Vive la fin du pétrole!
by Roulelemonde
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Au moins l'espèce humaine n'aura plus rien à consumer et polluer en rejettant dans l'atmosphère des tonnes de Co2 et autres gaz toxiques;
Fini les touristes et le consumérisme (les deux étant liés) qui se la jouent "voyageurs" en s'achetant des billets "tour du monde", ou juste en se payant des aller-retour après leur boulot, pour aller frimer ou chercher une fille facile à phuket !
Fini les routes surpeuplées de bagnoles (engins de mort) qui crachent leur bruit et leurs mépris de la nature, fini le moteur à explosion qui va bientot finir par faire exploser la terre;
L'heure sera au retour aux voyages qui se méritent, lents, modestes, loyaux, à la force des pieds, des pédales, des pagaies ou des voiles, ou aidés pour d'autres par le train s'il reste de l'électricité ou des chevaux s'ils n'ont pas fuit d'ici-là (et je les comprends); et pour ceux qui ne peuvent ou ne veulent pas s'y résoudre, ils n'auront qu'à rester chez eux dans les paisibles campagnes s'il en reste, ou dans leurs mégalopoles suffocantes, qui sont des taches bétonnées et laides sur la magnifique toile peinte par la nature
La voiture, est le contraire de la liberté, l'avion une ruine écologique volante;
Le but ne sera plus la destination, mais le chemin, ce qui à bien y réfléchir est la définition même du voyage
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
La voiture, est le contraire de la liberté, l'avion une ruine écologique volante;
Pas du tout d'accord avec toi !
Sauf qu'en effet, peut-être qu'un jour il n'y aura plus de pétrole, alors justement, je profite au maximum de ces engins de liberté que sont la voiture et l'avion pour découvrir le monde, d'autres cultures et ouvrir mon esprit... avant que ce ne soit plus possible 😉 !
Pas du tout d'accord avec toi !
Sauf qu'en effet, peut-être qu'un jour il n'y aura plus de pétrole, alors justement, je profite au maximum de ces engins de liberté que sont la voiture et l'avion pour découvrir le monde, d'autres cultures et ouvrir mon esprit... avant que ce ne soit plus possible 😉 !
plus rien à consumer
Ton cerveau fumera-t-il encore?😎 As-tu envisager que les besoins en énergies ne concernent pas que le transport, loin s'en faut? Sais-tu que les avions voleront avec d'autres énergies que le pétrole avant que les réserves soient épuisées?
n'aura plus rien à ... polluer
Il restera ta vision égoïste et manichéenne. Et la haine qui suinte de tes propos.
Ton cerveau fumera-t-il encore?😎 As-tu envisager que les besoins en énergies ne concernent pas que le transport, loin s'en faut? Sais-tu que les avions voleront avec d'autres énergies que le pétrole avant que les réserves soient épuisées?
n'aura plus rien à ... polluer
Il restera ta vision égoïste et manichéenne. Et la haine qui suinte de tes propos.
Qui est égoiste et manichéen ? Celui qui se soucie de la terre, et cherche à vivre de manière plus respectueuse et honnete, moins dépendante d'un système néfaste, ou celui qui préfère consommer à outrance jusqu'à plus soif pour son plaisir, sans penser aux dégats qu'il laissera à l'environnement et aux générations futures (toutes espèces confondues) ?
D'autant que pour voyager avec avion-voiture de location, il faut souvent pas mal de fric, donc être bien rémunéré par ce même système avec lequel ils collaborent; Comme quoi c'est un cercle vicieux ou logique !
Pas de haine, juste une saine rébellion contre une société qui n'est pas la mienne 😉
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
En ce qui me concerne, je n'ai pas engendré de descendance donc, si tout le monde faisait comme moi, la terre serait débarrassée de l'être humain (l'élément pollueur par excellence) pour toujours dans moins d'un siècle. Alors oui, en effet, dans ma situation, je peux me permettre d'en profiter au maximum... Ceux qui ont décidé de laisser la planète à des êtres humains qu'ils ont engendrés et qui à leur tour se reproduiront peut-être ont probablement davantage de raisons de se soucier de la pollution car il ont sans doute un peu un devoir d'anticipation (et peut-être aussi un léger sentiment de culpabilité).
D'autant que pour voyager avec avion-voiture de location, il faut souvent pas mal de fric, donc être bien rémunéré par ce même système avec lequel ils collaborent; Comme quoi c'est un cercle vicieux ou logique !
Personnellement, j'adore ma vie. Je suis libre. Libre de sortir, de voyager, de découvrir le monde comme je le veux (quand mon travail, qui me passionne au passage, m'en laisse le temps), alors si tu vis si mal sur cette planète et dans ce système, hé bien c'est dommage pour toi, mais de nombreuses personnes y trouvent très largement leur compte... Et au passage, il n'y a pas besoin d'avoir "pas mal de fric" pour louer une voiture ou prendre un avion... Si tu utilisais davantage ces moyens de transport et de liberté, tu le saurais 😛 !
juste une saine rébellion contre une société qui n'est pas la mienne
Finalement, tu dois vivre plus mal que ceux qui profitent de ce monde moderne et (peut-être) éphémère.
D'autant que pour voyager avec avion-voiture de location, il faut souvent pas mal de fric, donc être bien rémunéré par ce même système avec lequel ils collaborent; Comme quoi c'est un cercle vicieux ou logique !
Personnellement, j'adore ma vie. Je suis libre. Libre de sortir, de voyager, de découvrir le monde comme je le veux (quand mon travail, qui me passionne au passage, m'en laisse le temps), alors si tu vis si mal sur cette planète et dans ce système, hé bien c'est dommage pour toi, mais de nombreuses personnes y trouvent très largement leur compte... Et au passage, il n'y a pas besoin d'avoir "pas mal de fric" pour louer une voiture ou prendre un avion... Si tu utilisais davantage ces moyens de transport et de liberté, tu le saurais 😛 !
juste une saine rébellion contre une société qui n'est pas la mienne
Finalement, tu dois vivre plus mal que ceux qui profitent de ce monde moderne et (peut-être) éphémère.
Si je me souviens, une voiture de location "premiers prix", tourne souvent autour de 25, 30 , ou 35 euros ou plus par jour suivant les pays non ?
Tu es libre de dépendre uniquement des loueurs, mais à mon avis, tu dois aussi pas mal travailler pour assurer ça sur longtemps non ?
moi à pieds, à vélo ou autre, je suis libre de dépendre des loueurs ou de ne pas en dépendre ;), et je travaillote vraiment à la cool ! quand je veux, où je veux, si je veux; mais après comme tu dis, c'est une question de choix personnel, et je suis bien mieux sur les collines, que dans la fourmilière, et comme toi je ne souhaite pas engendrer d'enfants, pour eux, pour moi, et pour la terre aussi 😉
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
comme toi je ne souhaite pas engendrer d'enfants,
Mais d'abord, en apparté, tu ne veux pas nous parler de l'amour... et des femmes ?
Mais d'abord, en apparté, tu ne veux pas nous parler de l'amour... et des femmes ?
Non, ma vie ne dépend pas uniquement des loueurs 😄 !
Ah oui c'est vrai, autant pour moi, tu dépends aussi de ton patron ou clients, des congés acceptés, pour pouvoir ensuite dépendre des loueurs et des compagnies aeriennes, on a rien sans rien dans cette société ! Il parait que même les funerailles sont payants, à quand l'air respirable payant ?🙂 Bientot peut-etre...
Kola écrit "..."
J'adore l'amour !, les femmes un peu moins, ça dépend lesquelles, y a de tout partout, surtout qu'une bonne part sont incapables d'aimer, mais connaissent mieux le désir et la haine, comme pas mal d'hommes quoi c'est comme tout 😎
Ah oui c'est vrai, autant pour moi, tu dépends aussi de ton patron ou clients, des congés acceptés, pour pouvoir ensuite dépendre des loueurs et des compagnies aeriennes, on a rien sans rien dans cette société ! Il parait que même les funerailles sont payants, à quand l'air respirable payant ?🙂 Bientot peut-etre...
Kola écrit "..."
J'adore l'amour !, les femmes un peu moins, ça dépend lesquelles, y a de tout partout, surtout qu'une bonne part sont incapables d'aimer, mais connaissent mieux le désir et la haine, comme pas mal d'hommes quoi c'est comme tout 😎
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
Fini les touristes et le consumérisme (les deux étant liés) qui se la jouent "voyageurs" en s'achetant des billets "tour du monde", ou juste en se payant des aller-retour après leur boulot, pour aller frimer ou chercher une fille facile à phuket !
Je ne vois pas bien le rapport entre le début et la fin de ta phrase...
Les touristes sont tous des obsédés sexuels ?
Le transport aérien ne mènerait-il qu'à d'autres transports ?
ls n'auront qu'à rester chez eux dans les paisibles campagnes
Personnellement, j'habite en ville. Je n'ai pas conduit depuis... ???
