employee and made him note all the issues on the pickup form, forced him to countersign it with the time, and made sure he wrote down the missing hubcaps, etc. He complained a lot, saying we were fully insured and wouldn’t have to pay anything out of pocket, that the insurance would cover it, etc. But I didn’t budge until he did it. Then I took *tons* of photos of the car from every angle before leaving, right in front of him. He wasn’t happy, but tough—sometimes you’ve got to do that (sad, really) to avoid major paperwork hassles later.

I think because we’re so well insured, some rental companies give us cars with minor issues (scratches, missing parts) and just count on our insurance to cover it (like the two missing hubcaps). If they do that with enough unsuspecting travelers, they must have a nice stockpile of hubcaps to charge at a premium to less-insured customers who don’t take the time to note the issues on the pickup form 😕.

They probably figure we’ll get reimbursed anyway, and they even try to convince us of that on-site, saying it’s no big deal because we’re fully covered with zero excess, etc. But I don’t want to look like a bad renter to the company we booked with, and I *definitely* don’t want to fill out a bunch of forms when we get back. So it’s a no-go, and we take way more precautions now—even if it’s a huge time-suck at pickup .

Last time we traveled, we kept all our fuel receipts for *over three months* after the trip, plus all our photos of the car and odometer, the pickup form, and the return form (I double-check that everything’s filled out, dated, and signed by the employees before I sign—even if they hate it and are in a rush) 😉.

But accidents can still happen abroad, so I’ll always make sure we’re well insured, even if it’s way more expensive :)

Hope this long rant about some rental companies helps others—maybe they’ll think to ask for a fuel receipt every time and keep them for a while after getting home 😉.

Hope you’re already dreaming up and planning your next trips, Brigitte! Dominike
JO Jourdes Regular ·
Hi Dominike,

The same thing happened to us this summer in the USA! We rented from Alamo for the 5th time. We also take the maximum insurance. Until this year, no issues after any mishaps.

A flat tire in 2015 in the Keys—the taxi was paid directly by Alamo to our hotel, and the next day, a new car, same model, "by breakfast."

You shouldn’t have to change tires in this country!!

In 2017, a rock in the windshield! No identical car in Boise. I complained so much that we got the boss’s Grand Cherokee. We had rented a Renegade!!

Last August, we paid for the car before leaving.

Once at Alamo in Los Angeles, we wanted a car with a higher ride. The employee started haggling, asking for $50 daily. He then dropped to $30, then $25. It’s normal to pay more, but it felt weird!

After returning, since we’d already paid taxes (airport, etc.) for our first choice, it seemed unfair to pay additional taxes for this car!! But the worst part was having to pay for a full tank, even though the person who picked up the car confirmed everything was OK.

No proof, just endless discussions. They referred us to the branch, but no response. I threatened to share my experience on some forums. I think they couldn’t care less!!

We’ll go elsewhere from now on.
Marie-Benoîte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
... "I don’t have any regrets about the choices I made." Me neither, thank goodness!!! But on the other hand, my husband sorts ALL the photos by date, from every device (we also have some 'good' smartphones) using a software program that I find a bit tricky to use—then it’s my turn to play: keep or delete, crop, straighten, etc. I could go on. Designing the layout for an album: we do it together; if it gets too slow, I finish it alone... You know almost everything now! Readers’ great tips??? Your turn!

Have a good evening.
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Jean, First comment, without having read everything: plan for 3 weeks for the trip!!!

I’ll share the sites for my two guides, mention the two annoying practical problems... and I’m out. Cheers.
Brigitte
JO Jourdes Regular ·
The balance isn’t great at home either!!

I plan everything—I handle the stops, the sites to visit...

But I don’t mind, because when we arrive, I feel like I already know the place a little.

As for photos, I’m the only "photographer"!!

I write the travel journals and then put together the "paper/photo" albums.

One of our kids went to Florida last year and was thrilled to look through the album: hotels with addresses and prices, visitor centers with locations, cool spots, and neighborhoods to check out based on everyone’s tastes, of course—plus info on those buses you can hop on and off wherever you want around Miami and other cities.

Anyway, in the end, it’s just about giving back what others have shared with me...
Marie-Benoîte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Here I am again! I’ll start by sharing the references for the two guides we used! It’s not our usual habit, but we were really happy with them...

