Passage frontière Kirghizistan - Chine
by Wheeltravel
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
Bonsoir je compte faire un voyage en velo a travers l'Asie, je compte passer par le Kirgizstan pour rejoindre la chine, je souhaite faire mon visa a Bishkek sa sera l'occasion de faire une petite boucle a velo histoire de decouvrir le pays. Je voudrait savoir si il est possible de faire sa demande de visa pour la Chine a Bishkek? Quelle est la duree du visa? et savoir en meme temps si je peut faire une demande de visa pour le Tibet toujours a Bishkek? Je ne sait pas si chaque visa aura une duree bien definit ou si la duree du visa sera pour les deux demandes Chine et Tibet.
Si non je pensait a passer la frontiere Chinoise par un autre pays comme le Kazakstan peut etre les visa sont de plus longues duree et peut etre il delivre un laisser passer pour le Tibet?
J'aimerait avoir un retour d'experiences de ceux qui pourront m'aider.
Un grand merci a vous.
Il n'existe pas de visa pour le Tibet, vu que c'est une province de Chine. La Chine délivre des permis pour le Tibet si vous y allez avec un guide d'une agence chinoise.
Pour le visa chinois à Bishkek, cherchez sur le forum, il y a eu des messages à ce sujet. Les conditions d'obtention du visa chinois en Asie centrale fluctuent en fonction du contexte géo-politique.
Le Kazakhstan et la Chine n'ont pas de frontière commune, ils sont séparés par un petit bout de Russie ou de Mongolie.
Pour le visa chinois à Bishkek, cherchez sur le forum, il y a eu des messages à ce sujet. Les conditions d'obtention du visa chinois en Asie centrale fluctuent en fonction du contexte géo-politique.
Le Kazakhstan et la Chine n'ont pas de frontière commune, ils sont séparés par un petit bout de Russie ou de Mongolie.
oups, oui, très juste ! Y a même une voie ferrée qui passe du Kazakhstan à la Chine...
Par contre, comme Bistouflex avait l'intention de passer par le Pamir, attention : il faudra vérifier si la frontière Tadjikistan / Kyrgyzstan, provisoirement fermée, sera de nouveau ouverte pour entrer au Kyrgyzstan.
Alors en plus la frontiere est ferme entre le tadjikistan et le kirghizstan? Pourtant il me semble que de nombreux voyageurs l'ont pris. Dites moi depuis quand est elle ferme et jusque quand? peut etre quelqu'un le sait ou a eu des ecchos.
La Chine délivre des permis pour le Tibet si vous y allez avec un guide d'une agence chinoise.
Plus précisément, un permis spécial est obligatoire pour aller au Tibet (en plus d'un visa chinois), et il ne peut être obtenu que par une agence de voyage chinoise agréée qui doit vous fournir un guide pendant tout votre séjour au Tibet.
Plus précisément, un permis spécial est obligatoire pour aller au Tibet (en plus d'un visa chinois), et il ne peut être obtenu que par une agence de voyage chinoise agréée qui doit vous fournir un guide pendant tout votre séjour au Tibet.
ok et faire sa demande de visa pour la chine du kirghizstan ou meme du tadjikistan je sait que cela est possible en principe mais le visa est de combien de temps???
ok et faire sa demande de visa pour la chine du kirghizstan ou meme du tadjikistan je sait que cela est possible en principe mais le visa est de combien de temps???
Le visa touriste est typiquement délivré pour une entrée sur le territoire chinois dans un délai maximum de trois mois, pour un séjour maximum de 30 jours en Chine (quelle que soit la date d'entrée effective). Il est souvent recommandé de ne pas mentionner son intention d'aller au Tibet lors de la demande de visa chinois.
Le visa touriste est typiquement délivré pour une entrée sur le territoire chinois dans un délai maximum de trois mois, pour un séjour maximum de 30 jours en Chine (quelle que soit la date d'entrée effective). Il est souvent recommandé de ne pas mentionner son intention d'aller au Tibet lors de la demande de visa chinois.