Mais, tous ces campagnards que tu idéalises en écologistes possèdent ces vilains objets de transport, souvent en plusieurs unités d'ailleurs... Ils n'ont pas tellement le choix s'ils veulent bosser, emmener les enfants à l'école ou tout simplement manger...
Alors Urbain/Polueur, Rural/Ecolo, je n'y crois pas trop...
Le but ne sera plus la destination, mais le chemin, ce qui à bien y réfléchir est la définition même du voyage
Et c'est quand que je travaille ???🤪 Parce que je ne suis ni rentière, ni étudiante, ni retraitée alors le temps libre m'est quand même un peu compté...😕
Je ne vois pas bien le rapport entre le début et la fin de ta phrase...
Les touristes sont tous des obsédés sexuels ?
Le transport aérien ne mènerait-il qu'à d'autres transports ?
ls n'auront qu'à rester chez eux dans les paisibles campagnes
Personnellement, j'habite en ville. Je n'ai pas conduit depuis... ???
Mais, tous ces campagnards que tu idéalises en écologistes possèdent ces vilains objets de transport, souvent en plusieurs unités d'ailleurs... Ils n'ont pas tellement le choix s'ils veulent bosser, emmener les enfants à l'école ou tout simplement manger...
Alors Urbain/Polueur, Rural/Ecolo, je n'y crois pas trop...
Le but ne sera plus la destination, mais le chemin, ce qui à bien y réfléchir est la définition même du voyage
Et c'est quand que je travaille ???🤪 Parce que je ne suis ni rentière, ni étudiante, ni retraitée alors le temps libre m'est quand même un peu compté...😕
moi à pieds, à vélo ou autre, je suis libre de dépendre des loueurs ou de ne pas en dépendre
Les transports en commun, tu connais ???
quand je veux, où je veux, si je veux
Ce n'est pas un raisonnement légèrement égoïste ?
Je pense que si tout le monde adoptait ton monde de vie, la vie deviendrait vite assez intenable sur terre...
Un feu : Bah non, j'ai pas envie de bosser aujourd'hui...🤪
Une récolte : vos légumes je veux bien les ramasser au mois de décembre...🤪
Une opération en urgence : j'peux pas j'me promène ...🤪
Les transports en commun, tu connais ???
quand je veux, où je veux, si je veux
Ce n'est pas un raisonnement légèrement égoïste ?
Je pense que si tout le monde adoptait ton monde de vie, la vie deviendrait vite assez intenable sur terre...
Un feu : Bah non, j'ai pas envie de bosser aujourd'hui...🤪
Une récolte : vos légumes je veux bien les ramasser au mois de décembre...🤪
Une opération en urgence : j'peux pas j'me promène ...🤪
Il parait que même les funerailles sont payants
Et ????
Tu t'en fous, généralement tu es décédé quand on t'enterre ou t'incinère...😄
Cette peur de laisser des dettes à ta mort prouve que tu es finalement très dans le moule de notre société .😉
Et ????
Tu t'en fous, généralement tu es décédé quand on t'enterre ou t'incinère...😄
Cette peur de laisser des dettes à ta mort prouve que tu es finalement très dans le moule de notre société .😉
on a rien sans rien dans cette société !
C'est un truisme, on n'a rien sans rien dans n'importe quelle société. Dans ton genre, tu es très conformiste, très prévisible.
C'est un truisme, on n'a rien sans rien dans n'importe quelle société. Dans ton genre, tu es très conformiste, très prévisible.
Ah oui c'est vrai, autant pour moi, tu dépends aussi de ton patron ou clients, des congés acceptés, pour pouvoir ensuite dépendre des loueurs et des compagnies aeriennes, on a rien sans rien dans cette société !
Je ne dépend que de moi-même, je suis mon propre patron 😉 !
Et toi, tu fais la manche pour rouler en vélo peut-être ?
Je ne dépend que de moi-même, je suis mon propre patron 😉 !
Et toi, tu fais la manche pour rouler en vélo peut-être ?
Je ne dépend que de moi-même, je suis mon propre patron 😉 !
Et toi, tu fais la manche pour rouler en vélo peut-être ?
Je suis aussi mon propre patron ;) Mais si tu as besoin de bosser autant pour avoir "enfin du temps libre", c'est que tu ne sais pas le prendre; Les transports en commun sont tout sauf un voyage pour moi, à consommer avec beaucoup de modération et à éviter autant que possible A attila, tu crois que les urbains sont des exemples d'écologie ? les villes sont des "cancers" à la surface du globe, en plus d'envahir la nature, ils consomment et épuisent l'équilibre et les ressources naturelles;Et pour reprendre mon propre exemple, on peut vivre entre mer et montagne, sans pour autant être agriculteur ou saisonnier, ni avoir une voiture, cela dit, c'est à chacun de trouver ce qui lui convient, dans le respect des autres si possible !
Et toi, tu fais la manche pour rouler en vélo peut-être ?
Je suis aussi mon propre patron ;) Mais si tu as besoin de bosser autant pour avoir "enfin du temps libre", c'est que tu ne sais pas le prendre; Les transports en commun sont tout sauf un voyage pour moi, à consommer avec beaucoup de modération et à éviter autant que possible A attila, tu crois que les urbains sont des exemples d'écologie ? les villes sont des "cancers" à la surface du globe, en plus d'envahir la nature, ils consomment et épuisent l'équilibre et les ressources naturelles;Et pour reprendre mon propre exemple, on peut vivre entre mer et montagne, sans pour autant être agriculteur ou saisonnier, ni avoir une voiture, cela dit, c'est à chacun de trouver ce qui lui convient, dans le respect des autres si possible !
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
... Pas de haine, juste une saine rébellion contre une société qui n'est pas la mienne ...
... moi à pieds, à vélo ou autre, je suis libre de dépendre des loueurs ou de ne pas en dépendre ;), et je travaillote vraiment à la cool ! quand je veux, où je veux, si je veux; ... et je suis bien mieux sur les collines, que dans la fourmilière, ... je ne souhaite pas engendrer d'enfants, pour eux, pour moi, et pour la terre aussi
... Je suis aussi mon propre patron
... pour reprendre mon propre exemple, on peut vivre entre mer et montagne, sans pour autant être agriculteur ou saisonnier, ni avoir une voiture
Et le meilleur pour la fin :
... les femmes un peu moins, ça dépend lesquelles, y a de tout partout, surtout qu'une bonne part sont incapables d'aimer, mais connaissent mieux le désir et la haine
Que veux tu démontrer en ouvrant une telle discussion avec ce titre... qui se voudrait bombe, qui n'est que pétard mouillé...
Nous donner ton chemin de vie en exemple à suivre ?
Et le meilleur pour la fin :
... les femmes un peu moins, ça dépend lesquelles, y a de tout partout, surtout qu'une bonne part sont incapables d'aimer, mais connaissent mieux le désir et la haine
Que veux tu démontrer en ouvrant une telle discussion avec ce titre... qui se voudrait bombe, qui n'est que pétard mouillé...
Nous donner ton chemin de vie en exemple à suivre ?
Cher inconnu. j'ai le bonheur d'avoir près de 80 ans. je suis allée en vélo, ce chez moi, un peu partout dans le monde. je suis heureux, plein de projet et je suis triste de voir l'esprit d'un jeune homme. Aimes tu une femme ? des enfants ? la vie
henri - voyageur 74
À la campagne, sans voiture, les gens sont carrément en marge de la société...
Il me semble que c'est exactement ce que j'ai écrit après...😇😉
Il me semble que c'est exactement ce que j'ai écrit après...😇😉
tu crois que les urbains sont des exemples d'écologie ?
Les urbains peuvent être ou ne pas être des exemples d'écologie...
Les ruraux peuvent être ou ne pas être des exemples d'écologie...
Ce n'est pas ton habitat qui décide de ce que tu es mais toi qui devient ce que tu veux être...
Les urbains peuvent être ou ne pas être des exemples d'écologie...
Les ruraux peuvent être ou ne pas être des exemples d'écologie...
Ce n'est pas ton habitat qui décide de ce que tu es mais toi qui devient ce que tu veux être...
Que veux tu démontrer en ouvrant une telle discussion avec ce titre.
Je ne sais pas ce qu'il veut démontrer mais le thème a déjà été abordé ici.
Je ne sais pas ce qu'il veut démontrer mais le thème a déjà été abordé ici.
Je ne sais pas si c'est la pollution dégagée par le sujet mais il y a beaucoup de disparus.
Y a Rouletabille qui se tue à nous expliquer les effets nocifs de l'or noir et zou une vieille discussion le démontre ! 🤪
Je dirais pourtant que c'est plus le filtre à particules que le gasoil qui est responsable de certains décès prématurés...
