Do travel encounters matter to you?
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EM
Hi there,

My name’s Emilie, and my view of travel has changed. I used to travel just to tick off the "places and things to do/see" boxes. But lately, I’ve realized that encounters have become really important to me while traveling. In fact, the people I’ve met and what they’ve brought to my life are now my best travel memories. What do you think? Have you had a similar shift in perspective? Are you more interested in meeting people while traveling now?

To be totally honest, I’m training to become a travel planner (a trip organizer), and I was thinking of focusing on organizing trips that are more centered around encounters. So I’d love to know if this makes sense—if travelers are interested in this kind of experience. Just to be clear, I’m not selling anything; I just want to chat and hear your thoughts.

Have a lovely evening, everyone! :)
SO Songsam Veteran ·
Good evening,

becoming a travel planner (travel organizer) and I was thinking of focusing on organizing trips more centered around encounters.

Unscrupulous "agencies" that charge naive tourists exorbitant sums with 300 or 400% margins to help them make connections (often labeled as "authentic") have existed for over twenty years. For the same target audience, there are also specialized agencies for people craving recognition who want to spend 2 or 3 weeks in a supposed "NGO" or similar on the other side of the world to do "volunteering"... that you pay for.

Are you (...) interested in encounters while traveling?

Yes, but for me, they’ve always happened naturally and spontaneously from the start. Until I came across you here, I foolishly thought the same was true for every normal person... Really? Some people need a "travel planner" for that?
EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
Hi Emilie,

I completely agree with Songsam. The real magic of interesting encounters while traveling is spontaneity and that gut feeling—things that just can’t be planned.

Murielle
EM EmilieTimmy ·
I completely agree with what you’re saying about encounters being spontaneous and unplanned for me too—I don’t claim to want to organize them for travelers. I’d just like to highlight guesthouses over big hotels, activities with a local rather than renting a boat alone, for example. Simply to emphasize human connections over booking everything through platforms, etc. That’s what I mean by “encouraging encounters.” Shining a light on human-scale institutions.

And believe it or not, there are plenty of travelers who aren’t interested in meeting people but just want to relax, discover new landscapes, etc... Or at least, it’s not their priority!

And a travel planner isn’t an agency—just travel advice for people who don’t have the time or who don’t like planning their trips (and that exists too!)

Have a great day! ☀️✨
EM EmilieTimmy ·
I completely agree with you (see my reply in the next post).

But I also know there are people who are afraid of this—of running into the wrong people, getting scammed, etc. So by promoting small establishments (hotels, activities...) instead, I thought it might reassure people to connect with others.
EL Elhine Globetrotter ·
Rather than encounters, it seems to me that what you're actually aiming for is building trust-based relationships with service providers (hotel owners, agencies, various businesses). That’s not the same thing. It’s not about reaching out to others, but about approaching a business with confidence.

This also appeals to people who aren’t looking for "meaningful encounters" but simply want a trustworthy environment wherever they set down their suitcase.

How do you plan to sell advice?

a travel planner isn’t an agency, just travel tips for people who don’t have the time or who don’t like organizing their trips

I think people who don’t have time to search for good tips here and there are the same ones who don’t have time to organize their stay. They’re looking for ready-made solutions (all-inclusive, as they say when they’re trendy). As for those who *do* have the time to organize their trip themselves, they look for info online first (on this forum, for example).

That’s why I want to "facilitate encounters." Highlight human-scale institutions.

That means being extremely responsive and connected to the ground, all over the world, to stay on top of the reality of small businesses—which change fast: they open, close, decline, grow, and their managers, owners, and staff change (so trust levels do too...). I’m having a bit of trouble understanding the service you’re proposing and how you plan to implement it.
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
Hey, partly it depends on where you're going. If you're heading to Northern Europe or Canada, the welcome can be a bit cold and distant. But that doesn’t mean people have bad intentions. On the other hand, if you go to more southern countries, people are a bit more welcoming—though often expecting a tip, obviously 😉. I remember meeting an Italian during my first trip to Morocco in Agdz; he was in a group and told me that in Europe, people are cold and he had to deal with moments of loneliness—who knows, maybe he was right. Me, on the other hand, I was traveling solo. As for hotel hospitality, the worst I’ve experienced was in Singapore.

If you want to meet people, it’s obvious that if you stay in five-star hotels where the vibe is formal, you’ll end up feeling pretty lonely. But in a youth hostel or a small hotel, you’ll meet other travelers.
SO Songsam Veteran ·
And a travel planner isn’t a travel agency

Yet every tour operator or big agency has always had a role called "forfaitiste"* whose job is to offer tailor-made services to clients who demand them. It’s a profession that requires such extensive knowledge of destinations and professional contacts that it’s one of the best-paid jobs in tourism. In fact, if forfaitistes are often among the most anticipated (and best-received) guests when a fam trip is organized by a local provider, a region, or a country, it’s no coincidence.

These days, tourism schools may have anglicized the name to make it trendy and more marketable with a lot of hype aimed at students willing to pay a lot to hopefully land a "cool" job later**, but I still can’t shake the feeling that a travel planner is really nothing more than an agency forfaitiste—I see no difference. I get that for a slightly hipster or pretentious client, it might be more acceptable—or even essential—to contact a "travel planner" (wow!...) rather than an "agency," a word that grates on many people’s ears.

Just to clarify: I don’t work for an agency at all and never travel with their help.

* or "senior forfaitiste," depending on the person’s experience level. ** though I doubt it’s actually that cool when you’re trying to make a decent living from it...
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
If you go to Northern Europe or Canada, the welcome is a bit cold and distant.

That’s surprising what you wrote, Mathews—I’ve heard (but I’ve never been there) that Canadians are really welcoming. Especially Quebecers.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Canadians were really welcoming. At least the Québécois.

They take the same amount of time to become friends as they do to forget you—about three minutes.

Michel
LU Lucbertrand Globetrotter ·
Hi Emilie, travel encounters are a huge topic. Taking the initiative individually is essential—like learning Albanian and engaging with local communities—you’re guaranteed results. A real encounter booster is bike travel, which I’ve seen on your site. Traveling by bike with kids is a surefire way to be welcomed everywhere, and people will even refuse payment. Several books explore this theme. Here’s an example:

TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Hi Luc,

Solo exploration is essential—like learning Albanian and engaging with locals; you’re guaranteed results.

To me, that’s a bias, a preconceived idea. For example, Hungarians don’t really appreciate it when you try to speak their language; they find it ridiculous, and anyway, the attempt rarely succeeds. As for Albanian, honestly, I was in Kosovo the other day, and I think if I’d tried speaking Albanian, it would’ve just made people laugh and led to a response in German or English. I don’t think anyone would’ve been impressed. The French attitude toward language tends to skew their judgment.

Michel
LU Lucbertrand Globetrotter ·
We clearly don’t have the same travel experiences. Since I speak Albanian and have lived in the country, I always receive an incredible welcome there. Back when the entry fee was 15 € by road, the fact that I answered the border guard in Albanian surprised him, and he replied, "It’s free for you." Speaking Spanish well in South America also leads to beautiful exchanges. I also remember conversations in German that left me with unforgettable memories. I specified *speaking*—meaning a strong command—and that takes hundreds of hours of learning over the years. I consider myself fluent in a language when I can read a book, even if a few words escape me. For example, reading books about the Falklands War—untranslated into French—by Argentine authors in Spanish and by British authors in English gives you a sense of how each of these peoples experienced the war. In my opinion, without preparing to engage with another culture, it’s even harder to connect with it.

