"Le désespoir est une forme supérieure de la critique." Léo Ferré
Sentier en VTT de la "Stevensson" en autonomie totale et bivouac ultra léger (France)
by Jraf
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
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Bonjour,
J' envisage de faire la "Stevensson" en autonomie totale sur une semaine .
Le trajet se fera sur VTT semi rigide . Je compte bivouaquer en hamac .
Au niveau matos j' envisage d' emmener outre le hamac, une faîtière de 3m sur 4, un duvet léger, popote-réchaud nourriture, outillage basique pour le vélo, vêtements et rechange minimaliste, le tout dans un sac-boudin de canyoning de 20 l fixé sur un porte bagage Topeak mtx pour un poids de 5 à 8 Kg maximum .
Je recherche tout retours d' expérience sur ce genre de raid, sa faisabilité et le type de matos utilisés .
Merci .
Jan
Le vélo comme alternative à la bagnole .
"Le désespoir est une forme supérieure de la critique." Léo Ferré
"Le désespoir est une forme supérieure de la critique." Léo Ferré
Perso, je trouve qu'un bon sac à dos serait plus opportun surtout pour une durée/distance si courte.
Moi, ça m'embêterait vraiment d'avoir un poids mort de 8kg attaché à l'arrière du vélo. Après ça dépend de la conception que tu as du VTT, si tu fais des passages d'obstacles, etc. Avec un sac à dos, tu as plus de contrôle sur l'équilibre. Aussi, c'est plus simple quand tu dois porter le vélo à l'épaule.
De plus, il y a forcément moyen de s'alléger. Tu ne peux pas manger/boire froid pendant une semaine? Ça t'éviterait le réchaud déjà.
Je connais pas la nature du terrain mais, si il est vrai que le parcours fait 200km (lu sur un site), alors il doit être sacrément encaissé pour que ça prenne une semaine entière. Cela ne fait que renforcer l'usage du sac à dos.
Moi, ça m'embêterait vraiment d'avoir un poids mort de 8kg attaché à l'arrière du vélo. Après ça dépend de la conception que tu as du VTT, si tu fais des passages d'obstacles, etc. Avec un sac à dos, tu as plus de contrôle sur l'équilibre. Aussi, c'est plus simple quand tu dois porter le vélo à l'épaule.
De plus, il y a forcément moyen de s'alléger. Tu ne peux pas manger/boire froid pendant une semaine? Ça t'éviterait le réchaud déjà.
Je connais pas la nature du terrain mais, si il est vrai que le parcours fait 200km (lu sur un site), alors il doit être sacrément encaissé pour que ça prenne une semaine entière. Cela ne fait que renforcer l'usage du sac à dos.
Rech. filles pour randos VTT/VTC! :)
salut jraf,
je ne connais pas le tracé de la stevensson, mais il est tout a fait possible de faire du vrai vtt avec un vélo moderement chargé.
je viens juste de faire, la semaine dernière, le valence/gap par les chemins du soleil avec ma femme. nous n'étions pas en autonomie puisqu'on a dormi en gite, mais j'étais bien chargé quand même (pour deux!) pour ce type de terrain, et ça passe quand même trés bien.
moi j'avais un semi-rigide avec deux sacoches arrières, ma femme un tout suspendu avec un petit porte bagages de tige de selle type topeak. et nous avions chacun un petit sac a dos avec juste le necessaire pour la journée plus le casse croute du jour.

sur le val/gap, le parcours est globalement roulant mais parfois technique et toujours physique. il n'y a que 250km mais plus de 6000m de dénivelé. de bonnes grimpettes en perspective:
si tu n'est pas encore équipé, tu trouves maintenant du materiel de raid pas trop cher, ultra leger, bien adapté a ce type de trip de 1 semaine. des tentes à 1kg, des duvets à 600gr, des autogonflants à 400gr, des mini réchauds suffisants pour faire chauffer de l'eau, quelques lyophylisés au fond du sac pour les coins paumés sans épiceries..etc... maintenant, si le long de la stevenson il existe des gites utilisables en gestion libre, c'est sympa aussi, ça permet de faire des rencontres le soir, de dormir sur un bon matelas, et pour une dizaine d'euros par soirée c'est pas la mort sur 1 semaine. mais le bivouac a son charme aussi.
ensuite, une petite pharmacie, une polaire et une bonne veste de pluie pour les coups de froid, un change pour pédaler sec, une paire de tongues en mousse pour reposer les orteils le soir, un trousse a outil compactée mais complete... et on a quasi fait le tour.
si tu met les objets lourds de bivouac sur le porte bagages, et le leger du jour dans le sac a dos, c'est tout a fait jouable. laisse de la place dans le sac a dos pour les courses du jour, et ne l'alourdi pas trop sinon ce sont tes épaules qui vont crier!
bon trip, et raconte nous! 😉
je ne connais pas le tracé de la stevensson, mais il est tout a fait possible de faire du vrai vtt avec un vélo moderement chargé.
je viens juste de faire, la semaine dernière, le valence/gap par les chemins du soleil avec ma femme. nous n'étions pas en autonomie puisqu'on a dormi en gite, mais j'étais bien chargé quand même (pour deux!) pour ce type de terrain, et ça passe quand même trés bien.
moi j'avais un semi-rigide avec deux sacoches arrières, ma femme un tout suspendu avec un petit porte bagages de tige de selle type topeak. et nous avions chacun un petit sac a dos avec juste le necessaire pour la journée plus le casse croute du jour.

