Bolivia: Exploring the South Lipez by Self-Drive
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HO Holigirl Veteran ·
Hi Carmen,

What a beautiful travel journal that makes me want to head straight to Bolivia! Your photos are just stunning.

I’ve been following your trip updates for several years (discovered on another forum), and it’s always such a pleasure.

Thanks, and happy Easter to everyone!
XE Xeta Veteran ·
Why is there a ban on vehicle and airplane circulation in Bolivia on election day? Weird, right?

I don’t know. All Peruvians have to go vote—is that one of the reasons? You can ask them on your next trip.

Don’t Bolivians have to as well?😛

Anyway, your travel journal is amazing—such beautiful photos that bring back great memories of the start of my trip!
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
I don’t know. All Peruvians have to go vote—is that one of the reasons? You can ask them on your next trip.

Don’t Bolivians?😛

I think Carmen already left for Peru
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen

I remember your travel journal. You weren’t lucky with your recurring stomach issues.

Having recurring diarrhea is called having stomach problems. And that’s exactly what happened in Ladakh. I’ve never experienced that in South America, even after eating salads.

In Bolivia, what we had was food poisoning from highly alcoholic drinks at high altitude!! In that case, it’s not diarrhea you get—you’re vomiting your guts out, over and over, until the poison is expelled, with chills and everything!! It’s way more painful and debilitating!

The dog that bit Benoît seemed to belong to a family, so you’d think it would be vaccinated against rabies. But you can never be sure—rabies is still quite common in Bolivia. When Benoît started screaming, the family didn’t come closer to get the dog. They just called it and left.

So it wasn’t a stray dog. That’s a relief. The family that owned the dog was really awful—they didn’t even come to apologize. What jerks!

I don’t know. All Peruvians have to vote—is that one of the reasons? You can ask them on your next trip.

Seriously, Carmen, Peru is *obsessing* you!!! When we can travel again one day, I’ll think about planning another trip to Bolivia, not Peru. But for now, I can’t even imagine the future—the situation is just too uncertain.

See you soon
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
XE Xeta Veteran ·
I don’t know. All Peruvians have to go vote—is that one of the reasons? You can ask them on your next trip.

Don’t Bolivians?😛

I think Carmen already left for Peru

Looks like it
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
The Bolivians, no?😛

Oops, of course, I’ll correct that.

Anyway, your travel journal is gorgeous; such beautiful photos that remind me of a great start to a trip!

Thanks! Since I can’t travel right now, the journal lets me relive that last trip.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
😄 😄 😄 I think Carmen already left for Peru 😮

Unfortunately, not yet... but I’m in the process of canceling some things.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
So it wasn’t a stray dog after all. That makes me feel better. The family that owned this dog was really out of line: they didn’t even come to apologize. What losers!

True, the family could’ve come to get their dog and said sorry.

Carmen, you’re really obsessed with Peru!!! 😏

Yep... 😄

When you’ve been planning a trip for months, it’s disappointing when you can’t go. But we’re definitely not the only ones in this situation, and things could be worse.

When we can travel again one day, I’ll think about planning another trip to Bolivia, not Peru. But for now, I can’t even imagine the future—the situation is just too uncertain.

I’m struggling to picture the future too, and I don’t like planning trips years in advance. For 2021, I’m hoping to go to Peru. Next autumn, we were supposed to go to Croatia and Montenegro, but we haven’t made any bookings. In May, instead of Peru, we’re hoping to take a trip to Switzerland. Anyway, for now, we’re just walking our dog. Luckily, we don’t have a total lockdown like in some countries.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I don’t know. All the Peruvians have to go vote—is that one of the reasons? You can ask them on your next trip.

Bolivians too, no?😛

😄 😄 😄 I think Carmen already left for Peru 😮

Looks like it 😄

Unfortunately not, but it’s only postponed.😛
NI Nimou74 Veteran ·
Hi Carmen! 🙂

This region around Tupiza is absolutely stunning. I really regret not having seen it! 😕 Bolivia is definitely a beautiful country with such varied landscapes.
« Voyager rend modeste. Vous voyez quelle petite place vous occupez dans le monde. » - Gustave Flaubert https://www.myatlas.com/anneclaire95
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Anne-Claire, 🙂

This region around Tupiza is really stunning. I really regret not having seen it! 😕 Bolivia is definitely a beautiful country and offers such varied landscapes.