Mais dites moi aucune extension de visa possible? car 1 mois sa va faire juste, j'aimerait plus mais serait il possible de faire des extensions de visa histoire de repousser la datte de sortie dans le pays?
Mais dites moi aucune extension de visa possible? car 1 mois sa va faire juste, j'aimerait plus mais serait il possible de faire des extensions de visa histoire de repousser la datte de sortie dans le pays?
Il est possible de prolonger d'un mois maximum. D'après divers témoignages, c'est nettement plus facile dans l'intérieur du pays et dans les villes de taille moyenne (les conditions sont dissuasives à Pékin, mais cela ne vous concernerait pas). On se retrouve quand même scotché plusieurs jours le temps que la demande soit traitée, et il ne faut pas s'y prendre au dernier moment.
Il est possible de prolonger d'un mois maximum. D'après divers témoignages, c'est nettement plus facile dans l'intérieur du pays et dans les villes de taille moyenne (les conditions sont dissuasives à Pékin, mais cela ne vous concernerait pas). On se retrouve quand même scotché plusieurs jours le temps que la demande soit traitée, et il ne faut pas s'y prendre au dernier moment.
Et bien un mois supplementaire pour un si grand pays, dans l'ideal 3 mois sa serait royale mais je commence a m'en rendre compte sa sera beaucoup moins facile que prevu.
Juste pour infos, je dit bien pour infos, si vous depassez la datte de sortie du territoire chinois c'est a dire que vous restez plus qu'il ne faut, quelles sont les risques???
Juste pour infos, je dit bien pour infos, si vous depassez la datte de sortie du territoire chinois c'est a dire que vous restez plus qu'il ne faut, quelles sont les risques???
J'ai entendu parler il y a plusieurs années d'une amende de 500 RMB par jour de dépassement et une interdiction de visa pour un an. Hors zones très rurales, la photocopie de votre visa est transmise le soir même à la police par les hôtels : vous ne pouvez pas dépasser longtemps la date de votre visa sans être repéré.
Sachez aussi qu'il faut plus de documents justificatifs et un délai plus long pour obtenir un visa chinois lorsque vous avez un passeport français (et non de tout autre pays de l'UE). Cette mesure est appliquée par la Chine depuis le 10 mai 2010, pour des raisons qui n'ont jamais été rendues publiques. Tout témoignage concernant la délivrance de visa chinois doit donc s'accompagner de la précision "passeport français ou non?".
J'ai entendu parler il y a plusieurs années d'une amende de 500 RMB par jour de dépassement et une interdiction de visa pour un an. Hors zones très rurales, la photocopie de votre visa est transmise le soir même à la police par les hôtels : vous ne pouvez pas dépasser longtemps la date de votre visa sans être repéré.
Sachez aussi qu'il faut plus de documents justificatifs et un délai plus long pour obtenir un visa chinois lorsque vous avez un passeport français (et non de tout autre pays de l'UE). Cette mesure est appliquée par la Chine depuis le 10 mai 2010, pour des raisons qui n'ont jamais été rendues publiques. Tout témoignage concernant la délivrance de visa chinois doit donc s'accompagner de la précision "passeport français ou non?".
Pour passer du Kirghistan en Chine il y a Irkeshtam pass qui permet un très beau parcours à vélo d'Och à Kashgar : Je ne sais pas si cela a changé depuis 2009. J'avais eu des conditions "moyennes" et avais dû rallier Pékin depuis Kashgar plus vite que prévu. Pour l'itinéraire et les étapes : http://etchelec.free.fr/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=141&Itemid=98&limitstart=4
Bon voyage.
André Etchelecou
http://ddvagabondages.fr
merci pour toutes les infos, maintenant j'espere avoir plus de 1 mois lors de la delivrance du visa Chinois ou meme faire des demandes d'extensions de visa directement en Chine. Je sait que cela est fesable mais avoir le visa le plus long possible serait le mieux car la Chine c'est grand et a velo un peu plus long.
