Circuits Systeme D en Inde avec trains et bus locaux?
by Patricecaf
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
quel un a t il deja fait un circuit appele CIRCUIT SYSTEME D en bus et train locaux ? - j ai juste le nom mais pas celui de l organisateur - on m a parlé de voyages moins chers en transport locaux longs circuits de 20 jours ou plus accompagnés par un connaisseur qui encadre des petits groupes de 6 a 10 personnes je crois ? Si vous savez comment les trouvez je suis preneur de l info ;;;;
par avance merci
Je ne connais pas ce type de voyage.Une question : as-tu déja mis les pieds en Inde ? Si c'est non, je te déconseille les bus locaux, sauf si tu as vraiment envie de te faire peur.Pars-tu seul ou à plusieurs ? Le meilleur moyen est de louer une voiture avec chauffeur - pas si cher que cela -.Nous rentrons d'un voyage en Inde et au Népal (3 semaines ), en Inde c'était notre 3eme voyage- Si tu veux des renseignements nous sommes à ta disposition.
Mariany
merci pour ton message. je pense comme toi que la voiture cela doit être le top mais
pour une personne qui voyage seul comme moi cela fait cher
pour les circuits systeme D j ai trouvé l'information il s agit d une agence qui s'appelle les rendez vous de l'inde - ils proposent des départs base 6 personnes et un accompagnateur çà me semble bien car ils m ont expliqué que certains trajets se font en taxis, d autres en train et enfin en bus locaux mais dans la gamme des bus confortables ..
dans tous les cas grand merci Pat
jE ME MELE DE CE QUI NE ME REGARDE PAS !! MAIS MEFIES-TOI QUAND MEME CAR JE SUIS ALLEE SUR LE SITE ET CELA ME SEMBLE ELEVE ; UN CIRCUIT AU RAJASTAN DE 14 JOURS EN VOITURE REVIENT A 440 EUROS, LES CHAUFFEURS CONNAISSENT DES HOTELS PAS CHERS, TU T'ARRETES OU TU VEUX, QUAND TU VEUX ET TU FAIS CE QUE TU VEUX, NOUS SOMMES ALLES TROIS FOIS EN INDE DANS DES ENDROITS DIFFERENTS ET CELA NE NOUS A PAS COUTE UNE FORTUNE, S'ILS LE FONT CROIS-MOI ILS NE SONT PERDANTS!!
J'ai fait un circuit par mes propres moyens il y a 3 ans dans le Nord de l'Inde, sans agence et sans difficulté.
J'ai utilisé le train, les bus et parfois nous avons loué une moto.
Pour ce qui concerne le train, il faut penser à réserver tes billets 1 ou 2 jours à l'avance pour être sûr d'avoir une place (il faut savoir que le réseau ferré indien est le plus étendu au monde)
Pour ce qui concerne le bus, les mises en garde qu'on t'a déjà faites sont bien fondées; c'est parfois dangereux, surtout la nuit.
Si non, pas de problème pour obtenir un billet ou pour se renseigner sur un itinéraire ou des horaires car pratiquement tout le monde parle l'anglais derrière les guichets. Il existe aussi dans les grandes gares des guichets et des salles d'attentes réservées aux touristes.
Bon voyage🙂
Bon voyage🙂
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tu peux aller dans le site internet les rendez vous de l inde / circuits rtendez vous en bas de page systeme d
je ne te suis pas pas ton raisonnement
en tout cas en ce qui me concerne ....21 jours au rajasthan incluant le transport aérien de france qui coute déjà plus de 700 euros (a ces dates j ai regarde) il reste 1050 euros pour les transports les hotels toutes les visites ( droits dnetrees auout de 100 euros dans le rajasthan si tu veux tout voir ) incluant la marge de l agence et la responsabilite civile de l organisateur et un accompagnateur qui me guide ............je trouverque ce n'ai pas cher payé ....et puis je ne me sens pas de faire le circuit tout seul ..