-- In Lecce, we booked a rickshaw tour (go ahead, laugh!!!) through bookinglecce@veloservice.org, found on the Routard or Lonely Planet...; 56 € for two, for 3 hours. Their specialty: bike rentals. My husband is allergic to biking, and on foot, we wouldn’t have seen even half of what we managed in just half a day! The young guide, charming, took us around based on her ideas and then ours! We had bought combo tickets for Lecce’s 5 main sites (purchased across from the Duomo) and were able to visit each one between spins of the wheels!

-- In Matera, we contacted an independent guide who was very responsive and easy to work with: Marjorie Hanna, a competent and perfectly francophone young woman,

45 € for two, for a 3-hour walking tour in a group of 6 French speakers. Not only does she know her stuff, but she LIVES her city and loves it... it was contagious!

Last point: 2 more or less total flops, but others here have run into the same issues!

The first and most serious was the unreliability of GPS on some of Puglia’s back roads: locals recommended Google Maps—really? The second, resolved afterward, was the SCAM with the car rental at Europcar: when we returned, the inspector seemed to know the car well and, without checking anything, "found" two scratches under the front bumper—each as long as my finger. The cost: 385 € charged that same evening! We had all the insurance we needed and were reimbursed within the week by Auto Europe, the agency we booked through. Still, the end of the trip left a bit of a sour taste...

As you can guess, the trip was a success and fully lived up to our expectations. We would’ve loved to do more, but first and foremost, I wanted to revisit Paestum on the other coast. We made do. Another trip is already in the works: yes, family overseas in March... After that, who knows, but I already have a follow-up in mind: heading south of Lecce, the peninsula, and a return... via Matera. As Sissi says, I’ve got plenty of plans, but "I won’t have the time..."

Good evening to all—maybe see you tomorrow for YOUR ideas and any questions! Thanks for following along and encouraging me...
Brigitte
VA Valmichel86 Regular ·
Hi Brigitte,

Wow, great travel journal! I read it a bit too quickly because I’m busy writing my own, but I’ll go back and read it properly soon—I’ll definitely refer to it later. I’ll be heading a bit further south in Italy and I’ll keep Puglia in mind for my next trip. I’m blown away by Paestum; until now, I’d only seen photos of the temples taken outside on the site. Now I just need to figure out which year and what time of year—obviously, it won’t be in July or August.
Valmichel86
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Michel,

I'm thrilled—my story convinced someone to visit Paestum and see it for themselves! You’ll have to share your thoughts with us! We saw the site back in... 2006, during a city trip to Naples, followed by a long and varied journey: from Pompeii and Herculaneum to Capri, Sorrento, and the entire Amalfi Coast. Someone had told us about Paestum, likely for its temples, and we didn’t even know there was a museum—no mention in the guidebooks... It was tiny at the time and had only recently opened: the tomb was discovered in 1968, and it took years for studies and dating...! The famous tomb was the centerpiece back then, but now it’s become the hub for exhibitions of all the region’s excavations!

I’ll start reading your travel journal—it’s been catching my eye since I started mine, but you know how absorbing this hobby can be!

Have a great day.
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Christine, Yesterday I didn’t reply to your post about Paestum—sorry about that! I was eager to finish the travel journal... and I was gathering my thoughts to wrap it up properly!

For most travelers, Paestum = temples: the Museum must be just a few documents, a few objects found on the site—you can skip it!!! We were the first to be surprised to find something else there (!!!) back in 2006: it wasn’t listed in the guidebooks, and we only went out of sheer curiosity—since we were there, we checked everything out... What a great surprise, indeed! Cheers, Brigitte.
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hey Antoinette, we’ve decided—we’re starting a club… and it’s even going to be INTERNATIONAL! Jean is the exception… that proves the rule; as for the other guys who ‘follow,’ we’ll have to ask them…

Should we open a post? “Who’s planning a trip? Who’s taking photos?”—I already have the title…

Have a great day!
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Michel, You who visited everything in one go, how long did it take you? If we ever decide to complete this trip, I was thinking of the south: so, Gargano...? We also stopped in Martina Franca and spent too much time there: we rushed through Locorotondo. Martina Franca looks more like small towns we’ve already explored in other Italian regions... Ostuni, thinking back, wasn’t a flop but wasn’t a favorite either: I’d heard so much about it that we thought we’d spend the day there...

That’s all! Best from Belgium.
Brigitte
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
Hello

Shall we start a post?

"Who’s planning a trip? Who’s taking photos?" – I already have the title...