Yes, the Tupiza region is gorgeous, especially the stretch from Guadalupe through Rio Seco.

Gotta go back sometime...😉

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
21.10. Tupiza – Sucre, Selenita

After an early breakfast, we load up the car and fill up on gas. When I ask, the attendant says there’s no blockade in Potosí today, so we won’t need to take the alternative routes to reach Sucre. That’s a relief, because it would’ve added quite a bit of time to the drive.

At the toll booth, the woman confirms we can go through Potosí, but that won’t be the case tomorrow. We reach Potosí without any issues and drive a few more kilometers before stopping to eat.

Cerro Rico and its mine



After two weeks in the South Lipez, we overlook the city of Potosí. It’s in these streets that we got blocked several times.

Just before entering Sucre, we fill up on gas one last time. Maps.me guides us straight to Biz’s place. Alejandra is chatting with a French couple. We quickly realize it’s Jean-Louis, a forum member, and his wife. We arrange to meet up tonight for dinner together.

The car is inspected down to the smallest detail. No issues—everything seems in order. But it’s so dirty they’re going to wash it and do a second check afterward. Alejandra will send us a message to let us know if everything’s okay. It was. We’ve driven 2,243 kilometers with an average consumption of 12 liters/100 km. You could say the Hilux’s fuel efficiency is pretty good on this kind of terrain.

When we arrive in Sucre, we see smoke in the city. Alejandra explains that the electoral tribunal was set on fire and many streets are blocked. She talks about fraud and thinks Morales will do anything to win the elections. We chat a bit more with Alejandra and the agency owner. They don’t know the Rio Seco–Guadalupe area at all and are happy to see the photos. We ask Alejandra to call the Sun Hotel in Santa Cruz for us to book a room. Before our international flight, we’d rather spend a night near Santa Cruz’s airport to avoid the risk of missing it.

We take a taxi back to Selenita. As when we arrived, Emilie’s welcome is warm, and Tina, the Labrador, is overjoyed to see us again. We settle in and go meet Jean-Louis and Domi. We eat together at La Taverne restaurant. The meal is delicious, and we have a great evening with them. It’s almost 11 p.m. when we walk back up to Selenita.

The rest is here: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10121598;a=10121598
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Pascale, 🙂

I missed your message, sorry.

What a beautiful travel journal that makes me want to head straight to Bolivia! Your photos are just stunning.

Thanks! The landscapes are exceptional, so it’s easy to take great photos.

I’ve been following your travel updates for several years (discovered on another forum) and it’s always with the same pleasure.

It’s been a while since I’ve been on the other forum—we haven’t had the US on the itinerary since 2014. Thanks for stopping by this travel journal. 🙂

See you soon, Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
22.10. Sucre, Selenita

We wake up at seven o’clock—last night was restless in Sucre and in many other cities across the country. We heard firecrackers all night, and this morning, smoke is still rising from the electoral tribunal.

We head downtown, but the roads are blocked, and no cars are moving in the city center. Protesters are in the streets, waving small Bolivian flags. Schools and the university are closed, and everything seems to be moving in slow motion. For us, though, it’s actually quite nice—we can get around without worrying about traffic. Several times, we have to pass through barricades, but the protesters let us through without any issues.

The Casa de la Libertad is closed due to the protest. We visit the cathedral and its museum. Today, the tour is self-guided, which doesn’t bother us at all—we prefer exploring at our own pace. A police officer unlocks the different rooms for us and locks them again once we’ve passed through.





At the Charcas Museum, we check out the anthropological section. You can see pottery, weapons, and everyday objects from all the major pre-Columbian cultures. In the back room, a few mummies and skulls are on display.





Next, we head to the Museum of Ethnography and Folklore, MUSEF. We wanted to see the collection of ritual masks, but they’re no longer in Sucre—you have to go to La Paz to see them. Too bad, but the section on women from the pre-Hispanic era is interesting. Like in the other museums, the guard seems happy to welcome tourists. He gives us explanations in English and asks if we’d like to watch a film about Bolivia. The film isn’t great quality, but the guard is thrilled when we thank him for the "beautiful" film. As in the other museums, MUSEF has lovely inner courtyards with fountains and columns.