Je dirais pourtant que c'est plus le filtre à particules que le gasoil qui est responsable de certains décès prématurés...
le thème a déjà été abordé ici.
... certains ruminent toujours les mêmes obsessions.
... certains ruminent toujours les mêmes obsessions.
Je dirais pourtant que c'est plus le filtre à particules que le gasoil qui est responsable de certains décès prématurés...
En fait, c'est un peu plus complexe que ça.
Un diesel non dépollué envoie des particules nocives (et cancérigènes). Un filtre à particules élimine bien sûr celles-ci mais leur traitement engendre d'autres polluants, comme de dioxyde d'azote, très dangereux pour la santé.
La seule vraie solution, c'est en effet d'interdire le diesel excepté pour quelques camions (qui pourraient néanmoins devenir hybride sans mal)... C'est en gros ce qui se passe au Japon et, de fait, à Tokyo, on respire nettement mieux qu'à Paris.
Mais il ne faut pas généraliser et croire qu'on roule diesel dans le monde : c'est une (triste) spécialité de l'Europe de l'Ouest, et principalement de la France.
En fait, c'est un peu plus complexe que ça.
Un diesel non dépollué envoie des particules nocives (et cancérigènes). Un filtre à particules élimine bien sûr celles-ci mais leur traitement engendre d'autres polluants, comme de dioxyde d'azote, très dangereux pour la santé.
La seule vraie solution, c'est en effet d'interdire le diesel excepté pour quelques camions (qui pourraient néanmoins devenir hybride sans mal)... C'est en gros ce qui se passe au Japon et, de fait, à Tokyo, on respire nettement mieux qu'à Paris.
Mais il ne faut pas généraliser et croire qu'on roule diesel dans le monde : c'est une (triste) spécialité de l'Europe de l'Ouest, et principalement de la France.
En fait, c'est un peu plus complexe que ça.
Oui....😇
Oui....😇
J'ai comme l'impression que le jeddhai tchaolin est de retour..à moins qu'il n'ait fait de nouveaux adeptes?
Mais d'abord, en apparté, tu ne veux pas nous parler de l'amour... et des femmes ?
ça pourrait être plus intéressant que le sujet sur le pétrole! mais on va être hors sujet et avoir droit à une levée de boucliers!
ça pourrait être plus intéressant que le sujet sur le pétrole! mais on va être hors sujet et avoir droit à une levée de boucliers!
😏 On pourrait peut-être le lancer sur une autre piste ?
Qu'avez-vous prévu pour le 23/12/2012 😏 C'est un sujet qui fait beaucoup parler le genre illuminé 😏
Qu'avez-vous prévu pour le 23/12/2012 😏 C'est un sujet qui fait beaucoup parler le genre illuminé 😏
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Qu'avez-vous prévu pour le 23/12/2012
En voilà aussi un sujet qu'il est bon!..
En voilà aussi un sujet qu'il est bon!..
Qu'avez-vous prévu pour le 23/12/2012 ?
Randonnée en monocycle autour de mon nombril ? 😉
Randonnée en monocycle autour de mon nombril ? 😉
Très cher Roulemaboule.
Il est très impoli de montrer du doigt les autres et leurs travers. Fais gaffe. Ton Dieu étant présent partout, il se pourrait que tu le lui mettes dans l’cul!
DeCléricy
Il est très impoli de montrer du doigt les autres et leurs travers. Fais gaffe. Ton Dieu étant présent partout, il se pourrait que tu le lui mettes dans l’cul!
DeCléricy
J’en appelle à vous ô Muses
Où tant ma vie passe et s’use
Qu’encore et toujours j’aime
Mes soeurs Galère et Bohème
Au vieux Decléricy
Je déclare ici
Qu'il y a une éclaircie
Et d'un éclair si prompt
Que les sirènes des villes Jamais ne corrompt
Passant ses jours heureux A contempler la mer Et la houle des herbes hautes Marin des plaines
Sur son vélo bleu longeant le rivage Il ne veut parfois plus marcher Juste glisser entre terre et ciel
Noyé dans le voyage L'esprit baigné de solitude L'horizon est devenu son amante Et l'espace sa chambre nuptiale
Que les sirènes des villes Jamais ne corrompt
Passant ses jours heureux A contempler la mer Et la houle des herbes hautes Marin des plaines
Sur son vélo bleu longeant le rivage Il ne veut parfois plus marcher Juste glisser entre terre et ciel
Noyé dans le voyage L'esprit baigné de solitude L'horizon est devenu son amante Et l'espace sa chambre nuptiale
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
"Vive la fin du chichon!" t'inspirerait-il autant ? 😄
Que veux tu démontrer en ouvrant une telle discussion avec ce titre... qui se voudrait bombe, qui n'est que pétard mouillé...
En tous cas pour un "pétard" mouillé dont le message se veut une défense de la nature, il a l'air d'avoir pas mal pris mon pétard, au vu des réponses ;) A l'heure où la france vient de voter une loi autorisant la poursuite des corridas, (ce qui prouve le peu d'évolution de l'espèce humaine) qui sont des barbaries d'un autre siècle (ou pas) envers des êtres vivants innocents qui ont autant de valeur que nous, il serait dommage que certains militants écologistes n'aient pas un droit de réponse sur le mode de vie soit disant moderne actuel, que ce soit sur les modes de déplacements ou la vie quotidienne des gaulois, des iroquois ou des athabascans; Tchuss

En tous cas pour un "pétard" mouillé dont le message se veut une défense de la nature, il a l'air d'avoir pas mal pris mon pétard, au vu des réponses ;) A l'heure où la france vient de voter une loi autorisant la poursuite des corridas, (ce qui prouve le peu d'évolution de l'espèce humaine) qui sont des barbaries d'un autre siècle (ou pas) envers des êtres vivants innocents qui ont autant de valeur que nous, il serait dommage que certains militants écologistes n'aient pas un droit de réponse sur le mode de vie soit disant moderne actuel, que ce soit sur les modes de déplacements ou la vie quotidienne des gaulois, des iroquois ou des athabascans; Tchuss


Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
😄 Flûte je n'avais pas pensé au marronnier "corridas" 😏
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Il y a peut-être eu de nombreuses réponses, mais ça démontre quoi, depuis quand un afflux de messages signe la qualité d'une discussion ?
D'ailleurs, si on les détaille un peu ces messages... leur contenu varie peu : Toi, tu parles de toi... et les autres (dont moi) te renvoient l'éternelle image que tu donnes à montrer ici.
Quel que soit le masque, le visage qui se cache derrière est toujours le même !
Tu réclames un droit de réponse... mais sur quoi ? Le mouvement écologiste dont tu te prétends un héraut n'a que faire de ces démonstrations un peu vaines. Ça le décrédibilise plus que ça ne le sert.
D'ailleurs, si on les détaille un peu ces messages... leur contenu varie peu : Toi, tu parles de toi... et les autres (dont moi) te renvoient l'éternelle image que tu donnes à montrer ici.
Quel que soit le masque, le visage qui se cache derrière est toujours le même !
Tu réclames un droit de réponse... mais sur quoi ? Le mouvement écologiste dont tu te prétends un héraut n'a que faire de ces démonstrations un peu vaines. Ça le décrédibilise plus que ça ne le sert.
il serait dommage que certains militants écologistes n'aient pas un droit de réponse sur le mode de vie soit disant moderne actuel,
D’accord avec toi sur un point : nous n’avons qu’une Terre à notre disposition… pour l’instant (la Terre étant le berceau de L’Homme, qui est l’homme ou la femme qui désire passer toute sa vie dans un berceau?).
Cependant, des sceptico-écolo-pédagogues, ça on en a des millions. Un de plus ou de moins!
Il y a de l’espoir pour cette planète : à chaque heure qui passe des milliers de poupons naissent. Un Mozart, deux Baudelaire, trois Nelligan, quatre Aragon et le monde est refait.
DeCléricy
D’accord avec toi sur un point : nous n’avons qu’une Terre à notre disposition… pour l’instant (la Terre étant le berceau de L’Homme, qui est l’homme ou la femme qui désire passer toute sa vie dans un berceau?).
Cependant, des sceptico-écolo-pédagogues, ça on en a des millions. Un de plus ou de moins!
Il y a de l’espoir pour cette planète : à chaque heure qui passe des milliers de poupons naissent. Un Mozart, deux Baudelaire, trois Nelligan, quatre Aragon et le monde est refait.
DeCléricy
J’en appelle à vous ô Muses
Où tant ma vie passe et s’use
Qu’encore et toujours j’aime
Mes soeurs Galère et Bohème
D’accord avec toi sur un point : nous n’avons qu’une Terre à notre disposition… pour l’instant(la Terre étant le berceau de L’Homme, qui est l’homme ou la femme qui désire passer toute sa vie dans un berceau?).