Yes, it’d be a great discussion idea! Have a nice day, and thanks again for this little sunny escape to Italy under November’s gray skies
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
DO Dominike Veteran ·
Trulli—those little houses with whitewashed conical roofs—aren’t straight out of a fairy tale: they’re a traditional form of housing found throughout the region. You’ll see them scattered along the roads connecting villages, often grouped with one or more buildings of a more conventional shape. What made Alberobello famous is its exceptional concentration of trulli, which earned it a spot on the UNESCO World Heritage list in 1996.

They’re so charming, these little houses.

You should go back to the belvedere above the parking lot and stroll through a trulli neighborhood without shops, where they’ve remained basic housing.

Thanks for the info.

Some are still lived in, but many have been converted into guesthouses or B&Bs.

It might be interesting to stay in one of these houses. But I think you should avoid peak tourist season.

See you, Christine

For those interested in staying in a trullo: here’s the name of a beautiful one in Locorotondo—a fully equipped rental with a kitchen and everything, and Francesca, the owner, just added a pool. Check out "Trulli Francesca Ciclovia" on F***.ok, Airbnb, etc....

Have a great day! Dominike
MI Mick013 Veteran ·
hi there, here’s my itinerary—I should mention that we stopped at every place rated 3, 2, or 1 stars in the Michelin guide, and did the same in every town we visited. That said, we didn’t go to any museums or pay for entry except for the Castellana Caves and a troglodyte dwelling in Matera.

- Day 1: drive to Grosseto (southern Tuscany) - Day 2: drive to Matera, check into the B&B, 2 nights - Day 3: Matera - Day 4: drive to Gallipoli, check into the hotel (3 nights), visit Gallipoli - Day 5: visit Lecce; on the way back to Gallipoli, stop at the basilica in Galatina - Day 6: tour of the Salento coast with stops at Cape Santa Maria di Leuca, then the namesake village, Otranto, and on the way back to Gallipoli, two villages in Grecìa Salentina - Day 7: drive to Castellana Grotte with a stop to visit and have lunch in Locorotondo; check into the B&B 300 m from the caves (3 nights); visit the caves (tour in French at 4 PM) - Day 8: visit and lunch in Alberobello; visit Ostuni, Cisternino, and Putignano - Day 9: visit Taranto—shopping district first, then the historic center (lunch), followed by a visit to Martina Franca - Day 10: drive to Bisceglie (north of Bari) with a stop to visit Polignano a Mare; visit Trani (home to what’s probably the most beautiful cathedral in Puglia) - Day 11: visit Bari—shopping district first, then the historic center; on the way back to Bisceglie, detour to Ruvo di Puglia and the Chianca dolmen - Day 12: drive to Monte Sant’Angelo with a detour to Castel del Monte; check into the hotel (2 nights), then visit the religious complex in San Giovanni Rotondo - Day 13: Foresta Umbra, the Gargano coast with a quick visit to Peschici and Vieste, then return and visit Monte Sant’Angelo - Day 14: drive to Colle Val d’Elsa (between Siena and Florence), following the Adriatic coast and then crossing Umbria - Day 15: back home
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Thanks Michel—I’ll print this out!

Your travel pace isn’t ours: I’ve already mentioned we’re SLOW travelers. That doesn’t mean we collapse at the first terrace we see every three steps (!!!), but I need time to absorb what I’m seeing. Otherwise, I just don’t enjoy the cities we visit and/or I remember nothing. So, I could easily turn your itinerary into a second trip!!!

Have a great day and happy planning! !
Brigitte
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
Hi there, I also feel, having some knowledge of the region, that you should halve your daily plans to truly enjoy it and not be rushing all the time. And don’t miss the Taranto Museum—it’s a major museum for anyone interested in Roman antiquity—and the Barletta Fine Arts Museum, which is fascinating for De Nittis’ Impressionist paintings, something we discovered there. The Otranto Cathedral and the Galatina Church are absolute must-sees!
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi there, Apart from the Barletta Fine Arts Museum, we’d planned to see the rest this year but then we cut it short (brutally!). It’s better for us to take our time... That said, I still don’t know where to find that time!!! Cheers! !
Brigitte
RU Runner5758 ·
... But on the other hand, my husband sorts ALL my photos by date, from all devices (we also have 'good' smartphones) using a software program that I find a bit tricky to use, and then it's my turn to play: keep or delete, crop, straighten, etc. I could go on...