We eat at La Taverne again. After two weeks in the South Lipez, it’s really nice to eat at a good restaurant with well-prepared dishes. The daily menu is 58 bolivianos. We can choose from different starters, two main courses, and three desserts. As usual, the food is delicious and the plates are beautifully presented.

We stroll through the streets and head to the Mercado Central. Wandering around this market is so much fun—we never get tired of it. The spice section is wonderfully fragrant and tickles your nose. A little further on, huge, colorful cakes are on display. Bolivians seem to love sweets. Many are sitting on the ground, eating their lunch. We settle in to have a glass of fruit juice—orange-mango for Benoît and pineapple-mango for me. The juices are amazing! The lady seems happy to see we like her juices and refills half a glass for each of us. Bolivians are really lovely.

A beautiful courtyard we visit along the way The Mercado Central



The Museo del Tesoro opens at 3 PM, so we leave the market. This small museum, with guided tours in English, Spanish, or French, is really beautiful and interesting. It was funded by a family of jewelers. You learn a lot about mining, gemstones, silver, and gold. The display cases are stunning, and our young guide’s explanations are fascinating. A model of a mine is on display, and the guide turns on little lights as she explains things to show us what she’s talking about. Unfortunately, photography isn’t allowed.

There are a lot more people in the streets now than before. Protesters are everywhere, and tires are burning in the middle of intersections. To avoid the protesters, we go around the Plaza de Mayo from the back and buy some chocolate made with Bolivian cocoa beans at a chocolatier. Then, we decide to head up to Selenita.

Amazonas Airlines tried to reach us and eventually sent an email. Our flight tomorrow afternoon is canceled, and they’ve rebooked us on the evening flight. Emilie tries to contact Amazonas for us, but they end up calling Benoît’s phone. I answer, and the lady transfers me to someone who speaks English. I explain that we have an international flight to catch and don’t want to take any risks. She offers us a flight tomorrow morning—perfect. With the general strike announced for tomorrow, it’s safer to leave the city as early as possible. We chat with Emilie a bit more before heading back downtown to have dinner at La Taverne. My Roquefort steak is delicious, and Benoît’s steak with caramel-whisky sauce is just as good.

The rest is here: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=10124136;a=10124136
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
Looks like you made it back just in time.... Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Looks like you made it back just in time.... Muriel

Yeah, definitely, but the trip isn’t quite over yet.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
23.10. Sucre – Santa Cruz, Sun Hotel

The alarm goes off at six, we finish loading our bags and head for breakfast. Felix, our driver, is early, and Emilie comes to get us, saying it’d be best to leave right away. Felix drives fast—he wants to get back to the city as quickly as possible. A few kilometers from the airport, the road is blocked. Felix launches into a long explanation, telling them we’re only going to the airport, and luckily, we’re allowed through.

In the airport hall, on the departures board, our flight is listed as “delayed.” That’s a great start. Finally, at check-in, we’re told the flight will leave on time. The announcement on the board was wrong. When we see our plane arriving from Santa Cruz, we’re relieved. The plane is half-empty, so we can spread out.



In Santa Cruz, we pick up our luggage quickly and take a taxi to the Sun Hotel. The road to the hotel is blocked, the driver talks to the protesters, and they finally let us through. A little further on, he cuts across a grassy strip and takes the highway the wrong way.

Once at the hotel, we check in and settle into our room. It’s on the ground floor with direct access to the pool. The room is huge, the bed is enormous, there’s also a sitting area and a lovely bathroom. We’re not used to such comfort anymore. The pool is massive, with plenty of sun loungers around it, and the park is beautifully landscaped with flowers.



We spend a quiet day between the pool and our room. In the evening, we dine at the hotel restaurant. The food is delicious—we really enjoy it.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
24.10. Santa Cruz – São Paulo - Zurich

Breakfast is served in a windowless room, so we ask if we can sit on the terrace by the pool. No problem—they even bring us a tray so we don’t have to make too many trips back and forth. 🙂 The buffet is huge, with lots of options.