La terre n'est pas "à la disposition" de l'homme, (sauf pour les "dictateurs" et les arrogants), c'est une planète dans l'univers où des êtres vivants divers et variés sont apparus, par hasard ou pas, mais l'homme ne possède pas la terre, il n'est qu'un être éphémère d'une durée de vie limitée à quelques dizaines de printemps (heureusement d'ailleurs, j'imagine même pas s'il vivait éternellement, la surpopulation et les dégats encore plus rapides que cela causerait), qui y vit et y meurt comme tous les autres, et qui disparaitra en son temps aussi; (heureusement aussi même la terre et les astres en général sont soumis à la loi de l'impermanence); La planète est le berceau, la maison et le cercueuil de tous les êtres qui y vivent, et il serait dommage que l'homme saccage la maison céleste qui l'abrite, avant d'avoir voulu en trouver-saccager une autre, car c'est apparemment la seule vivable pour l'instant à quelques années-lumières à la ronde ! Alors avant d'aller faire le mariole dans l'espace, il devrait regarder où il pose les pieds;
Cependant, des sceptico-écolo-pédagogues, ça on en a des millions. Un de plus ou de moins!
Des égotico-consommato-pollueurs, on en a des millions, et c'est pas un de plus ou de moins qui résoudra les problèmes
Il y a de l’espoir pour cette planète : à chaque heure qui passe des milliers de poupons naissent. Un Mozart, deux Baudelaire, trois Nelligan, quatre Aragon et le monde est refait.
A chaque instant l'humain tue des milliers ou plus d'êtres vivants innocents, d'autres espèces, de la sienne aussi, déracine des arbres, ou déverse ses déchets dans l'eau claire, et le monde se défait; Esperons qu'il naisse surtout des écolo-libertaires pour virer de bord 😉
Cordialement. Rain in the face
La terre n'est pas "à la disposition" de l'homme, (sauf pour les "dictateurs" et les arrogants), c'est une planète dans l'univers où des êtres vivants divers et variés sont apparus, par hasard ou pas, mais l'homme ne possède pas la terre, il n'est qu'un être éphémère d'une durée de vie limitée à quelques dizaines de printemps (heureusement d'ailleurs, j'imagine même pas s'il vivait éternellement, la surpopulation et les dégats encore plus rapides que cela causerait), qui y vit et y meurt comme tous les autres, et qui disparaitra en son temps aussi; (heureusement aussi même la terre et les astres en général sont soumis à la loi de l'impermanence); La planète est le berceau, la maison et le cercueuil de tous les êtres qui y vivent, et il serait dommage que l'homme saccage la maison céleste qui l'abrite, avant d'avoir voulu en trouver-saccager une autre, car c'est apparemment la seule vivable pour l'instant à quelques années-lumières à la ronde ! Alors avant d'aller faire le mariole dans l'espace, il devrait regarder où il pose les pieds;
Cependant, des sceptico-écolo-pédagogues, ça on en a des millions. Un de plus ou de moins!
Des égotico-consommato-pollueurs, on en a des millions, et c'est pas un de plus ou de moins qui résoudra les problèmes
Il y a de l’espoir pour cette planète : à chaque heure qui passe des milliers de poupons naissent. Un Mozart, deux Baudelaire, trois Nelligan, quatre Aragon et le monde est refait.
A chaque instant l'humain tue des milliers ou plus d'êtres vivants innocents, d'autres espèces, de la sienne aussi, déracine des arbres, ou déverse ses déchets dans l'eau claire, et le monde se défait; Esperons qu'il naisse surtout des écolo-libertaires pour virer de bord 😉
Cordialement. Rain in the face
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
A l'heure où la france vient de voter une loi autorisant la poursuite des corridas,
Je ne vois pas trop le rapport entre les corridas et la fin du pétrole 😄 !
Ben.... heu... En les tirant par la queue....les taureaux de lidia sont des ruminants qui, en tant que tels dégagent pas mal de méthane au cours de leur digestion, méthane qui contribue à agrandir le trou dans la couche d'ozone 😎 ? C'est en tous cas ce qu'affirment les journaleux....🤪
A bas les ruminants sacrebleu 😠
Je ne vois pas trop le rapport entre les corridas et la fin du pétrole 😄 !
Ben.... heu... En les tirant par la queue....les taureaux de lidia sont des ruminants qui, en tant que tels dégagent pas mal de méthane au cours de leur digestion, méthane qui contribue à agrandir le trou dans la couche d'ozone 😎 ? C'est en tous cas ce qu'affirment les journaleux....🤪
A bas les ruminants sacrebleu 😠
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
Alors Roulelemonde devrait être pour les corridas 😛 !
A moins que RLM soit pour une guerre plus tactique en interdisant les corridas, on aboutit de fait et par voie de conséquence à l'extinction d'une espèce, en effet, à quoi bon élever des taureaux de lidia s'il n'y a plus de corridas ..... Une guerre, qui a la couleur et le goût de la guerre sans en avoir le nom...une guerre comme on aime aujourd'hui....des dizaine de millier de morts civils, du sang et des larmes mais quoi, ce sont juste des "frappes chirurgicales" on est des gens civilisés.
La guerre ? Basta ! c'est pour les barbares.
A moins que RLM soit pour une guerre plus tactique en interdisant les corridas, on aboutit de fait et par voie de conséquence à l'extinction d'une espèce, en effet, à quoi bon élever des taureaux de lidia s'il n'y a plus de corridas ..... Une guerre, qui a la couleur et le goût de la guerre sans en avoir le nom...une guerre comme on aime aujourd'hui....des dizaine de millier de morts civils, du sang et des larmes mais quoi, ce sont juste des "frappes chirurgicales" on est des gens civilisés.
La guerre ? Basta ! c'est pour les barbares.
Catherine
" La lucidité est la blessure la plus proche du soleil" René Char
http://www.catherinegil.com
http://www.catherinegil.com
A chaque instant l'humain tue des milliers ou plus d'êtres vivants innocents,
Cette formule m'a toujours laissée songeuse...
Qu'est-ce que c'est exactement un être vivant innocent ? Comment le reconnait-on... Innocent en opposition à quoi : qui est, qui sont le(s) coupables ? L'homme (et/ou la femme) mérite t'il quelquefois cette douce appellation... et à quel moment de sa vie ? Que doit-il faire, ou ne pas faire pour cela ?
...
Cette formule m'a toujours laissée songeuse...
Qu'est-ce que c'est exactement un être vivant innocent ? Comment le reconnait-on... Innocent en opposition à quoi : qui est, qui sont le(s) coupables ? L'homme (et/ou la femme) mérite t'il quelquefois cette douce appellation... et à quel moment de sa vie ? Que doit-il faire, ou ne pas faire pour cela ?
...
Bon les gars (et les filles) c'est bien joli tout ça, mais je vais pas trop pouvoir répondre à tous les intervenants vu que je redescend sous peu vers le sud, vu qu'on commence à se les cailler dans le nord; donc j'entame ma migration saisonnière comme les oiseaux 😉
Mais pour répondre au sujet des corridas, tout comme de l'usage du pétrole à outrance, c'est de la responsabilité de chacun de faire en sorte de vivre plus harmonieusement sur terre, être respectueux de la terre, c'est aussi être respectueux de soi, car tout est lié dans l'univers; Tourner en dérision la corrida ou en parler à la légère, c'est banaliser une barbarie qui devrait ne plus exister depuis l'âge des dinosaures, et encore; Quand la mort et la souffrance peut être éviter, quelquelsoit l'être vivant, humain ou pas, ça me semble le minimum que l'on puisse faire de les défendre, et de ne pas blaguer dessus; Pour ceux qui en doute, je leur propose d'aller gouter aux banderilles, ils auront certainement des propos plus réalistes et conscients ensuite ; )
Et pour ceux qui croient encore ne pas pouvoir se passer des bagnoles et autres, au nom d'un soit disant petit confort de bourge, ils n'ont qu'à aller marcher ou pédaler dans la nature, pour remettre leurs visions en place; La voiture n'apporte aucun plaisir hormis l'arrogance à l'égo; Se déplacer de manière silencieuse et honnête, apporte la liberté et la joie qu'aucune ville, aucune technologie polluante, pétrolée ou pas, n'apportera à des âmes qui ne brillent plus sous le béton et l'orgueuil
Allez bonne nuit, et n'oublies pas ta petite culotte ! Tchuss
Et pour ceux qui croient encore ne pas pouvoir se passer des bagnoles et autres, au nom d'un soit disant petit confort de bourge, ils n'ont qu'à aller marcher ou pédaler dans la nature, pour remettre leurs visions en place; La voiture n'apporte aucun plaisir hormis l'arrogance à l'égo; Se déplacer de manière silencieuse et honnête, apporte la liberté et la joie qu'aucune ville, aucune technologie polluante, pétrolée ou pas, n'apportera à des âmes qui ne brillent plus sous le béton et l'orgueuil
Allez bonne nuit, et n'oublies pas ta petite culotte ! Tchuss
Va toujours par le chemin le plus court, et le plus court est le chemin tracé par la nature
Il te reste à convaincre environ 6 milliards de personnes ... et à approcher la notion élémentaire, primordiale, du respect de l'autre.