Bonjour
J'ai les mêmes interrogations... Voyage en Asie dans la montagne et en vélo... J'étais partie pour la karakorum Highway, il semble que ce soit très compliqué.
Tout d'un coup j'ai eu une idée : partir à l'envers, c'est-à-dire de Chine et donc prendre son visa en France. Je suis allé pour raison familiale en Chine il y a une quinzaine d'années, visa obtenu en moins de 8 jours, il suffisait de payer, mais je ne suis restée qu'une semaine. Ca m'étonnerait que ceux qui font Paris-Pékin traversent la Chine en moins d'un mois. Je vais me renseigner et je répète, suis avide de tous renseignements.
Suis aussi avide d'itinéraires sympas, montagne, paysages grandioses, pas de circulation, je ne crains ni les difficultés de la route, ni l'altitude, ni les gens...
Merci à tous pour les renseignements apportés.
Françoise
Françoise
www.frannycyclo.com
Bonjour francoise, je pense bien que l'ont peut obtenir un visa plus long qu'un mois, pour la simple raison que certains cyclos font un Paris Pekin donc traverser la Chine doit leur prendre plus d'une mois si ils la traversent d'Ouest en Est. Maintenant ou Obtenir le visa pour ma part je compte le faire a Bishkek au Kirghizstan, la vrai question combien de temps me donneront t'ils sur mon visa??? J'ai entendu dire que l'on peut demander des derrogations, enfin des extensions de visa a l'interieure du pays les extensions sont d'une duree de combien de temps??? et combien puis je en demander a l'interieure du pays??? Je doit partir de Kashgar pour aller a la frontiere du Laos.
En juin 2010, j'avais obtenu un visa de 6 mois car j'ai pu justifier 2 visa précédents(gardez vos vieux passeports...).
Les prolongations de visas d'un mois peuvent être multiples sur place, dans des villes moyennes de préférence (comme cité + haut) des provinces où le touriste occidental n'est pas trop indésirable. Difficile au Sichuan suite aux révoltes tibétaines, facile à Xining(qinghai) ou à Changrila/Zongdian au Yunnan. Pour corser la démarche, la prolongation doit s'entreprendre dans la dernière semaine de validité...impératif difficile à concilier à vélo impliquant des zappings à coup de bus...
Donc si vous avez la possibilité d'obtenir en France, un visa de 2 ou 3 mois, n'hésitez pas à y mettre quelques dizaines d'euros en plus, via une agence s'il le faut, pour profiter pleinement de ce pays fascinant.
Nico
Les prolongations de visas d'un mois peuvent être multiples sur place, dans des villes moyennes de préférence (comme cité + haut) des provinces où le touriste occidental n'est pas trop indésirable. Difficile au Sichuan suite aux révoltes tibétaines, facile à Xining(qinghai) ou à Changrila/Zongdian au Yunnan. Pour corser la démarche, la prolongation doit s'entreprendre dans la dernière semaine de validité...impératif difficile à concilier à vélo impliquant des zappings à coup de bus...
Donc si vous avez la possibilité d'obtenir en France, un visa de 2 ou 3 mois, n'hésitez pas à y mettre quelques dizaines d'euros en plus, via une agence s'il le faut, pour profiter pleinement de ce pays fascinant.
Nico
Crains qu'un jour un train ne t'émeuve plus...
Guillaume Apollinaire
En juin 2010, j'avais obtenu un visa de 6 mois car j'ai pu justifier 2 visa précédents(gardez vos vieux passeports...).