The hotel shuttle is supposed to take us to the airport, but the road is still blocked. We have to walk a short distance, cross the highway, and catch the shuttle on the other side. Since yesterday afternoon, no cars have been able to reach the hotel.

Our flight with GOL leaves on time, and just like on the way there, we get a sandwich and something to drink. Our layover is really short—only an hour. The flight attendant moves us to the front so we can exit the plane quickly.

There are a lot of people at São Paulo airport, but we make it to our gate without any issues. The flight to Zurich with Swiss is pleasant. However, the flight time is longer than expected because Spanish air traffic controllers are on strike, so the plane has to take a more northerly route. For the night, the cabin crew sets up a small buffet with drinks, apples, savory biscuits, Linz tarts, and Appenzell Biberlis. For those who don’t know, the Appenzell Biberli is a kind of honey biscuit filled with marzipan.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
25.10. Zurich - home

We arrive in Zurich at 10:40. We have to go through customs before changing terminals to catch our final flight to Geneva. After collecting our luggage, we hurry to take the train.

We go to pick up our dog, and Benoît has to go to the emergency room in Lausanne to get vaccinated against rabies. They give him six injections around the bite and one in his shoulder. 😮 He’ll have to go back for booster shots. Luckily, he wasn’t bitten at the start of the trip, because it’s hard to find this vaccine in Bolivia. Fortunately, he could wait and get it done in Switzerland.

That’s it—the travel journal is finished! I hope I’ve inspired you to discover the beautiful South Lipez region.
GI Girardinpho Veteran ·
Hi Carmen,

Thanks for this lovely travel journal and congratulations again on the stunning photos.
Nathalie

Photos et carnets de voyage : http://www.girardinphoto.net
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
There you go, the travel journal is finished—I hope I’ve inspired you to discover the beautiful South Lipez region.

Thanks, Carmen, for this amazing journal 🙂 Oh, absolutely! It’s made me want to see those stunning landscapes, but when? This year will probably be a write-off—after canceling Kenya, where we should be right now, our flight to Peru this summer was also canceled. I hope we can postpone it until next year . In the meantime, we’re escaping through travel journals, and it feels good 😉.
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
Thanks Carmen for introducing me to this country and its beautiful lagoons!
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Isabelle, 🙂

Oh yes, absolutely! It made me want to see those stunning landscapes, but when? This year will probably be a blank year for us. After canceling Kenya, where we should be right now, our flight to Peru this summer was also canceled. I hope we can postpone it until next year.

Oh, I didn’t know you were supposed to be in Kenya. What a fantastic itinerary you had planned for this year—Oman, Kenya, Peru...

It’s unbelievable that your flight to Peru was already canceled. You were flying with Air Canada, right? For us, four weeks before departure, Iberia only canceled one out of six flights. Canceled for Geneva-Madrid, but Madrid-Lima, the domestic flights, and the return flights are still confirmed.🤪

Were you able to cancel your on-site services without any loss?

Is the airline going to refund you or are you getting a credit?

In the meantime, we’re escaping through travel journals, and it’s doing us good 😉.

Yeah, we don’t really have a choice anyway. But I’m really surprised about your August cancellation. I thought you’d definitely have better luck than us.

What’s your destination for next Christmas?

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Thanks Carmen for introducing me to this country and its beautiful lagoons!

Thanks to you—I know you’re not a big fan of desert landscapes. You really went out of your way there...[;]
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Nathalie,

Thanks for this lovely travel journal and congratulations again on the stunning photos.

Thanks for your message. 🙂

When’s the next part of Japan coming? I know I was lucky to see some of the photos in advance, but I’d love to see the whole thing.

Carmen
RJ Rjulie95 Globetrotter ·
Thanks to you—I know you’re not a big fan of desert landscapes. You really went out of your way there...😉

In photos it’s fine, and since I didn’t know the area at all, it’s a great way to discover places I’d probably never set foot in
"Je suis africain, non pas parce que je suis né en Afrique, mais parce que l'Afrique est née en moi." Kwame Nkrumah.