Je te souhaite du fond du coeur la pire transhumance possible.
vu que je redescend sous peu vers le sud
Et tu redescend comment? Pas en voiture ni en avion j'espère... Le train? Ca dépend si l'électricité est nucléaire ou verte... Tu me fais rire...
On a besoin d'énergie... Pétrole ou nucléaire sont des ressources indispensables au quotidien d'une société. Certes, on doit évoluer vers des sources moins polluantes mais laissons les technologies le temps de se développer.
Tu vies dans une bulle utopiste. Aucun pays ne sait se dispenser de pétrole actuellement (ressource transportable et stockable). Le jour où il n'y aura plus de pétrole, il y'aura que des batteries électriques et là tu va te plaindre qu'il faut tuer le nucléaire ou éradiquer les champs d'énergies vertes...
Bonne continuation...
Et tu redescend comment? Pas en voiture ni en avion j'espère... Le train? Ca dépend si l'électricité est nucléaire ou verte... Tu me fais rire...
On a besoin d'énergie... Pétrole ou nucléaire sont des ressources indispensables au quotidien d'une société. Certes, on doit évoluer vers des sources moins polluantes mais laissons les technologies le temps de se développer.
Tu vies dans une bulle utopiste. Aucun pays ne sait se dispenser de pétrole actuellement (ressource transportable et stockable). Le jour où il n'y aura plus de pétrole, il y'aura que des batteries électriques et là tu va te plaindre qu'il faut tuer le nucléaire ou éradiquer les champs d'énergies vertes...
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Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Every morning, I’d take a taxi (chosen by the Thai family at prices that beat all the competition) to this school—I’ve forgotten the name of the little village now… right in the heart of the countryside. Then, in the evenings, I’d keep practicing massage on all the family members… and they’d teach me Thai at the same time!))
Since then, I’ve practiced a bit, with lots of positive feedback. Following Teacher Phong’s advice—he thought my pressure was deep, firm, and precise—he strongly encouraged me to take this seriously.
I love Thailand so much. It’s a whole different way of living… and it’s a real blessing, even if I couldn’t live there full-time. Anyway, that was an unforgettable memory, and sometimes the Thai family and I still say hi—from 2011, 2013… right up to today!
Take care, everyone! !
Hi everyone,
I’m Loulou, a French expat who’s been living in Southeast Asia for about fifteen years, currently in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. A passionate walker at heart, I’ve trekked in Nepal (Thorung La, Mardi Himal), India, Vietnam, and I’m still planning new hikes (Char Dham, Langtang, Annapurna).
I’ve just published my first travel journal, recounting three months of walking and encounters across India. A portion of the sales goes to an educational center I support in Kep, for children whose parents work in the salt marshes.
I’m also working on a second book about Nepal with a musician friend, focusing on the Mardi Himal trek—two independent perspectives on the same journey.
Happy to swap stories with you about the Himalayas, India, Southeast Asia, or just the urge to hit the road and walk far from home.
Safe travels,
Loulou
Hi everyone,
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"It seems to me that poverty would be less painful in the sun" wrote Aznavour...
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Not sure...😕 Who can prove that people in hot countries are happier than others? What do you think?
Is it better to live in Montpellier than in Lille? Are the Pygmies happier than the Inuit? Are Canadians less happy than the people of Louisiana? Are there more French expats in hot countries?
And your travels? Do you choose your destinations based on the climate? Do you rejoice when a bit of sunshine appears?
Hi everyone, just this once I’m not posting for a travel story, but to share a thought for Venezuela.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
So here’s a thought for this country, which, whatever you think of its politics, is a true jewel of South America, both for its landscapes and its people.
If you didn’t know—since it’s not making headlines—the country was hit by two 7.5-magnitude earthquakes last week. Over 2,200 people have died, more than 50,000 are missing, and some coastal towns have been completely destroyed. Maybe when the scale of the humanitarian crisis becomes clear, our media will cover it a bit more... especially since earthquakes with this many casualties usually make the front page, but there’s been nothing in France.
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hi there
I’d like to invite you to discover my coastal province in central Vietnam: Quang Ngai.
This year, my province has really improved its infrastructure—mountains, countryside, and sea are all authentic here.
No harassers or thieves, and no Russians either.
A local lunch costs around 1 €.
A *** hotel room is about 25 €, and you can find hotels right on My Khe Beach.
We have a specialty: *banh xeo*—10 crepes for just 1.5 €.
You can rent motorbikes to explore the province and maybe visit the many ethnic minorities.
I live here—I’m not selling anything, but I can help if needed (my father-in-law is a traditional Vietnamese doctor and he’s very skilled).
We're planning to spend a month in Vietnam. Is hiring a guide helpful?
Hi everyone! 😉
I’m Typhaine, 35 years old. Five years ago, I left France for a solo round-the-world trip—no planes, just a van, hitchhiking, cycling, and even a canoe in the Amazon! Today, I work as a naturalist guide in Argentine Patagonia.
Wherever I go, my compass stays the same: observing and photographing wildlife, which I deeply admire and respect.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
My project: I’d love to share this experience through a sustainable, authentic, and immersive nature tourism initiative. But to build something meaningful, I need to understand how other nature enthusiasts experience their own adventures.
If you:
Are over 20 years old
Have a true passion for Nature
Have already taken at least one trip lasting more than 3 nights (in your country or abroad) in your life
Then... would you have 5 to 7 minutes to help me by filling out this questionnaire? 🙂 »» https://forms.gle/y74ckkvN9TjrougLA
Promise: I’m not selling anything, this isn’t marketing. Your answers are 100% anonymous and will only help me shape this wild project. A huge thank you to everyone for your help and kindness! Looking forward to chatting in this thread 😛
(Dear admins, this is purely a collaborative effort for my project study, with no commercial purpose. Thank you so much for your support!)
Photo: Grizzly Bear (Ursus arctos horribilis), female on the left and her cub on the right. Photo taken by me in Alaska, Denali National Park.
Hello everyone,
It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

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It’s something we often notice in this forum—and many others—this behavioral shift.
A long-time member, or even a new one, asks a question. They get one or more answers, some brief, some detailed, and then... nothing???
Not even a simple thank you!!!
From what I’ve gathered, if the answers don’t align with what they wanted to hear, it seems natural for the asker to just disappear!! 😕 Unless—(and I fear this is the case)—basic politeness is no longer part of our society????
Please forgive my little rant.
Wishing everyone all the best. Cheers,
Puma2A

...
I spent 3 weeks in Bali last summer (+ 3 nights on Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java). So I wanted to see what ChatGPT could suggest for comparison...
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Here’s the prompt I gave:
"You’re a local expert guide for Bali.
- Plan a 20-day itinerary for Bali with a side trip to Gili Meno and a day trip to Kawah Ijen in Java without staying overnight.
- I’m traveling with my wife, and I love visiting historical sites, hiking, relaxing at the beach, snorkeling, and exploring rice terraces...
- For the duration of the stay, I don’t want more than 8 places to sleep, and I’d like to stay at least 2 days at each stop to avoid unpacking too often. Except for the last night, where I’m okay with just one night near the airport.
- I prefer neighborhoods that are walkable and try to avoid typical tourist traps, though I don’t want to miss the must-see spots. So suggest a mix of iconic sites and hidden gems.
- Recommend hotels or guesthouses with a budget of 50 to 100 € per night, including breakfast. Make suggestions in areas popular with travelers, specifying the vibe (I prefer quiet), and consider safety and proximity to attractions.
- For lunch and dinner, suggest two to three restaurants that are well-rated by customers.
- Give me a day-by-day program with details on travel times, visiting times for each point of interest, and recommendations for transportation (taxi, train, bike, etc.). Estimate the total cost of the trip, including accommodations, food, transportation, and activities, and suggest two tips for saving money in each category.
- Don’t make anything up—be realistic about travel times, take into account the opening dates and hours of sites, and give me the entry fees for places to visit.
- Ask me all the questions until you’re 95% sure you understand what’s being asked. Don’t generate your response until you’ve understood."
The AI asked for a few clarifications:
"Great request—I can build you a really optimized and enjoyable itinerary, but to be 95% sure I hit the mark, I need a few key clarifications (this will really influence the pace, areas, and accommodations)."
In the end, it proposed a program very close to what we actually did. I’ll skip its accommodation and restaurant suggestions...
