Passage de la frontière Laos-Chine à vélo à Boten et visa?
by Ranlo77
This discussion is in French, the community’s main language.
Original post
salut a toi camarade cycliste
j'ai dans l'idée de traverser la frontière lao/chinoise vers boten . et je n'aurais en ma possession qu'un visa d'un mois (because je ne rentre pas en avion ) Quand est t'il en 2011/12 d'un passage de frontière de base EN VELO?? parcequ'a l'ambassade chinoise, ici en france, c'est le branle bas combat dès que j'évoque ce déplacement subversif. je refuse bien évidement de me lancer dans un délire paperasse via agence de voyage ou autre chinoiserie du même ordre.
Vue qu'il est possible de récupérer un visa laotien a la frontière, s'il me refoule, c'est un bon échappatoire pour ne pas rester bloquer dans le no man's land....
il y a aussi l'option vélo cacher dans un bus ...
ce message, en fait, est pour m'entendre dire que je peux tranquilou passer ce poste frontalier sur ma machine ...
merci
ranlo
Salut !
Je l'ai passé en 2009 (ok, ça date un peu) et aucun souci. Suffit de ne pas faire le fanfaron, répondre aux multiples questions qu'on te pose et voilà.
Je pense que pas mal de personnes franchissent cette frontière chaque année et comme aucun événement politique particulier n'a eu lieu entre la France et la Chine, je ne vois pas pourquoi ce serait plus diffficile maintenant qu'il y a 2 ans :-)
Si tu comptes prolonger ton visa, je te conseille vivement de la faire dans une petite ville car dans les grosses c'est souvent chiant. Je l'ai fait prolonger à Shangrila, ça m'a pris 15min, j'ai essayé à Urumqi, ils leur fallaient une semaine ... Et attention que tu ne peux le prolonger qu'une fois que tu es à 5 ou 8 jours de la date d'expiration (je ne sais plus le nombre de jours exacts mais ça peut être chiant parfois ...) avant, ils refusent. Donc bien calculer son trajet pour être au bon endroit au bon moment :-)
bon voyage !
Je l'ai passé en 2009 (ok, ça date un peu) et aucun souci. Suffit de ne pas faire le fanfaron, répondre aux multiples questions qu'on te pose et voilà.
Je pense que pas mal de personnes franchissent cette frontière chaque année et comme aucun événement politique particulier n'a eu lieu entre la France et la Chine, je ne vois pas pourquoi ce serait plus diffficile maintenant qu'il y a 2 ans :-)
Si tu comptes prolonger ton visa, je te conseille vivement de la faire dans une petite ville car dans les grosses c'est souvent chiant. Je l'ai fait prolonger à Shangrila, ça m'a pris 15min, j'ai essayé à Urumqi, ils leur fallaient une semaine ... Et attention que tu ne peux le prolonger qu'une fois que tu es à 5 ou 8 jours de la date d'expiration (je ne sais plus le nombre de jours exacts mais ça peut être chiant parfois ...) avant, ils refusent. Donc bien calculer son trajet pour être au bon endroit au bon moment :-)
bon voyage !
bjr ! Merci je prends note.surtout l'option petite ville...
j'ai également lu sur Vf qu'une ouverture de compte banquaire (si si) était éventuellement demandé lors d'une prolongation de visa ... Hallucinant, si cela s'avère vrai... bon, pour toi, 2009 c'était avant les lois d'immigration de sarkho... je verrai bien...
a plus
ranlo
Bonjour
Juste pour vous signaler que nous avons croise des cyclos a Luang Namtha qui ont ete rejete a la frontiere chinoise a Boten apres avoir fait tamponne leur visa. Ils ont du faire demi tour, acheter de nouveau un visa laos . Et sont repasse le lendemain mais cette fois avec les velos en soute dans un bus. Heureusement pour eux ils avaient un visa double entree pour la Chine.
L ambassade chinoise de Ventiane nous a confirme que depuis 2 semaines on ne peux plus passer la frontiere de Boten sur son velo.
laeti
mais oui mettez votre velo dans le bus, et le tour est joué...
ils changent tout le temps...
en ce moment ils font la chasse aux francais...avant c etai les amerloques la cible...
des fous, je vous dis!!!!!!
oliwen
moi j ai passé la frontière entre mengla et Luang nam tha à pied en 2009 et pas de probls...
oliwen
moi j ai passé la frontière entre mengla et Luang nam tha à pied en 2009 et pas de probls...
Salut,
Tu peux passer tranquillou ce poste de frontière sur ton vélo. C'est ce que tu voulais entendre ? Je te le dis ! Nous l'avons passé en 2011, en un quart d'heure. Personnel très sympathique, aucune question à part sur nos vélos vu que ce sont des vélos couchés : pure curiosité...
Bon voyage Nathalie www.migrationsenbent.fr
Tu peux passer tranquillou ce poste de frontière sur ton vélo. C'est ce que tu voulais entendre ? Je te le dis ! Nous l'avons passé en 2011, en un quart d'heure. Personnel très sympathique, aucune question à part sur nos vélos vu que ce sont des vélos couchés : pure curiosité...