"J'ai appris que le courage n'est pas l'absence de peur, mais la capacité de la vaincre." Nelson Mandela

https://www.en-voyages.fr
RO Rouquine38 Globetrotter ·
It's unbelievable that your flight to Peru was already canceled. You were flying with Air Canada, right? For us, four weeks before departure, Iberia only canceled one out of six flights. Canceled for Geneva - Madrid, but the Madrid - Lima flight, domestic flights, and return flights are still confirmed.

Were you able to cancel your on-site services without any loss?

Is the airline going to refund you or are you getting a credit?

Yes, we had booked with Air Canada. They don’t refund but give a credit valid for two years, so we’ll reschedule Peru for next summer. As for the services, we went through a local agency and already paid a deposit. We can postpone it to next year, but we’ll lose some fees, like exchange fees for the domestic flight. But it won’t be huge.

I checked flights for our dates, and only Iberia is offering flights to Peru at prices that defy all competition: 680 € instead of 1500 € when I booked the flights last September. Since I think we won’t be able to leave the Schengen area this summer, it’s risky to buy other tickets. So, it doesn’t surprise me that Iberia hasn’t canceled your flights yet. I get the impression they’re trying to maximize cash flow by making it seem like the flights might still happen.

What’s your destination for next Christmas?

I had several options, but I’ll admit I’ve let everything go for now. We’ve postponed our Kenya trip to late November. If we can go, that’ll already be great!
"Voyager est un triple plaisir : l'attente, l'éblouissement et le souvenir." Ilka Chase
KM Kmiyetdm ·
What an amazing travel journal and gorgeous photos—they’ve just made me want to go back to this region on a self-drive trip. The tour operator version already blew me away five years ago, but self-driving clearly takes it to another level.

Anyway, thanks for this little escape during lockdown! Can’t wait for the next adventure.
GI Girardinpho Veteran ·
Hi Carmen,

When’s the rest of Japan coming? I know I was lucky to see some of the photos early, but I’d love to see the whole thing. It’s in the starting blocks. I’ll let you know when it’s online!
Nathalie

Photos et carnets de voyage : http://www.girardinphoto.net
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
I’m not gonna be original: thanks Carmen for all these beautiful photos 🙂. I’ve been dreaming a lot... even if, honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever take such a trip . This whole region of the world (southern Bolivia, northern Chile, and the Argentine Northwest) really looks amazing. Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen,

I’d gotten used to the Bolivian series—sniff, already over.

A huge thanks for this beautiful travel journal and those amazing photos 😎

I almost feel like going back 😉

Otherwise, since you mentioned canceled or not canceled flights, there’s also the issue of airlines that might go bankrupt, like South African Airways. We had several flights booked with them (a credit for the canceled April flights and the August flights not yet canceled), and now it’s a total loss 🏴‍☠️.
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
TI Titoualsace Veteran ·
Hi Carmen. I also want to thank you for this story and all these beautiful photos. Thanks as well for all the valuable information that helped me prepare for my trip. I’ll most likely have to postpone until 2021 given the current international situation. The silver lining is having more time to fine-tune everything. Best regards, Bernard.
Titoualsace
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I won’t be original: thanks Carmen for all these beautiful photos 🙂.

Thanks for your message 🙂.

I’ve dreamed a lot about it... even if, honestly, I don’t think I’ll ever take such a trip . This whole region (southern Bolivia, northern Chile, and NOA) really looks amazing. Muriel

If you’re nervous about driving on the South Lipez tracks, maybe an organized trip with a private driver would work for you. If it’s the cold you’re worried about, I can reassure you—with the right gear, there’s no problem.
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen,

I totally agree with you, but we can’t ignore the fact that it can get cold, that it’s a rustic trip... and that the food aspect takes a back seat 😉
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
MU Muriel18 Globetrotter ·
If you're scared of driving on the South Lipez tracks, maybe an organized trip with a private driver would suit you. If it's the fear of the cold, I can reassure you—with the right gear, there’s no problem.

It’s a bit of both... I hate the cold 🏴‍☠️! So I’m leaning more toward a short first experience in the Argentine puna (with a driver) + exploring the Salta region on my own + Iguazu Falls, which have been a dream for a long time... and maybe that’ll give me the urge to return to the Andean highlands 😇. Muriel
Si tu diffères de moi, mon frère, loin de me léser, tu m'enrichis (Saint Exupéry)
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Bernard,

I also want to thank you for this story and all these beautiful photos. Thanks as well for all the valuable information that helped me prepare for my trip. I’ll most likely have to postpone until 2021 given the current international situation.