Its proposal:
"Ubud (4 nights) => we did 5 nights Sidemen (2 nights) Amed (3 nights) => we’d planned 2 nights Gili Meno (3 nights) => we did Gili between Sidemen and Amed Munduk (3 nights) => we did 2 nights before Pemuteran Pemuteran (3 nights) with Ijen => we did 4 nights Sanur (2 nights + 1 last night) => we chose Jatiluwih instead of Sanur
It suggested "activities" (and accommodations too):
IN UBUD: - Walk around central Ubud (1–2h) - Campuhan Ridge Walk - Tegalalang Rice Terrace - Tirta Empul - Gunung Kawi - Massage / market / slow café
IN SIDEMEN: - Rice terrace hike (2–3h) - Cooking class
IN AMED: - Snorkeling - Japanese Shipwreck - Beach + relaxation - Volcano sunset
ON GILI: - Snorkeling at Gili Meno Turtle Point, Nest Underwater Statues
IN MUNDUK: - Jungle & waterfall hike - Munduk Waterfall + Melanting Waterfall - Loop: 3–4h (perfect for your level) - Ulun Danu Bratan Temple - Twin Lakes
IN PEMUTERAN - Snorkeling: Menjangan Island
For Kawah Ijen, it detailed the day well: 👍 from Pemuteran = best possible option 12 PM: leave hotel (we left at 10 PM) 1 PM: ferry 3 PM: arrival in Java + transfer 11 PM: start ascent 2 AM–6 AM: volcano Return to Bali around 11 AM–12 PM (we got back at 4 PM) 👍 still very intense, but doable with an agency 💰 ~80–120 €/person all-inclusive
IN SANUR: - Relaxation - Quiet beach - Proximity to airport (30 min)"
BUDGET: "3,000 – 3,900 € for 2 people" (We paid 3,200 €)
In conclusion, it’s not (yet) enough, but it’s (already) pretty impressive!
Hello everyone,
I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

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I’m sharing the menu posted at the entrance of a bar at the foot of the Porto Tower in Southern Corsica. . .
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.Greetings and have a great Sunday.
Puma2A . .

...
I’ve kept the habit of blowing my nose in the sink and then washing my hands—a custom I picked up in India. Sometimes, non-travelers are shocked when they catch me in the act... 🤪
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
Also, when I run out of toilet paper, it doesn’t bother me—unless I’ve got company over... 🤪
Just got back from walking a friend’s dog (while they’re on vacation), wearing a djellaba and Tibetan boots... 😏😏😏 Oh, for sure, if I’d run into locals, I probably would’ve shocked them? 😏
Anyway, as long as I’m not spitting on the floor at a restaurant or squatting on the side of a highway with a water bottle in hand...
Do you bring back customs from your travels?
After taking a little trip around the world, I came back a few months ago with an idea in mind.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
I mostly do diving, and I love observing animals in their natural habitat without disturbing them.
During the trip, I realized it was quite complicated to know where and when to see certain species.
For example:
where to dive with sharks or manta rays where you might get a chance to swim with whales
I even discovered thresher sharks during my trip… I didn’t even know this species existed before, even though they’re incredible to see.
We spent a ton of time searching for info all over the place, especially on social media, without ever getting a clear picture.
So I started putting all this together on my own, in the form of a map, to make it easier to visualize where to go depending on the seasons.
I recently put a first version online (it’s called Fauneya). There are probably mistakes, inconsistencies, or things to improve, and that’s partly why I’m posting here.
I’d really love to know how you all go about planning this kind of trip.
As part of my Master’s thesis, I’m currently conducting a public survey on a topic that concerns all of us when planning a trip: artificial intelligence and the role of human contact in travel planning.
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
These days, we’re using more and more digital tools to find ideas, compare options, and book trips... but is the role of human advisors still essential? At what moments? And for what types of trips?
The survey is anonymous and takes about 7 minutes.
It’s aimed at anyone who travels (or has traveled) for leisure, whether you plan everything yourself or go through an agency.
Survey link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdkmBzW2QOE3_ZirhmdG8e2LQyaWLJxWUeyTR0LzpC8ytlufQ/viewform
Your response will be a huge help for my work and will contribute to a broader reflection on the future of the travel experience.
Thanks in advance to everyone who takes the time to participate!!
While browsing the forum to gather info for my upcoming trip to Thailand, I often see the terms "traveler," "great traveler," and also "tourist"—so what’s the nuance for you?
I've traveled quite a bit in Vietnam over the past few years—from the southern delta to bustling cities and even some small islands—but what really sticks with me is the north, the high mountains.
Up there, there's something different—maybe slower, more raw. The morning markets with ethnic groups, women in traditional clothes, the colors...
The stilt houses, kids following you and laughing for no reason, the terraced rice fields—it almost feels unreal at times, so vast and quiet, yet so human and simple.
You often hear that Sapa has become too touristy, and that's partly true, especially in the center. But as soon as you move a little farther away, everything changes quickly. The landscapes open up, encounters feel more natural, and you rediscover something truly authentic.
I think it's that contrast that struck me—the difference between what you imagine before going and what you actually discover when you take the time.
And you—what memory do you hold onto from Vietnam? A particular place that touched you more than others?
Hello,
We’re finalizing the plans for our upcoming trip to China in May 2025. The second-to-last stop will be in Zhangjiajie, where we’ve planned to stay for 2 full days before heading to Shanghai.
We’re traveling solo using local transport and have arranged to stay in the city of Zhangjiajie.
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
We’ve seen that there’s a lot to see: Tianmen Mountain, the Grand Canyon and the glass bridge, Zhangjiajie National Park, and that the sites are quite far apart with fairly expensive entry fees. We’re thinking of dedicating one day to the national park and the Grand Canyon (glass bridge) and one day to Tianmen Mountain. But we’re not sure if this plan is realistic—any thoughts would be much appreciated!
Do you know if it’s possible to get around on our own, or is it better to go through a local agency or book a package like the one sold by TravelChinaGuide? https://www.travelchinaguide.com/package/zhangjiajie/2days-tour.htm
Thanks in advance for your advice! Alod
Hello 🙂
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
I should be serving a warming drink to the participants in the discussion about gardens and parks that provide us with beautiful photos, I could mention the delicious buttery scent wafting from bakeries in the thread about returning to France, but my heart, its powerful pulse that nourishes my entire being, is elsewhere.
Dasht-e Lut, Yazd, Esfahan, Bam, Kerman, Qeshm, Hormuz—a melody, a prayer at the heart of desire.
A dream, an unattainable fantasy? No. Not anymore. A very serious Italian travel agency is organizing this trip for 6 people this winter. I’m signed up, I’m going, I’m living. Maybe.
"But you’re completely crazy!!!!"
I know... I know that every civilization, every society has a vital need to create scapegoats to define and justify itself, pathetically. And Iran is one of them, top of the list. I laugh or sigh, and it doesn’t bother me.
But that unchanging red, deep red and garnet, so beautiful in itself, in all the Western chancelleries repeats, whispers, shouts: don’t go, don’t go, don’t go, you’re putting yourself in danger and we can’t do anything for you. You’ll be turned into mere bargaining chips, into arguments for endless negotiations. Fear must be instilled, its power absolutely preserved, no concessions made to the enemy. The information (how many French hostages, real or fake, compared to the number of travelers?) is always lacking.
Traveling becomes a merciless confrontation between desire, the vital pulse, and anxiety, its ghosts.
Catherine
Hi everyone, here’s our itinerary. Arriving on the evening of December 13th. Departing on January 7th.
Thanks in advance for your tips and valuable feedback.
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Manila – 1 night Coron – 4 nights Coron to El Nido cruise – 2 nights El Nido – 4 nights Port Barton – 5 nights Flight from Puerto Princesa to Vigan Vigan – 2 nights Sagada – 2 nights Banaue – 2 nights Bagabag – 1 night Manila – 1 night I’ve only booked the flight to Manila and the Manila/Coron flight so far. Is it possible to book boat trips, accommodations, and the Puerto Princesa flight last-minute?
Thanks in advance. Florence
Really disappointed with Costa Rica! Pura vida? The scam of the century!
(Costa Rica pure emptiness).
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
The country where animals are free and people are in cages. 3 weeks in December in this country and never again. Imagine the trailer of a movie that seems interesting, and when you go see it, you realize it’s a flop and the best moments were in the trailer. Well, that’s exactly how we felt with Costa Rica pure emptiness. My wife and I have traveled quite a bit and didn’t expect to be so wrong about a place. On the main routes, we visited: San José Alajuela Limón, Cahuita, Puerto Viejo, Manzanillo (Caribbean side) Jaco, Quepos, Manuel Antonio (Pacific side) And a few short stops in intermediate towns.
Our dissatisfaction grew gradually like this:
When we arrived at the hotel, the taxi dropped us off on a small street in front of a white metal gate with ground-floor windows barred. We looked at it skeptically, but the sign matched. He approached the gate, rang the bell, the buzzer sounded, and the door opened slightly. The hotel wasn’t bad for the price, a 10-minute walk from downtown, but with a "Fleury-Mérogis" vibe guaranteed.
So far, so good.