sur le val/gap, le parcours est globalement roulant mais parfois technique et toujours physique. il n'y a que 250km mais plus de 6000m de dénivelé. de bonnes grimpettes en perspective:

si tu n'est pas encore équipé, tu trouves maintenant du materiel de raid pas trop cher, ultra leger, bien adapté a ce type de trip de 1 semaine. des tentes à 1kg, des duvets à 600gr, des autogonflants à 400gr, des mini réchauds suffisants pour faire chauffer de l'eau, quelques lyophylisés au fond du sac pour les coins paumés sans épiceries..etc... maintenant, si le long de la stevenson il existe des gites utilisables en gestion libre, c'est sympa aussi, ça permet de faire des rencontres le soir, de dormir sur un bon matelas, et pour une dizaine d'euros par soirée c'est pas la mort sur 1 semaine. mais le bivouac a son charme aussi.
ensuite, une petite pharmacie, une polaire et une bonne veste de pluie pour les coups de froid, un change pour pédaler sec, une paire de tongues en mousse pour reposer les orteils le soir, un trousse a outil compactée mais complete... et on a quasi fait le tour.
si tu met les objets lourds de bivouac sur le porte bagages, et le leger du jour dans le sac a dos, c'est tout a fait jouable. laisse de la place dans le sac a dos pour les courses du jour, et ne l'alourdi pas trop sinon ce sont tes épaules qui vont crier!
bon trip, et raconte nous! 😉
J'ai du mal a imaginer de rouler avec un sac sur le dos ! En tout cas si tu prends l'option sac à dos, évite les objets durs ça peut être très dangereux en cas de chute...
J'ai du mal a imaginer de rouler avec un sac sur le dos ! En tout cas si tu prends l'option sac à dos, évite les objets durs ça peut être très dangereux en cas de chute...
C'est certainement une question de goût ;) Moi je m'imagine pas sans. De plus, le sac à dos m'a évité de finir dans un fauteuil roulant lors d'une sérieuse chute à cheval.
C'est certainement une question de goût ;) Moi je m'imagine pas sans. De plus, le sac à dos m'a évité de finir dans un fauteuil roulant lors d'une sérieuse chute à cheval.
Rech. filles pour randos VTT/VTC! :)
personnellement, lorsque je fais de la route, j'aime bien ne rien avoir sur le dos. surtout quand il fait chaud. donc je met tout sur le porte bagages.
par contre, en vtt un petit sac est trés suportable et pratique, à condition de ne pas trop le charger et de ne mettre que les affaires du jour dedans, ou les affaires fragiles (casse croute, coupe vent, chambres a air, appareil photo, cartes, boussole... etc)
mais rouler avec un gros sac lourd qui tire sur les épaules et dont le casque tape dedans chaque fois que l'on relève le menton... je n'envisage pas trop non plus.
il faut choisir un sac spécial vélo, qui a un dos rembouré et une forme adaptée a la position particulière du cycliste sur son vélo. un sac de rando pedestre est rarement bien adapté a mon avis.
il existe des sacs a dos de vélo d'environ 20 litres (D4, celui de la photo) que je trouve bien adaptés à la grande rando vtt.
je suis parti 4 jours en raid vtt j'avais un camelback 2.5L pour l'eau, et 2 gourde sur porte bidon, pour l'eau, j'allais taper a la porte de la maison du coin, aucun soucis, dans mon camelback, j'ai mis une grosse polaire, portable, pièce de rechange vtt, mp3, argent, et puis il y avait un peu de place pour la bouffe, puis le minimum de vetement de rechange. sur le filet du camelback ( exterieur ) j'ai mis un hamac, puis j'ai attaché au camelback une casserole ( cuisson au feu de bois :D ) puis dans la petite poche avant brosse a dent, dentifrice, shampoing, et briquet.
puis pour se laver j'ai pris une serviette, short de bain ( qui sert de short egalement ) puis bache, au cas ou il pleuvait., j'ai enroulé tout cas en faisant un petit boudain très compact, puis j'ai sanglé sa sur un coté de la fourche, sa gene pas du tout et puis c'est ok ! ou a la place de la fourche, tu peux mettre sa derrière, sur le coté opposé au derailleur 😉
puis pour se laver j'ai pris une serviette, short de bain ( qui sert de short egalement ) puis bache, au cas ou il pleuvait., j'ai enroulé tout cas en faisant un petit boudain très compact, puis j'ai sanglé sa sur un coté de la fourche, sa gene pas du tout et puis c'est ok ! ou a la place de la fourche, tu peux mettre sa derrière, sur le coté opposé au derailleur 😉
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Before I embarked on my own bike trips, I dreamed a lot about them—from the Atacama to the Gobi, along the Mekong, and not forgetting France. And now, these 130 pages every quarter keep those dreamy vibes alive through stories written in the most beautiful prose.