Good evening Brigitte, and thank you for this excellent travel journal—it reminds me of my own trip to Puglia and Basilicata at the end of October. A region that’s not well-known but so charming. Two things to add: - Late October is really off-season, and many places—restaurants, bars, and hotels—are closed; - Your photos are gorgeous, but watch out for those three spots that keep showing up in many of them. A quick sensor cleaning is in order before your next trip ;-)
Christian
TR Trinquet Regular ·
Hi Brigitte, I read your report from start to finish with great interest. Thanks for all the details and photos. It’s really confirmed my desire to go there for my 70th birthday. The only downside is that you mentioned mid-September as the end of the season, and I was thinking of going in October to enjoy good temperatures. What do you think? Thanks! Yolande
yoyette74
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Yolande, It all depends on the places you plan to visit. For example, I think the most famous Trulli villages, as well as some seaside spots like Polignano and Ostuni, still attract tourists until mid-October. However, by the end of October, all beachfront hotels will likely be closed—most were already shut by the end of September—and the beaches will be deserted (and closed if we're talking about the 'developed' ones). Cities like Lecce (and Matera, nearby but in Basilicata) will still be lively, though... Read the message before yours: Runner warns about this. There’s nothing sadder than a vacation spot with nothing open and NO activity... Also, I’m not sure the temperature and weather will still be as pleasant. We were already breaking records in September!

It might be wise to move your trip up by a month! I got feedback from a friend who traveled to Sicily during the first week of October, and he felt the same way as I do.

Have a great day! !
Brigitte
BR Brigitte42 Globetrotter ·
Hi Chris, Let’s start with the least annoying part: yes, I already mentioned it at the end of September—we were reaching the end of the season! Same in Spain, Portugal, etc. Was the weather still nice and pleasant throughout October?

About the photos: as I said, there are two kinds: - Mine, which also show barely visible spots, like thin, light gray streaks—one on the left and another toward the middle of the sky. Those were just smudges on the lens, and it’s fixed! - However, for the Nikon, I noticed those spots (on photos with a clear sky) and thought they were water marks... I’m afraid the sensor will need cleaning, though. Ugh!

Thanks for pointing it out—I had to sort through 1,800 photos, and after a while, you stop noticing anything!

Why not share your highlights (or lowlights) too? We’re wondering if there’s still enough left for a second trip, farther south...

Have a great day!
Brigitte
TR Trinquet Regular ·
Thanks Brigitte, but September won’t work—maybe May instead. Mainly Lecce and Matera for a week. Best,
yoyette74
MI Mick013 Veteran ·
good evening I stayed in April 2018 (outside the Easter period) at two seaside hotels, both open, in Gallipoli and Bisceglie. While the beaches were deserted, the hotels weren’t—the one in Gallipoli was even packed with a high school trip. Generally speaking, aside from Alberobello, the Sassi of Matera, and to a lesser extent Lecce’s historic center, Puglia didn’t strike me as a tourist factory. The towns are usually large enough to stay lively year-round thanks to their residents.
TR Trinquet Regular ·
Thanks for your reply.
yoyette74
SI Sissi57 Globetrotter ·
Puglia didn’t give me a tourist-factory vibe; the towns are generally big enough to stay lively year-round thanks to locals

Absolutely, we went in July and the tourist pressure was really moderate—almost nonexistent in the smaller towns.
Je n'aurai pas le temps...
DO Dominike Veteran ·
Hi Yolande,

We visited Puglia, Salento, and made a little detour to Basilicata (Matera) in 2018. It was a trip from 25/08/2018 to 14/09/2018. After that, we "flew" from Bari to Malta, spent a few nights there before returning to Belgium, because a flight from Bari to Valletta plus a return flight from Valletta to Belgium was much cheaper for us at our return dates than a single return flight from Bari to Belgium .

It was really hot in Puglia, Salento, and Matera at the end of August and in September 2018. We were so glad we listened to Mathilde and only booked accommodations with air conditioning along our route. It allowed us to have good nights' sleep (just a quick cool-down in the room before going to bed, then the AC on low or off, and everything was fine for a restful night) 😊.

There were still plenty of tourists in the more well-known cities and villages like Bari, Barletta, Matera, Alberobello, Martina Franca, Ostuni, Monopoli, Polignano a Mare, Locorotondo, Lecce, Otranto, and Gallipoli when we were there 😊.

But in the smaller villages, it was often absolute quiet, with churches and many shops closed from around 1:00 PM to around 5:00 PM 😊. For example, in Bitonto: during the day, it was dead quiet in late August, no one in the alleys or squares. But on the evening of 14/09, it was packed with tourists and locals (we went back there on our last day for one night after returning the car at the airport in the late afternoon, since it’s really easy, cheap, and quick to get to Bari airport by train from Bitonto). Another example in Ruvo di Puglia in late August: during the day, there wasn’t a soul in the old center, and everything was closed 😞. Even sadder than in August but in the afternoon ... The same was true in Specchia, Galatina, Tricase, etc., during the first half of September.