After showering and regaining our bearings, we headed downtown. What started to unsettle us on the way was seeing houses with bars on the ground-floor windows and even on the second floor. At first, we thought the hotel’s neighborhood wasn’t great.
Downtown San José: It’s a generic city, not very exotic, with a pedestrian street and a small mercado where you can eat local food without frills. Very few tourists—if any—which let you blend in with the locals. We had lunch and struggled to make ourselves understood because, aside from one or two shops, English wasn’t spoken. On the way back to the hotel, we took a different route, and while chatting and strolling, my wife pointed out a beautiful two-story white house completely barricaded like Fort Knox. From that moment, we started noticing the facades of houses and buildings, and wow, it was creepy—most looked like prisons, some even with barbed wire. Though put off, we told ourselves it was probably a big-city thing and the rest of the country couldn’t be like this.
So far, so good.
We relaxed at the hotel and had a drink at the bar. Night falls early, around 5:30 PM. By 7:30 PM, we headed back downtown for dinner. A bit unsettling for a capital—downtown was almost deserted, and aside from fast-food chains, very few restaurants were open, with hardly anyone on the streets. Bars with security guards out front. I won’t say we felt unsafe that night, but once it got dark, we realized the bars on the windows weren’t for nothing. First day in, and our impression was already mixed.
The next day, we explored the city and surroundings, and our feelings didn’t change.
So far, so good.
Off to Cahuita by bus—4 hours of travel. The landscapes are very green but quickly become monotonous. The road runs alongside the forest and passes through a few towns and villages, and even in the countryside, there were just as many prison-like houses. The bus dropped us off at Cahuita’s terminal station—only four of us got off. It’s a village, or rather, a small town. Cahuita is basically one straight road and a perpendicular one, and honestly, doubt started to creep in. A few restaurants that add 13% tax and 10% service charge—so 23% extra. We dropped our stuff at the hotel and went to explore. In 20 minutes, we’d seen it all. We had lunch and planned to check out the famous park. Entry is by donation—well, the "entry" is a joke. There’s a path along the forest by the sea, and that’s it.
Nothing’s going right anymore.
We thought it was a total scam, but since we hadn’t gone far, we decided to come back the next day to explore further. We returned to the hotel, relaxed, and around 8:00 PM, we went out for dinner. Only two restaurants were open, and the streets were deserted.
Creepy!
The next day, we explored the so-called park more thoroughly and really got it. A path along the forest by the sea—2 hours there and 2 hours back, where you see animals that feel like showing their faces. A total joke—"all that for this?"
The beach was full of wood debris and coconut husks. We wondered if the photos online were edited because the sea, very rough, wasn’t the azure blue we’d seen in pictures. But calling this a park is a joke—it’s like a new concept.
When we thought about the reviews online, we started to suspect that professionals with interests in the country were monitoring and countering any negative feedback that could harm their business. Too bad we didn’t check the negative reviews beforehand—we did while we were there, and it helped. We wondered if we’d become too demanding after all our travels, but no—when something’s bad, it’s bad.
Manuel Antonio’s park is even more ridiculous—there’s a short path along the sea for about 500 meters, and then nothing. You have to climb through mud and hack your way through the forest. We ended up barefoot because the mud was up to our calves. All that to see a raccoon and a few parrots flying overhead.
We didn’t expect Noah’s Ark, but we’ve seen more animals in Bali, Mexico, and Thailand while visiting temples or just walking around than in these so-called parks!
Puerto Viejo, not far from Cahuita and supposedly livelier—well, it couldn’t be worse! According to Lonely Planet, it had a Caribbean vibe and wild nights, but maybe that was a long time ago. The good reggae music playing everywhere isn’t enough.
In the evening, Puerto Viejo was a bit livelier than Cahuita, but that’s not saying much. Very few tourists—if any—no night market, just two or three shops open selling $20 T-shirts. Same vibe as San José.
No big deal—we enjoyed the beach and the sun, which was reliable. Our itinerary was supposed to include Tortuguero Park, but after talking to other travelers who’d just been, we changed our minds, knowing we’d be visiting Manuel Antonio Park on the Pacific side.
To get back to the Pacific side, you have to take the bus and go through San José again—5 hours this time—then switch bus terminals and another 4.5 hours to Quepos. A stopover town to get to Manuel Antonio’s beach and park! A town just like the others we’d seen—deserted as soon as the sun sets, and not exactly bustling during the day either. (Where are all the tourists?)
Still as many bars on the windows and that feeling of being in the wrong place.
7 km later: Manuel Antonio beach and park. The beach is very beautiful and quite large, but don’t expect turquoise blue water—the waves stir up the sand, giving the water a brownish color. Along the beach, shops and restaurants for about 300 meters, and then nothing. At night, after sunset, the town shuts down too.
Manuel Antonio Park is highly praised for its wildlife, so we were eager to see it. When you express dissatisfaction with Cahuita or Manzanillo parks, the response is always, "But you should’ve gone to Monteverde or Manuel Antonio!" No matter what you do or say, they’ll tell you, "You should’ve gone there or here."
Back to our famous park—entry was about $16, and contrary to what we’d heard, it wasn’t crowded! Guides at the entrance with spotting scopes offered their services for about $30. The park: a mix of boardwalk and dirt paths through the forest, sometimes running alongside beautiful coves and beaches. As soon as we entered, a crowd was taking photos of a deer eating leaves. A little further on, a guide with a group of five stopped. The guide raised his arm and set up his spotting scope! He showed them, about 100 meters away, a hummingbird perched on a branch. Some, looking through the scope, exclaimed, "Oh my God! Amazing! Incredible!" For a moment, we thought they’d discovered a unicorn or were in Jurassic Park and had just crossed paths with a T-Rex! The concept is comical—looking at a bird or another animal through a spotting scope because it’s too far away. Isn’t that what TV is for? For our part, we saw monkeys, ants, an armadillo, an iguana, and the backside of a sloth climbing a tree. Amazing, incredible!
We stayed a few days in Manuel Antonio to enjoy the beach, changing hotels often because prices varied wildly from one day to the next for shameful services. On top of that, they’d quote a price in dollars and convert it at their discretion—thieves!
Alajuela, a city near the airport, has a two-story mall and a local market downtown! No interest except its proximity to the airport.
What we liked:
The climate and, in hindsight, San José—the most authentic city we visited.
What we didn’t like, in addition to what we’ve already mentioned:
Costa Ricans aren’t very friendly or communicative. English is barely spoken, not even by doctors at Quepos Hospital, where my wife ended up with food poisoning (thanks, Google Translate). The widespread obesity among Costa Ricans, who eat like Americans. The insecurity. The eco-hipsters who leave their $150 lodges in minivans with guides to visit parks and other sites, then return to barricade themselves in their fortresses at nightfall (oh my God, amazing, incredible). The blue signs at the entrance of towns that accept this payment method: "We accept American Express." Parking lots that become paid just because a guy is watching your car. Prices displayed in dollars. The cost of living (hotels, restaurants, taxes). Landscapes that are too green and not flowery enough. Beaches—nothing exceptional. Pollution in cities where big American trucks rule. Sewage dumped directly into the sea. Aside from the jungle, there’s nothing to visit—no ruins, monuments, or anything worth seeing.
In short, my wife and I think the hype about this supposedly eco-friendly country is overrated. It’s just the trendy destination of the moment. There are much better, cheaper, and more authentic places. In hindsight, we keep the good memories and our beautiful photos, but if we had to do it over...
Before signing off, a little message to those who don’t like hearing opinions different from theirs: Well, some things aren’t up for debate. And to those who’d have us believe that in 3 weeks, we don’t have the right to criticize a country or express our feelings—how can you praise it in so little time? What a scam. Costa Rica is a money pit. Pura vida? Pure cosmic emptiness.
If you like spending your evenings barricaded in your cozy hotel after dark, this country is for you. For everyone else: run!
Hello,
Since the war between Russia and Ukraine, nothing is simple anymore for traveling to Belarus due to sanctions.
No more direct flights from the EU to Minsk.
Driving is a huge hassle, especially crossing through Poland at the only open border in Brest—you can wait 2, 3, or even 4 days just to get through by car.
The least painful driving option is to come via Lithuania and cross at the only open border, with a minimum wait time of 8 hours, sometimes up to 20 hours or more!!
Controls are very strict and annoying on both the Lithuanian and Belarusian sides. Avoid bringing alcohol, food, or cigarettes—everything will end up in the trash, especially when leaving Belarus for Vilnius, where the Lithuanians are tough, even with EU citizens.