merci de tes recommandations néanmoins elle me serint utiles Pat
Bonjour,
je viens de lire ton message ( Patricecaf), je suis en train de préparer un voyage de 17 jours dans le Nord, je lis que tu as pris une voiture avec chauffeur pour 440€, pourrais tu me donner le nom de ce loueur stp et me dire aussi envrion tout compris (sans le vol de la france) combien t'as couté les 3 semaines ??? J'aiemrais faire le Rajasthan + Varanasi et je n'ai vraiment pas un gros budget ....
merci d'avance
Alilo
bonjour a tous..
le bus local et le meilleur moyen de bouger sur des petites distances et en plus tu est en inde !! tu a pas besoin de reserver et c est vrai la nuit sa peut etre dangeureux parce que les chauffeurs roule a donf mais bon les discussions interminable permette de zaper c est chauffard !!
pour les trains suivant les lignes il faut booker pas mal de jours a l avance par contre si tu peut reserver des billet pour t destination future c le mieu ! mais ton truc systeme D si tu voyage en bus et train prepare le toi meme et tu rencontrera des gents sur ton parcour sans probleme
have a good trip 🙂
le bus local et le meilleur moyen de bouger sur des petites distances et en plus tu est en inde !! tu a pas besoin de reserver et c est vrai la nuit sa peut etre dangeureux parce que les chauffeurs roule a donf mais bon les discussions interminable permette de zaper c est chauffard !!
pour les trains suivant les lignes il faut booker pas mal de jours a l avance par contre si tu peut reserver des billet pour t destination future c le mieu ! mais ton truc systeme D si tu voyage en bus et train prepare le toi meme et tu rencontrera des gents sur ton parcour sans probleme
have a good trip 🙂
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Thanks so much,
Karine
I’m heading to Japan for the second time with my 20-year-old son. During our first trip, we spent two weeks in Tokyo and Kyoto (plus the surrounding areas). This time, we’re planning to stay in Tokyo for at least 4-5 days and then head to the island of Naoshima. I’m looking for suggestions and advice: Is getting to Naoshima from Tokyo complicated? If so, do you have any recommendations for a stopover somewhere? Given that we’d prefer not to move every day, we’d rather settle in one place and then explore on day trips... Do you think it’s possible to do something like this: 5 nights in Tokyo (Shinjuku) 3 nights in Kyoto 2 nights in Naoshima (or is one night enough??) and if one night is enough, where could I spend a second night on the way back to Tokyo? 2 nights in Tokyo (I’d love your advice on staying in a different neighborhood—last time we stayed near Ueno Park)—keeping in mind we’re flying out of Narita.
I’m considering maybe skipping Kyoto, which I love but has apparently become *very* touristy... Not really keen on Osaka... since we’ll already have done Tokyo as our "big city." I’d prefer towns where nature is present... (a bit like Kyoto, which offers all that...)
For info, we’ll be traveling by train. Thanks in advance for all your suggestions and help!
I have one last little question: Is cash still widely used in Japan, or not at all anymore?
Thanks so much,
Karine
Hi everyone,
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)
We’re planning this *very* last-minute—I know! But we’d love to spend 4 days soon (within the next 10–12 days) on a city getaway with our young adult kids. Ideally by train, and for this short trip, we’d prefer not to spend more than 4–6 hours in transit, leaving from Lausanne (Switzerland). We’ve been considering Milan, Strasbourg, or Freiburg im Breisgau, but I’ll admit I’m feeling a bit lost...
Venice was our original plan, but the connection changes in Domodossola or Milan are making the travel time longer this year.
It’s peak summer, so there’ll be tourists and it’ll likely be hot, but oh well...
Any suggestions? We love wandering around, taking photos, exploring cities on foot, trying out restaurants, and keeping things low-key.
Thanks to anyone who wants to chime in! :o)