C'était en 2010. A compter de 2013, la vis a été resserrée tous azimuts pour la délivrance de visas chinois.😠
C'était en 2010. A compter de 2013, la vis a été resserrée tous azimuts pour la délivrance de visas chinois.😠
Merci Nico super sympa mais j'ai su que depuis 2010 (enfin surrement apres le mois de Juins) la chine ne delivre plus de visa au dela de un mois, les raisons ne sont pas vraiment clair mais je peut me tromper maintenant. Par contre les extensions de visa peuvent effectivement se faire a l'interieure du pays apparement. Combien d'extension au total je ne sait pas, et combien de temps dure une extension je ne sait pas non plus. Eventuellement faire son visa de france serait une bonne idee mais quand ont part d'Istanbul ce qui est mon cas sa fait des mois sur la route, a voir si le visa sera valable apres plusieurs mois au moins 4 a 6 mois ce qui m'etonnerait.
Enfin peut etre quelqu'un serait parti en 2013 ou 2012 histoire de connaitre les durees merci.
donc la vis ressere c'est a dire?
C'est à dire que les visas touristiques sont désormais d'un mois, prolongeable sur place d'un mois maximum.
donc un total de deux mois, mais ont peut pas faire plusieurs renouvellement de plusieurs mois? il me faudrait au moins 3 mois minimum.
Bonjour, j'ai pu fin 2013 faire un visa de deux mois en justifiant de mon voyage entre la Chine et la Vietnam. Les conditions changent souvent, donc cela peut n'être plus possible, mais aux dernières nouvelles, la politique des visas n'a pas changé.
Il faut y aller avec les billets d'avion, l'itinéraire etc.
Bonjour Nestor, merci pour la reponse. Votre visa vous l'avez fait de France??? ou d'Asie centrale???
De France. Les règles de visa chinois ne sont pas très uniformes, chaque antenne a ses règles, je le crains...
bonjour
je suis sur un tdm actuellement, je suis en Thaïlande et je confirme que maintenant (depuis juillet) le visa chinois est de un mois avec la possibilité de renouveler un mois supplémentaire sur place, avec attente de plusieurs jours (compter deux à trois jours) et impossible de refaire un troisième mois. (j'ai essayé).
Cela réduit effectivement les itinéraires que l'on se construit depuis le début de notre périple.
amicalement
31vinso.com
mj
quelles mauvaise nouvelle, juste un troisieme mois sa serait super au moins trois mois mais maintenant juste deux mois sont donner, en esperant que la situation va s'ameliorer d'ici peu, dit moi ou a tu fait ta demande de visa pour la chine? au faite tu a quitter la Chine par quelle pays? Merci Marcel.
par moment sa depend aussi du pays ou la demande est effectuer il faut peut etre essayer l'Ouzbekistan a Tachkent au lieu du Kirghizstan a Bishkek.
bonjour
La différence est surtout sur la rapidité d'avoir le visa.
Pour la Chine je l'ai fait à Tashkent, c'est plus rapide et l'ambassade est au centre ville alors qu'à Bishkek elle est très loin de la ville.Et puis c'est aussi suivant ton itinéraire, col de Toruguart ou la route du Pamir.
amicalement
31vinso.com
mj
bonjour
Deux mois c'est effectivement court pour la Chine, déjà qu'avec trois mois c'est juste.....
J'ai quitté la Chine pour le Vietnam, passage par le col de l'amitié puis remontée sur le nord Vietnam. (tu peux le voir sur mon blog).
Amicalement
31vinso.com
mj
Apparemment selon le site de l'ambassade c'est un mois. Dans une quinzaine de jours je dois aller à Lyon, je vais aller voir au consulat...
Je pars dans 3 mois et je n'ai pas la plus petite idée d'où je pars et où j'arrive, sauf que c'est quelque part par là....
Un copain me répertorie tous les sites bien au chaud sur son canapé, à moi de les éplucher...
Je garde espoir, je garde espoir... En attendant je m'entraîne en conditions réelles, plus un stage de mécanique vélo et un stage GPS...