The joy I once knew when visiting my wife in Minsk is sadly over—it’s now a real ordeal.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
The fastest solution is to fly. My wife travels to France by taking a bus to Kaunas in Lithuania, where you can catch a flight (though not daily) to Paris Beauvais or Charleroi in Belgium with Ryanair, for example. For the return trip, it’s the same: a flight to Kaunas and then a direct bus from the airport to Minsk. The bus crossing is quicker than driving—the 250 km journey, including border checks, takes about 6 to 8 hours for buses leaving Lithuania around midnight, but controls are still strict at the border. The biggest challenge is finding flight schedules that align with the bus routes between the two countries, given the unpredictable border crossing times. Now, my wife travels via Charleroi in Belgium (near Brussels), and you can take a train to Paris. Alternatively, you can fly into Beauvais and take a bus to Paris (Porte Maillot). For those driving, note that EU insurance and assistance policies no longer work in Belarus or Russia. You’ll need to get local insurance, usually limited to third-party liability (I don’t think full coverage exists?), as well as mandatory medical insurance. This is available at the border. You now have to pay highway tolls—no more BELTOLL boxes. Instead, you pay a flat fee for the duration of your stay. Stop at the first gas station after crossing from Lithuania to fill up on fuel and cigarettes. From what I know, Lithuania bans carrying more than 60 € in cash, but there’s no limit for USD (though it’s capped at $10,000??). With a Visa card, you can now withdraw 1,000 rubles per week (about 270 €)—two months ago, it was only 500 rubles!! For now, you can still pay by card in shops and gas stations. However, major retailers like KORONA (which may be Russian-owned??) no longer accept foreign Visa cards. Unfortunately, the additional sanctions announced by the U.S. on August 5, 2025, against Russia—and possibly Belarus—aren’t promising for the future. After 20 years of visiting Belarus, I’m truly saddened to see the joy of living in this country with my wonderful wife turn into such a bleak situation, all because of human folly.
Hi everyone!
I’m putting together our travel itinerary for Veneto at the end of April. And the more I look and research potential sites to visit, the more I find!
We’ll only be there for a week—my family and I—including 3 days in Venice. So we have to make some choices...
I plan to rent a car when we arrive in Venice and head straight to Bergamo, which would be our first stop. We’d leave the car at the airport when we return to Venice so we can explore the city at our leisure.
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
What do you think: 1 night in Bergamo (a 2h15 drive from Venice airport), 1 night in Garda, 1 night in Verona, 1 in Padua, and 3 in Venice—would that be doable?
Thanks in advance for your tips and experiences! :)
Now that the curtain has fallen on the past year, it’s time to see what’s happening around here.
It seems pretty quiet, but I’ll read more in detail later.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
First, I need to tell you all an anecdote.
My eldest little girl, in her third year of law school, was really scared she wouldn’t pass the year. I told her: “Trust yourself, you’ve worked so hard, and worst case, if you fail, you’ll just redo the year.” “But I don’t think I’ll make it—they changed the rules, and if I mess up even one unit, I have to start all over.” I knew her grades weren’t exactly stellar, and with what I was about to say, I wasn’t taking much of a risk. “Here’s the deal, sweetheart: if you pass, I promise I’ll take you to India, just the two of us.” I have to admit, India is a country I’ve talked about so much to all my grandchildren that in their minds, it’s become a magical, mythical place (hmm).
July had barely begun when my phone rang, her name flashing on the screen. “Mamido, I did it!” My promise came rushing back—oh no, oh no, oh no! “Congratulations, sweetheart!” A little shyly, she said: “Is the India trip still on?”
And me, replying: “Of course it is!”
And that’s that—a promise is a promise, or you risk losing that precious trust that keeps hearts warm and at peace.
We’re leaving in February. Only 8 days—yikes, the carbon footprint! But we can’t miss her tutorials, or she’ll be kicked out. Personally, that works just fine for me.
Going to India has become a challenge for me. It’s far, it’s exhausting, I sweat, I hate mosquitoes, the spices bother my mouth when I used to love them. There’s noise all the time—at night, the dogs bark nonstop, and we almost get run over. I’ll get lost in the streets because my sense of direction has vanished. I don’t like rice anymore. All that chaos and those cultural differences that once enchanted me now just overwhelm me. But I promised.
The upside—and it’s a big one—Raman, the same driver I’ve had forever, will be at the airport with a sign with our names. We’ll stop at the same little shop for chai (or tea, plain and simple) with that aroma that intoxicates me, halfway through the trip.
It’ll be a tiny trip—staying with friends, I’ll show her a few places I love: Chidambaram, Mamallapuram, and the clinic where I worked. Then we’ll head back. My little girl will go home to her parents.
As for me, I’ll leave right away for our Scottish island with Homme for our chilly winter.
How can you love a country so much you want to live there, then suddenly reject it, no longer able to appreciate what once made it special? That’s the mystery of love, I guess.
I’ve visited the U.S. four times myself, including two long road trips. The last one was just this past August...
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
I won’t be going back. I already felt guilty last August, but recent policies have finally convinced me: the humiliation of Zelensky, authoritarian excesses, Gestapo-like methods for detaining people of foreign origin, the murder of innocent people (a mother shot dead), corruption, insane "tariffs," skyrocketing healthcare costs for Americans, the abduction of foreign figures to secure oil, the requirement to disclose social media accounts, and now... threats and blackmail to forcibly take Greenland—a region that belongs to Denmark and thus the European Union!
The reality is that simply posting this could get me denied entry to the U.S.!
In this context, I just can’t keep spending money there. I loved my trips, but there are so many other countries with stunning landscapes to explore.
So I get why you’d want to travel there. I did, and I loved it. But once a country no longer respects any of the values that made us love it, why go?
How can we even consider traveling to a country that threatens to take one of our territories by force?
Hi there,
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
While reading some travel journals, I notice that we always reflect on the people of the countries we visit.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on which people charmed you the most during your travels?
I’m not looking for controversy, just reflections and personal feelings. Looking forward to reading your replies...
Hello everyone,
Controversial topic? Not necessarily—maybe just a reflection on a world to come.
I spent the last 15 days of August on a cruise in Greenland, from Kangerlussuaq to Tasiilaq.
I was utterly amazed by this unique world of rock and ice, the little houses in every color, a simple life that’s also complicated by isolation and climate, among other things...
I carry in my heart the kindness of the people I met, the raw and gentle majesty of the icebergs, the colors of the sky...
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,
So, I can’t even imagine a massive presence of raw material prospectors, heavy machinery requiring roads to be built—if that’s even possible—changing their way of life... putting sled dogs out to pasture!
Do fast food and Greenland’s northern lights really mix?
I wouldn’t trade my memories for an ESTA!
All opinions are respectable, which is why this isn’t a controversy—but I’m sorry, I have a soft spot for *my* Greenland.
Best regards,

Hello to all East Africa lovers and nature enthusiasts in general,
While I prepare to share a recap of our latest trip/safari in Kenya soon, I’d like to wish you all a peaceful transition between 2025 and 2026.
Warm regards,
Puma2A.





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We’re a couple aged 58 and 63. We’ve just returned from a wonderful trip to South India in Tamil Nadu and a few days in Kerala. We traveled with a local French-speaking guide and his friend, the driver. They both live in Pondicherry. We spent 3 weeks with them in the most authentic way!
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
We covered just over 2,500 km and visited not only temples but also archaeological sites, museums, and small artisanal businesses making tiles, tea, sculptures, bronze, and silk spinning. We were lucky enough to visit a public school, attend a wedding, and even a death announcement in a small countryside village. We were fully immersed in the culture, food, noise, and colors—it was incredible!
The hotels and guesthouses we chose were very clean and mostly quiet. We’re returning from India with amazing discoveries!
We’re happy to share more info if you’d like! M-Claire and Jean
This catchy and somewhat mysterious title comes from several questions I’ve been asking myself.
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
VF has been back open for a reasonable number of weeks and months now. The number of visitors overall matches past averages, but the number of members online in the last 24 hours seems relatively lower than what we used to see.
Yet, to my surprise, I’m seeing fewer travel journals, way fewer messages, and way fewer questions. I don’t see many new registered users online, and I notice a number of members who are logged in but either aren’t participating or have stopped participating.
Something’s not adding up for me because, in my opinion, VF is still appealing, and I don’t see which other sites could really compete.
Was there a real break between pre- and post-Covid? Does it just take more time for some people to discover the site or learn that it’s active again? Do people now prefer quick consumption on sites like FB or others I’m not familiar with? Where have the site’s old-timers gone, and what are they doing with their time now? What’s really going on here?
Hi there,
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
This isn’t exactly a traveler’s question... I’d like to know who handles the technical side of this forum?
I run a similar forum on a different topic (unrecognized children), and we’re dealing with a few technical issues that are slowly killing our forum... so I’d have one or two questions to ask 😊.
Also, I was wondering who created this forum... who the administrators or moderators are, etc.
I think this forum is great. Much better than Facebook, which I’ve been using since it shut down (so I’m happy to see it’s working again...)
À la campagne, sans voiture, les gens sont carrément en marge de la société...
Il me semble que c'est exactement ce que j'ai écrit après...😇😉