I think this is mainly due to the lifestyle. Small shopkeepers and medium-sized stores, etc., close in the afternoon (because of the intense heat), but they open their shops again in the late afternoon and stay open quite late in the evening. Many small villages are lively in the morning and only start to wake up again around 5:00 PM...

In the more touristy villages and cities (like Ostuni and Alberobello), shopkeepers usually stay open in the afternoon, at least in the historic center 😊. As soon as you move away from the hyper-touristy center of these towns and villages, the shops are also closed in the afternoon.

But if you have to choose between October and May to visit this region, I’d say May for the magnificent light and also for the many flowers in the villages, etc. In my opinion, the temperature should still be very pleasant in Puglia and Salento in October... maybe even more bearable than at the beginning of September, but there might be more rainy days, probably a bit less light, and the days will be a little shorter.

In a week, you can easily visit Matera, Lecce, and several other beautiful villages and towns!

PS: We’ve already visited several other regions of Italy well outside the peak season.

For example: - The east coast of Sicily in February, - Some towns and villages in Umbria (Perugia, Assisi, Spello, Spoleto, etc.) in April, - Naples, Capri, Pompeii, Vesuvius, and the islands of Ischia and Procida in November, - Bologna, Ferrara, Modena, Parma, Ravenna, etc., in October.

And every time, we had beautiful weather from around 7:30 AM to about 5:00 PM.

Around Naples and in Sicily: sunshine and very warm temperatures, often feeling well over 25°C in the sun most of the day, but there were also very strong thunderstorms and heavy downpours after 5:00 PM. These were trips in February and November. We had to quickly head back to our accommodation as soon as the sky suddenly darkened in the late afternoon.

In Umbria in April: we were still lounging on the balcony and terrace of our accommodations in Perugia and Spoleto at 10:00–11:00 PM because it was still really warm in the evenings. Sometimes it was still 26°C on the terrace thermometer at 11:00 PM!!! The two owners said it was an exceptional year, weather they usually only see in June. Not a drop of rain during our week in April 2017! It was amazing for us—summer before summer! We came back enchanted from this trip with beautiful visits, sunshine, and warmth every day in April, while back home in Belgium, it was still quite chilly! .

The same thing happened when we stayed 10 days near the center of Bologna one year in October... Beautiful, sunny days, very pleasant temperatures, and only one day of overcast skies and rain out of 10... The owner said it was an exceptional October for us because there weren’t many rainy days like usual, according to him... Even relaxed there once with a good book, in full sun on the terrace of the accommodation!

We really enjoyed all our off-season trips in Italy, but it’s true that the cities and villages are much quieter then. Not a problem for us, but it’s something to consider if that would suit you .

Happy trip planning! Dominike
TR Trinquet Regular ·
Thanks so much, Dominik, for all this valuable information. I’ve already done quite a few trips in Italy—Sardinia, Sicily—always off-season. I’ll think about all this for 2021, since I already have a lot of plans for 2020 with the grandkids and the hiking club. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Best regards, Yolande
yoyette74
MG Mguibentif Globetrotter ·
If anyone wants to return from Puglia in an "indirect" way, we’ve heard that a Danish airline called "DAT" will operate flights on Saturdays from June 27 to September 5, from Brindisi to Palermo and from Brindisi to Catania. Worth checking if it’s better than going via Malta...
Mathilde
DO Dominike Veteran ·
Hi Mathilde,

Flight from Brindisi to Palermo: I would’ve loved to take it too on our way back from our place in Scorrano in Salento—great prices and good flight times 😉...

But in the end, we weren’t disappointed at all with our flight from Bari to Malta and finishing our trip in Malta. The Three Cities, Mdina, and Rabat—all the spots you recommended—were amazing, even though we only had three days there 😏... Such great memories too 😏

Your tip is going to give xx travelers so many ideas 😎😉😎.

Airline "Dat": never heard of them before, but that’s super useful info 😄! Thanks 😎

See you soon, Dominike
MI Mick013 Veteran ·
hi there just so you know, Bitonto isn't a village—it's a town of 55,000 people in the Bari suburbs
PL Ploeven Regular ·
Thanks for the travel journal... (Breizh da Viken on another forum)
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