Amitiés à tous
Françoise
www.frannycyclo.com
Bonjour Francoise, et bien j'ai fait pas mal de recherche sur l'entre en chine par le Kirghizstan, en plus je souhaite rentre par torougart, seule probleme tous les voyageurs qui ont laisser des messages sur leur blog datte de 2009 ou 2010 et depuis 2010 les choses ont changer pour les Francais. Je sait que le visa est disponible a Tachkent comme a Bishkek le visa est de un mois, puis renouvelable un mois en Chine, mais maintenant peut etre serait il possible de trouver des agences qui font le visa a ta place mais qui t'accordent plus de temps, ou encore trouver un pays ou les conditions d'obtention du visa sont plus cool et surtout un visa plus long. Il est sur que je ferait mon visa en Asie Centrale Ouzbekistan, Tadjikistan, Kirghizstan mais maintenant j'essai de savoir ou il est plus avantageux de le faire, attendre ne me derrange pas, c'est la duree du visa qui m'importe je ne voudrait pas prendre de train, je voudrait le faire en velo. Quitte a devoir sortir, rentre du pays refaire des visa et repartir de la meme place ou je me suis arreter je le ferait car je veut le faire a velo. Pas de stop, ni de bus, ni de train. Mais si je doit sortir pour refaire un visa malheureusement je le ferait.
Si tu passe au consulat Chinois demande leur, peut etre ils seront en mesure de te repondre. Il y a un voygeur qui a traverser la Chine a velo il l'a fait a velo l'annee derniere en 2013 donc sa doit etre possible. Voila sont blog eventuellement sa peut t'aider. www.jacques-sirat.com/
Bonjour Bistouflex
Je suis comme toi tout en vélo, chacun son truc... Euh sauf bateau ou avion quand il faut traverser des mers, des lacs, ou des rivières...
Mon voyage est retardé suite à des problèmes de santé, j'opterai donc probablement pour Ouzbékistan, Tadjikistan, Kirghizistan. Pakistan, karakorum Highway Chine pour l'année prochaine.
Ton idée d'entrer et de ressortir de Chine n'est pas bête mais peut-être y-a-t-il des délais... Dés que tu en sais plus tiens-moi au courant. Allez bonne route à toi.
Cyclamities
Françoise
Françoise
www.frannycyclo.com
Bonjour Franny et bien moi meme j'ai quelques soucit de sante, pour l'instant je patiente et esperant que cela va s'arranger. Je me donne dernier delai fin Juin pour partir sinon avec le pamir sur ma route et le kirghizstan sa ne sera pas possible j'arriverait trop tard et il fera froid avec de la neige, malgre tout si je part je ne manquerait pas de t'informer.
Le Kazakstan et la Chine ont une très longue frontière commune .
Bonsoir je suis au Kirghizistan a bishkek je serai à la frontière chinoise le 24 sept ou je retrouve deux motards pour traverser par le Tibet pour rejoindre le Népal puis l Inde mon point final est le Vietnam
Ije roule en camion 4x4 il me faut un guide pour transiter
Pour toi en vélo je peu essayer de me renseigner avec l agence fait gaffe au vieux renseignement ça change toujours
Moi je voulais passer par la Pakistan en arrivant d Iran plus possible d avoir de visa
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It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.
hello fellow cycling enthusiasts
here’s a travel journal of the cycling tour through the Rhône-Alpes Auvergne region by Claudio
zouli
it was the plan
http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/auvergne-Ralpes/
the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

the trip was completed story being posted online soon 1100 km in 11 days beautiful and varied regions
claudio

Hi, I'm looking for a Pino tandem bike for sale in Quebec and I can't find any. Does anyone have any info, please? Thanks a bunch!
Hi there, we’re planning a Munich to Venice bike trip at the end of June 2026. Getting back from Venice to Toulouse by train with 4 bikes isn’t straightforward. What return options have others who’ve done this trip chosen? Any tips or great deals would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch! !
Hi everyone,
Happy owner of a Pegasus Estremo bike with a Rohloff hub, which is giving me trouble with the SF11-NCX-FT-E-LITE 700C TS 300/0 fork (serial number TD01329060). It’s starting to show its age, and I’d like to repair it to extend the life of my beloved bike.
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
The suspension is gone, and there’s an oil leak from the seals.