Thanks for following along. You never know—maybe it’ll be possible for you to go in November. Though I have my doubts too.

The upside is having more time to polish everything.

Definitely.😎

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
and that the gastronomic aspect is relegated to the back burner 😉

I didn’t know Muriel was such a foodie.
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
I’m leaning more toward a first short experience in the Argentine puna (with a driver) + exploring the Salta region on my own + Iguazu Falls, which have been a dream for a long time... and maybe that’ll make me want to go back to the high Andean plateaus 😇.

Iguazu Falls have been calling my name for ages. After Niagara and Victoria Falls, it’d be the logical next step.😉
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Jean-François,

I’d gotten used to the Bolivian series, sniff—already over.

Yep, everything comes to an end...😉 I wasn’t even that quick with my posts.

Since you’re talking about canceled flights or not, there’s also the issue of airlines that might go bankrupt, like South African Airways for example. We had several flights booked with them (a credit for the canceled April flights and the August flights not yet canceled), and now it’s a total loss 🏴‍☠️.

True, in case of bankruptcy, it’s a total loss.🏴‍☠️ South African Airways has been in bad shape for years, and the government doesn’t seem willing to help this time. With the current situation, many airlines will struggle to survive. Lufthansa, Swiss, Iberia, etc., are in the same boat. But I guess some countries will do everything to keep their airline from going under. We’ll see...

Here’s an interesting link about South African Airways, if you’re curious: https://www.fin24.com/Companies/Industrial/liquidating-saa-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds-20200416

Have you already gotten a cancellation for Madagascar?

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Amazing travel journal and gorgeous photos that just make me want to go back to this region on a self-drive trip. The tour operator version already enchanted me 5 years ago, but self-driving clearly takes it to another level. Anyway, thanks for these little moments of escape during this lockdown! Can’t wait for the next adventure.

Thanks for your message. I can only encourage you to travel to South Lipez by self-drive. But you should still have some experience with rough roads if you want to go off the tour operator circuit.
MA Max68 Globetrotter ·
No, for now Madagascar isn’t canceled—no news from the agency.

The snag is that we were going with South African Airways
https://apprentisvoyageurs.com
KM Kmiyetdm ·
Amazing travel journal and stunning photos that just make me want to go back to this region in a self-drive. The tour operator version already enchanted me 5 years ago, but self-driving clearly takes it to another level. Anyway, thanks for these little moments of escape during this lockdown! Can’t wait for the next adventure.

Thanks for your message. I can only encourage you to travel to the South Lipez in a self-drive. But you should still have some experience with dirt roads if you want to go off the tour operator circuit.

Yeah, I can imagine! Since our South Lipez trip in 2015, we’ve added a tour of the Carretera Austral (the long bimodal dirt road in southern Chile) and especially 3 weeks of self-driving in Botswana and Namibia to our list. It doesn’t make us experts by any means, but we’re leveling up as best we can ;-)! I’m still impressed by all your nights in the car. Comfort isn’t a big issue for me, but never sleeping flat sounds tough!! Well done!
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Camille,

I’m still impressed by all your nights in the car. Comfort isn’t a big issue for me, but never sleeping flat sounds tough!! Well done !

We spent 4 out of 18 nights in the car. That’s not much.😉

Plus, we could recline the seat back all the way to the rear bench. By putting a bag or something under our feet, we slept almost flat.

Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

Here’s the link to our travel journal from our last trip. https://voyageforum.com/discussion/suisse-pays-lacs-montagnes-16-28-mai-2020-d10301489/

For once, you won’t find desert landscapes—just lots of greenery. 😛

Carmen
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hey Guillaume,

Just one day I don’t check my "travel journals" notifications to look for your journal, and boom—I miss it. I haven’t read anything yet, but I can already see I’m the last one to hop on 😕 or almost... Now I’m kicking myself... 😏

No, but... 😏 I can’t believe I missed this!
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
DI Diamina Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen

The road between Potosi and Uyuni is very mountainous but really beautiful. We climb a pass and arrive on a vast plateau where many llamas are quietly grazing. The landscapes are stunning—we’re loving it.

I’ll definitely note that the road between Potosi and Uyuni is worth the trip.

Day 2 Sucre (La Selenita)

Day 3 Sucre (La Selenita)

Day 4 Colchani (Hotel de Sal Luna Salada)

Day 5 Jirira (Auberge Doña Lupe)

Day 6 On the Salar (in the car)

Day 7 A few kilometers from Estancia Catal (in the car)

Day 8 Laguna Hedionda (Hôtel Los Flamencos)

Day 9 Laguna Colorada (Hostel by the Lagoon)

Day 10 In the middle of nowhere, on the route between Laguna Verde – Mina Horsu – Quetena Chico (in the car)

Day 11 Quetena Chico (Lamphaya Lodge Andino)

Day 12 Quetena Chico (Lamphaya Lodge Andino)

Day 13 Guadalupe (Guest room at Celia’s)

Day 14 Along the Rio Grande (in the car)

Day 15 Tupiza (Hôtel Mitru)

Day 16 Tupiza (Hôtel Mitru)

Day 17 Sucre (La Selenita)

Day 18 Sucre (La Selenita)

Day 19 Santa Cruz (Hôtel Sun)

You still did 17 days on the road, with 4 days in Sucre, and I also note that La Selenita is a great hotel.

On maps.me, the site is called « Rocks ». We arrive just before nightfall—it’s perfect.

I love this oasis in the middle of the desert too. And the rocks are impressively massive.
Nord Chili, NOA, Sud Lipez, La Paz août 2012 https://voyageforum.com/forum/mois_dans_andes_peripeties_en_altitude_D5526293/ Apologie du southwest en hiver https://voyageforum.com/forum/apologie_sud-ouest_etats-unis_en_hiver_D5851267/ Impressions d'Afrique et de Namibie
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Hi Marie-Do, 🙂

Hope you and your husband are doing well.

I completely forgot to reply to you.

I’ll keep in mind that the road between Potosi and Uyuni is really worth it.

We actually drove it before the South Lipez, so before seeing those amazing landscapes. But you’re right, the scenery between Potosi and Uyuni is pretty—definitely much nicer than between Tupiza and Potosi. Plus, we were there at sunset, and the rocks were beautifully colored.

You still spent 17 days on the road, with 4 days in Sucre, and I also noted that the Hotel La Selenita is great.

When you love it, you don’t count the days.😛 No regrets about the 13 days in the South Lipez—we could’ve easily stayed two or three more. For example, to climb a third volcano or on the route between Guadalupe and Rio Seco. That area is absolutely worth it!

La Selenita is up on a hill, so it’s quiet. Just keep in mind you’ll have to walk a bit to get to the center. It’s not far, but good to know. What we loved most was staying in a little cottage, so no neighbors "walking over your head" or making noise next door.😉 The welcome was super friendly—we couldn’t have asked for better. The room is simple but clean, and there’s hot water. Though, I think there’s no heating.

I also really love that oasis in the middle of the desert. And the rocks are impressively huge.

There are two spots marked with "rocks"—hope we’re talking about the same one.😉

Hugs, Carmen
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
If you're interested in Peru, check it out here: https://voyageforum.com/v.f?post=11461000;live=1;#11461000
MO Montagnard74 Globetrotter ·
Hi Carmen,

Before heading off to share your Peruvian adventures, I took the chance to dive back into this travel journal as it resurfaced from the depths of VF... Yes, yes, those 397 posts from the forum's golden age when you could display 500 photos!

And I realized that back then, I left like a thief without thanking you for this amazing travel journal (though we did have a good laugh about it, by the way). So, because I’m an old biker at heart, thank you for your feedback on this magical country that I still haven’t returned to 😠.

Now I can go enjoy your Peruvian update.
"Le véritable voyage de découverte ne consiste pas à chercher de nouveaux paysages, mais à avoir de nouveaux yeux." Marcel Proust
TI Ticapi Globetrotter ·
Thanks Bruno for your message. 🙂

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