This is just my way of doing and seeing things. I’ve always built everything around learning languages. Unfortunately, non-European languages have remained out of reach for me. I regret that my father, who spoke fluent literary Arabic, didn’t teach it to me.
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
Oh, I totally get why you see it that way—it’s actually really admirable and respectable. I respect that. But if here on VF you have to explain to a French traveler who just booked a Nantes-Tirana flight for late October that they’ll need to start by tackling an agglutinative language, with no time to learn it and no prior linguistics knowledge, I think it’s gonna be a bit tough. How old are you? It’s also kinda a retiree thing, let’s be honest. If you’ve got a job and kids, you’re not learning Albanian for All Saints’ break.

Michel
MA Mathews Globetrotter ·
It’s surprising what you wrote, Mathews—I’ve heard (but never been there myself) that Canadians are really welcoming. Especially Quebecers.

yeah, that’s true—Quebecers are welcoming. Anglo-Canadians might be more reluctant to welcome French speakers.

Otherwise, be careful about the people you meet—you might very well run into a Jedi while traveling, and Mr. Jojoone won’t be the one to tell me otherwise ;)
AT Attila Globetrotter ·
Hi there,

I’m not particularly drawn to meeting people while traveling—I much prefer the most remote places possible.

Plus, I find a lot of organized meet-ups pretty sketchy. Pay-to-play interactions have a name, and they’ve got nothing to do with real travel. Others have this human-zoo vibe that’s just plain uncomfortable.

Encounters should be spontaneous, unexpected. I get a flat tire, someone helps me out. I’m lost, someone points me in the right direction. I share a table, I chat with my neighbors. And so on. Something free!

Definitely not the "visit a 'traditional' family" or "authentic village" tours.
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Especially not the visit to a "traditional" family or a supposedly "authentic" village, etc.

And collecting yak dung to heat yourself or eating raw goat liver—would you like that?

The show *Rendez-vous en terre inconnue* sparked some callings. As soon as it aired, agencies jumped on the concept and offered new thrills to their clients. Nothing new, then. https://www.radiofrance.fr/franceinter/podcasts/la-chronique-tourisme/s-offrir-son-voyage-en-terre-inconnue-sans-les-cameras-9613348
KA Kate Globetrotter ·
Canadians were really welcoming. Especially the Québécois.

They take the same amount of time to become friends as they do to forget you—three minutes.

Michel

But who cares! I already have friends in real life. Travel encounters can be fleeting but just as intense. That’s what matters, right?
TA Tatra Globetrotter ·
But we don’t care! I already have friends in real life. Travel encounters can be fleeting but no less intense. That’s what matters, right?

Oh, I’m not into fleeting or superficial relationships—one-night friends don’t interest me. I don’t care, just like you said.

Michel
LU Lucbertrand Globetrotter ·
Thanks, thanks!

Yes, unfortunately, I’m not exactly in the prime of my youth anymore, but that doesn’t stop me from still practicing certain sports at pretty high levels.

But that’s not the point. I learned English, German, and Albanian for professional reasons—English and German, like for many, go back to high school, even though I wasn’t the most diligent student. I had to pick them back up later. For a lot of us, we don’t see English as a language but as a work tool, one you can’t get hired without.

I started learning other languages before retirement, especially Spanish. You can always find 20 minutes a day with all the tools available—often very practical and enjoyable. The current Assimil methods, first level and advanced, are a real invitation to learn and give you a solid foundation in the country’s culture. There’s German, English, and Spanish Vocable, articles on just about everything, bilingual books, radio stations. And then you discover you’re able to read books in the language.

A 30-year-old who spends half an hour a day on it—and you *can* always find that time—will speak several languages very well by 40. I’ve always used public transport to learn. Once you pass a certain threshold—you probably know this from your own strong English skills—you read fluently and don’t even realize you’re still learning.

And in cities, there are always foreigners who are crazy about language exchanges. I’ve had a blast playing a fun game: talking with foreigners where they spoke French and I spoke their language. It’s harder than if we’d both stuck to their language, but there are tons of situations that help you improve constantly.

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