Does anyone know how to repair it? Where can I find parts that are about fifteen years old? Or where to find an identical replacement fork? Just to clarify, the Magura HS11 brakes are mounted using Firm Tech, meaning they’re on pivots behind the fork, facing the frame.
Thanks for your help! Have a great day, Alexandre
Hi, I'd like to know if anyone has done this route recently or has reliable info.
Does the track exist, and most importantly, is there sand (for biking)?
Any info is welcome.
Cheers,
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
diego ambilobe: mangaoka, manondro, ramena vohemar sambava: masondrono, tanambao
Hi there,
New to bike touring,
I’d love to start with a section of the Via Rhona to explore and share (route to be decided).
Looking forward to exchanging tips!
hey everyone,
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
I’m landing in Madagascar with a buddy before the end of April 2026. We’re planning to bike around for about twenty days or so. We don’t have a specific goal other than exploring the country and meeting the locals.
Ideally, we’d prefer a loop route starting from Antananarivo with a good chunk of it along the coast. On the bike side, we’re used to riding 6 to 8 hours a day, depending on the needs, encounters, and mood 😉 Any feedback or tips from trips around this length?
Thanks in advance, Jérôme
A big thank you to Lazarou for all the info you share in this forum!
I'm passionate about Morocco, which I cycled through back in 2009.
Last year, my wife and I explored the High Atlas by tandem. Completely smitten, we're heading back in April (Anti Atlas) and May (High and Middle Atlas), still on our tandem.
Do you have any info on the track between Amezri and Ali Ait Nito? Are the river crossings in the Tessaout still there? It's not easy to navigate with a loaded tandem... especially if the river level is high due to this year's heavy snowmelt!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
Thanks in advance for any tips you might have, and best wishes for health in this new year!
A shout-out to a cycling colleague from Savoie
Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php

The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Claudio specializes in the route of the Savoie lakes Here are his travels Between Bornes, Chartreuse, the Savoie foothills, and Dauphiné Five lakes: Léman, Annecy, Paladru, Aiguebelette, Bourget, not to mention a few ponds along the way Plenty of accommodation options: camping, hotels, and more...
A lovely route not far from his place Rural and quite peaceful A road cycling route created by Serge B...
N+1 reconnaissance trips on a loop of about 400 km This way, he avoids the SNCF and its troubles http://cbandiera.free.fr/vv/lacs-savoie/recos.php


The latest reconnaissance trip from April to May 2026 http://cbandiera.free.fr/recits/2026-grenoble-H/index.php

Tout d'abord... bonne année ! De belles routes à vous en 2017 !
Je voyage depuis quelques années avec un VTT de très bonne qualité mais équipé de freins à disques hydrauliques. Je vis (pédale) avec l'inquiétude d'avoir une panne (fuite, bulle d'air, chaleur qui fait que le liquide...). Mon vélociste me dit qu'il est impossible de les changer pour des V brakes.
Qu'en pensez-vous ? Est-ce que je prends un gros risque à continuer (seule) avec ces freins ? D'avance je vous remercie pour vos bonnes idées.
Hi everyone,
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
First post here to share a quick recap of our west-to-east bike trip along Algeria’s coast in January 2025. It was just the two of us—my partner and I—with French passports and not a word of Arabic. No friends or welcoming hosts in the country.
Under those conditions, we’d strongly advise against going.
Our original plan was to follow the coast from Algiers to Tunis. We ended up cycling from Algiers to Béjaia, then took the train from Béjaia to Annaba (with a stop in Constantine), and finally biked to the border. We were tailed by police the whole way—whether on our bikes, on the train, or even on foot while exploring towns. On top of that, we couldn’t wild camp and were limited to the few state-approved hotels that accept foreigners. Under those circumstances, connecting with locals was especially tough.
With such an omnipresent and intrusive police presence, we’d definitely recommend against this destination for bike touring. A really sad situation that completely cuts you off from the local population...
We’d been warned, we went to check it out, and we weren’t disappointed!