Bon voyage Nathalie www.migrationsenbent.fr
Nathalie
bonjour
puree, quelle coup de chance... je suis a UDOM XAI et m apprettais a passer la frontiere a velo...demain....tout dans le bus et on vera bien... encore faut til en trouver un...
ces sales NAZIS ROUGES.
de plus il parait que la repression au tibet, personne n en parle en france.. et dire que j aimerais monter tout la haut...pas vraiment le moment de rever hahahaha
merci encore
loran
Le terme "Nazi rouge" me semble disproportionné ! savez vous vraiment ce que cela veut dire ? j'ai l'impression que votre culture doit être aprofondie
Puisque vous êtes très courageux profitez de votre passage en R P C pour plaider la cause Tibétaine, ce que vous ne manquerez pas de faire j'en suis sûr!
hello...
sans doute, sa parole a t elle depassée sa pensée...haha
maintenant il est vrai que les restrictions impoosées ces dernières années au "libre passage" peuvent induire ce comportement...
on est loin de l espace shgengen et de la thailande "toute ouverte" au tourisme (quoi que la aussi les choses sont en train de changer)
maintenant historiquement le terme "nazi rouges" est amusant...car sans le savoir et sans malice sans doute, notre voyageur a velo a "ouvert" un voile sur la prpagande chinoise... explixation: comme chaqun sait, la chine est un pays communiste... qui dit communisme dit propagande... et bien, il faut savoir que les methodes de proagande du maoisme ne sont pas inspirées des methodes de propagande sovietique et stalinienne mais bien des methodes nazies que mao trouvaient beaucoup plus efficaces, il s en inspira des 1933! bien sur ses idées etaient bien communistes elles! voila une petite anecdote que peu de gens savent!
maintenant historiquement le terme "nazi rouges" est amusant...car sans le savoir et sans malice sans doute, notre voyageur a velo a "ouvert" un voile sur la prpagande chinoise... explixation: comme chaqun sait, la chine est un pays communiste... qui dit communisme dit propagande... et bien, il faut savoir que les methodes de proagande du maoisme ne sont pas inspirées des methodes de propagande sovietique et stalinienne mais bien des methodes nazies que mao trouvaient beaucoup plus efficaces, il s en inspira des 1933! bien sur ses idées etaient bien communistes elles! voila une petite anecdote que peu de gens savent!
salut
tres bonne idee, je vais aller m inmoler sur la place tienanmen le 6 juin prochain, jour de l avenement de mister holland.ca ne servira a rien mais on parlera peut etre du tibet a cette occasion
blague a part, le terme de nazi rouge est peut etre disproportionne, mais m interdire de passer la frontiere sur ma selle m a fait bondir... humainement parlant...
ils oublient un peu vite qu il n y a pas si longtemps ( vu de mes propres yeux) leurs rues etaient remplis de velo.....
et pour finir, je ne suis pas historien, mais 30 millions de mort pour batir une nouvelle societe, je sais pas si c est du nazisme mais ca craint quand meme un peu...
see ya
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This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
This summer, we’re planning to cycle along the EV 19 that follows the Meuse River from Langres all the way to Rotterdam. My question is about getting back to Nantes. Do any of you know what the best return option might be? I’d love to hear about your experiences. I saw that FlixBus doesn’t take bikes. By train, I think it’s possible but would involve multiple local trains. We were also wondering if there’s a boat from Rotterdam to Saint-Nazaire that could take passengers with bikes.
Any tips or experiences you can share would be really helpful—thanks in advance! Have a great evening
I’ve gotten used to crossing Europe by bus to return by bike.
It was really convenient to take the bike without having to disassemble it.
But FlixBus no longer accepts bikes...
What alternatives do you know about?
Thanks.
Hi there,
I’m planning to ride the Dutch section of the EuroVelo 19, from Maastricht to Rotterdam.
Since it’s too complicated to bring my bike on the train, I’m looking to rent one locally.
I’d love any tips or bike rental shop recommendations—I’m struggling to find options even in Rotterdam.
The plan is to rent in Rotterdam, take the train to Maastricht with the bike, then cycle back to Rotterdam.
Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions!
Nath
Coming soon:
https://www.Biclou.com/parcours/durance/
Starting from Faverges: 900 km over 9 days