I’ll stop here because it might sound like I’m advertising, but if you don’t know *200*, I invite you to discover it. It’ll give you wings for the most incredible challenges or simply reinforce your desire for slow rides with your eyes open to others and nature.
A little news to wrap up: Axel Carion and a friend just broke the record for crossing South America from Colombia to Ushuaia in 59 days. On its own, that doesn’t mean much, but I can’t help it—it makes me dream. You should see how he talks about it, the flashes of that wild nature he’s stored away: a snowstorm at Paso Jama and the surreal sight of the suddenly snow-covered Licancabur!
Luc PS: The magazine is called *200* because a day’s ride starts at 200 km—well, I’ve never done a ride like that since my longest was 167 km (with 18 kg of luggage, mind you), but why not one day? The magazine will explain how to tackle your first 200, and then the question in conclusion: when will you do your first 300?😏
Hi there,
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I’ve got my flight ticket sorted—departing in mid-November and returning in mid-March. I’ll arrive in Santiago and leave from Buenos Aires. I’ve already been to southern Argentina, specifically Torres del Paine National Park, and I’d love to go back to do the full W trek (I only did the shorter version last time). I also want to do some hiking and maybe even tackle a summit. I climb and occasionally do some mountaineering, so I’ll definitely be going with a guide.
I plan to start around Temuco in Chile, with the idea of heading toward the lakes, then taking the Carretera Austral. I’m not sure if I’ll go all the way to Ushuaia—it’s supposed to not be *that* worth it, except for the bragging rights of saying you’ve been to the end of the world.
I saw there are lakes in Argentina too.
I don’t have a precise itinerary, but what I’d love is, once I reach the southernmost point of my trip, to take a mini-cruise to see some wildlife. Any tips for that?
What kind of sleeping bag did you take? Is a 0°C (32°F) one enough? And one last question: white gas stove or can I get by with my gas stove?
Nath
I'm developing a free and open-source web app for planning walking and cycling trips (and even car trips). You can create a route by clicking directly on the map to add waypoints, and it can consist of multiple stages. The app provides tools to edit the stages and the overall route, and to display useful information (distances, altitudes, and elevation changes). A relief profile can be shown as a graph for a specific stage or the entire route.
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Once the route is ready, it can be exported as a GPX file, which can then be used with a GPS or a mobile navigation app.
The app is built in JavaScript and runs entirely in the web browser. It uses the Leaflet library and several OpenStreetMap-based services. Initially developed for my personal needs (I enjoy hiking and cycle touring), I’d be happy to share it with anyone who might find it useful. It’s free to use, doesn’t require an account, and the source code is available.
Source code: https://github.com/patricklmarie/GPX-Route-Planner Online demo: https://patricklmarie.github.io/GPX-Route-Planner/
Heinz Stucke has passed away.
He never stopped traveling the world since 1962.
So sad.
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
https://www.facebook.com/heinzstucke
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hello,
We’d like to go on a 3- to 4-month bike trip starting in December, crossing from Assam (northeast India) to New Delhi via Nepal.
Are there routes with light traffic along the Brahmaputra and through Nepal?
We’re also looking for any info on accommodations, wild camping, local interactions, etc.
Thanks,
Michel
Hi there,
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
I’m planning to cycle from Morlaix to Brest (via Roscoff and the V45 coastal route). We’ll start riding on August 16th for 13 days (with stops for island visits, surfing, etc.). Is there a lot of traffic at this time of year? I’ve got two kids, 11 and 13, and we don’t like riding in the middle of cars (we’ve already done the Vélomaritime—Caen to Cherbourg—the Loire route from Orléans to Saumur, the Vélodyssée from Nantes to Royans, and the canals like the Nivernais and Bourgogne, where there were plenty of bike-only lanes, which isn’t the case on this route).
Thanks for your help if you’ve already done this route in late August! Virginie
Hi there,
I’ve been road cycling for several years, and I’m about to switch to gravel in the next few days—I’m waiting for my bike, which should arrive this week.
I’m planning a bikepacking trip in a few weeks along the Véloroute V81, also known as the Vélosud, from Biarritz to Le Barcarès.
Has anyone here already done this route? Any info is welcome, whether it’s about the route itself, gear, or accommodation. I’ll prioritize staying with locals as much as possible. On that note, I just signed up for the brand-new site *Guidon et Couette* ((www.guidon-et-couette.fr)), which offers free accommodation between cyclists across the country, but there’s almost no one listed along my route!
Thanks in advance.
Laurent.
Hi there, I’m planning a cross-Canada bike trip, and I’ve got a question that might seem silly, but could someone tell me how to pack a bike (in a box, with a fragile sticker... I don’t know) for a flight? Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone,
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon







