Merci pour ta réponse. Oui je suis déjà allé sur ce site mais apparemment rien. 😕
Je suis également allé sur des site chinois et je n'a pas sû faire une recherche, ne comprenant pas les idéogrammes (mon voyage s'annonce épique !!)🏴☠️
En fait, la difficulté est que ce site ne reconnait que la bonne orthographe des noms de ville, et ne donne que des directs. S'il n'y a pas de direct, c'est à toi de supposer les bons endroits où changer.
Par exemple tu trouves un Kunming -> Guangzhou (Canton) et ensuite tu as des Guangzhou -> Jiulongg (Hong Kong) très souvent.
Voilà voilà.
Marseil😎
"Rien ne développe l'intelligence comme les voyages."
Emile Zola
Et oups pour moi : je viens de voir qu'on ne peut pas réserver par ce site. Alors question bis : connais-tu un site ou on peut réserver en ligne car j'avais vu qu'il fallait au moins s'y prendre 10 jours à l'avance pour réserver des billets si on voulait être sûr de trouver une place
Tu peux acheter partout en Chine ton billet de train directement a la gare, y a toujours de la place, faire Kunming/Guangzhou.
K366 10h30 arrive 25h apres 11h30
K232 21h20 arrive 24h apres 21h30
Puis Guangzhou/HK, la billetterie est au 1er étage de la gare, la ou sont les taxis (sous les arcades du bâtiment) un escalier part pour le 1er étage, tu peux pas te tromper. Ecrit To HongKong
les horaires sont ici
http://www.it3.kcrc.com/B2C/UserPage/sysTimeTable_Eng.asp
Pour la petite histoire Jiu Long (en mandarin) signifie Kow Loon (en cantonais) soit 9 dragons.
Kowloon étant la ville sur la péninsule face à l’ile de HK, la gare est située à Hung Hom Kowloon.
tu as des vols Kunming Guangzhou
CZ3410 16:25 - 18:15
MU4371 16:00 -17:45
CZ3420 19:20 - 21:10
Environ 125 euros, achete a une agence CTS China Travel Service a Kunming
Et aussi le "Sleeper Bus" ou bus couchettes, si les odeurs de pieds et bruits divers ne te font pas peur, environ 26 euros pour 24h de .....😕
D'après ce que j'ai vu sur le site indiqué par Yagao, le prix d'une couchette pour ce trajet (aller simple je présume) est de 60$ pour une couchette molle et un peu moins (de mémoire 48$) pour une couchette dure.
Pour les hôtels, les bons plans, je les aurais peut-être à mon retour de voyage c'est à dire début janvier.
Bonjour,
C'est genial ces infos,
je decouvre le site... quelle mine !
je cherchais justement cette info, transport entre Hong Kong et Kunming
parce que je vais dans le Yunnan et le Sichuan, mais ai trouvé un billet pas cher pour Hong Kong
vous dites donc que
en train c'est 24h de Kunming à Guangzhou
et de Guangzhou à Hong Kong c'est combien de temps ?
et en avion c'est 2h, sans escale entre les 2 villes Hong Kong et Kunming ?
que ce soit en avion ou en train, me conseillez vous de reserver avant de partir ?
(sachant que je ne connais pas la chine, ne parle pas la langue...)
ou bien ces tarifs ne s'appliquent qu'en prenant le billet sur place ?
Merci de vos renseignements
Bien à vous
Gwennaelle
J'avais l'intention de rejoindre Kunming depuis Canton par le train mais je n'ai jamais trouvé la bonne gare :-) La première difficulté est bien celle de la langue et l'anglais n'est pas une langue si pratiquée que ça (enfin en tout cas au gré de mes rencontres). J'ai finalement opté pour l'avion avec China Southern Airlines. J'ai acheté mon billet sur place.
Un conseil avant votre départ : notez le nom des villes avec le nom chinois et écrit sous forme d'idéogramme. Ne parlant pas le chinois moi non plus, je n'ai jamais réussi à prononcer correctement le nom d'une ville et à être compris du premier coup ;-) Faites pareil pour les lieux où vous comptez dormir, c'est un gain de temps.
En ce qui concerne l'avion, vous avez également plusieurs lignes au départ de Kunming pour d'autres villes de la province du Yunnan. Sinon de nombreux bus font les navettes. En général comptez 4 ou 5 heures pour rejoindre Dali depuis Kunming et le même temps pour faire Dali Lijiang (si vous faites le nord du Yunnan bien sûr).
Le train qui relie HK à Canton est très confortable. Il met 1h30 ou 2h de mémoire. Attention aux visas si vous faites des allers/retours entre HK et la chine continentale. En revanche, j'ai le souvenir d'un billet assez cher entre Kunming et HK en avion. A vérifier.
Voilà j'espère vous apporter quelques éléments de réponse. N'hésitez pas à me faire farfouiller dans ma mémoire c'est une vrai bonheur ! Et surtout bon voyage !
bonjour
merci de votre réponse
ok je vais prevoir un maximum pour l'arrivée surtout que je serai seule à ce moment là
en fait je me disais qu'arriver à hong kon, g pouvait etre plus economique (j'ai trouvé un billet à 630€) mais il faut que j'y ajoute les frais de visa hong kong et ceux de trnasport pour me rendre à kunming
est ce que vous vous souvenez du prix approximatif du billet canton-kunming?
quel est le prix du visa pour hong kong? faut il le prendre à paris ou sur place? et en prendre un autre pour la chine ?
d'abord ces choses pratiques pour prendre le billet et se ...
merci de vos nouveaux renseignements
à bientôt
gwennaelle
Pour les visas, à ma connaissance, vous n'avez pas besoin, si vous êtes française, de visa pour HK. Vous avez besoin d'un visa pour entrer en Chine continentale. Donc si vous faites Chine / HK / Chine, vous aurez besoin d'un visa à double entrée. En revanche si vous faite HK / Chine / HK vous n'aurez besoin que d'un visa. Les visas doivent pouvoir être retirés à l'ambassade de Chine si vous résidez en région parisienne (Gwenn77 : je présume que oui) mais vous pouvez le faire en passant par des sociétés qui, moyennant une commission, s'en chargeront pour vous. Pratique pour ceux qui n'ont pas de représentation dans leur ville de résidence (c'est mon cas car je vis à Lyon) mais c'est assez cher. Attention, de mémoire il y a des horaires précis pour retirer un visa à l'ambassade de Chine et il faut compter une trentaine d'euros je crois. Le formulaire peut-être retiré sur le site de l'ambassade (ou sur action-visas.com sans faire de pub).
Sinon, si vous restez quelques jours sur HK, je sais que vous pouvez acheter un visa auprès de l'ambassade de France.
Pour les billets d'avion, là encore de mémoire, l'aller Canton / Kunming doit coûter environ 120€. J'ai acheté le billet sur place. N'ayant pas acheté de billet sur Paris, je ne sais pas ce qui est préférable. Il vous faudra donc comparer les prix.
En fait, le choix d'acheter sur place ou à Paris dépend du prix mais aussi du temps que vous êtes prête à passer pour trouver la bonne agence, vous faire comprendre et acheter votre billet. Ca peut paraître évident mais la barrière de la langue est un frein. Si vous faites un voyage express, préparez le plus possible en France. Si vous avez le temps et le goût, faites le plus de choses en Chine : ça vous permettra de vivre des choses un peu différentes, nouvelles et moins conformes à ce que vous connaissez.
J'espère vous avoir apporté quelques éléments de réponse.
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