You’ve been warned.
Hi there,
I’m planning the route to cycle from Lille to Nordkapp with my partner.
Duration: 3 months, from May 1st to July 31st, 2026.
In the attached details below, I need to add some "non-riding" days (rest days, basically).
So I’m looking to "shorten" the trip by taking ferries or trains for some stretches. Which areas could I skip?
Thanks in advance for your great tips.
Have a good evening.
https://www.komoot.com/fr-fr/collection/4023980/-lille-cap-nord-1er-mai-au-31-juillet-2026?ref=collection
Hi there,
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
I’m planning to bike back from Poland this summer. Does anyone know a way to ship it there without having to take it apart? Otherwise, it’s a real hassle to fine-tune all the settings before departure! Thanks in advance.
Hi, has anyone recently bought Primus or Butagaz gas, possibly puncture-style, in Dubrovnik or the surrounding area? Same question for Albania... thanks. aichatou
Hi there,
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Coming from Laos (*), I’m planning to enter Thailand by bike via the Fourth Thai–Lao Friendship Bridge.
Before this bridge was built, I’d already cycled the road from Louang Namtha to Houei Sai and crossed the river by boat to reach Thailand.
At the time, the condition of that road was impeccable, and most importantly, traffic was light.
So I’m wondering if anyone who’s taken it recently can tell me whether traffic has increased since the bridge opened.
Thanks in advance!
(*) I’m currently cycling in China (Yunnan)
Hi there,
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Just a few words about the loop I did by bike in Yunnan.
Entry and exit
I entered China through the Sino-Vietnamese border crossing at Lào Cai / Hekou under the 30-day visa exemption currently available to French nationals and others.
The process was simple and quick. A Chinese police officer even helped me complete my electronic pre-registration at a computer kiosk. I wasn’t aware this formality was required—it’s similar to Thailand’s TM6.
No issues with the bike.
I left the country via the Sino-Laotian border crossing at Mohan / Boten.
The atmosphere was a bit chaotic there, but again, no problems with the bike.
The timing
I visited Yunnan in February 2026.
Weather-wise, at higher altitudes (between 1,500 and 2,000 meters), it was around ten degrees at night and in the mornings, and around twenty degrees at the hottest part of the day.
I had two days of rain, so I took the bus to keep moving. Otherwise, clear blue skies.
Culturally, Chinese New Year fell on February 17th (and the 15 days following), right in the middle of my trip. Because of this, my take on the traffic might be off.
Accommodation and food I always found a hotel to stay in for prices ranging from 8 to 15 €. Except in Kunming (the capital), where many hotels were fully booked (Chinese New Year). I ended up at a 100 € hotel with great value for money.
A bowl of noodles costs about 1.5 € on average.
Onboard electronics Since my smartphone doesn’t support eSIMs, I subscribed to a China plan with my carrier. Otherwise, for much cheaper, Alipay offers eSIMs for foreigners that allow access to services usually blocked for Chinese users (WhatsApp, Facebook, etc.).
An internet connection is essential for paying with Alipay or WeChat, as this payment method is widespread.
I only managed to use Alipay.
Either way, always carry cash because sometimes there’s no signal, or the merchant only accepts WeChat.
Also, it’s best to bring a power adapter when you arrive rather than struggling to find one.
Traffic and roads The Chinese aren’t reckless drivers. They follow traffic rules and watch out for cyclists. This is slightly less true in Xishuangbanna (the region bordering Myanmar and Laos).
In urban areas, there are almost always wide bike lanes, separated from other roads, where bikes, electric mini-scooters, and scooters share the space pretty harmoniously.
The roads are in great condition, and traffic is generally manageable—even light—except for one stretch (Eshan -> Yangwu).
Most traffic is absorbed by expressways, China’s equivalent of highways: toll roads that are off-limits to slow vehicles.
You’re never far from these expressways; sometimes you even ride alongside them, which can be noisy at times.