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Here’s the detailed Durance route starting from Briançon

Hi there,
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
I’m planning to build a new touring bike. I want to prioritize lightness. That said, I’m tempted by a suspension fork that could offer some comfort on rougher roads. The recent appearance of gravel suspension forks on the market might meet my needs—at least on paper. I’m particularly considering the RockShox Rudy Ultimate XPLR fork. Unlike MTB forks, its travel is short: either 30 mm or 40 mm. It weighs 1400 g, which is 400/500 g more than a steel fork.
Any thoughts or real-world feedback on this?
I’m also wondering about the durability of magnesium (lower leg) for long-distance bike touring. And what’s the impact of skipping the manufacturer-recommended maintenance every 50 and 200 hours? That’s bound to happen on a long trip unless you carry extra gear. More generally, how reliable are these kinds of forks?
Thanks in advance
Hi there!
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
I’m making an exception and creating a separate post this time, since it’s all about France. In May, we spent a week in Provence, specifically in the Luberon, exploring the cycling routes *Autour du Luberon à Vélo*, the *Véloroute du Calavon* (part of EuroVelo 8), and the shorter *Les Ocres à Vélo* route. Together, they gave us an amazing journey through rolling hills, vineyards, lavender fields still green in spring, and some of the most stunning landscapes in southern France.

It was, of course, the perched villages that impressed us the most. We visited Gordes, Roussillon, Bonnieux, Lacoste, Lourmarin, Ménerbes, Oppède-le-Vieux, Cucuron, and Lauris. Many of them are among the most beautiful villages in Provence, and it’s hard not to agree with that reputation.




One interesting point is the route of EuroVelo 8 in this part of the region. The official path mainly follows the old railway line of the *Véloroute du Calavon*, which is very comfortable and safe. But in our opinion, cyclists traveling EuroVelo 8 around the Mediterranean would discover even more treasures if the route passed through villages like Bonnieux, Lacoste, or Oppède-le-Vieux.


We were also pleasantly surprised by how safe cycling felt. Most of the route takes small local roads, but traffic is light, drivers are respectful, and road design really takes cyclists into account. It’s one of those places where you can ride peacefully even without separated bike lanes.



Our full story:
Around Luberon by bicycle - the most beautiful villages of Provence
You can also find all our cycling travel stories on the forum:
Cycling Thread - Europe’s most beautiful bike routes
S.
Hi there, we’re a group of 4 cyclists looking to get from Treviso in Italy to Munich with our 4 non-folding bikes. It seems complicated! Are there any solutions? Thanks so much.