The climbs are usually reasonable, around 5% to 6%. From what I remember, the steepest section was between Menglun and Mengla, with gradients of 8% to 10%, sometimes more.
Riding at these altitudes—though modest—took a bit of getting used to.
The route I didn’t plan anything in advance. My only goal was to reach Kunming. I don’t know why, but just hearing the name of that city, like Yunnan, always felt dreamy to me.
Here’s the breakdown: Hekou -> Man Hao (94 km); Man Hao -> Yuanyang (64 km); Yuanyang -> Jianshui (bus); Jianshui -> Tong Hai (78 km); Tong Hai -> Chenjiang (85 km); Chenjiang -> Kunming (60 km); Kunming -> Kunyang (60 km); Kunyang -> Eshan (67 km); Eshan -> Yangwu (58 km); Yangwu -> Yuanjiang (59 km); Yuanjiang -> Pu'er (bus); Pu'er -> Dadugang (75 km); Dadugang -> Jinghong (80 km); Jinghong -> Menglun (67 km); Menglun -> Mengyuancun (51 km); Mengyuancun -> Mengla (43 km); Mengla -> Boten (67 km).
Otherwise, I’m currently in Thailand and just hoping my return flight with Qatar won’t get canceled.
Oh well... 😉
Hi! I’m planning to visit the Stockholm Archipelago by bike in early April.
Do you know if the boats will be running between the different islands at that time of year? For those who’ve already been, all your tips and recommendations are welcome—accommodation, etc. Also, do you know where I can rent a bike in Stockholm? Thanks so much in advance for your help!
Hello there, pedal-powered Young Boys!
Claudio (still from Faverges)
dreaming about a cycling getaway in Italy from Faverges (train all the way to Turin)
from Turin down to Venice along the Po River and back via the Padana (Alta Italia da attraversare – Northern Italy to cross)
The tricky part is getting from Chioggia to Venice.
I read it’s possible by hopping on a boat from island to island,
but it sounds a bit stressful.
Has anyone already tackled this route?
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio
Thanks, and cheers to all! http://cbandiera.free.fr/parcours/Padania/
Claudio

Hi there,
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
I’m currently looking for a bike to do my first bike trip across France, with the ultimate goal of cycling through Latin America. I’ve got a lot of questions and I’d love to hear if you have any answers or advice to share. First off, I’ve been through this before with hiking. I want to get top-quality gear right away. When I started hiking, I ended up buying everything three times—first beginner gear, then intermediate, then expert, etc. For biking, I’d prefer to skip that process and invest right now in a bike that could ideally handle Latin America. I’ve set a total max budget of around 5000 € (roughly 4000–4500 € for the bike and the rest for accessories: panniers, helmet, cycling shorts, etc.).
So, I’ve got quite a few questions:
* I’ve read in several places that some people recommend buying the bike directly in Latin America. Since I need a first bike to train in Europe, would it be better to buy an entry-level bike in France (and sell it before the big departure)? Or is it preferable to start right away with my final bike to get used to it? Is buying it there just to save a bit of money?
* For a long-term trip (around six months) in Latin America, is it better to go for a gravel bike or a mountain bike?
* Should I buy a new bike or a refurbished one? Even more so given that I’m planning a long trip—could a refurbished bike end up causing more breakdowns?
If you have any advice on models, technical features to prioritize, or recommended sellers or resellers, I’d love to hear it. I’m a total beginner—I’ve only just started watching videos and reading up on the subject, and all the technical specs are new to me!
Thanks in advance for your help!
Calling all travelers.
We’ll be landing at Lyon Airport and want to bike to La Verpillière train station (with panniers and camping gear, etc.) to catch a TER to Voreppe.
What’s the safest route for this bike trip?
Thanks in advance
hi,
I'm planning a recumbent bike trip from the Pyrenees to Greece. On the EuroVelo 8 route, it doesn't specify the path through the Alps.
Are there any experienced cyclists here who can tell me where they go to avoid climbing too high?
Also, is there another traveler/bike forum better suited for broadening the responses?
thanks